50+ New Yun Tal Interactions - Bel'Veth E, Twitch Ult, Viego Q and More!

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Chapters:
00:00 - Does it stack?
00:25 - Bel'Veth E
01:05 - Jinx Q
01:16 - Twitch R
01:34 - Hurricane
01:45 - Yasuo Q
02:06 - Yone Q
02:12 - Towers
02:31 - Briar W
02:39 - Urgot W
02:46 - Zeri Q
03:01 - Zeri Q + E
03:08 - Zeri W
03:13 - Graves Passive
03:18 - Aphelios Severum
03:26 - Aphelios Infernum
03:32 - Aphelios off-hand
03:42 - Aphelios Tower
03:48 - Sivir W
03:54 - Empowered Pantheon W
04:01 - Bel'Veth Q
04:07 - Ashe Passive
04:13 - Ashe W
04:20 - Gangplank Q
04:25 - Gangplank E
04:31 - Fiora E
04:38 - Nilah Q
04:44 - Miss Fortune Q
04:49 - Miss Fortune Ult
04:58 - Shaco Passive + Q
05:08 - Rengar Q
05:18 - Talon Q
05:23 - Garen Q
05:28 - Garen E
05:33 - Samira Q
05:39 - Samira Ult
05:44 - Master Yi Passive
05:50 - Master Yi Q
05:56 - Vi E
06:01 - Kayle Passive
06:07 - Jayce W
06:16 - Shyvana Q
06:22 - Viego Q
06:28 - Lucian Passive
06:35 - Akshan Passive
06:40 - Jhin Ult
06:53 - Sundered Sky
07:11 - Rageblade
07:30 - Shadowflame
07:37 - Fake Crits
07:43 - Additional Bug
08:06 - Yun Tal vs. IE
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  • @HextechLab
    @HextechLab14 күн бұрын

    Timestamps: 00:00 - Does it stack? 00:25 - Bel'Veth E 01:05 - Jinx Q 01:16 - Twitch R 01:34 - Hurricane 01:45 - Yasuo Q 02:06 - Yone Q 02:12 - Towers 02:31 - Briar W 02:39 - Urgot W 02:46 - Zeri Q 03:01 - Zeri Q + E 03:08 - Zeri W 03:13 - Graves Passive 03:18 - Aphelios Severum 03:26 - Aphelios Infernum 03:32 - Aphelios off-hand 03:42 - Aphelios Tower 03:48 - Sivir W 03:54 - Empowered Pantheon W 04:01 - Bel'Veth Q 04:07 - Ashe Passive 04:13 - Ashe W 04:20 - Gangplank Q 04:25 - Gangplank E 04:31 - Fiora E 04:38 - Nilah Q 04:44 - Miss Fortune Q 04:49 - Miss Fortune Ult 04:58 - Shaco Passive + Q 05:08 - Rengar Q 05:18 - Talon Q 05:23 - Garen Q 05:28 - Garen E 05:33 - Samira Q 05:39 - Samira Ult 05:44 - Master Yi Passive 05:50 - Master Yi Q 05:56 - Vi E 06:01 - Kayle Passive 06:07 - Jayce W 06:16 - Shyvana Q 06:22 - Viego Q 06:28 - Lucian Passive 06:35 - Akshan Passive 06:40 - Jhin Ult 06:53 - Sundered Sky 07:11 - Rageblade 07:30 - Shadowflame 07:37 - Fake Crits 07:43 - Additional Bug 08:06 - Yun Tal vs. IE

  • @SkinShowcase-zm3rs

    @SkinShowcase-zm3rs

    14 күн бұрын

    Great video! Always helpful.

  • @reaprsoza4656

    @reaprsoza4656

    14 күн бұрын

    does chakram passive stack it?

  • @yun754

    @yun754

    14 күн бұрын

    where us kata ?

  • @houki6776

    @houki6776

    13 күн бұрын

    How about yasuo E+Q

  • @SkinShowcase-zm3rs

    @SkinShowcase-zm3rs

    13 күн бұрын

    @@houki6776 I will check

  • @NCognito
    @NCognito13 күн бұрын

    The only requirements for Yun Tal to apply are that the damage critically strikes and the damage applies On-hit effects. Every ability interaction shown is functioning how it should, except for two: Shaco Q and Akshan Passive. They critically strike, and they apply on-hits, so what's the deal? After doing a little testing, I found out something: THEY ARE FAKE CRITS. They are completely ignored by the "Critical Resilience" passive on Randuin's Omen. Although the descriptions say "the attack critically strikes" like every other ability that crits, the damage is only reduced by the "Rock Solid" passive. That's why Shaco Q only applies the burn if he has actual crit chance, cause the original Attack crits, not the Q. So, if you've been building Randuin's Omen into a Crit Akshan, you are actually getting trolled by riot and taking about 12.24% more damage than you should be taking! If you've been playing Crit Shaco, you actually do more damage if you backstab someone with Q and DON'T crit. At 173ad, a Q backstab does 322 damage, "increased" to 255 if you crit naturally! How awesome, I love Riot Games :)

  • @Bigkingnecromancer

    @Bigkingnecromancer

    13 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the research fellow faceless one Can Shaco Q double crit? As in natural backstab plus a crit from critchance?

