If you want to save the limits in the task scheduler just type those values after your core clock offset values. Lowering the limits let me keep same performance but reduced cpu temp by 20 C

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I'll give this a try, mind if I pin your comment for people to see as this is really helpful if it works as you mention 👍

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

If you could please let me know how you entered the values? I'm having trouble getting task scheduler to run with offset and values both being there.

@mannyfresh7065

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech I reduced my PPT, TDC, EDC limits this is what helped reduce my temps. 8:54 in the arguments, you type in your curve values for each core. That is 8 values. Then you type in your PPT, TDC, EDC and then 0 (0 means don't change any of the other fields like MaxBoost Temp LImit, FIT Scalar) So for example mine looks like this -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 95 80 100 0 PPT = 95W, TDC = 80A, EDC = 100A By reducing my PPT, TDC, EDC limits I saw almost 20C drop while gaming, no performance drop and actually hitting the 4,450 Mhz (before I woudl only hit 4,100 Mhz)

@mannyfresh7065

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech absolutely, it's not letting me edit my comment with me explaining how I entered the values, I responded below, but feel free to pin my response as well

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

​@@mannyfresh7065 gotchu fam, I had some issues trying out the numbers yesterday and I input 120 75 110 after the offset, but no luck. Imma attempt to input 120 75 110 0 in a bit and see if that does the trick

1 year later and cpu has been performing the same as day 1 with the same temps, just coming back to say how gratefull I am for this vid, helped me out so much

Great tutorial, thanks! Improved my multithreaded Cinebench R23 score by over 700 points. All cores boost to max now on my 5800X3D.

-30 offset on all cores 132W 85A 130A configuration has maximized my effective clock speeds while reducing temps by over 20 degrees celcius. Was hitting around 83c in far cry 5, now im at a very comfortable 62c after a long gaming session. Ive combined this with Fan Control to make the most out of my case fans and it has done wonders for my system. Thank you very much for your explanation and help Edit: 127W 80A 125A -30 all cores, stable for 2months now

@Pazo139

Жыл бұрын

Nice. What cooler do you have for your CPU?

@karelleet

Жыл бұрын

@@Pazo139 an old scythe mugen 5 rev b

@Pazo139

Жыл бұрын

@Karel Leet That's really good, even better than me with my 240mm AIO. I will redo the paste with a better one. I did -250mV in MSI bios as I couldn't really get PBO to work for some reason. I end up cruising in the low 70's at most with gaming so far. However, stress testing with the likes of Cinebench R23 makes it reach 90c albiet slower than stock voltage.

@karelleet

Жыл бұрын

@@Pazo139 I had terrible temps on my first paste, single dot method, then i reseated the cooler and i had spread out the paste a bit and it lowerwd the temps by a few degreees aswell, hope you can get pbo to work its really worth it, higher clock speeds + lower temps

@Pazo139

Жыл бұрын

@@karelleet Update; I redid the paste with my newly received Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut and spread the paste on the entire chip. Before that I did the dot method in the middle. Turned out I didn't put enough I guess. Because it hardly covered half the chip lol. Now my temps are great maxing 55c on Cinebench R23 with my continued undervolt. Also what are we referring to by higher clock speeds? Higher than 4.5ghz boost?

Hey man! I just want to thank you, I was searching for this for a long time! Your tutorial is the best and very easy to apply! Thanks again!

Thanks for the straight up easy to follow guidelines. Worked perfectly right away. My mobo doesn't have curve optimizer or pbo. This worked a charm!

Thanks a lot, I had an 240mm AIO for my 5800X3D and I didn't see a lot of improvement compared to my tiny aircooler it was still reaching 50-60 degrees idle now it's at a happy 35-40

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

That's good to hear!

Thanks so much for this tutorial, went from 80-90 degrees to 60s under full load. Amazing.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Super cool to see fam!

@xelerator2398

3 ай бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech Help me PLEASE : PBO settings changed (getting defound values) when waking up from sleep/hibernation . Anyone how to fix?

Deserved like, another video or two did the same thing but missed two key points and this video addressed both and allowed my system to run the task scheduler as needed. Thank you

So happy I stumbled onto this video. Thanks for making it man.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Gotchu fam, hope it helped👍

Thank you So much! for the indepth tutorial, was able to get my hands on -30 x8 and PPT 100W TDC for 70A EDC 100 temps 62 top on OCCT with 360mm AIO constant 4500MHZ, so much cooler and so much preformance gain thanks for the task setup i had trouble with that!.

Thanks for such a clear guide, worked perfectly.

-25 working well for me, thanks for the quick and easy guide.

@Harris.K

Жыл бұрын

Try please -28

Geez thanks man! I just installed my 5800X3D today and the spikes from 46 - 72 are crazy and almost instant just on processes like opening chrome!

