Hey I want to say thank you. Because of your videos, I finally had the courage to approach a table. For the most part I stayed with the 6&8. I was able to turn $260 into $725. 😅

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! I appreciate the kind words. I am glad I helped you get to the tables. Congrats on the win. Now you have been bit by the bug. Play with discipline and expect not to win them all. Good luck at the tables and spread the word to your friends.

@brucevolk9729

Жыл бұрын

As with any DP and DC system getting your bets on a box number is where it can break down quickly. If you can get any don’t bet on a box number you are in a no lose situation. Getting past the come out roll is where things are tricky. I would suggest putting up a 60$ no 5 or no 9 on the come out roll and immediately take it down when a point is set. Still exposed but 6 losing numbers vs 8. A 4$ yo is optional taking the losers down to 4 but the yo can be a heavy tax over the session but it only takes a couple yos to overcome that and also you have snake eyes and the 2-3’s going in your favor to overcome the tax.

@snoop_diggity_dogg6059

Жыл бұрын

@@brucevolk9729 - You cannot 'overcome the tax'. That's why they designed the game this way - to make people think they can. = $$$

@epiclegendaryking332

5 ай бұрын

About to go at 12am

@christophercharleshoward5435

3 ай бұрын

😂​@@OnPointCraps

Great strategy and I can confirm it works IRL. one modification I do… on the come out roll, I place a $1 hop bet on the numbers I don’t want to see 1/6 3/4 2/5 5/6. This $4 hedge pays $15 in the event that a 7 or 11 is rolled. It lessens the loss of the $30 a bit just long enough to set a point. Also if the point is a 4 or a 10, I will add $24 to the DC as it’s much ore likely to roll a 7 than a 4 or 10. I’ve had great luck with this. I do take down bets after they’ve hit a couple times each.

@OnPointCraps

9 ай бұрын

Ooh. I like that variation. I may give it a try.

@jamesfraser7394

6 ай бұрын

Maybe also cover the 6/6 that you don't want to see. ;)

@OnPointCraps

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesfraser7394 I wouldn't mind seeing the 6/6. It is barred, so now harm/no foul with a push.

@alexrosenblum9106

24 күн бұрын

What do you do when the point is a 5, 6, 8, 9

Thanks for this video! This seems like a great way to learn a new table: how the table bounces, and how to hit what you want for landing zone. I believe I can use this on every new table. I’ll play until I get ready to play my money makers. Thanks again great job.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Definitely a good way to start. Adjust bets as you see fit. If you can read a table you will do well. Thanks for the support.

@IMove2Earn

4 ай бұрын

What are your money makers?

I've always looked for a way to ride out a cold table and I think this is it. Thank you...can't wait to try it on my next trip!

@OnPointCraps

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Good luck. I hope it works for you!!

Good work, Mike! We both subscribed and liked a number of your videos. Also, love the Square Pair at 13:00.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! I really enjoy your stuff too. I think of you guys every time I hit a hard 8. I think I gave you a shout out in one of my videos. Have to keep the community going.

This is my go-to strategy. I press and build my place numbers all the way across as I get profit, it's super fun and it allows me to play for a long time!

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It is hard to hit a home-run, but it is a great way to build comp.

@itzamia

5 ай бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Walking out with 200 in winnings is a Home Run.

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

@@itzamia I agree. I got very fortunate with these rolls.

I would put 60$ dont pass…..15$ any 7 on the comeout……And then place the 6-8 with 30$ each….135$ layout…..1350 for 10 shooters …And if a 6-8 was the point I’d place either the 5 or 9 with $30…..The 15$ any 7 bet would be made up for from the extra payout amounts on the placed numbers…..Any time you got at least 1 hit on a place number and then 7 out would make a good profit…Any time you make 2 place numbers and then a 7 out would put you way ahead …..Any time you have two hits on place numbers you’d take those bets down and just leave the dont pass bet …..

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Good strategy. If you have that starting bankroll then I say go for it.

@snoop_diggity_dogg6059

Жыл бұрын

They LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the people with the $15 any 7 bets. That's one reason the hotel attached to the casino is 50 stories high and the owner has a condo at 111 W. 57th St. in Manhattan.

Absolutely, engaging..looking forward to seeing how you take this further..

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John. I appreciate the comment.

7/11 on the CO is a killer. A $3 Yo on the CO could be a good DC hedge to take the 11 away. Also sucks when the point is a 6 or 8. In that case, I place the point 6/8 with enough to cover the DP, then make a new DC bet to get it on a better outside number. E.g., $40 DP, point is 6, so $36 Place 6 ($30 if you're OK risking only $5), then $40 DC, DC moves to, say, the 5, then $18 Place 8 and $20 Place 5. I like to collect the first hit (or two) so that I can make my DP/DC more valuable, then I half press. Good vid. Thanks!

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. All good advice. There a are holes in this strategy but you did a great job of pointing out how to plug some of them. You have to be careful not to hedge yourself out of winning anything.

You guys starting to show great DO strategies. Nice work

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I play a hybrid strategy at the table. I lean toward Don’t strategies it if the table is trending right, you have to have a light side strategy.

The Dice Dominator said in one of his training sessions something very appropriate to the early parts of his video. "The key to winning more is to lose less." Sounds obvious but the first four rolls proved the simplicity of that statement. Many people (including me) will often put Place bets on all the numbers immediately after the Come Out roll which would have resulted in a $300 loss.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Sound advice. The 7 will come. The only other hole in the strategy is the come out 7 but I don't like to try to hedge that. Once on point, the odds are in your favor to win something.

@skinovtheperineum1208

2 жыл бұрын

Then do this: Spread your bets out across the numbers BEFORE the Comeout. Don't forget to buy the 4 and 10. Don't work the bets on the Comeout. This way, the extra seconds taken to set up your bets will change the stream of time and there will not be a 2nd roll seven-out.

@HERSH-777

2 жыл бұрын

@@skinovtheperineum1208 “this was the extra seconds will not change the stream of time” DUDE…WTF Does that mean?