  • @Briezar

    @Briezar

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@Bigkingnecromancer if 2 crit effects overlap, the higher damage is applied.

  • @clovened4351

    @clovened4351

    13 күн бұрын

    holy fuck

  • @Briezar

    @Briezar

    13 күн бұрын

    ackshually the technical term is "cosmetic crit" ☝️🤓

  • @ceyx1201

    @ceyx1201

    13 күн бұрын

    I mean with this analysis, you should make your own vid.

  • @pedromilesprouwer1283
    @pedromilesprouwer128314 күн бұрын

    Belveth 💀

  • @Yenandorr

    @Yenandorr

    14 күн бұрын

    with guinsoo 💀💀💀

  • @LeLouisLafontaine

    @LeLouisLafontaine

    13 күн бұрын

    @@Yenandorr omg yeah, guinsoo 💀💀💀

  • @HextechLab

    @HextechLab

    13 күн бұрын

    @@Yenandorr imagine Riot wouldn't have backed out of the melee Runaan's changes...

  • @dariusfilip4695

    @dariusfilip4695

    13 күн бұрын

    belveth eating good this patch

  • @user-xh1on8qt3g

    @user-xh1on8qt3g

    13 күн бұрын

    Useless item on bel, no hp and bel doesnt build crit

  • @VocalMabiMaple
    @VocalMabiMaple14 күн бұрын

    This item is just a knowledge check item lmao

  • @Camiddle
    @Camiddle14 күн бұрын

    As far as I can tell, it just seems like it checks to see if both a crit has occurred and an on hit is applied in the same instance, and you *should* be able to just make a list of abilities that can do both? Like, it makes sense that Urgot W wouldn't apply, because while it applies on hits, it can never crit. On the flip side, it explains why Twitch R bullets and Hurricane projectiles both apply the burn, given that both sources can crit and apply on hits. Jinx rockets/Zeri Q only apply on hits to the primary target, so even though they can crit multiple, only the target that can be hit by both in the same instance would take the burn. A few of the comments seem to think it's just rolling the dice for each champion, but I think if you know how said champions work, you should be able to accurately guess which champions/items/abilities it works on pretty easily. The only ones I'm surprised about is Shaco Q not proccing unless it was a rolled crit rather than forced and Akshan 2nd auto, but I suspect that's just classic spaghetti code. Thanks for reading, and while I can't promise it's the case, I think it's close enough to the truth that it's worth mentioning! (also I love the content, as always, and thanks for showing!

  • @saul2416

    @saul2416

    14 күн бұрын

    We should also test if each of ashe's q bullet count or if it is like zeri and only the first bullet is checked for the crit (ashes q bullets roll for crit individually, so im talking about not having the 100% crit)

  • @Camiddle

    @Camiddle

    14 күн бұрын

    @@saul2416 I think it's almost definitely just one proc per auto, given that she only applies one instance of on hit per auto regardless of her flurry count.

  • @NCognito

    @NCognito

    13 күн бұрын

    dropped a longer reply in the comments somewhere, but basically Akshan and Shaco both have fake crits, even though the ability descriptions word it as if they are "real" crits, and every other ability worded that way function correctly

  • @HextechLab

    @HextechLab

    13 күн бұрын

    Yes on-hit effects + crit is the requirement (and Akshan and Shaco are not real crits which is very surprising as NCognito pointed out). Still, I think the most important result for gameplay from this video is that modifiers like Bel'Veth E and Aphelios Severum which normally balance the insane amount of attacks are not applied to the burn. This makes it very strong on these champions (and useless on everybody else). After testing 5 or 10 champions I probably could have just stopped and concluded that on-hit effects + crit is the requirement. After testing a few champions with modifiers I could have also concluded that all modifiers are not applied. But at that point I just wanted to show all interactions, especially the strong ones. Which is good, since otherwise I wouldn't have found Akshan who I tested almost last. Sadly, I was so sure that Akshan is a real crit that I just thought that there are some real crits who don't apply and that it is just kind of random, so I did not put on-hit effects and crit as a requirement in a final conclusion into the video.

