Jason, I learned to chop from my father when i was really young on the 5820. Then we moved on to the 5830. I still remember the first 6010 series coming out and we thought that was a monster machine. No we run a 9800 and can't believe the power. Lance

@robwar2288

Жыл бұрын

I remember being in 9th grade and seeing the 10 series brochure trying to figure out what people would do with 400HP!!!😂😂😂

@kirklothert3435

Жыл бұрын

You mean now

@user-kn3cy1oz9x

Жыл бұрын

@@kirklothert3435you figured it out.

@kirklothert3435

Жыл бұрын

@@user-kn3cy1oz9x... Figured what out?

They sure have come a long way. The 5000 series was basically a combine drive train with a forage harvester built around it. That said, in their day the 5400's were the cat's meow. In the mid '90's a custom operator in our area bought one, it retired a whole generation of pull type choppers in our county.

@fredsleeter

Жыл бұрын

I’m ok o o o o

We're still using our 5440. We bought it in 1979 before our sons.were born. I still operate it but one son and a nephew do all the repair work as needed. Ontario Canada

The first 20 years they made these the price was such they basically only sold to custom operators. Average dairy farms needing silage were not going to spend that kind of $$$ on one of these when the tractor they use to pull the plow could hook up to a pull type that cost 1/3 or less and do about 80% of the same job or more. The series in the 90's was the first to truly eclipse what could be done with a pull type, but the 90's were a rough time of change and consolidation for dairy so i am not even sure how many actually sold at that time either. Pull type was still giving it's last hurrah, Gehl and Case IH made a couple rated for 250+ HP and companies had made dump wagons to load trucks for them and such. A lot of farmers were still filling silo in the 90's, but it was rapidly declining. We had a custom guy in our neighborhood that ran a Gehl with a 3 row head behind his crab-walk Case in the 80's and used the tractor to pull a 9 bottom plow in the spring. So not all the custom guys went out and bought a self propelled either. The real issue with forage ended up being it took too long to get into a silo, and once herd sizes grew it took way too long to get it back out. Harvesters surpassed that issue, so change was needed. Once people went fully to bunks, pull type was basically obsolete, farms had gotten so big and so consolidated hauling feed down the highway was basically required, and so the modern huge machines we have now were purchased despite their enormous price tags. Most dairy farms now are such large operations that stuff that used to be the custom guys job can be absorbed into the "company cash flow" and purchased outright. Usually run by hired hands. One could say the custom operators got hired on full time out of necessity. I personally disagree 100% with the direct farming went, but this is reality and these mega machines are needed and the designs are a culmination of learning from the last 80 years of silage making, and are impressive in the ground they can cover.

I am always fascinated on how you turned something into many kind of dishes. They are so mouth watering 🤤! And it's an honor to have you visit our channel, we can discuss more about our experiences in harvesting and building farms.

Awesome video Jason! Our neighbors has a John Deere self propelled chopper couple years old . It's amazing now a days seeing it gobble up rows of corn ana hay. Versus my dad's fox pul type chopper with a single row corn head an the hay head back when. We farmmed.

Not more Fans ore Operators of the first generation here on te chanal? After reading 37 comments i am realy glade to know somebody who owns an SPFH JD 5200 2wd chopping on exhibitions. I love the first generation 5000 so much, thanks BTP for sharing! Pleas do more series 5000🙏

Forage harvesters are BEASTS!!! Newer ones around 1,000 hp. Amazing.

@noahater5785

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, things have changed a lot over the course of almost 50 years!

Another great video, thanks Jason.

Cool! We had a pull type deere chopper, jiffy side dump

Awesome video Jason I have a Ertl 1/64 Hohn Deere 8600 Forage Harvester. I love the 8600 Forage Harvester. I would actually love to own one someday.

Great video. There is just something about forage harvesting that is neat.

Thanks Jason!

Definitely a awesome video of really awesome silage chopping machines!!

Thanks for an awesome video Jason keep them coming. Happy new year.

These machines are neat to watch. Probably my second favorite farming machines next to fall tillage tractors

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Chopping is one of my favorite times to film each year. 👍👍

Worked on all series from pull type to spfh. 7000 series by far my favorite. They all have there issues but they definitely made a good machine before switching to the 8000 series platform.

My cousin here in York PA still uses a 5730 with 3 H&S 7+4 wagons.

Love watching the silage harvest videos👊🙂

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Chopping is one of my favorite things to film.

It’s pretty crazy how technology has evolved in 50 years!! Thanks for the video Jason!! Happy New year! 🎉

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

It’s amazing how big and fast these choppers have become.

Good my friend 👍♥️🇮🇩🇮🇩

John Deere tractor that Is pulling aJohn Deere chopper was definitely smoking 😃.reminded me of my Old John Deere 4620. With fuel pump turned up. She ran 220 horsepower.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

I thought people might enjoy the 4020 rolling coal.

@marknewman1971

Жыл бұрын

@@bigtractorpower Yes definitely brought back a lot of good memories.

This was cool. I have to say, those old/early machines were very cool IMO.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

They are very cool. I hope to find the yellow top 5720 or 5820 to film do I have a full series set.