@jamesfraser7394

6 ай бұрын

@@snakeeyeswins1 I hang out and practice with one of the Team Rosebud shooters. Keep practicing.

I actually appreciate the unedited ness and mistake in this video keeps it genuine

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. That means a lot. I hope my newer videos have fewer mistakes as I have more experience. Thanks for the support.

On Point , Thank you for this video and any craps player of beginning knowledge knows about the DP loss on the 7 or 11 6 ways of 36 (7) and 3 ways of 36 (11) so 9 ways of 36, however there is a win on the come out on the 2 or 3 so you have an edge into that 1 way of 36 (2) and 2 ways of 36 (3) so 3 ways of 36.. My thought is a hedge by hopping the sevens for 2 dollars each or 6 dollar hedge. I realize its a poor player edge as a stand alone with a 15 to 1 payout and house edge of 11.11 % but integrated into the strategy, the Seven then pays 30 dollars less the 4 dollars for the other 2 dollar each bet on the non way Seven hop. That would lessen the complete loss of the Seven on the come out. Then consider a 3 roll following point made and then.take down the placed six and eight regardless of those numbers hitting at all or hitting all 3 rolls. Then leave your DP until point loss or a more likely Seven out win. Always a leak in any strategy but this one I see your working with a house edge of 1.36 percent on the DP and 1.52 percent house edge on the Place 6 and 8 but with a hit and win and run when your up 20 percent or so it seems like a good risk to reward compared to many other strategies.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the excellent comment. I typically do not hedge but you make a good case.

Nice win brother! Great video

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Great video Mike. I'm going to try it next time. The only problem for me is that I hate the Don't Pass line for I feel the shooters think I'm rooting against them, but I know it's the right bet. I just love yelling and clapping when someone makes a point. You have a new subscriber :)

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael. You can bet the DP and still do all the cheering when other box numbers hit. When then 7 hits just silently take your win and pat yourself on the back. Let other players know you are not betting against them, you are all betting against the casino. If you bet DP and someone else bets pass, the casino makes no money.

@michaeldequatro1012

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps I never thought of it that way, and thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Some people don't get back at all.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldequatro1012 no problem. It is my pleasure. I try to answer every comment.

@jhf444

2 жыл бұрын

Who cares what other people think, your there to win money, period! You are not taking there money when someone 7s out, the casino is...

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhf444 Very true. Other players can make for a miserable time if they keep making comments thought. Fortunately I have never had someone say anything to me but I have been asked why I was playing the don’t.

I used this system in Vegas last August and walked away a winner!

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Always good to hear that! Congratulations. Thanks for watching.

This is my go to strategy. When in profit will half press as well as spread out to the other numbers, hoping to catch a big roll.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Great plan. It is a pretty solid strategy. Just don’t try to hedge your way out of the holes.

@marcusbmarc

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps absolutely right, I tried that once with a different strategy, poor results.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcusbmarc Thanks. There is a time and place for hedging, but typically at higher levels of investment.

Beginner here. Would playing the don't followed by a Come bet instead of placing protect against the point/seven/out?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but that is a completely different strategy. It also sparks a debate about place vs come bets. To see an example of what you are talking about, see one of my Hedgeless Horsemen videos.

Excellent, like this a lot, my version was $3o DP, but I like the $40 better, if I get A hit I do the STRETCH, by adding $ 3.00 , I go $60 outside , again well done

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Stretch is always an option. I normally wait until I get some profit before that though.

This strategy I use with a progression on the 6 ,8.if the shooter doesn’t throw the six or eight then I increase 30 percent each time he 7 out until it’s thrown then pull back. This is very effective.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Any progression strategy is good as long as you have the bankroll. I will try it out and see how it works.

@herbertlong3981

Жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Actually NO progression strategy works no matter what your bankroll. You are hired to drum up business for the casino industry, arent you? Lets be honest. No one could be as ignorant as you appear to be

Fine strategy only thing I would have changes is branching to the 5 and 9 after the 2nd hit.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I agree on spreading out. Especially with a good shooter. This video just shows the meat of the strategy. Add what works for you.

Excellent video. And thank you(!) for telling people that "Can't Lose" is NOT a fact. It's just a name. I'm a poker playing who occasionally relaxes at a crap table. Yup, I know it's a losing game. I think of any losses as entertainment fee.

@OnPointCraps

10 ай бұрын

Great way of looking at it. You can win if you are disciplined. I played last weekend and won $600 off of a $300 buy in. It was a grind and I walked away from the table a few times when I was up about $100 and then came back. If I had lost the $300 I would consider it an entertainment fee since my meals and hotel were already comped and I would have spent that much had they not been.

My husband and I just started using this method before I even watched this video, but we were more into the don't pass bar than betting 6,8 too. But it's true, though I've noticed that my husband is good at getting 6,8s but we were not confident enough to bet on those 2 numbers, but I after watching this video It gave my conformation. We will play this method with confidence now :) thank you

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. Thanks for the comment.

@nedlalley6314

4 ай бұрын

How exactly do you get "good" at hitting 6 8. Are there people who are bad at it too.

Hey Mike. Just an update for you. I pulled my homemade crap table from the garage and tried your strategy and it worked. I just modified it a little bit. I only put $12 on the 6 & 8, but when I rolled 4 numbers in a row, I increased $6. Also, if the point was 4 or 10, I increased my DP line another $40. Can I do that? Not sure how that works. Anyway, I won $350 yesterday and $500 today. I'll try it out again for a few weeks before I do it live. Thanks again.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! This strategy is just a foundation. You can’t raise your DP bet but you can place odds. It will pay 1:2 on the 4/10 so $40 bet will pay $20. $12 bet works on a $10 table. I showed it at $15 because that’s the minimum bet at most casinos near me.

@michaeldequatro1012

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Thank you so much again. I'm learning a lot from you.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldequatro1012 I appreciate that. There is a great craps community on KZread. There is a lot to be learned and many ways to play. I am glad you like my content.