  • @nickschaus7785

    @nickschaus7785

    13 күн бұрын

    Along your same lines of "If you know how they work", Shaco Q is a visual crit but not an actual critical strike. The most common example, mage spells with shadowflame ,'look' like crits, but really they are just damage modifiers and are not true critical strikes unless the attack itself was a crit. The only shockers in this video are the damage is not reduced by onhit reduction modifiers like belveth passive/e (This will likely be added before release or else this item will only be viable on like 3 champs and terrible for everyone else or viable for others and those champs will be permabanned) and that akshan passive does not work. Last one is just weird because it applies on-hit/on-attack effects and can critically strike, so there should really be no reason something like that wouldn't apply the effect twice.

  • @DillonMeyer
    @DillonMeyer13 күн бұрын

    For Ashe, with JUST the arrows, your hits on targets slowed by her passive will always apply it, as her passive simply makes every hit a crit with severely reduced crit damage. It's worded to say it doesn't crit, but coded to always crit, even with 0% crit. The damage scales with both crit damage and chance. One thing you didn't touch on is if her autos after activating q apply it multiple times as it is multiple hits.

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    Only Ashe's first arrow of a Q autoattack applies on-hit so it only applies once per auto.

  • @DillonMeyer

    @DillonMeyer

    13 күн бұрын

    @@Stachelbeeerchen Makes sense.

  • @sentro5382

    @sentro5382

    13 күн бұрын

    are you sure? im not sure that's the case. I thought ashe DID have crit chance, her crits just multiply the slow instead of dealing bonus damage (given her bonus damage is applied to already frosted targets as she builds crit chance). Remember that just because there's a crit icon doesnt mean an attack or ability crits, riot often use it to add satisfaction and clarity to bonus damage amplification.

  • @afterlyte

    @afterlyte

    13 күн бұрын

    That's not how her passive works. Her attacks apply Frost which slows and causes subsequent hits to do bonus damage scaling with crit chance/crit damage multiplier. She still has standard crit chance, but instead of doing bonus damage it increases the slow from the Frost. It will still only apply the item burn on attacks that actually crit and apply that stronger slow, the only exception being her W which is a "cosmetic" crit that simply is there to show that her W always applies that stronger slow, but isn't actually a critical attack

  • @Flechashe

    @Flechashe

    13 күн бұрын

    No, Ashe critically strikes like any champion in the game, she simply deals no bonus damage when she crits and instead applies a stronger slow. To compensate the damage she deals bonus damage to Frosted enemies, which is further increased by crit chance and crit damage, but that doesn't mean it's a critical strike.

  • @soniclechat2825
    @soniclechat282513 күн бұрын

    so it's an on-hit effect that olny porc if the attack is a crit also for shadow flame, use it with a spell that applies on hit like WW Q

  • @sadjhin103
    @sadjhin10314 күн бұрын

    Don't forget, we're back to our original Crit Damage bonus of 225% with Infinity Edge. Yasuo and Yone, Rengar and Tryn are going to see a significant uptick in play with those items to deal with slippery enemies. Rengar and Graves are going to be utilizing this item since their crits are stronger with their usual building lethality.

  • @6athory858

    @6athory858

    13 күн бұрын

    we are not going to be using this on rengar man

  • @torahama362

    @torahama362

    13 күн бұрын

    Graves too won't be utilizing this well imo. Cause the dot stacks, the best users are the one who attack fast, even better if they use hurricane.

  • @SwoggersLOL

    @SwoggersLOL

    13 күн бұрын

    no. yas wr tanked after tempo nerfs. and ie had 225 since patch 14.6, which still didnt improve his wr. yone is still yone, so people will always win with him. I expect windshitter brother's winrate to tank since Tempo wont exist and they'll be forced to use inferior conq

  • @freshlymemed5680

    @freshlymemed5680

    13 күн бұрын

    @@SwoggersLOL Winrate is gonna tank for the people who relied on it and even then all it did was give them early game advantage. Now they have slower early game but once they get tier 2 boots its back to the same bs but this time they do even more damage.

  • @andyvirus2300

    @andyvirus2300

    13 күн бұрын

    @@freshlymemed5680even with that early game rune they were shit, so considering it is being removed, well lot of games are going to be finished before they are able to do anything

  • @frequenista
    @frequenista14 күн бұрын

    2 minutes ago lesgooo!!! The Bel interaction is crazy tho, I wonder if it will become meta for her

  • @Diamonddust1995
    @Diamonddust199511 күн бұрын

    How about Shadowflame WITH Katarina R and passive? seem like criteria is Apply on hit AND can Crit. Since the spells are already apply on hit adding "can crit" item might make it work ?