Choppers have come a long way😁👍the horsepower is just impressive😉💪

That's what we operated on our farm in the 1970s a 5400. Purchased through the dealership John P Halpin and sons Henrietta NY. I unloaded a new one off a Railroad flatcar in 1974 on the Lehigh Valley RR siding in Henrietta NY. A very popular and quality unit. Many satisfied customers.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Wow that is so cool. Halpins is my all time favorite John Deere dealer. I remember allot of 5400s and 5460s on the trade in lot at Monroe Tractor in Batavia in the early 90’s as Claas started to gain popularity.

This was a great look all the way vack, thanks Jason!

@tonyburelle6633

Жыл бұрын

Back that is

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. This was fun to make. It represents 10 years of filming to collect each generation of chopper. The 6750 just got filmed this October. The 7550 was filmed in 2011. I am still searching for a 5720 or 5820 to film.

Wow, that 9900 was hauling the mail!

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

It’s a monster chopper. Big leap in power and ability.

@peterbowlander8681

Жыл бұрын

And price tag

Excellent video 👍👍👍 Excellent video 👍👍👍 Excellent video 👍👍👍 That 9900 was a beast compared to the 1972 model...

@bigtractorpower

7 ай бұрын

They just keep growing. It’s amazing what a modern chopper can do.

Good video

👋hey👋 from Dexter,Missouri my friend. Another super amazein video. Be safe on 🛣️ roads 🛣️

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Happy New Year. Thank you for watching so ma y BTP videos this year.

Very very cool video

I like the 6750 from 1997 to 2001 the best by the way happy new years 🎆🎊🎈

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Happy New Year.

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO AND THE PRICE OF EACH MACHINE

@bigtractorpower

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching. It is interesting tracking the changes in price over the decades.

I’ve custom swathed for guys who run choppers, you should come out west in early May and watch those big machines work in the spring wheat crop.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

I would enjoy that. I hope I get a chance to some day. It would be cool to see the swathers too.

We ran a jd5400 for many years in the 90s then we upgraded to a newholland fr9060.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Very cool. That is a huge upgrade. How have you like the New Holland FR?

@jong5800

Жыл бұрын

@@bigtractorpower it’s been a big learning experience but overall it’s been a great machine. It’s quite the difference going from a 3row corn head to an 8row. And 13 feet of windrow to 65 feet.

The 5400.Dad worked for a John Deere dealer in Geenwich,New York in 1972 & sold a brand new 5400 to Roy Everetts of Schuylerville,New York.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Very cool. William Halpin from Halpin’s dealership in Henrietta, NY just outside of Rochester shared about selling 5400s in this thread.

Great tribute to JD forage harvesters. I can’t believe Deere is up to 970hp! Was that Andy hourigan or his uncle? Also loved the smoke pouring outta that old 4020…really putting the coal to it!

@coryfritz295

Жыл бұрын

That was his Uncle.

@EDBZ28

Жыл бұрын

@@coryfritz295 👌🏼

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

I thought people might enjoy the 4020 😁👍. You are correct on the 9900

@tompefoofnik1559

Жыл бұрын

That was Andy's uncle's new chopper to replace the 8000 series chopper he burned up this summer. That was definitely an Andy (and Sara and Alex) built truck box they were filling though!

@EDBZ28

Жыл бұрын

@@tompefoofnik1559 yes, it didn’t look like Andy’s chopper, but def his trucks! That entire family look like they have well-run operations.

Excellent video as always

There's a bunch of the John Deere self propelled corn choppers in my area here in northern Minnesota I end up working on most of them thru out the harvest season many models and age from a 5830 6710 6810s and 7550 7800 models they all have the Kemper multi crop heads they are good machines but are expensive to repair

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Nice selection of choppers. I want to find a 5720 or 5820. It’s the series of Deere choppers I have not filmed.

Happy New Year

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Happy New Year. Thank you for watching.

One thing I have noticed so far is machines up until the 7500 have a kind of boxy look to their engine compartment, then it transitions over to a more rounded design from that point onwards

@colamity_5000

7 ай бұрын

Yeah that's the switch from steel bodies to a lot of plastic. Bodywork on modern equipment looks like a 90s sports car now.

Have, a Great New year 2023 From Graceland Farm inc est 1900s

Wow just shy of a mil for one of these... Hope they have their time table filled with custom work damn...

I personally love the 5830 cuz I feel alot of smaller dairy. farmers would probably love a new version of made ro compete with the pull type

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

@Blackwellll3066

Жыл бұрын

@bigtractorpower yea cuz seems like ya can only buy a new pull type or new 12 row chopper nothing in between

At 1:48 looks like IH wheel weights on the back wheels.

Why do I think the truck near the end looked familiar as though it was built by an Andy. I guess that'll do it folks

@lynwessel2471

Жыл бұрын

...we'll catch ya at the next one.

👍👍

😁👍💪

That 9900 at the end looked like Andy Hourigans uncle

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct.

I had a 6750 still have a 7700 and a jd7750

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Very cool. Nice choppers.