I'll try this strategy on the 5th of December thanks.

@OnPointCraps

7 ай бұрын

Good luck. Post here when you are done and let us know how you did.

Well done brother

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Pleasure chatting with you.

Got a question. So if we play the dont pass, and we're sticking to this rule of 678. Lets say the point actually happens to be a 6 or 8, which are the numbers we're betting 18 and 18 with. If the dice roll 8 we win that 8, but lose on the dont pass bet correct? so if we're betting $40 on dont pass but win the 8 we're still losing money. If you wouldnt mind helping me understand im sorry.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

In that situation you will have a net negative, but you have hedged your loss. You can then play the next shooter without a Pass/Don’t Pass and you are betting on them with nothing additional taken from your bankroll. Additionally, if you are getting shooters with repeat hits on the point, you can shift bet off 6/8 to the 5/9. I hope that helps a little.

5:31 You have to place your Don't pass BEFORE you roll the 1st roll . You lose on a 7 or 11 and win on a 2-3 and 12 is a push.Once a point is hit you need to make a 7 before the point. The $40 loss on the 1st roll must be accounted for in the math.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input Mike. You are correct. The come out roll is the biggest hole in this strategy.

@mikekinsella2822

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Yep It blows up your bankroll very quick if you lose Three $40 dollar comeouts in a row.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikekinsella2822 fortunately that doesn’t happen too often. It does happen though. That’s why it is called gambling.

@lydellmaribone25

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps I play daily in Vegas! Happens all the time! You're misleading the viewers who don't know..especially with only $40!!! You're already betting far outside of the budget rules! Don't listen to this guy!!! Of you have to hide from the "7" at any time,.you don't have a system. Partner with the 7!!.You guys constantly upload videos running from the 7 and as soon as I see it, I know you don't have a winning system. You're right, You're gambling! I go and win daily here in Vegas!!! I'm interested to know where do you guys even live? Are there even casinos where you are because you seem to play more at home with fake money telling other people the wrong ways to play??

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@lydellmaribone25 Thank you for the constructive criticism. I live on the east coast and have several casinos near me. Many of the tables are $25 minimum. Finding a strategy that works with an “Everyman” budget is difficult. I am not running from the 7. With a $40 DP, I cannot afford to have the other $36 working during come out due to the strength of the 7. I recently did a video where I utilize a lay bet to shift the risk from the 7 to the 4. It takes a larger bankroll though because if the lay number hits it can be devastating. I am not trying to mislead anyone. I appreciate your insight and would love to see you try your hand at producing some videos so we can see how play.

I have used this strategy and it does pretty well EXCEPT when the come out 7s eat you up. If you have the bank roll. I would suggest laying $30 on the 6 and $30 on the 8 on the come out. If big red hits on the come out, you get paid from the lay bet. If a 6 or 8 hits on the come out, you only lose $30 and your Don't bet has a mathematical advantage over a 6 or 8. Always take the lay bet down after the come out. Some people will also put a bet on the yo (11) on the comeout but I usually just risk losing the Don't on an 11.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Nice advice. I like it.

@724riff

Жыл бұрын

I agree but why wouldn't you wanna lay the 4 and 10 and then place the 6 n 8 after

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

@@724riff That is another option. There is not real good reason as to why one strategy over another. They are all just tools in the toolbox.

@gomlin3108

Жыл бұрын

@@724riff statistically the 4 and 10 are better for the lay bet, but you have to risk 2x the money for 1/2 the reward on a 4 or 10. The 6 and 8 have much less money at risk even though they are more likely. Also keep in mind that the lay bet IS ONLY for the come out roll. Pull those down after the comeout. With a 1/6 chance of a 7 on the comeout, you are just trying to protect your Don't bet. If the 7 comes, you make $50 (minus vig) on the combined $60 lay bet on the come out. So you loose the Don't bet but buffer it with the lay win. If a 6 or 8 becomes point, you lose $30 but your Don't bet lives past the come out and has a statistical advantage (slight). The 11 is the hole on the come out, but you could put a small bet on the 11 on the come out if you wanted to.

@douglasscovil3447

Жыл бұрын

you're going to get burned regularly if you lay both the 6 and 8, even if it's just for the comeout roll

I like the strategy, I like the $40 Don't Pass hedge and I'm going to add that to my play to see how it might help, but I like to place the 6 and 8 'NO' on the come out roll while playing minimum on the pass line while taking 10x odds on a good point like 6 or 8 and sometimes I'll do the same while placing the 5, 6, 8, and 9 all 'ON' on the come out roll because I don't want to miss winning when I get a good point on the come out instead of Big Red which seems to be the case most of the time if I don't have the place bets turned on. And unless it's a hot table with long rolls I'll take three wins and then just take it all down because Big Red is inevitable. But if there's a lot of hot shooters with long rolls I might press them up and try for six or seven wins then take it all down because Big Red eventually comes and I hate loosing a bunch of pressed bets when that happens. it's conservative paly with the occasional press and hope for six or seven wins. I miss a few additional wins sometimes, but I don't often lose a lot of pressed up place bets to Big Red unless there are a quick PSO's in rapid succession. I don't know why more players don't just take bets down after a few wins because sometimes there are long rolls and everyone plays for those, but more often than not there are three or four rolls and then a PSO. What do you think Mike?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Conservative play is good. I am a fan of regression strategies. That way you don’t pull all the money down in case there is a long roller.

@herbertlong3981

Жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps But again, you have done nothing to reduce House edge. And HE is what you will lose over the long term. Also typically "insurance bets" employ bets with a huge HE I get what you are saying here, but the danger is that people think you have presented a strat that can win overall. You have not. Combining these bets cannot diminish HE one iota Making a clusterf**k of bets just confuses people with clusterf**k minds into believing those bets win overall, or diminish HE overall. They do nothing of the sort. You better be having great fun at this, because you wont make a profit at it

@darrellnypaver580

Жыл бұрын

I have been playing craps for 45 years. You are a smart player. Good strategy!