  • @patty4449
    @patty444914 күн бұрын

    7:58 Yea check out your timer in the top right corner, it counts 2-09, 2-10, 2-10, 2-11 That bug is related to the old bug of false time... The clock in the top right is the ingame time which on the regular counts a second double, during this second tons of bugs happen.... This bug has existed since season one and is yet to be fixed... Ever...

  • @balrg

    @balrg

    13 күн бұрын

    Whatt?!

  • @drinkingguy3168

    @drinkingguy3168

    13 күн бұрын

    Can't seem to google it, can you give us the name of the bug?

  • @VegetaPixel

    @VegetaPixel

    13 күн бұрын

    No? Maybe this bug exists but this sure isn't an example of it. It switches from 2:09 to 2:10 at 7:55 and 2:10 to 2:11 at 7:56.

  • @georgyhoodini325
    @georgyhoodini32512 күн бұрын

    What about yasuo E Q combo? does it apply on every target hit or just one?

  • @travisatessier
    @travisatessier12 күн бұрын

    It's always so interesting to see what does and doesn't qualify for meeting certain conditions in this game.

  • @gerjose3944
    @gerjose394412 күн бұрын

    So it’s just a twitch 4th item? (also maybe jinx) bc viego and velveth aren’t building crit

  • @pamdabeep
    @pamdabeep14 күн бұрын

    Sooooo it's just old draven passive in item form, but better. Right.

  • @Rigele100

    @Rigele100

    14 күн бұрын

    yes, at the moment i have seen this item the very first time, im instant remember the old draven passiv

  • @NikolaNiKucu
    @NikolaNiKucu13 күн бұрын

    But, did you try Galio's passive smash with it? That one can crit!

  • @renneverbright
    @renneverbright11 күн бұрын

    can Senna's Q apply the burn? I'm fairly certain it just can't crit, though the wiki says that the code just applies a basic attack to all champions hit by it, but just wanted to check

  • @amethonys2798
    @amethonys279813 күн бұрын

    "Stacking" is a bit of a misconception and I think people are getting the wrong idea down here. It is moreso not overriding previous applications so you aren't punished for applying multiple instances. Each "stack" is treated individually and independent of others.

  • @somaundead964
    @somaundead9649 күн бұрын

    a good question would be does gangplank's barrels apply them alone?

  • @crydegolem4135
    @crydegolem4135Күн бұрын

    Yun tal procs on “Basic Damage” types, usually in the form of an auto, can apply on hit effects (the 1st condition usually guarantees they already do) and it must be able to crit/ have a crit modifier. If something doesn’t apply the burn that you thought would, then that something might be a different damage type that doesn’t work, doesn’t apply on hits or isn’t capable of crits. Sourced from the LoL fandom wiki. Edit: forgot to mention that a cosmetic crit doesn’t count (it is used for clarity on damage increase due to conditions within the ability itself), similar to Karthus’ Q on single targets and which should include shaco Q.

  • @KhangTran-df1qx
    @KhangTran-df1qx12 күн бұрын

    I wanna ask, can you build IE with navori now since navori lose the damage amp

  • @dfrostbite4327
    @dfrostbite432713 күн бұрын

    I wonder if the new zephyr counts towards kalista's passive jump distance

  • @haannguyen8749
    @haannguyen874911 күн бұрын

    GP autos apply both his passive and the item passive which burn you true damage and crit damage, combine with first strike.

  • @jae7798
    @jae779814 күн бұрын

    Does ashe's passive work on this? If her target is affected by frost shot, she deals crit damage on her AAs. She can basically proc this everytime building this first.

  • @saul2416

    @saul2416

    14 күн бұрын

    You can actually tell when ashe crits. The slow is bigger when the attack crits(the font tells that too). The damage modifier is a completely different thing. What we should test is if her q works (each individual bullet) since they are considered separately by crit chance and you can pretty much garantee the bigger slow with 25 crit on every auto

  • @PinHeadSupliciumwtf

    @PinHeadSupliciumwtf

    14 күн бұрын

    Thought the same

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    These are "fake" crits. Ashe can actually critically strike but it only affects her slow so you can critically slow. I think this item will work when you critically slow someone. Otherwise it would be busted.

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@saul2416Ashe's tooltip of her Q specifically says that only the first arrow of her Q volley applies on-hit. So only the first tick of one auto will apply the burn.

  • @Frightning
    @FrightningКүн бұрын

    hmm, Akshan double autos *not* applying Yun Tal's passive seems like a bug/oversight given that it applies other on-hits twice (or is this item treated as *on attack*?)

  • @navi5324
    @navi532411 күн бұрын

    Will it work on Teemo E with shadowflame?

