I’ve been using Japanese 20 years, fluent for about 15 , and you’re probably better than me with speaking! Very nice job considering I spent almost literally half my life using the language, so your methods were perfect and you should have no regrets xD

I study english the same way, i just watch netflix 6 hours a day for two years, and i can speak like the one i listened to every day😂

@Chuugokujin

9 ай бұрын

6 hours?

@RockChampEnglish

9 ай бұрын

@@Chuugokujin or 10

@Chuugokujin

9 ай бұрын

@@RockChampEnglish facepalm

@Der_Connor

9 ай бұрын

Damn, son. Your brain must be fried of watching Netflix for 6 hours. That's extreme, but also admirable. I personally wouldn't do that. How level are you? And can you read books, watch movies, and TV without any problem?

@Matti_Mattsen

9 ай бұрын

who the fuck has time to watch netflix everyday for 6 hours??

6:30 100% with you. AJATT/MIA/refold's theoretical base is Krashen's input hypothesis, meaning most of your language learning is proportional to how much you listen and read, not that much with how much you practice output. I think that's a very powerful idea, but conflating that with "outputting is harmful", is something I always found super jarring.

@southcoastinventors6583

Жыл бұрын

Has to be comprehensible input so you need to start out at 3 year old level with good deck that matches the input otherwise you get overwhelmed since we can only assimilate so much language at one time and just like kids we really should be outputting at the onset. I think this is partly why the attrition rate is so high for Japanese the other is laziness since it is a unnecessary skill if you speak English.

@futurez12

Жыл бұрын

@@southcoastinventors6583 1. Please don't "start" at a 3 year-old's level. 3 year-old natives can understand a LOT. 2. Kids don't output "from the onset", not even close. You're skipping over the 3k+ hours of input a child will get before they produce their very first word (after around 12 months). This is such a common oversight by adult language learners. We can possibly even count time in the womb as extra input received. Some adults even think they should be fully fluent speakers (at an adult level) after just 600 hours, which is without a doubt one of the biggest delusions in language learning. 3. "We can only assimulate so much language at one time." No toddler 'assimulates' all the language they hear. What happens is that they hear pieces of language throughout the day and they gradually begin to pick up what certain things mean. They still hear all the language they don't understand, and it doesn't 'overwhelm' them. In fact, I personally believe this flood of language is the key to it. If the tap never switches off, you get way more opportunities to fill your glass up. 4. The attrition rate has nothing to do with not forcing early output. It has _everything_ to do with completely unrealistic expectations.

@southcoastinventors6583

Жыл бұрын

@@futurez12 3 year old kid = simple language, talking is just another form of reinforced learning , and it easier to pick up language if most of the sentence is somewhat familiar. Also I concur that being fluent at Japanese at 600 hours is a fever dream or unrealistic exceptions and above all consistency is king.

@parasitius

Жыл бұрын

​@@southcoastinventors6583 It's so bizarre that this needs to be mentioned. Talking..reinfocing...learning. . . lol what the actual f***? people in these communities have gotten so technical and theoretical they forget about the existence of reality. Talking is the singular means of interacting and actually getting more comprehensible input, it might reinforce things but that's not the primary purpose. Actually negotiating meaning with another human being IS ITSELF a learning process. They actually respond back based on whether or not they "got" what you were trying to say. . . which is a feedback mechanism. Consider that deaf people can't speak because they can't hear their own voice - that's HOW important feedback can be to the human organism. Conversing probably has analogous critical feedback loops. This doesn't preclude a silent period or anything else as being "OK" though because we can't directly compare a child to an adult who fluently speaks some other language. The adult might not need feedback in the same way.

@IcyTorment

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, the Matt cults reject a lot of what Krashen has to say on various issues. Krashen advocates for comprehensible input only (no incomprehensible input in the background) and says output it perfectly fine and natural. He just doesn't think (unlike more recent researchers) that output increases your language ability. Krashen would probably laugh at the idea of flash cards and sentence mining.

The way u speak in Japanese is so pleasant to listen to 💕 Please do more unscripted! I’d love to see u do a mini vlog of u going to places/doing things/etc and just narrating ur thoughts in Japanese 😊

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I might be moving to Japan soon, and I'm thinking of doing a vlog or something in Japanese of that.

