The Outcasts weren’t introduced with DLC, they were in the vanilla game, based at Fort Independance where you could trade tech for ammo & healing supplies, as well as run into their patrols all over the wasteland. Lyons also directly mentions them (and viceversa) as well as some other BoS members.

@roryscott2941

2 жыл бұрын

I wish they were called the Orthodox or True Order BoS rather than Outcast.

@ZeonicFenrir

2 жыл бұрын

@@roryscott2941 I guess they could have gone with that too, but I do like the fact that they went with "Outcasts" as a way to mock Lyons. I do would have liked to see a larger contrast between the two groups, which we see to small degree with BoS having some initates using combat armor and the Outcasts using robots to supplement their lack of renewable manpower. Perhaps make that difference more significant in some ways: -Give T-51b PA only to Lyons Pride among the BoS, the rest using T-45d and combat armor, while all Outcasts use PA and T-51b be a common sight among their ranks. -Like the above, give Lyons Pride advanced weapons, maybe not just laser pistols/rifles, but even plasma and gatling laser, while the regular forces continue sticking to more accessible weapons like R91 rifles. In contrast, all Outcasts have advanced weapons, essentially a case of "we have more (energy) guns than soldiers that can use them". -Have BoS troops be larger in numbers but include more non-PA soldiers among them. -Make Outcasts groups of 1 human soldier and two robots a more common sight. -Possibly remove the few robots we see in the Citadel, but definitely add robot security/workers to Fort Independence and other Outcast controlled locations, like the small Outcast Outpost next to the raider controlled Satcom array. And this is not to mention making armed conflicts between both groups a more common occurrence, even if mainly through random events, though possible also through making more Outcast patrol routes run by areas guarded by BoS troops. Lastly, and mostly in case we ever get a FO· remaster/remake, take a page from NV and FO4 and go with a faction approach for finishing the game, which in the case of an Outcast route could lead to a siege and eventual takeover of the Citadel, concluding with the execution of Elder Lyons by firing squad (something which Protector Casdin even brings up when talking about Lyons).

@roryscott2941

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZeonicFenrir Wow! Those are great ideas! I especially like the siege and firing squad ending. It would be great trying to feel out the ranks of Mainline BoS for the dissatisfied for the Outcasts or vice versa hunting down internal conspirators for Lyons like 'Seven Days in May'

@kennethmiller81

2 жыл бұрын

He may have meant introduced as a major faction and now introduced into the game entirely, just a theory

@planescaped

2 жыл бұрын

It really is peculiar the number of things he tends to miss or mess up considering he has a channel pretty much devoted to the series...

Honestly I just wish they'd give us 76 as an offline singleplayer when they finally decided to pull the plug. I think it can definitely stand on its own and I really want to love it but all the horrible server connections and the really grindy slow progression nature of the game because they want to reel people into the Atom shop just keep me from having any real fun

@TestECull

2 жыл бұрын

76 was a mistake. It should never have even been made.

@____________838

2 жыл бұрын

Same.

@zedorda1337

2 жыл бұрын

They already did. Plus there is a mod to let you play offline also.

@Lance-The-BoS-Lancer

2 жыл бұрын

the '76-ers

@rifleshooterchannel208

2 жыл бұрын

@@zedorda1337 I don't know about any kind of mod but if "They" is Bethesda, no, they didn't do anything that allows you to play 76 offline.

Finally someone who else believes that the ambient music in 76 is the best in the series it’s so good I noticed it in the background of video

@kazuhiramiller7945

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree Fallout 2 and 1 have some of the best ambient music in the series I still listen to Vats of goo and My chrysalis highwayman on repeat outside of playing fallout.

@alternax9751

Жыл бұрын

I agree, fallout 4 ambient music is VERY obvious that it looped or changed, but fallout 76 has crisp sound.

@juliamccoll5732

Жыл бұрын

I listen to it in 76 too! I choose it over the radio. It's great. 😁

@eromstalin6701

10 ай бұрын

radking said i have to treat your kind well@@kazuhiramiller7945

Excavator Power Armor also makes sense to exist. Tanks were based on tractor designs, so it's totally plausible that some companies went to the manufacturers and were like "Hey, can you build us some 'Civilian Grade' versions of this armor because they look useful to our mining business?"

@____________838

2 жыл бұрын

See also: AR-15 rifles…

@raziyatheseeker

2 жыл бұрын

Considering non-military applications for prototype powered exoskeletons (or that one thing Ripley operated in Aliens), civilian power armor for industry would make a lot if sense. Hell, I had no idea tanks were based on tractors till now!

@christopherconard2831

2 жыл бұрын

@@raziyatheseeker Check out the Semple tank. It's a piece of construction equipment with corrugated steel bolted on. The tank equivalent of Raider Armor.

@brotherhoodofsteel4751

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@nerbs_the_word

2 жыл бұрын

I mean so many military technologies entered the civilian market after they exited the "classified" or "too expensive for people outside the government to afford" stage. RADAR, resperation equipment, super glue and duct tape, submarines, personal computers, catterpillar tracks and so many other things.

The attitude of the BoS in the capital wasteland always seemed logical to me, The BoS are descendants of the former US military and being in the original HQ and surrounded by the monuments of their past would be a stark reminder of their ancestors failure to protect the US public both before and after the great war, leading to a softening of attitude, and of course being a cult the split was also inevitable so personally i think they did a great Job in fallout 3.

@visassess8607

Жыл бұрын

I thought the Enclave were direct descendants of the US government and the BoS were just some independent faction that popped up after the war

@bluetalon704

Жыл бұрын

@@visassess8607 My understanding is that the Enclave were a shadow government within the structure who eventually managed to gain control and then via an internal coup took over the US government before the war, however I believe that were a very small number of people within the power structure so while they did have access to official bunkers and the treasury for building their bases they was not representative of the actual government they were basically autonomous, I think this is reflected from the fact that you can find many bunkers including the presidential bunker in the game that were abandoned or died out after the conflict. The BOS definitely did not exist pre war they were however formed over time from the military units that survived in bunkers and other less hit locations before solidifying into the faction we see in the game, at some point maybe it was easier it’s decided that the preservation of technology is their primary goal but as seen they do defend civilians when its in their interests to do so, unlike the enclave who kill anyone that comes near them or interferes with their goals. The faction of the BOS you meet in fallout 3 has been cut off from their main forces for a while by the time the lone wanderer meets them so they have softened somewhat to the local’s plight hence the assisting with project purity and in the fight against the enclave and I think that being in a museum of their former glory had a profound impact on elder lyons.