  • @edaxnex1560
    @edaxnex156013 күн бұрын

    Shyv empowered q applies on hit to multiple enemies. I suggest trying that out. Since if it works,you could apply this to the entire enemy team

  • @spicytunah8043

    @spicytunah8043

    11 күн бұрын

    Her Dragon form Q can only crit once, it can’t crit both times. You’re better off going with something else. The current Liandry’s build on her works just fine for this purpose.

  • @Scotch20
    @Scotch2013 күн бұрын

    Does wukong w apply the burn, and it is reduced?

  • @Zwodo
    @Zwodo13 күн бұрын

    I'm surprised we didn't get to see Aphelios' Chakrams. Or the interaction with healing reduction, which is only minor, but still. Thanks for your efforts, this was super interesting! I thought from the get-go that this item would need a hotfix buff because it's garbage, but it looks like it might have some unique use-cases. Although Bel'Veth looked a bit too insane ☠

  • @scamkick

    @scamkick

    13 күн бұрын

    Aphelios’ chakrams only apply burn once, consider it the same interaction as Zeri’s AA

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    I think Aphelios's Chakrams apply on-hit once just like the jinx rocket and sivir W did.

  • @ayas5050
    @ayas505013 күн бұрын

    what about aphelios's stacked chakram autos? or his ult?

  • @Ris4RogueYGO
    @Ris4RogueYGO12 күн бұрын

    Would this work with rek sai E?

  • @haymon05
    @haymon056 күн бұрын

    Azir with shadowflame stack yun tal passive ?

  • @KontrolYT
    @KontrolYT13 күн бұрын

    The best use I can see of it over IE is on fast attacking champs fighting tanks with thornmail and randuins, you would rely less on high damage crits that would get blocked and reflected more by thornmail and instead you could stack more damage with a burn. I could be wrong though, would have to test.

  • @HextechLab

    @HextechLab

    13 күн бұрын

    Thornmail does not reflect damage based on damage dealt anymore since quite some time.

  • @santi3256

    @santi3256

    13 күн бұрын

    Yun tal do AD damage so still the same. This item is just trash, i see only a good use on twitch and belveth (but belveth not gonna build it because crit belveth is just troll.

  • @KontrolYT

    @KontrolYT

    13 күн бұрын

    @@HextechLab I meant that it could maybe require less autos to do more damage as you could get damage off with burn instead of just auto attacks, but I'm not sure if it would actually reduce the amount of autos required because you lose the extra crit damage.

  • @KontrolYT

    @KontrolYT

    13 күн бұрын

    @@santi3256 Yes but the damage from the item doesn't crit, which is why I thought it would be better than IE against randuins because randuins reduces crit damage.

  • @santi3256

    @santi3256

    13 күн бұрын

    @@KontrolYT Well that makes sense. But still not worth the damage difference wouldnt be too much and it would only work against the champ that have randuim.

  • @caseykong158
    @caseykong15813 күн бұрын

    do stacked aphelios chakrams apply the burn? Aphelios can stack up to 20 chakrams and each one can crit.

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    Like with other adc's probably not since abilities with multiple dmg instances only apply on hit once.

  • @user-vn8wl7ch7c
    @user-vn8wl7ch7c12 күн бұрын

    does it work on aatrox q crits?

  • @slloyd9892
    @slloyd989212 күн бұрын

    Hmm wonder if Yorick's ghouls apply it? Or is it ranged on hit only?

  • @wielbladtibijski

    @wielbladtibijski

    2 күн бұрын

    ITS CRIT YOU DONKEY

  • @Lilybun
    @Lilybun14 күн бұрын

    on-attack with crit conditional. think "can this apply runaans and crit" and it's pretty easy to understand at least for ranged.

  • @hunteradams3269
    @hunteradams326913 күн бұрын

    Is this like old draven passive where on crit and q hits they would bleed?

  • @KrnKiiD
    @KrnKiiD7 күн бұрын

    What about with Gangplank passive or barrels?

  • @viket8316
    @viket831614 күн бұрын

    you forget about smolder since he transform crits into damage

  • @xaviergoulet-samoisette6023

    @xaviergoulet-samoisette6023

    11 күн бұрын

    Yeah but it's fairly clear: Smolder's Q does not crit, its damage is *increased by crit chance. So it presumably doesn't work

  • @rodrigoacha
    @rodrigoacha13 күн бұрын

    it would work with Udyr's empowered Q?

  • @Sol-gl3nl
    @Sol-gl3nl8 күн бұрын

    yasuo and yone q only apply on hit effects to first target affected, so its normal.