You and I have had opposite problems. Pretty crazy! So check this out, I started learning Japanese in 2006, and in the first 2 - 3 months I focused entirely on learning hiragana, katakana and a very basic 250 - 300 kanji. After that, I went absolutely ham on learning conversational Japanese by memorizing a ton of vocabulary, talking out loud to myself, talking all the time to anyone that could speak Japanese, and just talking and listening in conversational context. This went on for 2 years. By the end of my second year of focusing on a mixed combination of input and output, my conversational Japanese was extremely impressive to the point where I could prank call people in Japan and they couldn't tell I wasn't a foreigner based off my speaking ability. HOWEVER. My reading and writing sucked big time. You know how we learn our native language by listening and speaking and then we start reading and writing when we get to grade school? Well, I basically focused entirely on speaking and listening Japanese to the point where it felt like I was a teenager in speaking ability who was trying to learn basic elementary reading and writing. Nowadays, I have spent the last 5 months having to go back and associate kanji with the thousands of vocab that I have learned over the years through conversation, arguments, and deep thought articulating and I whole heartedly regret not putting any time or effort into studying kanji and associating vocab with kanji as I had just written most of my vocab down in hiragana and memorized it and used it in speech.

@kiuute

Жыл бұрын

What’s your native language?

@Pruflas-Watts

Жыл бұрын

@@kiuute English, but I grew up speaking a very broken Hawaiian pidgin English with some Japanese loan words and weird grammar.

@Cobbbler

Жыл бұрын

Any advice for someone who is in a similar boat? I probably know 500 or so kanji, but my reading and writing are awful compared to speaking and listening (which I rarely have problems with at all these days). Going back and learning all the kanji for the words I already "know" seems extremely daunting.

@mishidesu

Жыл бұрын

I can feel you on a spiritual level 😭 I have been studying Japanese on and off for almost a decade now. My listening and speaking is pretty good but I still suck at reading. I have yomichan and whatnot. And most of the time when I think it's a new word turns out it's a word that I already know and go "is that how it's written!?" 😅

@RaveMasterr

7 ай бұрын

It's no problem though since reading/writing are completely new sets of skills. It would be much easier now since you have vocabularies and grammar.

I definitely wasn't expecting to get this many views, so thanks to everyone who watched! Just a few things I want to say/ask: 1. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good channel name? I'd like to make some more videos about immersion learning, and I had no idea for a channel name, so I just randomly chose "me," for no better reason than I am me. But now that I know people are actually watching this, I feel like a need a better name. 2. I've received lots of nice comments regarding my Japanese ability and accent, which I appreciate, but I should probably point out that it may not be representative of my actual Japanese ability, as when I was being very careful with my speech to try and sound as good as I could when I recorded this -- not to mention I was only speaking about relatively simple, familiar topics. In an actual conversation, it's likely I'd sound a bit worse. I'm just saying this so no one gets disappointed if I upload any videos of me speaking in the future and it sounds shit haha 3. If there are any topics you would like me to discuss, or any types of videos you would like to see, please let me know. The amazing response to this video has motivated me to make some more videos.

@NatsuXVIII

Жыл бұрын

ask chat gpt

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

@@NatsuXVIII I actually did before posting that comment lol The names it gave were mostly pretty generic though. Though that's not necessarily always a bad thing I guess.

@espanol9498

Жыл бұрын

Just be careful to not be another "ajatter" who's going to be attacked online by the scum side of the japanese community. 1- A good channel name would be anything that represents not only your japanese ability but other stuff you want to do, learn blablabla 2 - Its fine, it varies depending on the day and mood too , right? 3 - Talk about how you balance out input/output ratio, be very specific and open about how much study you did before ajatt and everything

@cybr69lol

Жыл бұрын

id say "me" is already a good channel name to be honest, kind of emo but also kind of makes you unique

@jiminswriter4209

Жыл бұрын

You could call your channel ‘Learn Japanese’.

You're an inspiration! I am at the beginning of my immersion journey and it is uplifting so see someone showing the progress of 5 years of learning.

I also started learning Japanese in 2018, around February or so, and hearing your experience in the first year or so was so scary lol 😅 since I had almost the exact same start as you; it was really awesome hearing your introspective on your language learning journey and talking about how there were some pitfalls and changes in your process along the way. i also really resonate with what you said ab wishing to have practiced output/speaking sooner because i've realized recently that the gap between my passive and active vocabularies is extremely huge, and it's been taking me a lot of effort to bring my active vocabulary up to speed. Ever since the beginning of this year, i've been tryna journal and self-vlog daily to get some output practice, and ive noticed myself getting a little bit more comfortable with speaking japanese, which has been wonderful. I'm really looking forward to hearing more of your progress and i wish the best of luck to you on your language learning journey!

I was very surprised to see that this is from someone with only a hundred subscribers and a single video(which is this one). The quality and the editing is surprisingly good for a channel as small as this.

Thank you so much for this video, its very motivational to think that, if i stick to learning Japanese i might someday be able to be at your level。 がんばります！

oh, you made really good progress, I think considering your thoughts I realized how drastically approaches to fluency can differ... You practice mainly with immersion (in video form) and I practice mostly with immersion (in text form), I also tend to talk a lot. Your pronunciation sounds quite clear and it doesn't sound off, so I'd say you're doing pretty well for not practicing speaking a lot, congrats on getting so far already and good luck in the future, がんばれ~

What a video. Congratulations to you for making it to 5 Years.