@herbertlong3981

Жыл бұрын

@@darrellnypaver580 Why would one spend 45 years playing craps? I hope it was fun, because if you played extensively you lost a pile of money.

@herbertlong3981

Жыл бұрын

@@darrellnypaver580 But obviously the best strat would be to play the pass or the dont and put max odds on the bet before making any other bet. FI, the house edge on the pass is 0.326%. The dont is even less. On the other hand, place bets have a huge house edge. a placed 4 has a HE of 6.7%. A placed 5, a HE of 4.0 %. A placed 6 a HE of 1.51%. A fully place bet strat has a HE of around 4%. That is 13 times the HE you could have.

Point Established and then a 7-out occurs mathematically 16.67% of the time -- Each roll is independent and it is impossible for the 7 to magically show up an extra 12 % of the time just because the previous roll established a point. Now, with that said, bets are resolved after 2 rolls approximately 28.1% . 16.7% of the time you 7-out and 11.4+% of the time you make the point - ie N then 7 = 16.7% and N then same N = 11.4+% . The N then same N will vary based on the Point Established.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

I have seen Pro Craps' 1,000,000 roll statistics that show the 28%. This strategy works will with a PSO, it is just a slow grind.

@old7PSO

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Explain the magic to me it ain't in the math. PS -- Don't believe everything you see on the internet -- be happy to send you the math

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@old7PSO No magic. It is just the percentages that showed up after 1,000,000 rolls on win craps. After 10,000,000 the percentage may drop. Regardless, the probability of rolling a 7 is always greater than the probability of rolling a point so the odds are in your favor. You just have to beat the come out roll. Please send me the math. I think I understand, but maybe seeing the numbers will help. Thanks for the input.

@old7PSO

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps OK, then start tracking your rolls for PSO and let me know if you are above 17% after 1000 resolved points -- Trust but verify.

@hulenbryant5637

2 жыл бұрын

OLD #7 is correct. Every roll of the dice is an independent event. There are 6 ways to roll a 7 out of 36 possible outcomes. 6 / 36 = 16.67 % no matter how you slice it. It’s the same as not having your place bets working on the come out roll. Mathematically speaking, it’s no different than any other roll and there’s no advantage to it other than keeping your money a little longer. It would be the same as calling all of your bets off in the middle of a roll. That being said, this looks like a pretty good money Mgmt system. I think I might try it my next trip to the table.

Nice man! how bout playing Netherlands for the first shoot, then take down the pass line bet and place the six and eight?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

The reason to play the Don't Pass is that the 7 will eventually roll. You are hoping to capitalize on the next two strongest numbers and hit the 6&8 before the 7 comes. If you take down the Don't Pass, you lose whatever you are betting on the 6&8.

nice strategy, i think i will double it and try laying odds on a 4/10 point.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

That is an interesting take. You could also lay a 4 or 10 to protect against come out 7. That will hedge one of the holes in the strategy.

Very similar to the way I often play.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

I play this way if I plan to be at the table for a while because my wife is playing slots.

Great video and strategy. I get caught up once I get to the table and this is a great way to stay disciplined. Thanks

@OnPointCraps

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I am glad you liked it. Remaining disciplined is key at the table. This strategy can be a bit of a grind, but sometimes it is not how much you win, but how much you can avoid losing.

I have a question, actually 2. Suppose the point is a 6 or 8. What do you do? Do you still put your money on that number or do you play a 5 or 9? Also, What does the 12 next to the Don't Pass line mean? Do you win on the come out roll? Suppose the Come out roll is a 2 or a 3? Thank you.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Great questions Michael. If the point is 6 or 8, you can place the 5 or 9. I would just move to the next outside number. I don't recommend hedging against yourself. The 12 is "barred", hence Don't Pass bar 12. It just means that the 12 is a push. It is how the house maintains it's edge. Lastly, a 2 or 3 on the come out wins on the DP and has no effect on the 6/8. I hope this answers your questions. Feel free to contact me at onpointcraps@gmail.com if you have more.

@michaeldequatro1012

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Thank you so much

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldequatro1012 No problem. That is what I am here for.

Hello...I tired this strategy this evening (1/29/22) with $400 bank roll at Red Hawk Casino outside of Folsom, California. True to the name it worked well! I netted $300 plus tips for the crew in about three hours of table time. During long rolls I wondered whether there would be a good for pressing/regressing and covering the outside numbers that would be compatible with the basic strategy. Any thoughts? Thanks very much! The video was nicely done.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I am glad to here it worked for you. It can be a grind if you PSO or 6/8 not hitting. Once you hit the 6/8 twice you are in profit. If they hit a 3rd time I would place the point to help hedge the loss on the don’t pass. From there you can start spreading to the numbers of your choice. Hope that helps.

@mikepinkerton8346

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps One other question: What do you think about $10 bet per line for a "Do-we-Don't" for the COR? If the Don't doesn't get wiped out, then lay $30 odds on it and and implement your 6/8 strategy (Would $30 odds be the correct amount for odds bet?). If the "Do" is the winner on the COR, then go with a Right Side strategy. This would seem to eliminate the nasty light side winners on the COR.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikepinkerton8346 I will have to think on that and try some different scenarios. My local casinos don't allow a Do-we-Don't so I haven't practiced it. $30 odds bet is a "legal" bet so I can answer that one question for you. I will get back to you once I play around with it a little bit.

@mikepinkerton8346

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps my report on "Do-e-Don't" tweak. I got my lunch eaten for me...! I think I have the amount of odds on the Don't wrong...Have you noodled through this? I'd like the benefit of your thoughts,. please.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikepinkerton8346 My first thought is don’t play odds. I am not at odds player on the don’t. I don’t like putting out extra money that wins less than I am putting at risk. When it loses it hurts bad. Haven’t had a chance to try it myself. Give me about a week or so.