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Dw it's completely normal for it to do that on startup. While it seems like weird behavior that's how they all function, I too got jumpscared by that when I first got in many months ago xD

@RuffRidersEvo

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech will undervolting help?

works for my 5800x3d, from 49c idle to 37c!!! Thanks a lot bro. Cheers. and i even applied a custom alert for every time PBO2 values have been applied.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear fam!

@Ladioz

5 ай бұрын

My 5800X3D is 32c at idle with a dark rock 4 air cooler and stock settings...........

I feel blessed that my MB bios lets me set my PBO2 curve so I don't have to jump through the task scheduler hoop. This video did help me tune my curve better tho and thank you.

My 5800x3d managed -30 for all cores. Seems stable after an hour of OCCT CPU testing and several hours of gaming. Thanks for the video!

@sorinpopa1442

Жыл бұрын

same with mine using -30 on all cores for like 4 months by now , 0 problems and manage to drop the temps by almost 11 degrees with this undervolt profile. Wonder if i can go lower then this , and try -35 or -40 ? :))) or -30 its the limit max ?

@HybOj

Жыл бұрын

@@sorinpopa1442 -30 is max, if u go lower, than nothing happens

@sorinpopa1442

Жыл бұрын

@@HybOj i.c ya thought the same , didnt saw anyone online that went lower then -30 yet ^^

Thank you sir, I bought this chip for better performance in dcs vs a 5600x . Initialy I was not impressed but with tweaking I got around 25 fps uplift.

Thanks for this! Im not completely clear how the curve offset values work, havent messed with OCing much at all really in over a decade, but was able to get my 5800x3d set to -30 on all cores wirh 120W/75A/110A, simply matching your settings on limits, but it ran the OCCT stability test for about 7 minutes before i stopped it, seems pretty solid!

@roberttaylor3118

Жыл бұрын

I had already set my infinity fabric, memory controller, and memory speed all to 1900mhz

@ij6708

11 ай бұрын

7 mins is not stress testing lol OCCT has several stability tests with different loads and 7 mins in barely goes into the first one

A month ago I did this and set all core to -30. Did many stress tests and games and never had crashing. Saw a nice boost in clocks it’s now at 4.45ghz stable even sometimes when all cores are being used. It’s higher then the clocks I was able to squeeze out manually from my previous 5600x. And my temps are looking juicy. Usually never goes above 75c in games.

@SSSx30

Жыл бұрын

When you get a chance please reply, new to the pc world and finally built my new pc yesterday. I did the -30 like you did and my max temps just sits at 78-79c max 100% load on cinebench. Is that bad? Multi core score was 15024

@Excal123

Жыл бұрын

i can never get my 5800x3d to 4.45 ghz max. Stocked its around 4250-4350. With pbo2 i get 4.42 maxed -30 all. I guess that'll have to do. My temps are never that high anyways with a krakenz63 i get around 60-65 at stock anyways... Edit: NVM task manager says cpu is at 4.42 but msi afterburner in game says its maxed 4.45...

@mannyfresh7065

Жыл бұрын

@@SSSx30 nope that’s really good!

@DanielSmith-ys3ov

Жыл бұрын

​@@Excal123I got the same setup and my temps are 85 on cinebench. Only 4.3 after the - 30. Am I missing something? Did you redo the paste on the x63? Is it loud also?

@Excal123

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielSmith-ys3ov that's really high temps. I've never had my temps over 80 not even close probably the highest I've seen recently was 72 and that was rare idk. I did redo the paste because I had to put the cpu in. Ambient temperature around here has been cold lately too so that might be part of why mine is lower I shall see in the summer months that should bump it up a little. Not sure what cinebench is as it might stress it more I'll have to see. My z63 also seems quiet too.

Your settings worked perfect for me, thanks

Awesome video! really glad you included how to edit after the task is created makes it easy to use for beginners. Went from 80+c to 75c in r23 while boosting to 4.45G all cores most demanding games (hell divers 2 was making my ac work overtime:) dropped 10/15c to around 60c with setting at -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 120 75 110 0. Best way to tame the spicy 5800x3d if your MB is locked curve like my ASRock x570. Air cooled with Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE in a Fractal Torrent case all fans now running at 25% instead of 50 to 60%.

Thanks for the video bro 🔥🔥✌️

Awe-freaking-some. Thank you!

This is GOLD, as well as the fixed comment!

Great video my man!

this video is exactly what i was looking for

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear fam!

Can be done, no problem -30 everything went perfectly... thanks saved !

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped fam 👍

thank you man for the video, followed step by step and now my 5800x3d performs really well on both 4k and 2k without surpassing the 70 celsius on many games, average 63 degrees celsius, before this the average was 72. thank u

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear that bro!

@MultiOlimac

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech hi man, yeah, im really grateful, however, was just taking a quick look to more info on the pbo tuner, does it have any sideeffects, read on some random reddit post that doing this has its disadvantages such as throwing in more current and voltage to the cpu for better temperatures and that that might in time cause damage to the cpu, have you read anything about this?