  • @XxHumnanxX1
    @XxHumnanxX113 күн бұрын

    what about akshan any it seems to work on him but doesnt stack on e

  • @renzjocefnavarro5001
    @renzjocefnavarro500113 күн бұрын

    yeah how about ashe with runans hurricane q active ? I'm talking about the unique interaction where ashe can attack multiple targets with runaans hurricane with q activated

  • @TukangReport
    @TukangReport4 күн бұрын

    Of all the items, even in the recent update, the damage from everything is still sick and seems to require some balancing on several items and the abilities of the champions.

  • @AlienSliker
    @AlienSliker12 күн бұрын

    So it works just like onhit. But does it mean that belveth E can oneshot just with bork?

  • @ebobab9564
    @ebobab956413 күн бұрын

    it's crazy it doesn't proc on shadowflame consdiering that in Arena you can proc hamstring/divine sunderer with abilities that crit via jeweled gauntlet

  • @TheDarkKing98XD
    @TheDarkKing98XD13 күн бұрын

    does it work on yorick e?

  • @RavenDumpster
    @RavenDumpster14 күн бұрын

    cant wait to have this and IE on lethality senna :)

  • @anthonyosei-kufuor2784
    @anthonyosei-kufuor278414 күн бұрын

    People need to understand that while it has some really strong interactions, you should realize that with these interactions it might see some play and even then it gets outshined by a good number of other crit items (Especially IE). However if it doesn't stack, the item won't see play AT ALL, since the entire appeal of it was that it stacks a lot and does a good bit of DoT as well. People screaming to get this changed should realize the implications of it. The item ceases to see any real use if it gets changed.

  • @curydude

    @curydude

    12 күн бұрын

    they should rebalance it so it doesnt rely on niche interactions to be viable and instead doesnt stack but the burn is stronger and/or doesnt need crit and on-hit to be applied

  • @dooddoingstuff

    @dooddoingstuff

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@curydude maybe it could just be an on hit, that gets increased damage when you crit? Sounds better for consistency

  • @CorpseGodX

    @CorpseGodX

    11 күн бұрын

    Nah it would be garbage if that were the case its not ment for everyone just like how some adcs go crit and others on hit it just comes down to your champions skill set

  • @anthonyosei-kufuor2784

    @anthonyosei-kufuor2784

    10 күн бұрын

    Issue is this item is made for people who do multiple crits at a time realistically, hence Belveth and Ashe being decent candidates. Other crit champs kill you with the crit they have pretty quickly. So quickly that it really isnt worth getting the itme anyways and youd rather just get IE to one shot better.

  • @firelynx1266

    @firelynx1266

    6 күн бұрын

    i mean looking at the item, it seems its riots way of adding back the missing crit dmg to adc without making them too burst heavy. Placates persons that complained about adc's losing 200% crits.

  • @va3lan992
    @va3lan9925 күн бұрын

    ty for doing that but u forget katarina r and her dagger passive (sundered sky + this item),and akali e (sundered sky + this item),with that skills both of them can proc sundered sky both of them can crit that way ,and the item can proc the yun tal passive

  • @zerikiryuin4787
    @zerikiryuin478711 күн бұрын

    So they made a Crit Adc item, That Work on half of the Adc.. But Work Greatly good For fighter Bruiser?

  • @Jiroscopio_

    @Jiroscopio_

    4 күн бұрын

    Nah the biggest abuser will be Aphelios, Bel'Veth doesn't want to go crit

  • @crydegolem4135
    @crydegolem4135Күн бұрын

    May be worth noting Ashe’s interaction with Yun Tal is still constrained by if she would hit a crit without her passive, she still won’t proc it consistently without 100% crit.

  • @my4stringsandme
    @my4stringsandme13 күн бұрын

    I was kinda hoping it would proc on shadowflame. That would lead to some entertaining builds.

  • @jinxclaessen1544
    @jinxclaessen154413 күн бұрын

    wow the item works as inteded amazing

  • @sadjhin103
    @sadjhin10314 күн бұрын

    Damn, didn't think IU'd see the day that my beloved item,Y̶u̶n̶ T̶a̶l̶ W̶i̶l̶d̶a̶r̶r̶o̶w̶s̶ Lightbringer would be back.

  • @Pigraider268

    @Pigraider268

    12 күн бұрын

    Wait what?

  • @sadjhin103

    @sadjhin103

    12 күн бұрын

    @@Pigraider268 Look it up. This new item is based off that old one.

  • @RexRagerunner
    @RexRagerunner14 күн бұрын

    Yooo, they made Draven's old passive an item!

  • @giatoannguyen8172
    @giatoannguyen817213 күн бұрын

    I was wondering if Rammus is gonna benefits from this update

  • @mzn8008
    @mzn800813 күн бұрын

    So warwick R will be broken?