@salemnights

8 ай бұрын

​@@visassess8607 Some time passed, but maybe someone browsing the comments will find it useful: BoS was founded by Roger Maxson, who was a captain in the US Army and saw first-hand the destruction caused by the Great War. Therefore yes, they are somewhat descendants of the US military, but not really 'official', rather just formed by it's members, unlike Enclave that has pretty clear ties with the pre-war government

My BIGGEST issue with 76 was with the fact that it was multi player only. I prefer to play alone. Its part of why i liked Fallout 4 and prior so much.

Honestly? You've made a good case for the east-coast brotherhood. I still think they resemble the Followers moreso than the Brotherhood, but you do make a very good point regardless. Also, the Outcast's weren't introduced in the DLC, they were already a minor faction in the base game.

@Spongebrain97

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I really dont mind Lyon's Brotherhood being a morally good faction because it is very realistic. By the time he left California, it had mostly become tame under the NCR but he sees the Capital Wasteland extremely chaotic with super mutants being more violent and slavery being widespread. And he couldn't easily get reinforcements from back home to obviously he would lossen up on the BOS philosophy when it came to outsiders and especially to children who were simply born into the Wasteland and could be raised by the BOS, which proved to be successful. Also the fact that many of Lyon's members are skeptical of his decisions and the Outcasts exist show that this clearly wasn't a smooth transition

@That1Outlander

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention the outcasts, they exist its in vanilla game with casdin but defender morrils crew were Introduced for the "fort" or rather the outcast outpost

@edgy22

2 жыл бұрын

Wiggins OMEGALUL

@hushthecipher

2 жыл бұрын

Y'all always be Slippin Jimmy

Brotherhood Outcasts weren't added in a dlc pack, they already existed in the base game o0

@briansebor

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this. They’re even the framing device for Operation Anchorage, which came out before Broken Steel

@kennethmiller81

2 жыл бұрын

He may mean as a major faction and not to the game entirety

You know whats funny, in Chris Avalone's new falout bible, the Fallout Apocrypha, he agrees with several of your points.

@falloutdetroit8884

2 жыл бұрын

woah pig watches RadKing, time to start stalking pig lmao how you doin?

@grimnir7749

2 жыл бұрын

There's a reply here but it's hidden...

@kotzpenner

2 жыл бұрын

Just checked it out, it's funny how a new one came out just now! I do wonder about the opinion of Fallout 4 though lol

@Pigness7

2 жыл бұрын

@@kotzpenner he got stuck and hasn't gotten back to it

@StoneAgeWarfare

2 жыл бұрын

What I find odd is that Chris declared the Fallout bible nor Apocrypha to be canon in his blog. It's likely due to Bethesda having the rights to the franchise, but odd nonetheless.

That Linkin Park example is spot on. Hybrid Theory and Meteora were my shit in elementary and high school. I was hyped as fuck for Minutes to Midnight, bought it the day it came out, and spent the next few months trying to convince myself that I liked it.

@maverickslastoddworld6476

2 жыл бұрын

Same lol

@FurrySpatula

Жыл бұрын

Exactly so leave us almost 40 year olds who love FO 1 and 2 alone already you damn zoomers. And while you're at it, get off my lawn

@TheCynicalAutist

Жыл бұрын

@@FurrySpatula The only boomers I respect are the NV ones.

@Dibbo_

Жыл бұрын

Bleed it out was good but the rest never really went with me

@RainCloudVideos

Жыл бұрын

That album is great wtf. Shadow of the day, what I’ve done, leave out all the rest, etc. are all classics.

*Watches the whole video* : Yeah, I see where he’s coming from and I agree with some of this. *Puts Mr. New Vegas under Travis as radio DJ*: “Kill him. Kill him now.”

@gerald1495

2 жыл бұрын

Mr New Vegas had 0 personality to be fair

@the10ofdiamondscard

Жыл бұрын

@@gerald1495 me when the ai designed to be a propaganda machine has no personality 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

@gerald1495

Жыл бұрын

@@the10ofdiamondscard point is he's boring as hell

@mr.calladore1538

Жыл бұрын

​@Roberto The Super Mutant as true as that is, Travis is just outright annoying and at times a little bit irritating

@davidos8760

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.calladore1538 he is endearing and funny and can be changed if wanted with a quest in the bar in Diamond City so your critique is mute

My hot take is that all the protagonists from all the games should have come together and opened a gentleman’s club in the wasteland called the buttered biscuit. I think that would add some much needed depth to the lore.

@mirceazaharia2094

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic idea in principle. However, that would require them to not have canonically been on opposite sides during their respective careers (Fallout 2 protag blows up the Enclave Oil Rig, but Fallout 3 protag can side with the Enclave over the Brotherhood and take over Project Purity in the Capitol Wasteland for them). The Fallout 1 protag lived in a time period when mere decades had passed since the Great War. The Fallout 2 protag is an Arroyo native and descendant of the Fallout 1 protagonist. Fallout 3 MC's father is a wastelander which immigrated to Vault what's-his-name, had a kid over there, his wife dies in childbirth, he leaves the Vault eventually or is banished by the Overseer, and his child grows up inside the Vault, some 200 years after the bombs had fallen. New Vegas protagonist is a wastelander, a courier doing a delivery for a mad lad genius pre-war entrepreneur, who kept himself alive (sort of) all the way from before the Great War and now rules the city state of New Vegas. New Vegas protag is born at least a century and a half, or thereabouts, after the Great War was over. The various protagonists are not only separated by space and time, date of birth, origin and general roaming area, but by likely ideologies as well. A protagonist who sided with Caesar's Legion in New Vegas won't have much in common with the one who blew up the Enclave Oil Rig, or the one who helped the Knights of the Steel Brotherhood secure safe, clean drinking water for the residents of the Capitol Wasteland. Not to mention the Fallout 4 protag, who's mostly stuck in the Boston area, and the Fallout 76 main character, who emerges from the safety of a Vault mere years (I think) after the Great War, when the mutants are emerging, and there are still buildings worth a damn standing. Not a Fallout veteran or even much of a fan, but I really like the series, the lore, and know a little bit about the general chronology.