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@MultiOlimac that wouldn't make sense because with PBO2 you are using less current and voltage to achieve the same or better frequency 🤔 only time it can cause damage is if you indeed use more voltage then safe, but the pbo2 tuner app can't apply positive voltages, they just won't register at all, it can only apply negative offsets to 5800x3d.

@MultiOlimac

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech I’m such a dummie, that’s right, that’s why it’s called undervolting. One last question, could you please lighten me into what the offsets actually mean, for example, -20 means 20watts less on a specific core or what does it mean exactly?

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@MultiOlimac so it's-20mv, which stands for Millivolts. The offset changes the target voltage required to achieve a maximum frequency. Let's use the 5800x3d as an example. It's target frequency is 4.45ghz and it uses 1200millivolts (1.2volts) to achieve 4.45ghz, if you undervolt by -20, it'll use 1180mv (1.18 volts) to achieve that target frequency, while decreasing temps as a result of lower voltage.

Thanks, simple and fast, perfect.

thx! i have -30 all cores and running 65ºC max with NH-D15!

The 5800X3d is a good binned part because of its Voltage limitation due to its V-Cache , most 5800X3D will work with - 30 which is already the maximum , higher Numbers have no effect at the Curve Optimiser , i would choose this as the starting point and only if there are Problems i would reduce the value , my 5800X3D works since months without issues at -30

@mesicek7

Жыл бұрын

It depends what bin you get. You have really bad bins that cool really hard even with proper undervolting. I had the bad luck of getting one which can barely be cooled with an aio 360mm - under cpu intestive workloads and cinebench on stock temps rise to 90°C+, with pbo 85-86° with fan rpm's close to 2k. Optimum tech recently bough a second which was also a bad bin - very hard to cool compared to his first cpu.

@MK-xc9to

Жыл бұрын

@@mesicek7 Its the first Time i heard something like that with an 5800X3D , here is an CBR 23 run of my 5800X3D kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yp6f3KmPn7TZZdo.html In the right upper Corner you see the CPU Temp is at 77-78 C (celsius) with an Power consumption of 80-81 Watts , of course the Temp will go up a bit if you run cinebench for a longer Time , but you get an Idea how it looks like ( it depends on You Tube how long it takes to be aviable in HD ) The key is the Curve Optimiser at negative 30 , lower Power consumption = lower Temps even at full load .

@fernandosbtech

Жыл бұрын

@@MK-xc9to Well, I can be included in @mesicek7 case, I'm at -30 using Arctic MX-6 and AIO 360MM (Push and pull) and at CB R23 it is hitting over 81 which means it is dropping frequency already. I will be trying to use liquid metal as my last option. Pump is at 2700rpm, fans at 1600, no luck here..

@MK-xc9to

Жыл бұрын

@@fernandosbtech Well ... , thats my CB23 run , its ~ 400 CB lower because the record uses a tiny bit of CPU Power kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yp6f3KmPn7TZZdo.html and the Fans are far from full speed , of course it depends on the Room Temp as well , its 18-20 C by me . Besides , normally , Games do not use the CPU as hard as Cinebench does = the CPU Temps will be lower I use a Alphacool Eisbär , which is a expandable AIO , Full Copper Radiator I buyed it with a 240mm Radiator and added an 280mm Radiator , the 2x120 Fans blows hot air out of the Top with help of a 120 mm Fan at the Back , the 2 x 140 mmm Fans blow cold Air into the Case from the Front

@MrDromp

Жыл бұрын

@@fernandosbtech I just got my 5800X3D and have similar problems. I use a 360 AIO form Alphacool and liquid metal, I am not able to get the temps under 90°C in Cinebench R23. I also tried the same PBO2 settings shown in the vid, but still the same. It is driving me nuts. I first thought its a problem with my cooler and alreade dismounted it and reaplied some liquid metal to be sure, but did not make a big change.

Tip for 5800X3D owners, if you're still getting toasty temps, you can combine an offset in the BIOS (offset of the VCORE, so FE -50mvtt) with PBO. Seeing as the absolute clockfrequency isn't very high, -30 usually isn't enough to drop the temps. So I use a -50mvtt offset, then set -15 PBO2. Dropped temps from 75 to 65 and im hitting the same 4450mhz.

This seems like a great tool to test find your stable values....instead of having to run this task scheduler seems easier just to adjust your bios after you find your stable values.

Thank u sooo much i have temp like 90-92 on normal playing now i have only 76 max

I appreciate it man this software is a lifesaver

@Beefy-Tech

9 ай бұрын

🤝😎

I'm amazed man. -25 all core, set PPT 135, TDC 90, EDC 135 and now I'm maxing out at 75c (on air cooling) and boosting to the 4550 100% of the time when stress testing.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

That's the beauty of undervolting! On X3D cpu's (5800x3d, 7900x3d, 7950x3d) the results are always nuts. Lowering those Temps leads to best performance🙌

@baconn1ce

Жыл бұрын

With the ppt tdc and edc, how do you set that automatically in the scheduler?