Does it make sense to do 12 on the 6 and 12 on the 8 and 25 on the dont at 1st? to see how it goes?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

On a $10 table for sure. This example was just done on a $15 table.

Nice quick win!!

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I like this strategy. It is simple.

@justinjdavis79

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps I do as well!!

How do you play this strategy on after a 7 or 11 is rolled before the point is established ?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

That is one of the weaknesses in this strategy. Either same bet on a new come out or you could try to minimize the loss and just play 6/8 once point is established.

I like the strategy but would it be more profitable if you play the pass line instead of the don’t pass line.? Please reply

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Napoleon. That depends on the dice. If the.point hits then yes. You get paid on the pass line whereas here you lose. This strategy banks in the fact that everyone inevitably hits the 7. As long as the 7 hits before the point, you will make money.

I enjoyed your video very much. Can this strategy be used for Bubble Craps?

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely! $6 Don’t pass and $3 each on 6&8

@sciencesleuth4781

5 ай бұрын

​@@OnPointCraps Thanks for replying. I saw that people were asking the same question over and over again. Maybe put that tidbit in the video description? Loving your videos!

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

@@sciencesleuth4781 thanks. I appreciate the advice. I probably should edit the description to cover some of the frequently asked questions.

Awesome clip what’s the opening song called..?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I am not really sure. It is some royalty free song from my video editor (VLLO). I will look and see what the title is.

Can you back up your bet on a don’t pass bet? The same as a regular pass bet?

@OnPointCraps

8 ай бұрын

Do you mean put odds on it? Yes, but they pay in reverse. 4/10 pay 1:2, 5/9 pays 2:3, 6/8 pays 5:6

cool strategy i love that

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It is simple and effective. It can be a grind but over time it can win a profit.

How does it affect your EV if you also buy/place whatever number comes up point?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the question. I am not sure exactly how to answer it. There is a lot of statistics math that goes into it that I am not an expert at. It depends on the number. The strategy relies on betting the 3 strongest numbers. Let’s say you hit the 10 as the point. That is a 2:1 disadvantage against the 7. If you place the 10 and 7 comes, you are no longer making profit on a 7 out. It does increase your spread and if the number hits only once, then you are ahead again. I hope that helps.

@MichaelJamesActually

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps very true. Idk if a casino would even let you do that. seems like you're really mitigating your losses in that scenario, and they may not be in favor of it.

Do I have to be a shooter to bet on the “come “ and “don’t pass bar” btw love the videos!!

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments and support. No, you don’t have to be the shooter. By the way, I think I misspoke in this video, it is the Don’t Pass- Bar 12. Good luck at the tables.

? Why not work 6/8 on the comeout, and what do you do if the point is a six or eight?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Just personal preference. I haven’t logged rolls to prove it but I feel I got burned on come out 7 a lot. If point is 6/8 I place bet on next outside number.

When you start seeing PSO, stop the Place bets. Start adding some Lay bets.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely good advice Jim. I will probably do a video of just me playing and adjusting strategies on the fly. For this video I just wanted to keep to the strategy.

What do you do when the don't pass point is 6 or 8?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

I typically just move the bet to the next outside number. 5 for 6 and 9 for 8. Alternately you can keep it. It will just minimize winnings.

What happens if a seven is rolled on the come out ? if the point is hit you loose the don’t pass bet ?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

You lose the don’t pass in both situations. The strategy relies on hitting the two most likely numbers after the 7 to hit and win your money prior to that. See my video on plugging holes in the 6,7,8 strategy to answer your questions better.

I like this strategy

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It is pretty basic. It has it's flaws, but there are some ways around them. Nothing is perfect, but this can do well.

thanks

@OnPointCraps

2 ай бұрын

My pleasure.

I’m moving back to Vegas next month and I need to make some cash. You got a new subscriber here. What you think about the bubble craps machine?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome, and thanks for the Sub. I have mixed emotions about bubble craps. They are great for the low roller. I prefer to play at the table but minimums are sometimes restrictive. My fear, though, is that if players keep using bubble craps, they will never lower table minimums. They are often $25 here in Maryland.

@happymangovegan5180

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Wow $25 minimum That’s crazy. A lot of locals casinos in Vegas you will find $5 minimum table. Btw thanks for answering my question. Good luck with your channel. 🎉

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@happymangovegan5180 Thanks. I try to answer every question. Good luck in Vegas.

and if the blocked number is one of the 3 most common numbers (6 and 8)?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Great question. I address it in the video. You simply place the next outside number. The 5 or 9 respectively.

Would it make sense to play the pass line too? That way you avoid the 7 on the come out roll?

@OnPointCraps

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting. That is a dooey don’t. It kind of defeats the strategy as the strength comes in winning the don’t when the 7 eventually comes. It does hedge the come out but does no good after that. I hope that makes sense.

@itzamia

5 ай бұрын

@brandonmundson You're cancelling out the bets with a chance of a number wiping out one of your pass/don't pass bets before a point is established.

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

@@itzamia exactly!

What if you if you roll a 6 or 8 on the come-out roll. I noticed that didn't happen in his video.

@OnPointCraps

9 ай бұрын

Your choice of how to play. You could just play the other number against the 7. I typically just move to the next outside number i.e. if I roll a 6 I place the bet on the 5.

The biggest flaw that is obvious right from the start is the risk to the Don't Pass bet on the come out rolls. Those inevitable 7s on the come out rolls will absolutely decimate your bankroll soon enough.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

True enough. Fortunately there is enough bankroll to hopefully get to a long roll.

Can you bet the DP after the point has been established?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

No. It has to be placed prior to the come out roll. I apologize if I placed it later during the video. I know that can cause confusion. If I forgot to place it and rolled a come out 7/11, I would have considered that a loss.

Nice simple strategy, but I would lay the 4 or 10 instead of the don't pass. ( i think someone already mentioned that in another comment). In my humble opinion though...Craps is really just a roll of the dice. don't expect to win every time but I still love the game!

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and excellently stated. I like to say the dice tell the story. I love the game as well!