@ianm9817

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirceazaharia2094 I like to think that the buttered biscuit could over come all of those ideological differences. You are right about the difference in times however. I envision a club that last generation. Perhaps it is started by the main character in fallout 76 then is turned over to the vault dweller. After which it is handed over to his son. I’m the Final years of the chosen one’s life he meets the loan wanderer and passes the club over the him. Next the Courier carries the idea far out east to the Commonwealth. Where the sole survivor builds a new home for the biscuit. People for years have looked for a thread that connects all the protagonist, well I believe I found that thread and it is the buttered biscuit.

@danthekangaman

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirceazaharia2094 correct, the dwellers in 76 emerge 25 years after the great war

@raziyatheseeker

2 жыл бұрын

I would adore that as an old-school-style special encounter. That sounds great.

@kvant13

2 жыл бұрын

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It doesn't matter if you don't love mr new Vegas, because out there the there's somebody that loves you. And that somebody is him.

@AdminAbuse

4 ай бұрын

What

I prefer the original fallouts style, (even though the games are older than I am) However, I understand that the original style isn't coming back and have came to accept that fact.

@i_like_lasagna3208

2 жыл бұрын

If you haven't already you should play a game called arcanum it's like the old fallout games

@tylernilson7021

2 жыл бұрын

@@i_like_lasagna3208 wasteland 2 and 3 are much closer

@i_like_lasagna3208

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylernilson7021 yeah ik but most people already knows about wasteland so I was mentioning a game that they might not have heard of yet

@tylernilson7021

2 жыл бұрын

@@i_like_lasagna3208 i get paid in pizza to bring it up

@marlowbob6795

2 жыл бұрын

"I understand that the original", well Bethesda will never, there still game made in that style, you should look up Underail

I haven't played Fallout 76, but I always have appreciated the creatures since the early trailers. Having an emphasis on cryptids and folklore, as well as the more simple creatures like the frogs. I also didn't know how good 76's ambient music is. I'm glad I now know.

Something I love about Fallout 76, is the addition of Plans. What bothered me about 4 is that the Sole Survivor knows EVERYTHING, every plan, every component needed. It just felt so bizarre- Like knowing every mod for X-o1! But the addition of plans, recipes, and learning via scrap feels realistic and more like a learning experience! Like how in Fallout 3 there was craftable weapons after finding blueprints! Yet they remove it from NV and 4???? (Also, 100% agree with East Coast!) (Also also- I think that "Too official" thing about Mr New Vegas, is because he's voiced by the irl radio host, Mr Las Vegas!)

@BigBadBuzzPlaysMC

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple weapon/ammo schematics in NV, .44 magnum hand load, dog tag fist, powder charge, and the K9000 FIDO in Old World Blues

@____________838

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigBadBuzzPlaysMC That’s a holdover from the Custom Weapons of FO3, right?

@BigBadBuzzPlaysMC

2 жыл бұрын

@@____________838 i'm not sure sorry

@IcepersonYT

Жыл бұрын

@@____________838 pretty much, it’s the same system. I think given more dev time they probably would have ported the F:3 weapons back in or added new ones to give it more depth but they didn’t really have time.

@alnu8355

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot to like about 76. I played it years after launch. It feels like the better version of Fallout 4. 1. If you have a companion in the game (another player) they are by default more competent than any of those insufferable NPC companions. 2. You don't usually have to deal with their insufferably angsty backstory. 3. There is an actual point to building these large impressive structures as you can now invite friends inside. 4. It has the most varied environment of any Fallout game. You got greens, you got urban blight, you got toxic Wastelands, you got Forrest, etc. 5. Compared to most other MMORPGS I have played it does not feel tedious nor grindy. 6. As far as FPS Fallouts go, its RPG elements are nice and tight and the best out FPS Fallouts. Not too much, not too little, easy enough to switch builds, enough variety to make a difference and specialize in a role. 7. Probably the best difference, as soon as they added NPCs, they junked that awful dialog system from 4. Now it's just a simple readable dialog tree. Not this bastardized "Mass Effect but shitty" system that comes off more as Tumblr Fan Fiction doing it's damn hardest to emulate Joss Weadon Snark. Not really new to RPGs but feels much better after witnessing 4's cringe. All and all I like it. And if anyone thinks it's the lowest point of Fallout has clearly never read Interplay/Black Isle's script for a movie based on Fallout One.

I think 3D recreations of FO1 and FO2 *could* be done. But with a lot of caveats. - You would have to blend some MMO techniques in with a single player game. -- You would have to scale the game map down to reduce the amount of empty space between main quest hubs. -- You would have to rely on a *lot* of ambient storytelling techniques to fill in the empty spaces of the map with ruins, minor factions, etc that don't interfere with the main story beats of the games. Potentially a minefield of lore breaks and retcons. --- Adding these ruins would have to include some loot to make it worth going to them, which would throw off the economy of the original games. Ammo and weapons would be a lot less scarce. Power armor would be less scarce. Could upset the balance of the game. - Companions would have to be completely retooled. There are pros and cons here. Mostly pros in the case of FO1. The companion system in FO1 was *horrible*. - Dialog would be limited to existing audio in the cases of some characters like the Lieutenant from FO1 since Tony Jay passed a while ago. - You would have to scrap the "tell me about" system completely. I doubt many would notice or mourn its passing. - Combat would be retooled completely so it would be less reliant on "save scumming". On one hand, less annoying. On the other hand, deathclaws and super mutants would absolutely have to be rebalanced as an unlucky crit would be an instant reload. That would make the game feel a lot less dangerous. - There are a *lot* of characters in FO1 and FO2 who are not voiced at all. The end result could be a game with Morrowind style dialog in a prettier engine. Or a big budget for voice acting. - Radiation worked a lot differently in FO1 than it did in FO3 onward. I remember my first time going to the Glow. I went without rad-x and radaway. Dumb. I didn't even go down into the hole because I also didn't have a rope. (This was 1998. I barely had Internet, let alone game guides.) I was dead and didn't even know it until I died from radiation sickness on the way back to the Hub. 3D Bethesda radiation damage would be an instant death and reload. Different, but possibly workable. So *could* it be done? Yes. *Should* it be done? Probably not. A good compromise would be a faithful remake in a 3D engine, but still a turn based isometric RPG. The same game, but with better graphics and maybe a few QoL improvements to the companion system. But would it sell?