@qubes8728

Жыл бұрын

What mobo you got mate?

@transcendtient

Жыл бұрын

@@qubes8728 Aorus Master

@qubes8728

Жыл бұрын

@@transcendtient Nice, ive got the Pro v2(b550). What has gaming performance been like with those settings? cheers.

Thank you! Literally minus 20 degrees via 15 minutes of tweaking. Works better than a water cooling chain :D

@yoool7137

Жыл бұрын

i wonder, why amd isnt doing this out of the box...its so weird

@kirillpal1443

Жыл бұрын

@@yoool7137 I guess, that there is some significant percentage of cpus that can not handle that. That would mean, that more cpus they produce would be defective. It is all about economics I believe

using at -30 with my 5800x3d for 6 months, and never had any issue, the temps never go above 64c in games with arctic air cooler! its just a must to do for this cpu. (my rx 6800 is stuck on 99% usage in every game)

@talal5716

Жыл бұрын

How did you do it

@robosergTV

22 күн бұрын

@@talal5716 watch this video.......................

This did absolute wonders for me. I got it all the way to -30 stable, so i guess I got a good bin. I'm sitting at 4.4ghz 80c at 80 watts. I know that the temps are still a bit high. I'm still using my hyper 212. I know I need to get a better cooler. I wasn't thermal throttling before, but I didn't like it sitting at 90c constantly. Edit: I actually changed my best, and 2nd best cores to -25 -27 to get better performance.

@cocosloan3748

Жыл бұрын

Thats because you had "clock-stretching". Few CPUs can go -30 all core without nuisance of "clock stretching" kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIifptN6gqfRd8o.html

@DubCity

Жыл бұрын

@Coco Sloan this doesn't seem to be the case for me. My effective clocks are almost all the same. My performance has also not seen a hit, but only gains. I did set my fastest cores with a different offset. However, my other cores seem to be fine.

@cocosloan3748

Жыл бұрын

@@DubCity Now maybe its fine - but while tuning and setting -30 all cores - you can observe that effective speed of all cores are lower than expected. That's because one core is getting to low voltage ,drops in frequency and takes all the other cores down with it , and needs to be adjusted higher in CO. Watch the video and check you do everything right . All I'm saying is there are maybe 5-10 CPUs in the world that can do -30 all core without issues !

@Lordofgamerz

Жыл бұрын

Same here but it's a 212 Evo, with be quite silent wing 4 fans for push pull combo, easily handles this cpu with -30 which I was able to get myself 🔥 usually chills around the 60s under load with gaming

@HitSousouK

Жыл бұрын

even with a fuma 2 it is hitting 90C, using the pbo2 tunner, now it is on 80C (though I'm on an ITX build -closed)

yeah 500th abo i was :) :D nice vid.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Sweet xD welcome 500th sub!

hmm my 5800x3D has never gone above like 70C in any stress test, infact I had thought this entire time it was one of the coolest chips I have ever owned but I am trying this currently to see what I get out of it. Thanks for the video and I hope I can gain something from it :)

Very effective Thank you. I guess im lucky, -30 all cores, -20 all limits. 4.45 all cores. 73watts. 58degrees (360 aio) and stable.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Very solid! Funny story this video is one of the few videos I posted months ago that still holds up well in terms of the quality of the tutorial...just wish I knew how to apply the limits back then, but the community figured it out in the meantime xD

@Moonmonkian

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech I was already pleased with the gaming performance having switched from a 5900x, and this is a Tinkerers icing on the cake.

nice job man

AMITool (if you can get a hold of it) can be used to write the offset values to bios on ANY AM4 board.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I have figured that typing the offset and then values with a 0 at the end does the trick for scheduler to set the limits too.

Great video!!!

I did the following in bios for my Ryzen7 5800X3D: -30mv all core, PPT88, TDC61, EDC90. In Cinebench i get 15088pts, max temp: 78-80, power consumption 103W, all core boost 4447MHz. Before when the power setting was managed by auto i was getting 15180pts with 90°C and 126W, all core boost 4444MHz.

Thank you, good job

Thanks for this video, my 5800x3D run better now (-10°)

@Beefy-Tech

8 ай бұрын

Awesome fam!

dang man, thanks alot!

Thanks for the help. I ended up doing your settings and things worked great. Then searched more info about how to set limits to scheduler and found out even better settings in overclock forums with lower temps with the same performance. Just replace values “-30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 95 60 90 0”. It just adds 95W PPT, 60A TDC, 90A EDC. Worked like a charm!

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I run with -30 now too! I didn't before just out of fear for stability but it was stable for a week so I stuck with it. And yes I only found out how to input the limits last week so didn't include in video unfortunately but you are right, and your limits are great👍 PS: girlfriend now has my 5800x3d as I moved to 7950x3d, but I input the scheduler with undervolt and limits for her!