@ferb4442

2 жыл бұрын

What are laying on the 4&10? $40 each? Risking $80 to win $40. $38 with the vig. Risk only $40 on dont to win $40. Plus can lay odds if point is 4/10.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@ferb4442 maybe worried about come out 7 and laying after point.

@th3trunkmonkey129

2 жыл бұрын

Just a different way to run the strategy. Yes you have to lay more on the 10 or 4, but the odds of those two rolling versus the 7 on the come out are much safer. I guess it just depends on your bankroll and how much you're willing to put on the table per roller.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@th3trunkmonkey129 agreed. Shifting the risk from 7 to the 4 can work. Maybe I will do a rollout on that.

What the about if u play higher on 6 8 and 7 if u bet higher

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

You just need to keep a similar ratio between 6/7 and the Don’t Pass line. If you bet $30 on the 6/8 then make sure you have a $70 Don’t pass. Once you are in profit you can always press your bets or place additional numbers as well.

Do you have a strategy to minimize your risk after a profit point is reached? For instance, since the DC is a contract bet, you obviously cant remove it. So, that only leaves the place bets as options. Is there a profit point where you would turn your place bets off and ride out the DC ? Or maybe move the place bets to odds on the DC ? This is an area, just learning this game, that I am struggling with, especially in a strategy where one winning roll ( for the DC in this case), off sets the two other bets. Still yeilds a $4 profit, but if you could have turned them off, got them out, or moved them to odds, at a certain profit point, you could really realize a nice win off that last roll.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

The don’t pass is not a contract and you can pull it. However, most everyone will tell you never to pull it. The 7 will show up. If you hit a profit goal, you can pull the place bets and ride out the Don’t. I don’t have a specific point where I do this. You need to feel out the table. Not quantifiable, just the way the table is trending. Hope that helps.

@jhf444

2 жыл бұрын

You can remove your DC bet or tell the dealer you don't want it to travel to number rolled. I believe it's the come bet you can't remove after it goes to a number...

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhf444 correct.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhf444 you are correct. I misspoke and have taken my lumps for doing so. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@joev.7909

2 жыл бұрын

Tgbhbh

What do you do when the point is 6 or 8? You can’t make a place bet on the point.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

You can bet the 6 or 8 but it hedges your DP. I typically just move to the next outside number.

This is what I do and it works!!

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

It is certainly consistent. It may not win you big, but any winnings are better than none.

What do you do when the point is 6 or 8? Same bet?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

You can same bet and hedge the DP or move the bet to the next outside number. Your choice.

You only had $40 on the Don't, you paid your PSO $45

@OnPointCraps

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, good catch. It has been brought up in previous comments.

This may be a good system to cash out Bonus chips. I won a BJ Tournament in Vegas and awarded about $35,000 chips. I played craps using theose chip. They are 100, 500 and 1000 chips. If I win $100 on a passline bet, they give me a regular black chip. In the process of playing the $35,000 Bonus chips, I did not have a lot of luck and lost about $7,000. I was just playing the passline, free odds and place the 6 and 8. I can't bet passline and don't pass at the same time. I am going to use your system to cash out my bonus chips next time. Can you suggest other system for this purpose?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

That is a great question. Since bonus chips are typically only allowed on passline or don't pass bets, I would bet the DP only. Maybe hedge the comeout roll with a lay bet (4 or 10). Once a point is established, the odds are in your favor.

Yeah great idea except rolling a 7 on the comeout is the killer. Four sevens on the come out roll pretty much wiped out $160. of my bankroll. It went down from there.

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Yikes! That is an abnormality but it does happen. There ways to plug that hole (I have another video on it) but it opens up another potential gap. There is no perfect strategy.

What happens if the point is 6,8? What do you do if the point hits?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. If 6/8 is hit, you can slide to the next outside box number. Point being hit is a hole in this strategy. You will lose the DP but your 6/8 investment is still good and you can just go with that for the next shooter.

Not trolling. Just want to emphasize ,as you said at the end of the video, anyone contemplating trying this that a few 7/11 rolls on the come out or points rolled on the D.C. will do a number on your bankroll that is hard to come back from. Good luck and enjoyed the video. Thank you

@OnPointCraps

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I have another video that addresses this issue. There is no perfect strategy.

Are these strategies applicable to crap machines as well? Or just table

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

If you mean bubble craps, it works too. You can even bet at lower levels then at the table.

I see that you back alligator wall isn't set up correctly. There is supposed to be about a two foot flat back wall section in the middle of the table with a mixing bowsl on both sides of that in the corners only. This gives you a flat surface to hit the back wall in the middle of the table. Your table is set up with a continuous curve in your back wall, with no flat back wall area in the middle, which will greatly change what you can toss with your dice.

@OnPointCraps

6 ай бұрын

Thanks. I realize it is not to standard. It is the best I can do with what I have. Once I make the big bucks I will buy an actual table. Thanks for supporting me and getting me closer to that goal.

Start out with a $10 DP then add $30 in odds if the point is favorable.

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. That is a possible variant.

What happens when you hit the point? Do you lose the don’t pass $40 bet?

@OnPointCraps

Ай бұрын

Yes. If the point gets hit, you will lose the DP. The point of the strategy is that you are betting on the strongest numbers. If 6 or 8 are the point, I bet the next outside number.

Does this strategy still work if the table is paying 6/5 (instead of 7/6) on numbers 6 and 8 ?

@OnPointCraps

10 ай бұрын

Good question. I have never seen that. In theory, yes. I would have to rework the math. You could bet less on the don’t pass

@timmygolfs

10 ай бұрын

@@OnPointCraps interesting, I tried a couple online casinos last night and both paid 6/5 on place.

Perfect

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I may try it. I tried several strategies but failed

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Good luck at the tables. No strategy is failproof, but once you beat the come out with this strategy, you’re betting on the strongest numbers.

What happens if the point is a 6 or an 8 what do you do?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

If point is 6 or 8 I typically just move to the next outside number 5 or 9 respectively.