Congratulations on your success! おめでとう！🎉🎉🎉

This was very interesting! Thank you for sharing!

Loved hearing your thoughts man! Great job!

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I actually saw your videos years ago haha

Your speaking abilities are unbelievable for someone who have only been doing this for 5 years. Props man! You're going places for sure :)

Your progress is definitely motivational👏🏾 I’ve been learning through immersion intensively for the last 3.5 months ish and I was able to understand most of what you said in this video! But I know I still have a long way to go.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

If you can understand most of it after 3.5 months, that's very impressive!

日本語上手って言ったらむかつくかな😂　でもほんとに上手です！🎉アクセントもとても日本人っぽくてすごいです。これからも頑張ってください～

Don't be nervous that sounded great! Japanese is difficult but it's so beautiful.

throughout my journey I always thought N1 was the highest level of Japanese, but after studying almost 2 years and passing N1 that dunning-kruger effect hits. Realising this is far, way far than what I imagined how much closer I would be to "fluency" when I became N1. I dare say being N1 is closer to a N5 level compared to being fluent in terms of time or effort between those levels. Never the matter, 千里の道も一歩から。For those reading this, just concentrate on the next step and dont overthink whats ahead. Only concentrate on the day. Day by day it piles up, and only when you look behind to the path you realise how far now is the start. Good work and good luck everyone.

This was pretty cool, thanks for sharing :)

Thank you for your video.

It sounds like you have made excellent progress. I think you have found the right balance of learning methods for you. I wish I had this kind of information when I was taking classes in college and learning very little. Thailand is probably my favorite of all the places I have been to. Thai language is very hard, but remember the techniques you used for Japanese will work for any language.

Mad first video, hope for more!

Idk how exactly ive been studying but i think for nearly a year , and i could understand really basic words in your speech but i hope one day i speak fluently. I think your channel is really cool i also think u deserve more subs tbh

Your approach towards japanese inspires me to pursue my goal with english.

日本語の学習を聞いて共感となります。実は、私も日本に留学した頃、日常生活でも日本語に取り巻く環境をつくって自習していたんです。N1を取得したものの、何となくまだ勉強が足りないかなとたまにそう感じています。私は今タイに戻った上で実家に住んでいますが、日本語を活かせる機会が殆どありません。とはいえ日本にいた頃と同じによに勉強をするようにしています。自分もいつか日本にまた戻れるととしたらいいなって願っています。頑張りましょう。ちなみに、タイにようこそ！！ここで時間を楽しく送って下さい。　この動画が偶然見つかってよかったです。

Yes. I have been in Japan for 17+ years and speaking fluently is usually the highest hurdle for learners with a English/single language upbringing. I know quite a few people who stuggled with this, even though they had passed N1 (myself included). If you dont force yourself to speak or arent put into an environment where you have to speak Japanese, even though you know what you want to sayd and how it might be said, the switch over and the flow of words doesn't exactly come out naturally. Particularly when you're trying to speak regarding topics with which you're not so familiar, or if it's not casual Japanese and you need to use more polite or have a business-minded nuance in the conversation. If you're not in Japan, try to find someone or some service online and talk with someone or a teacher who is fluent. Don't waste time with someone who's gonna say "Oh. Nihongo Jouzu." No. Ask if thry can actually criticize and correct you.

@southcoastinventors6583

Жыл бұрын

N1 is overrated so much of the vocab not even used that much I think Japanese are big jokers.

@leor1532

Жыл бұрын

@@southcoastinventors6583 It depends on how you interact with the language. I read novels and N1 vocab and higher are all really common.

@southcoastinventors6583

Жыл бұрын

@@leor1532 JLPT are used as gauge by the Japanese they should reflect business and daily communication as in the most common and each level should delineate different levels of understanding the most commonly used Japanese. It doesn't reflect that and don't even get me started on the lack of a speaking portion that just sad.

That park gave me nostalgic feeling, I am Thai but been away for awhile. I am also learning Japanese in my free time as well. Thanks for sharing the experience

I like the way you speak Japanese, very soft and calm:)

Wow, massive respect to you, the amount of hours you put in over a sustained period of time- even if some of it passively - is truly impressive. Certainly puts some of these other unrealistic language videos into perspective. I can’t judge your Japanese but it sounded good!

@theimmersionguy

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! I think putting in the time over an extended period is the most important thing. Not everyone has to go hardcore.

i could understand 95% of that last bit in Japanese and I'm getting a sudden burst of motivation now

I agree with you on output. Immersion is far more useful and output can catch up, but you still need to produce the language and talking is a great way of pinpointing where your shortcomings are.