@Monsux

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech Great! Btw... Your video was so good with step by step instructions. It saved so much time

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@Monsux I'm glad to have helped! I want to make more videos like this in the future in hopes it'll simplify everyone's time with a process that is otherwise not very clear xD.

@M4V3RiCkU235

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech Hello ! Put that values in Task manager (PT, TDC,EDC ). But I`m not sure how to check them if they apply directly. Ok, I restart - I entered in PBO2.exe. The -30 is in place, but the others (PT, TDC,EDC ) when I put them manually and click apply - say, "configuration changed". Is like the arguments for PT, TDC, and EDC are not applied after restart. Yes, I put the values in the task sheduler after -30.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@M4V3RiCkU235 in task scheduler where you have the -30mv line, ull have to type your 3 power limits, then type a 0. Your task scheduler line should look like this: -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 120 75 110 0 That 0 at the end is important for it to work👍

Great vid

Just wanted to mention a lot of motherboards do actually support pbo2 tuner in bios, but not all of them do. You will have to look up your specific motherboard and check to see if it had PBO2 support in bios!

@HitSousouK

Жыл бұрын

110w 70a 105a -30, is the best for mine - still not liking the temp - 80c - (but have to be fair as I am on a closed ITX build) and above all the total sys doesn't go above 300W under full load with a 6700xT :) don't think I can finetune it more...

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@HitSousouK I use 120, 75, 110 if I remember correctly, but yes, the case and cooling matters most here. You might be seeing hot Temps but in ITX it kind-of makes sense, especially with a cpu known to run hot

@nirmas8026

Жыл бұрын

Asus b550 strix wifi 2 Support it with the latest BIOS. I Set it to -30 all core in the curve optimizer setting direkt in the BIOS works perfekt.

@Cheesy1cheese

Жыл бұрын

Any clue if mine has it cuz I can't find running the latest bios version, X470 Asus ROG F-gaming?

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@Cheesy1cheese best way to figure it out is if you have "Curve optimiser" in the bios. I'm not sure if you have it but that's what you'd look for.

Start at -30 all-core and use Core Cycler to hammer the CPU with low load/high frequency testing - curve optimizer is most likely to crash at HIGHER frequencies (= LOWER loads). Also, BIOes now allow CO settings on the 5800X3D, so need need to set up a PBO2Tuner scheduler.

Yessirr -- 100 - 70 - 100 -30 all cores, 15 min test and its all stable.

Thank you

ty for the guide

subd thanks, will try this out

one year with -30 all core and is awesome.

thank u bro

Thanks!

@Beefy-Tech

11 ай бұрын

You got it fam🤝

One thing I think you forgot to mention is when using manual PBO offset, just like with ryzen master on the 5000/7000 series, is you need to validate clocks using HWInfo or even OCCT to check “effective clocks” match your shown clock speeds. Too extreme of a undervolt with CO, will result in some or all cores not actually running at the clocks it thinks it is. OCCT and HWINFO have this reporting tool for this very reason. This is important because while the system may be stable, you’re losing performance potentially in cores that need more voltage to actually properly boost under load. It’s extremely rare that all core -25 or -30 is actually stable in the case, usually you see your best performing cores wanting more voltage to actually boost high enough in low core utilization scenarios.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I used hardware info to verify stability in OCCT bit I forgot to mention it here not realizing that it could show differently in OCCT. I have run -30 and -25 and I yet to have a crash myself, but I imagine its not like that for most people. I am hopeful that if anyone has issues with it they send me a comment so I can tell them exactly of this 😆👍

@RobertSmith-lh6hg

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech stable != Performant. What he's getting at is that you can be totally stable but not gain performance as it starts clock stretching to maintain stability. Scores are often better with a mild offset than -30 all core, and the cooling solution has an impact on how much offset is tolerable before stretching as the volt/freq curve offset changes based on temp.

@LaoNinja007

Жыл бұрын

So once I get hwinfo, if I set it all to -30, how do I find which core is stretching and boost them? Dunno what I'm doing this, but trying to learn

@Rebrand_Steve

Жыл бұрын

@@LaoNinja007 check for “effective clock” anything bc below your set boost for that Core is a bad UV.

@NeoAemaeth

Жыл бұрын

Where does this info come from that it's "exremely rare" to get stable performance without clock stretching at -30 on all cores with a 5800x3d? I do not have any issues at all.

You don't need to use PBO2 just go into bios and load a saved bios setting from your a USB drive, when you do the OC and PBO will be available to fiddle with, but only until you boot into windows. Any changes you made will be there

@serpentes9818

11 ай бұрын

bios on 3d vcache chips are locked im pretty sure for OC

Thanks for the guide. My motherboard has PBO2 option, do I use this method to find out the numbers and then plug them in on bios instead of applying a scheduler?