I do this a lot but always work on come out after a 7. How do you recover if the DP gets knocked off?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

That is pretty much the only hole in the strategy. If I get whacked I will come out with another $40. If it happens again I pull my chips and wait for a new shooter. I would be down $80 from my $300 but it can be grown back.

@anthonygorrell1343

2 жыл бұрын

Martingale? 80$ 36/36

@anthonygorrell1343

2 жыл бұрын

18/18 , for 44 payout on 7out I mean

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonygorrell1343 You could martingale if you have the bankroll. I just rely on the slow grind to try to win it back.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonygorrell1343 I understood what you meant.

Can I bet more than that ? Are is it part of the strategy

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

You can bet what your bankroll allows. Just keep the ratio the same so that you cover the 6&8 with the DP.

Interesting strategy, however, the Pass/Don't Pass bet has to be placed b4 the come out. An Any7 bet might be an interesting hedge once the point is made to protect against the PSO. The Don't Pass w/ Odds 'House Edge' is 1.36%, the absolute least of any craps bet & a bet that is killer on cold tables...

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I know the DP needs to be net first. I think I messed it up in the beginning due to everything going on and this was one of my first videos.

What happens if the point established is 6 or 8?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

The choice is yours. Move the bet to another number, or remove the bet and just work the DP and the other number.

figuring out numbers... what if the table bet minimum is $25? and what if I wanted to double or triple the amount?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and great question. Start with your 6&8 bet. A correct bet on $25 minimum table would be $30 on each. Cover that with $60 on the DP. From there you can double or triple the bets easily. Make sure you have bankroll for this.

@djgypsymic5593

Жыл бұрын

thank you. yes oh of course.

@djgypsymic5593

Жыл бұрын

if I buy the 10 for $200 and try to parlay the hard 10 for $200 is there something else I can maybe do to protect my money?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

@@djgypsymic5593 Not really. You could cover the 11 as that is the only thing that will hurt on the come out. The problem is, It gets to the point where your hedges become a bleed with every roll.

If the point lands on 6 or 8 do you just not bet on the come bet for those?

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

If the point becomes the 6 or 8, I will typically just place bet the next outside number. Either the 5 or 9 respectively.

@pyronoid3738

4 ай бұрын

@@OnPointCraps oh ok thank you so much. I’m still very new to craps.

@OnPointCraps

4 ай бұрын

@@pyronoid3738 no worries. We were all beginners once.

The chances of these quick 7 outs makes me wonder if you're trying to throw 7s to prove a point. Seeing how in 2 roles it's miles more likely to not roll a 7 then to roll one but you keep getting them. May as well go for big red.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

If I had the ability to roll come out 7s on command, I would be a happy man. This is just the way the dice rolled. In this strategy I would like to hit the 6&8 more often to maximize payout.

@user-ni3sp5mz4u

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, just wow.

@boomknight1015

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps The chances are you should be hitting 6 or 8 more. Which is the weird thing

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@boomknight1015 I can’t say it enough. The dice tell the story.

@boomknight1015

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps The dice are wrong

What happens if the mark is 6 or 8?

@OnPointCraps

Жыл бұрын

Either place bet on next outside number or let it be. The 7 is still stronger than the 6 or 8 and you now have less invested.

7 or 11 on come out hurts this strategy. What to do when point is 6 or 8? Also if point is 6 or 8 maybe take down your don't pass bet?

@OnPointCraps

10 ай бұрын

You are correct. I have another video addressing the come out 7. If 6 or 8, I either leave it off or move to the next outside number. I would never take down don’t pass.

@John_knee80

10 ай бұрын

@@OnPointCraps thank you for your response! I'll check out your other videos

@OnPointCraps

10 ай бұрын

@@John_knee80 Awesome, thanks.

What about the come out roll . You loose the DC with 11and 7.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I mention elsewhere. Come out 7/11 and hitting the point are the wholes in this strategy. Once you beat the come out, though, the odds are in your favor

I agree that this strategy can lose because all those billion dollar casinos in Vegas were built with money from suckers who thought they could beat the house. The House never loses. If any bet on any table could beat the house, the house would not allow it

@OnPointCraps

8 ай бұрын

Well said. The key is to minimize your losses when you lose and take your wins when you get them.

Why bet the full $40 on the don’t pass line during the come out roll? That is just asking for a 7 or an 11 on the come out. Why not start out with a $5 bet during the come out roll, and then once the point is established, added a $25 odds bet to the don’t pass line? A 7 with that odds combination will yield $5 for the original $5 bet, and about $37 for the $25 odds bet, for a total of $42. I like to make the odds bet an even $30, and that yields $45 plus the original $5, for a total of $50.

@OnPointCraps

11 ай бұрын

Actually, that is actually a very fair point that I never considered.

@johnnyquick7128

11 ай бұрын

@@OnPointCraps I’m just a fresh set of eyes. I still have a lot to learn. Thank you for the video.

@OnPointCraps

11 ай бұрын

@@johnnyquick7128 No problem. I appreciate the comment. Sometimes a fresh set of eyes is the key to success.

Can you bet more on the six and eight and don’t pass? Or that defeats the purpose?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

You can bet more. It all depends on your bankroll. My videos cater to the “Everyman” with a lower bankroll. That is the only reason I went with that bet size.

@twosides5794

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Cool! Thanks! Love the vids!

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@twosides5794 I really appreciate that. It is my pleasure.

So you bet the don't pass first, point comes out you bet on the point, and you win if the point or 7 shows up.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Not exactly. In that scenario, assuming same bet, you would win if point is hit and break even if 7 is hit.

@robertkay5624

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps What if the 7 hit?

@robertkay5624

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps Yes if point hit i get profit, 7 hits i break even

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

If 7 (or 11) hits on come out either wait out the shooter or start process over. I never let a shooter burn me more than twice.

what do you do when the point is 6 or 8?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Great question. I typically place the neighboring number. It actually cost less, but less probability to hit the number. You could also keep the 6/8 and put a bet on the hard way of the point. A $5 bet will make up for the loss on the don’t pass, but if the number comes east you are out an extra $5. If bankroll is limited then I wouldn’t put any more money out.