Very nice video!

It's interesting that you had trouble listening even when you were able to read basic content. For me the hardest thing has been dealing with the grammar. For words I don't already have memorized I can just use a popup dictionary. But the grammar stuff was a huge pain. So far, I haven't really even been trying to work on my listening skills, but I do notice that it's pretty easy for me to notice the words being used when I listen with subtitles in Japanese - and I'll be able to hear a lot of the words even when I'm watching anime with english subs now.

I remember and used to love the ajatt blog

6:30 At last, someone said it. Thank you! Well done anyway. I wish I was there already.

I would like to say thank you for posting this video and giving more realistic expectations of learning the language. I started studying Japanese a year ago, in my final year of University lol. Needless to say I tried to study a lot but I couldnt as much as I wanted as I focused hard on my uni studies (which paid off as I secured a first class degree). And I probably didnt use my japanese study time as effectively as I could have (lots of textbooks) But now my reading ability is around N4-low N3 (minus the kanji, I am a bit behind on that) and I am in a similar position to what you were at the start of your immersion. My listening is dreadful, I can listen to like beginner level japanese but I cant understand speech thats at the same level of my reading. Its nice to hear that you immersed a reasonable amount (just a couple of hours background a day) and advanced so quickly in just a few months. A lot of immersion content creators are like 8+ hours a day. Considering I am starting a full time job soon I will probably only be able to get in a couple hours of background a day (and maybe a couple of focused a day). I am excited to start immersion and I hope to be somewhat competent before I hopefully move to Japan next year to teach english. I am at least hoping to be in a position where I can begin to advance quickly when I am out there. But seriously, thank you for making this video. A lot of immersion youtubers like Matt vs Japan set up unrealistic expectations of how much you can immerse in a day (like seriously you must be unemployed or have no social life to do 8-12 hours a day) which is demotivating for people with not as much time. Also thank you for calling out the idea of no speaking. Not speaking for years will not help your speaking ability, you have to practice your speaking. It doesnt matter if it gives you an accent, I think that the Japanese lang community is unhealthily obsessed with the idea of speaking like a native unlike any other lang community. I interact with people with foreign accents in english nearly every day and it doesnt bother me one bit.

@theimmersionguy

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed. the points you made are actually some of the main reasons I decided to start making videos.

This is a well done journey... And the video itself is also pretty amazing... I hope to learn Japanese to fluency soon...

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad someone found it interesting!

@Zach-rt9kg

Жыл бұрын

Great video, love seeing the progression of people. It motivates me to continue going as it shows what I can do

Good shit man I agree with the speaking part. Imo if you are easily monolingual and have basic pitch accent awareness/hearing ability speaking is fine (as long as you know you aren't fluent and try to find mistakes). I like to record my conversations and listen back to it to see where I mess up.

Good job !

日本人ですが、発音と言葉運びがネイティブレベルで上手いです！今まで聞いた日本語学習者の中で一番上手いかも。日本語教師をやっているので、更に具体的にどんな勉強をしたかとかもっと聞いてみたいです。 8:52 ここ、「撮ってる」でも大丈夫ですよ。英語だと過去形のほうが自然だと思いますが、「映像の中で、過去の私はこの映像を今撮っている」というふうに解釈できるので現在形で問題ないです(わかりづらかったらすみません)

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

ありがとうございます！！勉強になります。 これからも動画を作りもっと具体的に話すつもりですが、どんな勉強をしたか一言で表すとimmersionですね、つまり毎日たくさんの日本語を聞いて読んで、それを数年間続けたわけです。

@danielantony1882

Жыл бұрын

@@theimmersionguy My Japanese is complete trash but I was somehow able to read and understand boþ your reply on 90% and 100% of your Japanese in ðis video. What ðe hell is going on wið me? Am I learning? I'm not even putting active effort in it.

@UzumakiHarutoJP

Жыл бұрын

ここにも見るは良かった、だいすけさん

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

@@danielantony1882 Sorry for the late reply, but if you can understand without putting in active effort that's actually great! It means you're acquiring the language very naturally. Just keep reading and listening.

@ZeroRelevance

8 ай бұрын

@@danielantony1882I tend to find that listening to native Western language speakers speaking Japanese is far more comprehensible than listening to actual native Japanese speakers, even if those native foreign speakers are basically fluent in Japanese too. I think it’s just a product of the way we culturally think about speech being more aligned, so there is less effort needed to process it. I first realised it when listening to Finnish KZreadr ヘルスカ, their channel’s videos have a similar effect.

1:35 That's exactly me of my English now.... I am a Japanese speaker but I learnd from you a lot

Dude, your Japanese is amazing. Just keep it going. From Japanese guy who does the same thing in English.