Hi, Thank you so much for making an easy to follow tutorial. My apologies if this has been asked many times before, but I just got my 5800X3D and was wondering what's the difference between PBO2 vs manually changing bios setting vs MSI Kombo Strike? and also, which one provides the best performance with the lowest temperature?

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Kombo strike 3 is thought to be an automatic 30 curve offset, but I've seen varying results from it. Pbo2 tuner you can manually input any offset, and it definitely always works and shows benefits, so I recommend it over kombo strike 3.

@MuscleMan38K

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech thank you so much

@gamerdweebentertainment1616

11 ай бұрын

yup use bios if you can, I can't. What a time to be alive you have to research BIOS options now I bought AsRock X570 Steel Legend, changing stuff there manually, no user friendly automatic systems whatsoever, lucky there's even XMP setting.

You can undervolt now in bios,just update them.

Hey Beefy. Just wondering how much you gained in mw2/wz? My Temps are pretty good with my 360mm aio and hitting 4.3hz. Pretty happy with performance paired with my aorus 3070ti but all way looking for more. I’m not the best with computers but have learned how to oc gpu, ram and my other CPU’s. This looks a bit more tricky for me to achieve but if the gains are decent I will give it a go. Thanks for the upload.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

It hits 10-20FPS more depending on which part of the map I'm on, in game I have render worker count set to 8 and the undervolt makes frequencies sit 200-300mhz higher in warzone which uses all the cores.

@qubes8728

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech Tnx beefy. I’ll try it out and get back to you with results. Cheers.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@qubes8728 mind you this only makes a difference if you are cpu bottlenecked. The 4090 I was testing with normally sits at 60-70% usage or less, so it brought it up by 2-5% usage on average resulting in that 10-20fps difference.

@qubes8728

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech Ah ok mate. Im running a 3070ti with the 5800x3D.so pretty sure im gpu bound hehe. tnx beefy.

I bought ryzen 7 5800x3d yesterday and i set all cores to -30 90W/60A/90A and i got 4.45 ghz core clock stability and only get 60°c The cooler that im using is air cooling Noctua NH-D15S

My temps in game are amazing after doing -30 and loweder limits. 50-60c in games and boosted my mhz to 4450 maxed when it was sitting around 4250-4350...

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Exactly the beauty of an undervolt!

Its not changing any settings for me? OCCT isnt showing any changes when i input numbers in PB02

Is it possible to have the limits change at startup as well? It seems i can keep the curve offset automatically with the steps in this tutorial but id have to manually reapply the limits.

LOVE U BROTHER , u help me get 4-5c lower temps and 4450mhz now before is use to get 4300mhz also little fps gain. i have 5800x3d with - 30 all 8 cores and nothing else i dont change any other tdp or other parameter as roit vanguard mess stuff up , so just use -30 all 8 cores and 4lowertemp and 10 watt less energy , i notice my cpu use 1.18 v

Glad i pointed you to this also there is a new bios and you can do CO in the bios now :P Still i have more fps then you at big map im avg. 249fps stable with 169 1% lows @720p 6700xt tested for fun. Your 70 fps drops at rebirth island are strange. Looks like memory oc stutters either to low VSOC voltage / VDDG IOD or to low mem voltage combined with to low tRFC. Im at 149fps 1% lows on rebirth with 219fps avg @720p. 3866cl16 but all sub timings max tuned + 140ns tRFC could do 4000cl16 same timings but to lazy :P Also there is a huge penalty in WZ2 if you have your windows page file turned off. My friend had a problem with crashesh/stutters hes on 32gb ram and i think windows11 turs it off if ur at 32gb. Turning it back on auto resulted in 0 crashes and +20% fps and stutters gone :P

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I mean it could be that something is wrong with my Ram timings, I would have to set to default and run some tests which I'll do. I have not heard of the windows page file before so I will check it out and see if it's on or off.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I bought the 7950x3d which I plan to run on 1 ccd with only 8 cores on warzone to compare to stock performance, and obviously upgrade from 5800x3d. With this occasion I'll reset everything to default and redo my ram timings to see if I made any mistakes 8 months ago when I did initial tuning. It could also be that page file thing with windows 11, but I yet have to test it out. Also, I got a dual pc setup and new mic and will finally be able to record without FPS loss for best representation of results👍

Hello , i did everything like you, my pbo is not starting with windows...and all limits are reseted after i restart pc...can someone help me?

Thanks for this very informative video, it was great. However, it does lead me to a question: the curve / -20 settings start on start up, but what about the PPT, TDC, & EDC settings? I don't believe you went over how to do that on start up. Would be great if you could share or let us know whether or not that's possible.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Yes, at the time I didn't know how to do it, now I do. When you type your command line in task scheduler, right after the negative curve optimizer settings, ud input your limits, and then type a 0 at the end. The line should look as follows: -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 120 75 110 0

@Swaangin

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech Thanks a lot for this, you're a GOAT

@Swaangin

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech Had another question if you didn't mind. When you make the Core's -20 to -30, does that mean we are reducing the frequencies of the cores?