I’m curious about the varieties of corn they’re chopping. Is it a variety of corn just meant for feed or is it regular corn that they set aside and harvest/chop while its still green? Do they sometimes harvest corn for feed from a crop that just had a bad year (say a drought) and a poor yield thats not worth the time and expense to harvest with a combine and at least get some feed to offset the loss? Thanks. I watch your videos all the time.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Good question. One I asked my self while filming a chopper a few years ago. In most cases in modern dairy farms there are corn silage varieties planted. These varieties are raised specifically for green chopping at 65% moisture or less to maximize the tonnage harvested per acre vs. bushels per acre for grain. In decades past often the least performing fields were selected to chop vs combine. That may occur some today but mostly it is pre planned to a specific variety.

👍 👍

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

😁👍

Peterson farms by salina kansas have a John Deere 5830 chopper on their farm gas a lot of hours on it.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

I enjoy seeing their 5830 when they are in silage season. It has the optional truck filling spout.

Has the quality and value gone up as much as the price tag?

@bigtractorpower

6 ай бұрын

The all mechanical machines from the 70’s will last a life time. Yet they are slow paced compared to the capabilities of a 2023 machine. It’s all about speed to created the best forage crop for feeding

Have you seen those new NEXAT machines made in Germany? They aren't traditional tractors, but they are really wide and fast. I saw a video about them on Farmworld_TV. Pretty interesting design they have.

@Chester200100

Жыл бұрын

Nexats are modular tractors able to equip a variety of atachments including combine, sprayers, air drills and more

@douglassellers7528

Жыл бұрын

@@Chester200100 A new Uni system? I think New Idea came up with that a while back.

@Beyonder8335

Жыл бұрын

@@douglassellers7528it’s essentially a hybrid of of the uni system and a gantry tractor yes.

@colamity_5000

7 ай бұрын

They are overcomplicated, require proprietary everything, have no repair network and don't really solve any problems. I'm sure there are niches for it to fill but its very silly machine imo.

Where's the 5200 used one for quite a few years

Lot better than the 611 new holland 1 row corn chopper we had but it did have its own engine and we had a new holland 3 point hitch 708 1 row

No 8700?

Farming is not the same with the Ag labor shortage. My neighbor to the west has three 7,000 milking cows barns about 5 miles apart. The barns are almost two miles long. Plus a cheese factory that receives milk by pipe line. The neighbor to the south has eight JD 9900 choppers to help supply the feed bunks.

I usually watch your videos muted because I do not like commentary. Only trouble with that is you do, not hear the machines run, so I rarely make it all the way through.

@bigtractorpower

6 ай бұрын

I understand. The specs and price are not for everyone. I try to balance the presentation with sound right after the intro and additional sound and action before the end. I had 25,000 subscribers in my first five years on KZread. When I started providing details on the machines in 2016 I jumped to 100,000 subscribers in just over a year. I do post shorts each day which are a preview of future videos that rarely have narration.

Anyone else experience with first 5200 / 5400 chopper, with 2wd / 4wd, .... I would like to here all Story before that knowledge is lost for ever! Don't let that history die out.

@frankr.1594

Жыл бұрын

Has somebody knowledge about the 4 row rowcrop head (as used on the pull type 4720 chopper)mountened on 5200/5400?

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

If you scroll through the comments in this video you will see a post from William Halpin on buying a 5400 new.

why are the grass headers so wide in America? usually they are like 8ft wide but there they look double that

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Many times they collecting 70ft or more of crop. I guess this way you can feed it all in with out it spilling over the sides.

@ThePilotPenguin1

Жыл бұрын

@@bigtractorpower possibly out in new zealand we often took 60 80 or more ft at once with the 10ft header. it was raked with 4 rotor rakes though

silage cutters never have 'plenty' of power. Always push to the max of engine

Not sure if your interested but hamiltonville farms you tube channel found a series 50 I think in an old barn that’s falling down owner wants to sell hank is you tuber

JOHN DEERE 5830 JOHN DEERE 212 12ft Direct Cut Head JOHN DEERE 444 JOHN DEERE 7HP KEMPER 3000

Have you done a sugarcane harvester video?

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

Not yet but it is on my wish list to film.

The 900 hp engine needs to burn over 40 gallons of fuel an hour.

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

The big question is how many acres get covered for the 40 gallons. With enough trucks a bunch is cut. When I was a kid it would take a week to clear of 30 acres with a two row chopper and two forage boxes. Now taking in 12 rows it’s a matter of hours.

Why can’t combines come with a 1000 hp or better

@bigtractorpower

Жыл бұрын

They do not require that much horse power to thresh grain. A chopper takes in a 12-15ft tall plant and processes it into chips. Plus chopping an ear of corn into bits takes Hp. A combine only takes the grain so even the largest combines taking in 50ft only use 500-700 hp.

@lynwessel2471

Жыл бұрын

Look up the Nexat system . Twin engine 1100 hp.carrier unit for tillage, planting. spraying (200 ft) and 50 ft draper/20+ row corn head combine.