Great job! I lived in Japan as an exchange student years ago and have mostly tried to keep it up but I know my vocab is still not at an N1 level for instance. I soind fluent at first, but dig a little and you'd realise my limitations. I recently visited Bangkok and I'm thinking of moving to Thailand for a couple of years to make films, so I've been using the Thai immersion Channel on KZread. I will be checking out AJATT! Thanks for the tip. That way i can just add words, and when i go to learn some Kanji, hopefully it will fill in blanks! Would be cool to meet next time I'm in Thailand later this year!! マジでよかったよ。緊張しないように 日本人の友達を探してね。俺は1年間 日本に住んでてもMeさんはもっとペラペラだよ!日本に住む夢を大事にして、あきらめないで。いつかに合うおよ。

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Unfortunately I'm not living in Thailand anymore though haha

I'm also a 5-year AJATTer, but I've only studied approximately 75% of that time due do being an engineering student. I went into this because 1. it's the hardest language to learn 2. I'm quarter-Japanese 3. it thought it might be valuable for an engineer. My speaking and pronunciation is very similar to yours; I'm currently at 10600 words in morphman, but my actual vocab is around 13000 words. 2018- I wasted 4 months on RTK before I learned any real Japanese. While I was doing RTK I listened to a lot of Terrace House although I had no idea what anyone was saying. I'm not really into anime so I was just straight up going through every drama that was available on Netflix. 2019- Basically studied up to N3 vocab, started N2 vocab; grammar was still rough and relied on deepl to help translate most complex messages to my new friends on Hellotalk. 2020- N3 vocab fully done and matured, started N2 vocab; still haven't really bothered to sentence mine native content because it would be way too much; still listening to dramas, could fully understand like 50% of everything. *fully understand as in comfortably listen and be able to understand everything being implied and the words being said. 2021- Finished up N2, Started N1; studying started slowing down at the end of 2021 because of my major ripping my a**hole a new one. Started speaking; couldn't conjugate on the fly; my brain wanted to use high-level vocab all the time. Reading basic texts was easy; novels are still too hard; native news is still too hard/ time consuming to be worth it. 2022- Started hammering grammar; half-way through N1; college major still gapping me; took many weeks off due to burnout and mental overload from school; Picked the pace back up during summer vacation; News became a lot easier with N1 vocab and grammar. Started being able to sentence mine i+1 from native content. 2023- Went to Japan for the first time, was able to communicate most of the time; I was really intimidated most of the time and let my girlfriend do most of the talking (japanese native), being with a Japanese person the whole time, every person would rather talk to her than me anyways(no one would make eye contact with me or believed that I knew what they were saying); Met her family and was able to hold conversations fairly well; 2024- I'm talking the JLPT N1 in July; I graduate in the Winter of 2025 and who knows if I'll go to Japan. Overall, 100% worth it, even if I don't become a master at the language; met a beautiful woman who I plan on making my wife, and I got in touch with my Japanese heritage slightly. Very impressed with the fact you were able to get N1 after just started japanese a year prior. That's an insane amount of information to internalize that short amount of time. I feel like everyone who studies Japanese and posts to internet fall into two categories: 1. The person who can't memorize hiragana or 2. the genius people who have unwavering attention-span, bulletproof memory, and copious amount of time to studying nothing but japanese all day long. edit: I guess you don't need 100% to pass N1, I guess that's where my perfectionist holds me back, but still being able to pass N1 listening (without a few lucky guesses) only after 1 year is very impressive.

Nice shot of Benjakiti park in Bangkok Thailand

So in 2018 when you began the immersion method, was the content mostly audio like podcasts or audio and visual such as videos? What was the ratio between the two? Did you ever try to understand by focusing and paying attention, or did you just let the content flow in the background? And, if you could learn Japanese all over again, at what point(hours total) do you think you would have begun speaking? I'm thinking on doing the same method with Spanish, but am worried I risk losing valuable time if nothing comes out of the method, so I want to make sure I've considered all possible outcomes. You clearly did well though. I used to study Japanese and yours is exactly how I would have wanted it.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

I would watch KZread or shows sometimes, but most of it was just audio like podcasts or KZread videos in the background. I didn't pay a lot of attention or concentrate - in fact, most of my listening in 2018 would probably be considered semi-"passive." I probably wouldn't have improved so fast were it not for my reading ability at that time.

It's awesome to see how well you can speak in Japanese! I've been learning with Refold since April 2021, and it was so cool to understand 95%+ of what you were saying in Japanese. 6:10 I still have this output phobia. My question to you is, when did you start speaking/decide it was right for you to speak? I'm using Refold's standards on speaking but they say that you have to "100% understand your language parent." For me, I can understand my language parent around 80-95%. However, I feel as if I'll only live to regret not speaking if I don't start now.