@cosmosyn2514

Жыл бұрын

it'd sell to nostalgic fans and a niche audience, but it would likely not be seen as a worthy investment for bethesda, but would make sense for a smaller indie dev.

Yeah also, the reason the T- 60 likes like the T- 45 is that originally, they were redesigning the 45 but were like, “This looks a bit to different, eh let’s make it a new kind” (Learned that from “The Art of Fallout 4”, epic book)

@vonfaustien3957

Жыл бұрын

Should have been a post war refit of the east coasts T45s using salavged enclave tech not rammed in as prewar.

I would consider being kinder to the OG Fallout fans if they were willing to do the same to Bethesda Fallout fans.

@yaldabaoth2

Жыл бұрын

Never. These two things will never be the same thing. Bethesda does not understand the original fallout and has twisted it into something else. And honestly, that is fine. The problem is people trying to bend it so it "just works". Everything breaks instead. There is no brotherhood of steel on the east coast, there is not enclave on the east coast, Harold did not cross the continent and turn into a tree, nor should there be super mutants and they definitely should not be fighting battles for over a century in one street in one city. These are just things straight up lifted from the old games because Bethesda is an intellectually bankrupt company. They could have just renamed them and made their looks a bit different, but no, theft it was.

@futurewario9591

Жыл бұрын

@@yaldabaoth2 Without Fallout 3 there would be no Fallout New Vegas.

@user-vj1db6sy7l

8 ай бұрын

@@yaldabaoth2bro what? They bought out obsidian for the rights to the fallout franchise? Yes the lore may have some plot holes but they did not steal anything

But where does trapped Father Elijah fit into your DJ power ranking?

@Phirnyne

2 жыл бұрын

manic ex-elder radio - ramblings to backstab/loot to

@empirednw6624

9 ай бұрын

Funny lol

Gratz on 50k! I always liked the former NYC mayor's quote on agreement: "If you agree with me on 9 out of 12 issues, vote for me. If you agree with me on 12 out of 12 issues, see a psychiatrist." - Ed Koch

As someone who grew up absolutely adoring assassins creed, point two really relates to me. While I don’t think the shift of fallout has been near as drastic as AC, the feeling of watching something you hold near and dear being slowly chipped away until you’re left with an unrecognizable game that’s praised by the masses is really hard. There’s still traces of what once was, sure, the hood, the blade, the symbol, but it always feels like it’s a second thought, added on to make it look like it deserves the franchise name. So yeah, they definitely don’t deserve all the hate they get.

@EvilParagon4

Жыл бұрын

The really big difference here is that Original Fallout is sort of outdated, any isometric heavy-RPG wasteland game these days would be nostalgia chasing rather than a genuine attempt at making a fun game. There will always be a nostalgia element to making such a game, it wouldn't be a "Hey let's make a game in that style", it'd be "Hey what did Fallout 1 and 2 do right so we can make our game good?" Now original Assassin's Creed, that still has legs. Urban-environment Historic-setting Parkour Action _Not_-RPG is still a generally modern gaming idea. The only element here that's a bit outdated is Parkour that was really a big 2010 thing, but is generally considered a staple of the franchise that should not have been dumbed down, even in the modern games. Ubisoft would be perfectly capable of making an AC game like those from before, _but they won't,_ because this new RPG take on the franchise makes far more money. New fans of the series are actively hurting old fans' chances of getting an older style game. Fallout will never get a genuine old-style game without it just being nostalgia bait. Assassin's Creed could always feasibly return to its older style without being nostalgia bait, but each passing year and each successful RPG entry crushes that. Though, to go against everything I've said, there are rumours of an isometric Fallout game possibly being made by InExile which would be the original creators of the franchise, and AC of course has Mirage coming which is implied to be old style though could always just be an RPG take on the old style and be meaningless. But, we could see a return of both old styles of game, and only time will tell if they are truly nostalgia bait or genuine attempts at making those older style games.

@cosmosyn2514

Жыл бұрын

​@@EvilParagon4 If strictly speaking about wasteland (franchise and theme) games, then yeah your statement certainly has truth. but the style of game (isometric, turn based, RPG) would still have a genuine audience. but considering the audience that likes that type of game hasn't shrunk, and only became a minority as gamers increased, and about a third of the US population is too young to have played the first fallout game around when it released, I have no doubt that eventually people will be making turn based RPGs set in wastelands for the sake of it.

I agree with you about Lyons' chapter being a refreshing break from the BOS and that it was a logical movement for someone in his shoes to do. Let's face it, the OG BOS are a bunch of (insert swear here). In FO1 they send you off to more then likely lethal rad zone for a holotape that would confirm what they've already guessed. Elder Lyons' group made what was a power up pick up quest faction (FO1 and FO2, do the thing, prove your worth like your Link from LOZ gain a boost to your boomerang or learn a new song for your ocarina) into a group worth working for. I was so happy to join Danse when he offered me a slot in the BOS in FO4, and CRUSHED that I wouldn't be taking orders from Sarah Lyons when the Pridwen showed up. I was SO hoping for a chance to earn my way into the Lyons's Pride. :(

@redline841

Жыл бұрын

For me, I wish there was more done with the Outcasts and Lyons to try and console them. I do like how they broke off so much because they are basically on the other side of the country. Besides, since it is 200 years after the bombs fell, many Elders that have their own chapters will want to take their own path. Ironically look at what happened to Father Elijah.