@nathangrandmasterk9760

2 жыл бұрын

I have a table at home. I'm going to test this strategy now

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathangrandmasterk9760 Awesome! Let us know how it turns out.

@nathangrandmasterk9760

2 жыл бұрын

The results of the test are as follows: I simulated three different shooting styles and went through the first three shooters. The results were 1 win and 2 losses for minus $60. I then extended the system out to simulate Ten shooters. In total went 5 wins and 5 losses for minus $72. I would conclude that the system as is now, would loose due to many first roll 7's and 11's. All is not lost however! I modified the system to Martingale the Dont Pass. As long as the shooter didn't make more than 4 Frontline winners in a row, the system would win. In this test, using $500 starting chips, the system WON 10 out of 10.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathangrandmasterk9760 interesting. Like I say, the dice will tell the story. If come out 7s happen a lot then it can hurt. I will have to look at the ratio of come out 7 vs PSO.

Can’t u lay the 10 plus play the 6/8 the same time 🤔

@OnPointCraps

5 күн бұрын

You most certainly can. That is just potential putting more at risk. When that 10 gets rolled on the come out it really hurts.

What if the point is on 6 or 8?

@OnPointCraps

5 ай бұрын

I just move it to the next outside number.

All you have to do it is beat that come out roll and then make sure they hit 6 and 8 and you'll make some money but it's a slow grind lol. Idk just sounds funny but I'll give it a shot

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Really just need to beat the come out roll to make money. More if the 6/8 hit.

@jaydee6361

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps absolutely. It's something I will definitely try. Thanks for posting and also thanks for explaining that all these "never lose" strategies can all be beat!! I'm watching more of your stuff and will definitely try a few

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaydee6361 Great. I hope you enjoy.

It's not 'profit' it's called 'winnings' because you're gambling not buying and selling, producing and selling, or investing in an asset that goes up in value and selling it or earning passive income or cash flow from it. I love playing Craps and gambling and your channel is great. I just think you should call it what it is and not make it sound like your making a real investment in a real asset when your actually gambling; playing a negative expectation game of chance for money. Words have specific meanings and should be used properly in their proper context or people might confuse things like investing and gambling which are two totally different things.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting commentary. What if I have a separate account solely for the use of gambling. Is that any different then having an account to add/remove funds from the stock market. The market can be considered a gamble. If I “invest” $300 at the craps table and leave with $360, I have a $60 return on investment. I would call that profit. If I can consistently get s 20% ROI, that is better than most investments. I am glad you like my videos and appreciate taking the time to comment. I would love to hear more.

@momomimi6915

2 жыл бұрын

@On Point Craps - The definitions of the words are completely different and you're reasoning by analogy not first principals. Reasoning by analogy sounds good, but ignores fundamental truths like the precise definitions of words. I could compare many unrelated things to each other and reason that they are the same when in reality they are completely different even though they may have some metaphorical similarities. When someone invests they’re buying an asset like a stock and it can increase or decrease in value, it can produce passive income in the form of a dividend payment, and even if it decreases in value the owner doesn’t have to sell it and realize a loss. When someone makes a bet they are risking something, usually a sum of money, against someone else's on the basis of the outcome of a future event, such as the result of a race, game or the role of the dice. They’re risking money not buying an asset. There is some risk in buying an asset. But making a bet or gambling is inherently more risky because it’s based on probability. Investments are mostly real assets that can be bought, sold, held, and even used to create derivative assets like call options. I like gambling and craps a lot. I play responsibly and it’s a lot of fun except when I lose. I also buy stocks that I hold for very long periods of time using compound interest to my advantage while avoiding capital gains tax. I’d rather borrow against them at low interest rates then pay high rates of capital gains tax, so I rarely sell. Investing well in stocks allows me to play craps, not the other way around. They are two very different things. Keep making great videos. They are entertaining and informative. I think it sounds smarter to say ‘winnings’ than ‘profits’ and ‘risking’ or ‘gambling’ than ‘investing’. They’re definitely more accurate words to use when playing any negative expectation game of risk like craps. That way one gets misled.

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

@@momomimi6915 Thank you very much for this comment. I believe you may have persuaded me to change my terminology. Please forgive me if I still say profit on occasion as I try to adjust. Comments like this help the community tremendously and I appreciate it very much. Do you participate in Craps Chat, the live show put on by Mid Atlantic Craps? You should check it out. I will be suggesting this topic as a point of conversation for the next show. Thanks again.

@momomimi6915

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnPointCraps I'm glad to be a positive part of the conversation. I hope people will gamble responsibly. I know many that don't and suffer from the delusion that it's investing and they suffer terribly. I know people who invest like they're gambling by day trading and selling stocks after they've lost value instead of buying and investing in a stock long term and they suffer as well. I'm an English teacher so I see words used to make things seem what they're not by people in sales, marketing, advertising, law, politics, religion and more and they often lead others into doing or believing things that aren't true and I don't think that's right. To answer your question; No, I haven't yet participated in the Craps Chat by Mid Atlantic Craps. I'll check it out. Thanks for the replies and your content is great. Thank you.

Good video Mike! I would like to see a $300 to $500 bank roll Go fort strategy if you can come up with something like that would be great

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Scott. Thanks for the comment. I am not quite sure what you mean by "Go fort". Did you mean "Go For It", like an aggressive strategy. Give some background on what you mean and I will see what I can do.

Why aren’t you laying max odds on your don’t pass bet?

@OnPointCraps

2 жыл бұрын

Strategy does not call for odds. I don’t lay max odds when I play DP typically. I may lay $30 no matter the point just to try to get a little more.

DP is on shooter number will lost, DP can can play cool table, hot table will be lost

@OnPointCraps

3 ай бұрын

Possibly. This strategy just plays the three strongest numbers.