@theimmersionguy

7 ай бұрын

I didn't start speaking somewhat regularly (maybe a few times a month) until late 2021, but I wish I had started sooner because I feel like I would be better now if I had've. I'd probably just recommend starting when you feel like sentences start popping up in your mind, even if it's really basic at first.

@katori_edits

7 ай бұрын

​@@theimmersionguy Guess I'm ready to speak then :). Thanks for the response.

I started learning japanese about a month ago and so far ive been having a lot of fun with it It feels fresh to learn a third language and feel excited for it I still have A LONG way to go but im having a lot of fun, i do know that ill frustrate myself in the future with it but ill also feel proud of myself just like what happened when i got fluent in english Gotta learn those damn kanjis and other stuff too Anyways, i hope ill be able to understand this video fully without subtitles someday

@crobatgaming5661

Жыл бұрын

How's your progress?

シェアありがとうございます。私も日本語勉強して頑張ているので、この動画にはげまされますね。最後の日本語の分をわかたっらうれしくなりました。私もRefoldを尊敬しますがもっと話すのが早く練習した方がいいと思います。

You can tell from the intro you reached fluency. You really sound like a native Japanese speaker.

. I agree with you on the "speaking" aspect, and I have concluded that even at the beginning, 20% of output reinforces the input, while at a more advanced level, 40% of output is more effective for me. I've never seen anyone who magically starts speaking perfectly after 1,000, 2,000, or 3,000 hours of input. Pronunciation and accent are aspects that can always be improved, especially through active and specific work, particularly when one already speaks fluently.

素敵な日本語だと思いますよ！僕も日本語学習者なので自然に聞こえると言ってもなんの意味もないかもしれませんが、Meさんの日本語がすごく聞きやすいと思います。これからも頑張ってください。

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

学習者だから意味がないってことはないですよ！褒めてくれて嬉しいです。お互いに頑張りましょう！

Hi there, great video. I'm 1 year into my learning journey with immersion (3-4 hours/day). Did you do any pitch-accent practise? How did you tackle that topic? Also: How comprehensible was your input most of the time? I have big problems without japanese subtitles. Like the news are most of the time just gibberish.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

I plan to do a video about pitch accent, but basically I never studied any rules about pitch accent, but I did train myself to hear it (I'll go into details in the video, and it should be out within the next few months). When I first started, it was hardly comprehensible at all, but the more I listened, the more it made sense. Also, natural conversations between 2 or more people took so much longer to understand than one person speaking about a particular topic.

I find your journey to be very motivational. Even with set backs you continued to stay the path and reach some pretty impressive levels of proficiency. I'm very curious, if you were to start from scratch all over again... How would you roadmap your Japanese learning as a beginner? example: step 1 kana, step 2 RTK, so on? Also when you're at the very beginning of learning with no foundation, what do you even use for input while trying to immerse? It seems like you would want to start with baby shows haha. This is getting long winded, but I'd love from a response from OP or any others who know these answers.

@theimmersionguy

9 ай бұрын

If I did it again, I would definitely try to focus on listening first, and gain a good understanding of everyday conversation before moving on to reading and writing (I'm not necessarily suggesting other people should do this too though). Then after that I would learn to read probably by learning Kana first, then the Kanji contextually through the words I already understand. A quick search shows me that there are some comprehensible input Japanese learning channels which weren't around when I started, so I would definitely utilise those.

This is super interesting! I have a question though - did you continue studying the language outside of immersion or did you exclusively rely on immersion?

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

After I started immersion, almost all of the actual study I did was look up unknown words sometimes while reading and listening. There were also two brief periods when I used flash cards to learn to write kanji by hand (which I've totally forgotten how to do now) and to learn to read the most common Japanese names.

Great recap! Where did you find the materials you chose to immerse with, and what do you think are some of the best sources?

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Usually I just look for topics I'm interested in or want to learn about on KZread and in podcast apps. If, like me, you like watching Japanese films, I'd recommend signing up with U-Next, as the content library is massive. But Netflix JP and Amazon Prime JP are good too.

@robertyang6568

Жыл бұрын

@@theimmersionguy thanks! i’ll check these out

I'm already in Japan and my University offers free Japanese classes that I am currently enrolled in. But I don't like their grammar-focused method and I'm thinking of dropping out and going the Stephen Krashen's way of immersion and comprehensible input. English is my second language and immersion is how I became fluent in it. In my experience, think it's better to focus on speaking through imitation from the start to get a hang of speech, and not wait till the end.