@quagmoe7879

Жыл бұрын

That’s not the real Brotherhood. Sounds like you’re more of a Follower of the Apocalypse type, Weenie Hut Junior is across the street.

I absolutely love Mr. New Vegas. But my man Three Dog is on his own level AWOOOOOOO!

minor thing: outcasts were in fo3 before broken steel was added.

These feel a lot less like hot takes and more like stuff the fallout community really needs to hear

I think an AI like Mr. New Vegas being professional isn't a problem. The problem is that we should be reminded often he is a machine to counter his character

I'm glad you can recognize that pieces of Fallout 76 can be good, it feels good to hear it from someone well respected in the community. I really enjoy the game with friends now, it wasn't much fun at launch but came to become one of the only MMO's I care about.

I actually feel a lot of these takes, especially defending 76's design and the Brotherhood of Steel in 3. 76 is in no ways perfect or my favorite Fallout game, but it's environment direction and diversity is a great step and I would like to see some expansion on biodiversity or even creature behaviors for the AI (running my custom TTRPG and deciding how creatures behave has been fun). 3 is also my favorite Fallout game (with my favorite radio host) and having a game that takes the Brotherhood in a different direction is great, though I would have liked some expansion on their anti-ghoul sentiments mentioned by the Underworld ghouls and a bit more friction in the pre-Enclave sections of the game between the Brotherhood and populace since they were still rather insular despite the good they were doing.

The ambient music in 76 is so nice. Even the fight music that scares you a little bit when you can’t see who’s attacking. So good.

The Witcher 3 covers multiple countries so maybe a remake could work like in that game. You could fast travel between the different locations like in the original and still have random encounters.

"and those who I've played 76 with" *pulls shirt collar* in all seriousness I should get on more

Love the content man, you are one of the best fallout content creators out there! Keep up the fantastic work, keep grinding king!

Congratulates on 50K subs! I first started watching you when I saw your video on the chems of Fallout! I was eating a cheeseburger and fries and decided I wanted to watch a Fallout video and I watched yours! Thanks for all the cool lore info and to tell us all the wacky facts in this game series!

I quite agreed with every point you made. From the diversity of the brotherhood to the weird power armor lore and even to Travis being the best awkward dj. Congratulations on your 50k mile stone, I hope you continue with your work and may ATOM bless thee with his Glow. May the water you find in the desert shine at you in the dark

Atom’s blessings upon you for the 50k subs.

It’s been such a pleasure seeing this channel grow. Can’t wait to see what the future holds!

I am so happy someone like you is on YT as a Fallout CC, it was stale with the cigar breath, whiskey stained fedora being the only like in-depth lore person for a while.

@AfterMarketTrike66

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry also for the double comment that doesn’t relate to the original one I posted, but I fell like maybe the just cause of all the mountains around the setting of 76 the center of the map is semi untouched because it’s a valley region

This was actually very tame lol. I thought it would've included something like "New Vegas isn't as good as people think"

@RiderOftheNorth1968

Жыл бұрын

Yeah for that is a fact. People simps so hard over FANV but they have missed the depth of FA3. Sheeps.

@georgeoldsterd8994

Жыл бұрын

Which is it.

Congratulations on the milestone, my dude!

Big congratulations!!! Loved how fun this video was. So proud to watch you grow and improve over time. Glory be and best of luck to your future!!

Congrats on 50k subscribers. Love your content man.

Congrats,im surprised you didnt have more Subs.Your content is top notch man.Good luck moving forward.

Have to agree with all these, so twinning on these points, but each of them are certainly 'controversial' to a portion of the fanbase. Even as someone who would be considered a 76 apologist (cuz I love it even if some things could be better) the 3-4 things you describe are at or near the top of my list as well. Perhaps coming into the series with Fallout 3 while wanting to see where it came from, is part of what gives us this perspective? Anyway congrats on 50k and some really enjoyable vids along the way! I watch a lot of your long-form content and find it really interesting and well thought out.

From my perspective Lyons may have not really diverted from the original goals of the Brotherhood, considering that pacifying the Capital Wasteland would have made the search & discovery of Technology much easier. It may have even motivated the local population to aid the Brotherhood in this in the long run. Be it out of gratitude, or in return for rewards in form of caps or trade.

@rayvenkman2087

Жыл бұрын

This. Compared to how the BoS are in New Vegas, Elder Lyons’ approach netted more results and gain influence without pissing off as many locals as they would have had they gone in like the other chapter.

ive been here since about the 3k mark. love seeing your channel grow! heres to 100k!

Congratulations!!!!! I've been here for a while love your videos

I've never disrespected OG fans and understand where they're coming from when they don't like modern Fallout games but there are also people who are fans of the original games and NV but completely crap on Bethesda fans. I once said that I couldn't play the original Fallout games because I can't afford a PC and a bunch of people either accused me of "being afraid to try new things" or said that I don't deserve to be a gamer or whatever. And a lot of NV fans break the rule of "don't bring your political beliefs into video games" and will insult your intelligence just because you don't like the game. In short, the Fallout fandom is 90% of people arguing over the old games vs the new games, 8% people playing political horoscopes, 1% is Fallout KZreadrs getting into drama, and 1% is everyone else just trying to enjoy the series as peacefully as they can.

@yens1609

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't fnv the most political game out of the bunch? Never seen anyone argue against politics in the fallout community tbh but maybe I'm just not that perceptive lol

@i_will_not_elaborate

2 жыл бұрын

@@yens1609 it is a bit political and I have no problem with games or other forms of media using politics in their stories as long as it's done in a subtle way. However, a lot of Fallout fans often misunderstand what Fallout is about and from there, it turns into a sh💩t show. I also usually explore all sides of the fandom so that's probably why I see this more often than others, so if you say you've never seen part of the fandom, trust me when I say you're better off not knowing.

@Lance-The-BoS-Lancer

2 жыл бұрын

@@yens1609 yes, but it's also not very mich more political than others, all fallout games are critiques of the society it was made for, ideological arguments are in all the games.