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@Swaangin no not particularly, undervolting isn't just reducing voltages, it makes precision boost overdrive choose the same frequency at a lower voltage. Essentially, it'll run the same frequency at lower voltages, which in turn allows it to run a higher frequency at the same max voltage as before. The 5800x3d caps at 4.45ghz tho so the undervolt doesn't scale past your frequency cap. Thing is once you undervolt too much, the system slowly becomes unable to stably run the same frequency at a lower voltage, and the only time an undervolt can hurt is specifically when its unstable.

With the pbo2 app after testing and everything is stable to keep the cpu at those settings do you just leave the app on and minimize or can you exit and close it ? Thanks for the tutorial!

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

If you do the apply at startup with task scheduler it's essentially minimized constantly, so yes u can just minimize it after you are done to make sure it doesn't unapply the stuff, although it shouldn't unapply it even if you close it entirely.

the cpus are only unstable at idle. then yoou have to tweak based on what core is crashing in event viewer.

I set all to -30 and changed nothing else and received the similar results, just with game memory boost in msi bios

Hi hoping someone still looks at this and can give me advice real quick, before I change anything I want to hear if it's needed because in OCCT my temps are consistent 61C after 10 minutes and 4425Mhz. Should I still do this?

ty u

I have b550 auros pro v1 last bios and I use all cores negative -30 and cpu voltage offset to -60mV and will do even lower but I am on 102blck idk why my r7-5800x3d goes as highest 4.45Ghz on stock and now I made it go 4.54Ghz all cores stable on cinebench r23 multicore run and never drop below 4.54Ghz feels much faster than stock. temp goes 55C on gaming and cinebench r23 multicore 10min run goes max 72C temp. my old r5-5600x was like bit higer on wattage like 30W on max load but was amazing CPU for 4.9Ghz all cores for 2 years before I moved on.

Hey Beefy. Just wondering if RAM oc is worth doing while running the 5800x3D or is it worth oc RAM with this chip? With my b550 I was only able to get minimal gains. Mind you I only increased frequency and voltage, no subtimings, Corsair Dominator 3200 cl16. Have you tried or had luck oc RAM together with 5800x3D? Cheers mate.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

It's minimal gains. I went from a 3600mhz cl20 untuned kit to a 3800 cl14 fully tuned kit and gained like 10 fps in warzone 1 back when I did the upgrade. 5800x3d doesn't benefit as much from fancy ram, but it still helps it a bit.

@qubes8728

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech cheers Beefy i thought was the case

@cocosloan3748

Жыл бұрын

Don't call him Beefy 😒. Like he's one of your buddies from the street ... He's Mr Beefy to you 😎

@anjithkrishna9301

Жыл бұрын

What ram faster ram helps with is the 1% low and .1% lows when gaming. The x3d cache helps this a lot but tighter tuned ram will increase the lows even more. You wont find much improvements in average fps but gameplay will be improved considerably as the lows are better. Best ram for the x3D will be 3600-3800 c14 with tight sub timings and 4000 c14-16 for 1:1 fclk if you are able to achieve it.

@apocalypse3039

Жыл бұрын

It does but the difference is only noticeable in the 1% lows went from 3600CL 16-18-18-36 to 3800 CL 16-16-16-32

Just tried PBO2 Tuning my 5800X3D (mobo - ASUS ROG Strix X570-F Gaming) and had the opposite effect. BIOS is alrady set to 142/95/140 and curve optimiser at -30. Running the OCCT CPU test the temps settle between 89/90.5deg and OCCT says the CPU is running at 4050ghz to 4100ghz all cores. OCCT says PPT/EDC/TDC usage is 118/81/108. Running Cinebench R23 then OCCT says CPU freq is locked in at 4300ghz. PPT/EDC/TDC settled around 112/77/121 I used PBO2 tuner to tweak PPT/EDC/TDC to 110/75/105 and ran Cinebench test again. This time CPU clock dropped to 3.9Ghz which is a 400Mhz loss. I know the 5800X3D is locked in terms of power and temp limits, so you can't really over clock it, but undervolting seems to slow down my CPU. Temps came down as well, but only by about 5deg. I have a Dark Rock Pro 4 cooler, which is supposed to be good enough. (I've tried fresh Thermal paste and made sure it is fitted correctly). Maybe I should grab an AIO water cooler? For me the results of undervolting were a small Temp reduction but also a 10% drop is CPU clock speed. I'm not sure what I need to do differently. My Mobo (ASUS ROG Strix X570-F Gaming) has a load of power settings I can mess with but I'm pretty sure I've got mine set to something reasonable.

I ended up doing -30 and 95/80/100. I was wondering about your settings for CPPC, CPPC preferred core and C-state? Mine are on Auto, is that ok ?