Your video just come to me and im seeing but i dont want learn japonese yet at all, but I'm trying learn English and its so hard to me all these skills writing, speaking and read it's more easier to me anyway your voice is so good to hear and looks like differen when you speak in Japonese (Good too)

日本語話してるシーンだけ見たら外国人ってマジで気づかないと思う笑 　発音､イントネーション､間の取り方､話の進め方､繋ぎの言葉選び､謙遜のしかた…例を挙げたらキリがないけど､マジで日本人みたいですわぁ(褒め言葉) 　日本人としては､日本語(or日本の文化)に興味を持っててもらえるだけで嬉しい限りなので､モチベの続く限りこれからも日本語学習頑張って下さいね！📖👍

Thanks for introducing me to AJATT. I'm beginning my journey. I'll return here in 3 years and a half (December 2026) and tell you how much I evolved. Moreover, where is this place? Beautiful spot! Kind regards! Keep going!

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Good luck! I look forward to hearing how it turns out. The place in the video is Benchakitti Park in Bangkok, Thailand.

listening immersion helps so much. youtube podcasts and anime have helped so much, but i don't speak enough for much of it to stick. i can follow along w conversational flow but my comprehension is...eh. 😂 i should do it more to supplement my jp studies now that summer break started (im american)

Did you look up words a lot and study grammar occasionally while immersing? Were you analyzing the language every now and then or just absorbing it 100% without trying to think about what you were hearing. How many hours in total would you say your total input time was. Around 1000 hrs? Sorry for this questions as I am really curious since I'm on my own journey right now but with Spanish. I plan to delay speaking for a lengthy amount of time as well so it was very surprising to hear you can't speak great even after what seems like a shit ton of listening. Good video btw.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

I looked up plenty of words, but there were certain words I made a point of not to look up at all (as a sort of experiment to see how long it would take to understand them naturally). I read through some grammar the first week I started learning Japanese, but didn't touch it again after that. I didn't try to translate the language in my head at all (except for a brief period when I was a beginner learning with parallel translations), but I analysed the language in the sense that I was always trying to convert the sounds I was hearing into Japanese letters (kana) in my head, and I would often deliberately try to recall the meaning of the words I heard/saw. I actually regret doing this, as I feel like it's hindered my ability in the long run, and this past year I've been trying to train myself to listen to Japanese like my native language -- without all the "noise" getting in the way -- but it's a hard habit to break. I plan to eventually make a video elaborating on my reasons for thinking this. I'm honestly not sure how many hours I put in, but it was definitely more than 1000. Probably a few thousand over the years.

@jamesmccloud7535

Жыл бұрын

@@theimmersionguy Thanks for your answers! I appreciate it.

普通に日本人の若者がしゃべっているようにしか聞こえない。すごく自然です。素晴らしい。

You provided a lot of wonderful detail in the video, but I feel like you left off the most critical thing! When you started listening, was your vocab 200, 500, 1000, 5000 words? And was the stuff you listened to at a level where you could easily understand if you read the transcript, or was it lightyears ahead of what you could even read at that point? Did you fuss a lot about always choosing the easiest listening material you could find so as to achieve i+1? Would you put in hours with materials if you could only understand 0 - 10%? Or would you demand most of your materials be understandable at at least 30%, 50%, 70%?

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, it's hard to tell, but I probably knew a few thousand words. When I started immersion in 2018, most of the stuff was high-level and largely incomprehensible - podcasts, KZread and the like. After a few months, they started becoming much more comprehensible.

Thank you for this video. I'd like to know what your opinion is on reading books in one's native language since you said you read a lot of books in English. I think that could surprisingly boost your language learning skills because it maintains a strong linguistic foundation even if it isn't in your target language. In my opinion it's good to incorporate that into a well rounded method, even if it sounds counterproductive.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

The point you made about reading in your native language possibly boosting language learning skills is interesting, and one I hadn't considered before... For me, it was mainly because there were certain things I wanted to read about that I couldn't find in Japanese, and I didn't want my English to deteriorate too heavily. Also, it's nice to have a break from immersion every so often. I actually found, strangely enough, that my Japanese comprehension was a lot higher after I'd come back to it after a break.

Whatever happened to the AJATT blog that you maintained, talking about basically the same thing as in this KZread video, that you were maintaining some 15 years ago? I did learn a lot from that blog.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man, that was me, decided to take a long break from the blog after all the scam controversies... Also, I did a Michael Jackson and became white.

6:08 I never understood the idea of "output" phobia among language learning community when you have to wait years or hundreds \ thousands of hours before actually starting outputting. It's probably the biggest and most harmful misconception ever. I never understood it and I'm sure as hell I won't do it. I'm surprised that so many people believe and follow it so strictly. You've made a really good point about it in the video and more people should hear it.