@rifleshooterchannel208

2 жыл бұрын

@@i_will_not_elaborate NV is about as "political" as Pac Man.

@brotherhoodofsteel4751

2 жыл бұрын

Personally while I've enjoyed New Vegas I find it hard to play I like a lot of the mods and the fan made quests and such but vanilla New Vegas is just hard for me to get into.

Thank you Rad Dad. This was fanTASTIC background for something I have been putting off for like, a year now. I have finally finished modding a 20 year old game to suit my preferences

I largely agree with you even though I played FO1 and FO2, extensively, in my mid-20s. The first two games were a wonderful homage to the original Wasteland games in the 1980s but brought such a wealth of their own worldbuilding and content that I feel that Fallout is arguably the better game. Yes, Bethesda's Fallout 3 was a significant departure from OG Fallout, but I loved it so much that I put well over a thousand hours into it. The subsequent games received even more of my attention.

@alnu8355

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I feel OG Fallout Fans should move on to titles like Wastelands 2 and 3. 3 just might be the best RPG I have ever played. There are consequences for your actions and the game ain't going to give you a perfect ending in a bleak post apocolyptic world. That game is so good it gives New Vegas a run for it's money in quality and writing. It's everything a Wastelands, Fallout 1, 2, and Tactics fan could ever want from a game. Hits that perfect sweet spot of weird, hilarious, and desperate that 1 and New Vegas had. It's soundtrack is also pretty sweet.

@mprojekt72

Жыл бұрын

@@alnu8355 Dunno about other people but I pretty much did what you suggested, leaping onto the crowdfunding campaign like a starving tick on to a blood bloated person balloon. Playing the illegitimate love child of Wasteland and Fallout 1 was fun, but that's just me.

@alnu8355

Жыл бұрын

@mprojekt72 Another good game stylized after Old School Fallout, that I immensely enjoy is Underrail (not to be confused with Undertale). Post Ecological and Nuclear Catasrophe that puts all of humanity underground navigating a massive railway system. Really fun and Old school. Isometric View, turn based combat, variety of combat options and possibly my favorite addition...psychic powers! Actually no wait, my favorite part is the option to export and import your character so you don't always have to start from level one.

@mprojekt72

Жыл бұрын

@@alnu8355 O'Rlyeh? Thank you for the recommendation! I see that the UnderRail devs are still communicating with players. Nice! Money thrown their way and game DL'd.

Personally, my favorite DJ was Three-Dog and I feel it was kinda all downhill from there. Mr. New Vegas and Travis just didn't do it for me the same way Three-Dog did.

@Vicus_of_Utrecht

Жыл бұрын

Only because he was voiced by a black guy. Be honest bro

@tylerleach1833

Жыл бұрын

@@Vicus_of_Utrecht wow...racist. Like seriously, assuming Three-Dog is only my favorite DJ because he's black. Up yours, dude.

@Vicus_of_Utrecht

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerleach1833 To be racist one would regard their own race superior to all others. I hold a single particular race inferior than all others. I follow what the evidence shows. Also *yawn* on the 'racist' label; as if that fucking means shit.

@tylerleach1833

Жыл бұрын

@@Vicus_of_Utrecht The only evidence that's shown is evidence that I just like Three Dog better. Nothing more.

@tylerleach1833

Жыл бұрын

@@Vicus_of_Utrecht like seriously, the hell is even your problem with me liking Three Dog best?

I didn't have a computer back when Fallout 1 and 2 first came out, but when I was a young teen those games were given for free with gaming magazines, and this was around the time when Fallout 3 was already announced, and the games were basically marketing for the magazine's Fallout 3 articles. So around the time I finished 1 and 2, 3 was released. So while I was in the Fallout 3 generation age-wise, I played 1 and 2 first thanks to gaming magazines, and I also felt that sense of "this is like a different band entirely" as a result.

I'll be honest I didn't know Lyons breaking away was unpopular, I loved it personally

@SentientMeatloaf1

Жыл бұрын

It’s one of the things that makes perfect sense but people who have made hating Bethesda their main personality trait like latching onto every discrepancy with past lore and complaining endlessly about it.

@TheCynicalAutist

Жыл бұрын

@@SentientMeatloaf1 Todd Howard is that you?

@SentientMeatloaf1

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCynicalAutist if you are going to insult me at least come up with something original.

@portalworld9880

Жыл бұрын

@@SentientMeatloaf1 I don’t like Bethesda’s Fallout, or at least, how they’re handling Fallout, but I personally really like the departure of what they did with Lyons in 3. They were doing a good thing I think personally would be worth fighting for, but there are obviously people inside the chapter who disagree greatly. The worst thing I can say is that Lyons chapter is similar to the Minutemen in 4; bland, goody two-shoe faction. But even I can’t say that with confidence cause there is more in-depth with the BoS in 3, not much, but certainly more than the Minutemen in 4

@ChrisBear1989

Жыл бұрын

Being the "Mostly good" faction wasn't really the Minuteman's problems. They just didn't have much going on with them.

I would love to hop back into 76, I have like 80 something hours in it, but It crashes anytime I try to launch it sadly. Congrats on 50k man been here for a while you deserve alot more, don't let it change you though.

@Keloot

Жыл бұрын

Stop trying to run F4 in a dual core and 4 gigs of ram my guy

I have been watching for a nice while. Glad you got to 50k. Keep it up, I hope this does you well. Now do more opinion pieces.

Your DJ opinions validated a lot for me

Congratulations brother.🍾

I honestly love what fallout 4 did with power armor, it feels a lot more clunky and more like power armor should be, a huge, slow, and heavily armored suit of armor that needs power to function. Not like previous fallout games where after you get the training you just equip it like any other armor. The only thing i don't like about fallout 4 power armor is that you dont need the training. Which makes sense if you chose the male character, who was canonically in the military...but it makes no sense when you pick the female character, who was a lawyer.