  • @Flechashe
    @Flechashe13 күн бұрын

    The burn is not affected by Bel'Veth's E modifier but it IS affected by her innate 75% damage modifier on basic attacks

  • @jdwild0696
    @jdwild06968 күн бұрын

    Im gonna assume senna q would proc it but only on clicked target…?

  • @OtoriDaisuke
    @OtoriDaisuke11 күн бұрын

    So bel with yun tal+rageblade will be stupidly broken?

  • @tazotazo8969
    @tazotazo8969Күн бұрын

    wished to see if shyvannas ult q applies yun tai to every thing it hits

  • @TheWasylator
    @TheWasylator13 күн бұрын

    Wasn't Draven's original passive a bleed on crit and they changed it cause of how strong it was :thinkingemoji:

  • @bahamutzero4903
    @bahamutzero490311 күн бұрын

    Just what I want in my crit build; 50 burn damage. Wow.

  • @Cat-kv7jo
    @Cat-kv7jo8 күн бұрын

    We were blessed by gods with that garen e not applying stacks

  • @rafaelshindy4350
    @rafaelshindy435014 күн бұрын

    can it stack black cleaver passive?

  • @klydemeneses5559
    @klydemeneses555912 күн бұрын

    Aphelios' R also applies bleed

  • @accountname902
    @accountname90213 күн бұрын

    I would have liked to see if a forced crit from Shadowflame would work on abilities that apply on-hits, such as Evelynn's E, since the rule seems to be "It must both crit and apply on-hits"

  • @firelynx1266

    @firelynx1266

    6 күн бұрын

    no, it states critical attacks, so only autos. unless weird bug/interaction.

  • @accountname902

    @accountname902

    6 күн бұрын

    @@firelynx1266 right, but other abilities like belveth's e can apply it

  • @firelynx1266

    @firelynx1266

    5 күн бұрын

    @@accountname902 Belveth's E is a basic attack modifier, so she still auto attacks during E. Shadowflame is weird tho, since it does interact with IE but only on the extra dmg.

  • @igorzukow859
    @igorzukow85913 күн бұрын

    What with ashe q? And she apply it every time even with 25% crit chances cuz of her passive? To much questions

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    Nope. Her passive is a separate form of crit. She can regularly crit with no extra dmg but a critical slow which they use for the effect. Also her Q only proce on-hit once.

  • @lordmonocr6206
    @lordmonocr620614 күн бұрын

    Urgot w can’t e it anyways so that makes sense why it wouldn’t work

  • @yudoball
    @yudoball13 күн бұрын

    I wonder if it works with katarina

  • @jannikwesthues1972
    @jannikwesthues197213 күн бұрын

    love you Videos. but try to get the text langer in the Video so i can read without having to pause the Video. other than that great job once again

  • @Trashy560
    @Trashy56013 күн бұрын

    what about aatrox q?

  • @sundanser
    @sundanser11 күн бұрын

    i actually just dont get the point of this item. the burn being restricted to crits just makes it a worse infinity edge. is there some utility to it being a dot effect that im missing? seems like youd only build this on a pure ad stacker like draven to get absolute maximum damage, but even then its most likely better to get some utility instead.

  • @Jiroscopio_

    @Jiroscopio_

    4 күн бұрын

    Will be good on champs with onhit crit abilities, Aphelios will be insane with this. But very niche indeed

  • @lilliacaridadgardner6903
    @lilliacaridadgardner690313 күн бұрын

    Basically, it's Liandry's torment in ad

  • @Numan_Ozakcil..
    @Numan_Ozakcil..4 күн бұрын

    There are no fake crits from skills.Those are actually max damage from skills like Aatrox Q or Karthus Q etc and they may seem like crit but they're not.

  • @hoangdoanh2100
    @hoangdoanh210014 күн бұрын

    I think as long as its crit and apply on-hit effect then it should procs YunTal

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    That's in deed how it works. Yet Shaco and Akshan should proc it but don't for no reason other than spaghetti.

  • @KodamaVictor
    @KodamaVictor9 күн бұрын

    You forgot about Katarina’s passive and Ult, which I think are gonna be one of the most busted ones 😮

  • @-furiel2808
    @-furiel280813 күн бұрын

    Basically counted like on-hit effect

  • @gabubfmvforever
    @gabubfmvforever13 күн бұрын

    So a full crit Twitch with this item + Liandry must be fun

  • @maelstrom9727
    @maelstrom972714 күн бұрын

    Does it apply on Pantheon Q when the target is below 20%?