This stabilized my frames and temps! One doubt tho, I set it scheduled to -30 but when I open it sets automatically to 0, what could be the issue?

How do you add the limits into the arguments? This only sets the offsets if you boot it up, right? It's not explained in the written format either.

How come my CPU temperatures increase when I set an under volt compared to stock settings?

i get -30 but it refuses to boost past 4040mhz (regardless of what offset i'm using or non) and thats sitting on 59 degrees running cinabench, so weird. (power plan is maximum performance)

I managed to set all cores to -30 on my own 5800x3d processor. However, I have to re-enter ppt tdc and edc every time I turn on the computer. I think I could not succeed in this part, please help.

Thanks for the video, my 5900X can boost to 4950mhz max When I do -30 (which has been stable all day) I check OCCT and average frequencies are 4775mhz, does this mean I'm missing out on Single core speed by doing this? Reducing temps I like, but I prefer to keep my single core speed boost also.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

On a 5900x you would lose a small amount of performance when undervolting yes. It will not be incredibly significant in a game though.

I have set PPT=120 TDC=75 EDC=115 the curve at -30 cinebench is hitting 79.8c, and lowering EDC and/or SoC VDD actually increases temps by 4c. I'm using NH-D14 so I don't know why I can't get any lower temps.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

If temps get hard stuck, most likely your cpu thermal paste application wasn't done right, or cooler isn't making contact with cpu and paste properly. I recommend you take a look at that

@GH1987

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech repasted and the screws are bottoming out, either the bottom of the cooler and/or the IHS are similar in shape thus not contacting fully :/

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@GH1987 it's possible for it to be a contact issue, but hard to tell, I'd say worth considering a cooler change to an All in one liquid cooler to lower temps significantly.

Isnt it better to do this in the motherboard bios? Isnt it like a more permanent thing than letting the Windows boot and only then it will change the cpu settings?

Did not work for me at first. Apparently when you have "fast boot" enabled in BIOS the system doesn't shut down completely, so no cold boot and it won't trigger. What worked for me was setting the trigger to "At log on" instead of "At start up" ...maybe that helps someone who's struggling with this.

My limits don't save once I boot my pc up and have to readd my limits everytime. Does anyone know how to fix?

Any luck getting your infinity fabric to 2000mhz? I think there needs to be a voltage bump somewhere to stabilize it, and undervolting somewhere else to bring the thermals down.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

You cab stabilize it to a certain degree... but it's not very consistent on my side. For example cod runs, but it shows a Whea error 2 mins into OCCT. You can change some voltages and Power limits but generally the lower voltage a 5800x3d can run at, the more stable it runs, so 1900mhz+3800mhz ram is far more consistent overall.

@SwirlingDragonMist

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech oh sweet, my ram’s XMP is 4000, I dialed it back to 3600 as my efforts to run my infinity fabric above 1800 have all failed, and I think I’m doing wise by running in coupled mode, even though I’m running my ram slower than it can go. My motherboard is top of the line with tons of cutting edge server grade VRM’s so I would think it should be able to squeak a bit more stability out of the 5800x3D. But after crashes at even 1900 I decided to pair down to 1800 until I get some guidance. As this is all new to me. I got 4000 memory knowing the infinity fabric was capped at 2000mhz and I wanted to max it out, so I’m very interested in how I might be able to make it work. My CPU cooler is a monster so there must be a way.

hello man! i just wanted to ask have u experimented with kombo strike 3 and if u got it enabled did u have pbo tuner undervolt also or just one of the 2 ??

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I have and just using PBO2 tuner is significantly more consistent. Undervolting with pbo is 110% the way🥨

@BAG97

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech thank you very much man!

Can you program TTC EDC etc at boot up also, like create a new action where you write -30 instead you write TTC 110 let's say ?

I'd love to know how you got those temps. I've done pbo2 tuner -30 uv and all it did was reduce temps by 6-7°C and im using a 360mm AIO kraken.

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

My Temps were at most reduced by 5c when limits are applied with a -25 offset with 360mm cooler master aio. 5800x3d's vary quiet a lot in efficiency, so there'll be quiet big temp differences between cpu's regardless.

@mesicek7

Жыл бұрын

@@Beefy-Tech I mean how are you even getting those temps at stock settings? Every reviewer got over 75°C under load. What are your temps in cinebench or if you encode a video in handbrake?

@Beefy-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@mesicek7 OCCT is not as heavy as other benchmarks, it's more representative of an ingame all core workload. In cinebench R23 I'm pretty sure it hovers in the mid 70s (75c-78c) with UV enabled.

1. The lower PPT TDC and EDC, the lower the temperature? 2. The lower the PPT TDC and EDC, the less performance/ghz?

Help me PLEASE : PBO settings changed (getting defound values) when waking up from sleep/hibernation . Anyone how to fix?