@doctorgrubious7725

2 жыл бұрын

I consider the fusion core system to be the remedy for power armor training, you can’t just constantly use them, they do require Power to be power armor

@nonytknocker

2 ай бұрын

Power armor training only existed in 3 and NV for balancing purposes, FO4 should have just made it rarer.

Congrats on the 50k!!!

I would have to agree with you on all counts. Some for my own reasons. It is stated in the lore that the capital waste BoS were effectively shunned by the west cost due to Lyons choices so i see it as a good fit and a smart choice to show what a more helpful BoS could be. As for the power armor you are spot on with the point of each branch wanting their own models and even today we have many close limited run platforms used for testing, also the retooling idea is wonderful. Especially in a resource limited time they would definitely use a preexisting platform to make the base of a new one saving time and cost. All in all it is a good list and I look forward to more content when you can make it.

Hey, congrats on 50k! Your videos are always informative and make me think. Regarding a couple of your points: 1- Elder Lyons was a Paladin during the purge of The Pitt, before continuing on to DC. I would think that gave him the motivation to change The Brotherhood's direction. Here's another city, destroyed and almost full of mutants, ghouls, and raiders, and some innocents. So the question probably was "Do we purge this place like The Pitt, or do we actually use what we have to help people?" 4- Fallout 76 had its moments. They were few and far between, but they were there. It's just the 'story' that I found lacking (not to mention the bugs and exploits) But I respect people who like 76, because I did for a little while. For about 2-3 months. Then the grind, the repetition, the unimaginative quests, and the constant need to repair everything killed my interest in playing any further. Keep up the good work!

congrats on 50k bud I love your videos and cant wait for more of them lol

Good arguments, I agree with a bulk of these opinions too. Congrats on 50k !

Man I am so happy you hit 50k. You’re one of my absolutely favorite people on here. Honestly if it weren’t for you and some others I’d delete YT. If you play 76 on Xbox HMU in fact if anyone wants to play let me know

I wish the old games were remade but made in the fashion of something like Baldur's gate 3 or divinity original sin 2. i feel like the fact that people miss the story's of the first 2 really suck and it would be nice for people to be able to play it.

Congrats on 50k

I'm glad to start to see this channel blow up

I’ve been watching for a long time, I thought I was subscribed, but congrats!

I may be your long lost twin, because I agree with all of your points!

Congrats on the 50k

Congrats on 50k subscribers 👏👏👏🎉🎉

Some time late but COGRATS on the growth of ur channel man!

Not at all likely but imagine getting Tactics 2, Extreme, and BoS 2 instead of 3, NV, and 4... I shuddered at the thought.

@alexzero3736

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, Interplay was living it s last months... To make it all happen, Bethesda should buy whole studio. And F3 would come out together with Tactics 2. So Tactics would be received as spin-off.

@marlowbob6795

2 жыл бұрын

Probably never would have hapend, but Troka game a studio where a lot older fallout developer when was trying to buy fallout before Bethesda barged it.

@alexzero3736

2 жыл бұрын

@@marlowbob6795 this is a misconception. Troika games is NOT a fallout developer, it s founders of Troika games were in developing team of Fallout 1. They left Black Isle during work on Fallout 2, as they told, they lost control on project and lost feel of family. Chris Avellon for example worked on 3 Fallouts: 1,2 and New Vegas.

On your first point, you forgot to mention the events leading to the rise of Ashur, which is tied to both the Brotherhoods history, and that of the Pitt region. On the point you made about Bethesda's acquisition of the Fallout series, I can agree to some degree. I do think the Fallout 3 we got was still decent, but Van Buren would have been great I think. Also I think Tactics is a good game, and while a departure from the traditional style, had promise in terms of lore and story. Also there were some interesting creatures in the game. I think Tactics was trying to do something that in it's time might not have stuck.. but I think if a Fallout game was made today in a similar way, it'd be well received. Think a Fallout game made in the XCOM style. You could add co-op, and have a larger world like 76(not as big to allow for some streamlining and more efficient development). You'd walk around in normal fashion (also a vehicle would be an option to get, or mounts). And when you enter combat, instead of the traditional VATS system, you'd have an XCOM style tactical system.

@gpheonix1

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a big miss on me fam. If a fallout game isnt free moving or whatever you call it. I’m not playing. A world that’s big and open that doesn’t allow you to explore from as close as a real perspective is a miss.

@justinjones7166

2 жыл бұрын

Try wasteland 3

When you made the "old band you loved that changed over the years" analogy, that really hit home for me, and that band for me is ironically Fallout Boy lol.

Congratulations deer brother you deserved it may Atoms glow forever shine upon on you

So happy there's a new video. I love your content

First off congratulations on the 50k. You really do topnotch work here. Second I couldn't agree more with your first opinion, that the East coast BoS was a good change an ideological shift is bound to happen over 200 years. Lyons was already a upstart among the other Elders. His chapters journey across the wasteland only cemented and gave clarity to his different beliefs. My controversial opinion is that Fallout 4's Maxson's BoS is not a wild departure from Lyons' vision as I've heard people believe it to be. Infact Maxson's east coast BoS is still overwhelmingly Lyons' vision of what the BoS should be. They still produce and distribute Aqua Pura, still openly defened, educate and recruit from the wasteland population, still anti-mutation be it supermutant, ghoul ect, still against the abuse of technology. The difference is Elder Lyons was older and learned to speak softly and carry a big stick. I could easily imagine a younger Lyons being just as passionate and frustrated as Elder Maxson seems in fallout 4. They both were practically exiled from the thing they loved most, Lyons because his views were considered controversial and Maxon because his bloodline was inconvenient. Point being Owyn Lyons and Arthur Maxson are FAR more similar in there vision for the BoS then the fans give them credit for.

In Fallout 76 I have only encountered 2 main bugs recently. 1. My missile turrets will attack ghoul traders nonstop but traders can't be killed by the turrets. 2. I have the marsupial mutation and when I jump somewhere that feral ghouls can't reach they run away at hyperspeed and when I jump down they gang up on me at hyperspeed.

@danthekangaman

2 жыл бұрын

Fallout 76 has gotten much better, for sure. I do enjoy hopping on every now and then. Unfortunately, the game is way too grindy in its postgame and I’ve been turned off by that.