  • @HextechLab

    @HextechLab

    14 күн бұрын

    Haven't tested it, but Pantheon Q is only a fake (visual) crit, so it shouldn't apply the burn.

  • @markos50100

    @markos50100

    14 күн бұрын

    Unless an ability is treated like an auto attack, no ability, regardless of crits, triggers it.

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    Pantheon's q doesn't proc on-hit. So nope.

  • @samuelpaulin4710
    @samuelpaulin471013 күн бұрын

    What about ashe q ?

  • @RK99KR
    @RK99KR13 күн бұрын

    This new item with collector seems strong.

  • @kraftyevan
    @kraftyevan5 күн бұрын

    I think this will be way stronger on rengar than people think. He can go Hubris into Yun Tal + Passive AD. His AD is so extremely high it will give really strong burn

  • @ancientflean7594
    @ancientflean759414 күн бұрын

    i thought it was a new cham, i didn't recognize the camp on thumbnail

  • @SunBuddyy
    @SunBuddyyКүн бұрын

    What about Akshan E?

  • @SpielMitMirSession
    @SpielMitMirSession10 күн бұрын

    I was curious about Xayah feather hits...

  • @roohni2226
    @roohni222614 күн бұрын

    So.. we added draven’s old passive to all adcs now? The passive that was so broken it was very quickly changed. Sure it procced on his Q but the power creep on this is insane.

  • @ix_risor

    @ix_risor

    13 күн бұрын

    I mean… you have to buy it, and it gives less damage than infinity edge. On most champions, this is worse than IE, so you’re only buying it if you plan to stack them

  • @fozzyalfonso

    @fozzyalfonso

    13 күн бұрын

    @@ix_risor but it applies burn to every crit attack..... imagine jinx and her passive. heck this item is basically dravens original passive. and that was instantly changed cause of how broken it was

  • @ix_risor

    @ix_risor

    13 күн бұрын

    @@fozzyalfonso imagine that same jinx with infinity edge instead, and she would be doing more damage. Something that was broken as a champion passive is probably fine as a passive on a 3000 gold item

  • @earthsauce696
    @earthsauce69612 күн бұрын

    samira abilities like q and ult should apply it because they can crit

  • @richardcoelho
    @richardcoelho14 күн бұрын

    even riot does not know what it wants with this item... you will have to literaly watch a guide or test the item in training mode to discover if it works or not in your champion, like, usualy i read both item and abilities of a champion, and know if it works or not, but this? whats the pattern?

  • @saul2416

    @saul2416

    14 күн бұрын

    I mean, the item says "on crit attacks"... I feel most of these tests are pointless(though necessary for some possible spagueti codes). The only one i quite didnt expect as belveths e Anything that works as an auto should work on this item Or anything that gets blocked by shens w

  • @Lilybun

    @Lilybun

    14 күн бұрын

    it's a reghlar "on-attack" proc with the additional caveat that the attack also needs to be able to crit. if you don't know what "on-attack" is think runaans or statikk shiv. that's why it doesn't interact with samira.

  • @richardcoelho

    @richardcoelho

    14 күн бұрын

    @@saul2416 you may be right about the auto atacks but a lot of abilities may or may not work, also may work at the fist target or all of them or none, very very inconsistent by now.

  • @richardcoelho

    @richardcoelho

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Lilybun where does it says "on-atack"?

  • @richardcoelho

    @richardcoelho

    14 күн бұрын

    @@saul2416 whats the difference between lucian and akshan passive for exemple?

  • @jadenp2996
    @jadenp299613 күн бұрын

    You forgot about dragon form shyvana q on multiple targets

  • @TvoyKami
    @TvoyKami14 сағат бұрын

    Лайк за проделанную работу)

  • @SirCrusher
    @SirCrusher13 күн бұрын

    Does this item lock you out of infinity edge?

  • @MangaGamify
    @MangaGamify13 күн бұрын

    esport matches are the only thing that has fixing *💸*

  • @mike0612
    @mike061213 күн бұрын

    Does this work with Cait R?

  • @Stachelbeeerchen

    @Stachelbeeerchen

    13 күн бұрын

    It doesn't apply on hit and I never have seen it crit.

  • @KIN65UPER
    @KIN65UPER14 күн бұрын

    I'm glad they removed the item from ARAM and brought it here. The old look of the item is present in the arena mode, but its features are different.

  • @meetyuumi5516
    @meetyuumi551613 күн бұрын

    Udyr dot?

  • @skelet8337
    @skelet833713 күн бұрын

    Yun tal+titanic hydra bel veth seems scary

  • @dresean3725
    @dresean372511 күн бұрын

    What if it isn't guaranteed with Rengar Q and you just got REALLY lucky?

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