@Keloot

Жыл бұрын

@@danthekangaman grindy in what way? I don't think you ever played 76 my guy

@danthekangaman

Жыл бұрын

@@Keloot took me over 50 hours of gameplay to get a full set of 3 star unyielding secret service armor. I know what I’m talking about.

Damn never seen a subscriber milestone video that's designed to potentially get rid of subscribers lol I love it!

The Brotherhood in Fallout 3 remind me of the Minutemen in Fallout 4 because they want to help Capital Wasteland like how the Minutemen help the Commonwelth

I'm your long lost twin. Where is my consistent healthy discussions ?! Love you bro.

I wouldn't mind a remake of the originals because at the end of the day the original versions would still exist for anyone who wanted to play them. It's not like they would be erased and honestly it would be interesting to see what a smaller more compact Fallout 1 or 2 would be like.

Agree with you on Linkin Park, their music hasn't been the same since What I've Done.

50K? I’m a newer sub but I thought you had like 200K bc of the production. underrated bro

Man you're making me tempted to give 76 a full play, I tried it a few months before the wastelanders update in a free trial and it felt so empty, but so many people have said it's massively improved

@doctorgrubious7725

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a game that requires a different mindset to play, I think that’s why it got so much shit, it definitely doesn’t play the same as 4 despite the same control scheme, it’s an online game with some survival aspects but a bigger emphasis on looting and grinding, first play through for me was kind of shit cause I didn’t understand the mechanics, I died constantly and felt like everything was just unfair, second play through is when I learned the game more and did a melee build I found online, third play through was the best because I was able to understand the game more, I definitely wouldn’t of needed 3 play throughs to play any other fallout game, it’s not a bad thing, it’s just a learning experience each time, which everyone inevitably goes through

I agree with the 76 take. While certain aspects of the game are not great it did do a great job with many things, and example you didn't mention but I really like is how they managed to bring back maintaining/repairing your gear and working it into the scrap system Fallout 4 introduced. This was something that kinda annoyed me with 4 as I feel that sort of maintenance of gear would be important in a post apocalyptic setting. A lot of the environment stuff, I also believe benefits from this rural setting and not having to squeeze in some major city. Also the Wastelanders expansion did bring in more skill checks and traditional dialog boxes, which I also personally deem as an improvement over 4.

I find I have to agree with everything here, although I doubt I'll even really come to like Fallout 3 or '76. In defense of Fallout Tactics, this was actually a pretty common practice at the time. The idea was to take one aspect of a game that people loved (usually the combat system) and make an entire game based around it. The games weren't necessarily meant to be canon and usually existed in a sort of limbo, with the player deciding if it was canon or not. A really good example of this (which was also a flop) was when they released an XCOM-based flight sim where you flew a fighter to take on UFOs. For those of us old enough to remember when it came out, the game was horribly panned because it strayed too far from the source material, despite it not being a horrible game on its own. In terms of whether the original games should be remade, I agree that Bethesda should leave them alone. Bethesda is a company whose profit margins depend on there being fewer scandals, so they would HAVE to take out important aspects such as slavery to avoid a lot of slandering, even though those topics exist BECAUSE they're meant to spark thought and discussion. On the other hand, modders don't have to worry about political opinions and can focus on including all the original content without penalty. It's possible they'll solve the overworld travel through use of a "travel map" similar to the original games, with only the locations and random encounters being in 3D, which I think is a perfectly workable compromise. When it comes to power armour, I look at the East-West Divide before judging. We know that the eastern seaboard has a very heavy emphasis on the '50s retro aesthetic, as well as a very nationalistic view. Meanwhile, the western seaboard is much less interested in nationalism or retro aesthetics. In fact, there's plenty of evidence in the games (an I believe Bethesda did this intentionally) that the riots led to something of a split in the nation, with the east being turned to nationalistic propaganda due to its proximity to DC, whereas the west coast kind of went its own way and was largely ignorant of what was going on in the east. So if we take the East-West divide as fact, it stands to reason that defence contractors on the east coast (the hotbed of the nationalist movement) would have developed the T-60 as an upgrade to the T-45, as well as additional armours that may or may not have ever seen active service. Meanwhile, most of the troops returning from Anchorage wouldhave filtered down the west coast where much of the T-45 and T-50 production was likely based. This would explain why we only see those armours in the early Fallout games. The passage of time is yet another consideration, with Fallout 2 happening well before Fallout 3, giving the Enclave plenty of time to develop new power armours. However, this does leave '76 to stand out like a sore thumb, since the sheer abundance of unique armour types that are found nowhere else and yet are all prewar kind of turns everything on its ear. That's the one place where I can't find a justification that makes logical sense at this time.

Happy for you bro

I like the new logo! It’s like the DraftKings logo, but more green lol

Ngl, your channels great. I haven't seen such detail observations since the Nth Apple retired his channel

A real world example for the ideological difference in the West and East coast Brotherhoods would be the various Potestant movements in Europe, both from the Catholic church and from each other. Many of which fought vicious wars over their right to exist and practice freely, often with living memory of their founding. more rapid and more bitter divides have occurred in the real world.

I agree with you saying Bethesda wouldn’t do something Interplay did. But you said slavery wasn’t in any fallout past three but in Nuka World there were many slaves around the park

Congratulations! Hail to the King, baby!

RADKING yes thanks for doing my suggestion.

Congrats on 50k subs! You go, king! 🤴

You know i think most who started with fallout 3 agree with almost all of your opinions, myself included P.s: Hey identical bro

@justinjones7166

2 жыл бұрын

Bro club

Congrats on 50k! I have to say I enjoyed the Pre NPC era of 76 a bit. I certainly understand why they brought back NPCs and it really adds some neat stuff, however I really enjoyed the story telling. It was gruff and depressing and that was my favorite parts of the original. Of course it had it’s funny moments but it mixed them well, Bethesda doesn’t.

DUDE.. I was literally thinking Linkin Park when you made the comparison

The Linkin Park point hit me strong. I totally agree.