@JacobRy

Жыл бұрын

I guess the thinking is so you don't hear yourself speaking poorly, but if you outweigh it with a ton of input and when you do output actively focus on stuff like pronunciation, I think it works fine. I agree that theres a really strong idea to not output at all which doesn't make much sense

@poego6045

Жыл бұрын

Output is good for sure, though I think it should reflect your level of immersion. Like, treat it like you would a kid would. If you're only able to successfully immerse to the level of a 1st/2nd grade textbook, then do the same with your speech. Don't care about sentence structure. Talk like a child would, in terms of just speaking the words you know are good in the situation, in the way you know they work. I think the problem with a lot of language output is that people just reform their native language in their head, even if you utilize words that aren't actually common in said new language. (this is if you wanna sound native, not if you just want to communicate. Eventually, you start to just know what phrases are real and useful, what sentence and word structures are used commonly, and what aren't. This is especially good with Japanese considering how a lot of the time, sentences are truncated if context allows people to understand from one/2 word sentences/replies.

@NewbieFirst

8 ай бұрын

I would say, the ideal time to start outputting is when you start to think in that language directly, without the need to calque your other languages, and for speaking specifically the crucial part is having enough listening comprehension as well as thinking fluency, i.e. the ability to play the conversation in your head with the correct pronunciation in real time, this way you will only need to focus on recreating articulation and prosody.

I wanted to understand more about your starting point: After discovering AJATT, you said you read remembering the kanji and did many sentence cards on Anki, but how many of them did u study in order to start immersing? Like I'm around 1300 now so that's why I'm asking. Also, right now the AJATT site doesn't have contents anymore so I was wondering if it contained materials (like grammar lessons or stuff like that) or if it was just an explanation of the method (which I basically understood and think it's really great, so I want to try it). Anyway very good and inspiring video! ありがとうございます

@theimmersionguy

9 ай бұрын

The timeline is a bit confusing, but I actually did RTK and sentence cards before I started immersion, and I already had basic reading comprehension by the time I started immersion in 2018. You can still actually view the original AJATT site if you use the Wayback Machine, but it never had any actual lessons. It was mainly explanations/philosophies of the method and motivational articles. I still thinks it's worth reading through the table of contents if you get a chance, there's some real good stuff in there.

whoa, you sound so native its insane xD

how many anki cards did you reach in 2018 and did you continue using anki from 2018 onwards? if so how many cards are you at today? i've used anki on and off for years and reached about 5k words but who knows how many i've forgotten. I'm at the point now where I cannot use anki anymore or else i'll quit japanese altogether but i'm also worried that immersion with japnese subtitles wont be enough to become fluent in reading over a few years.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

I actually did Anki before I started immersion, and I must have had a few thousand cards. By the time I started immersion in 2018, I had pretty much stopped using Anki completely.

え〜日本人じゃないの❓ってレベルぐらい上手です🙌I really thought you were a native Japanese speaker‼️

@theimmersionguy

4 ай бұрын

Thank you😊

サムネは蓮實でしょうか。(違ってたらごめんなさい)。 日本語学習者の上級者や超上級者は日本語の映画評論の本を読むのがかなり効果的な勉強法だと思います。日本好きや日本語好きの外国人の方は日本映画が好きなことが多いので映画も見ながら、それを言語化して評論している映画評論は娯楽としても楽しめるでしょうし、また一筋縄では行かない文章で書かれているので上級者が日本語を鍛えるのに最適の文章素材です。 投稿主の日本語(スピーキング)に関して。 かなり上手いです。 この限られた時間の日本語では厳密には判断できませんがmattさんに準ずるかそれに近いものを感じます。この部分はmattさんより上手いのではないかという瞬間もありました。 以下、揚げ足取りにも近くなりますが、おそらくこれらの指摘にもついて来られるレベルの方だと思われるので敢えて細かいことを書きます。 冒頭：「いきなりですが」。発音、発声はネイティブ同等と言えるくらい綺麗です。ピッチアクセントも明確にずれているというわけでもないのですが、微妙におかしいです。ただ、かなり微妙な域で、日本人でもどこかの地方出身の人が言いそうな様にも聞こえるし、しかしやはり少し外国人の匂いがあるのも事実です。 8:14：「人前で話すのはねぇ」。 「人前で話す」と言うと、私の感覚では実際に物理的に目の前にそれなりの人数の人がいるイメージの言葉です。投稿主さんはこれを話している時は目の前にはその聴衆はいないので若干の違和感が残ります。言いたいことは十分伝わります。 8:03：「ちょっと緊張してるんですけど」 8:30：「既に気づいたと思いますけど」 8:40：「実はね、今タイに住んでて」 これらに関してはまた若干ですが全て発音です。初めに、「緊張」のチャチュチョのチの成分が薄くて「キンショウ」っぽく聞こえます。次ですが、「気づいた」が「きじゅいた」っぽくなっています。「づ」が「じゅ/ぢゅ」になっています。最後に「実はね」が若干ですが「じちゅはね」もしくは「じゅちゅはね」のように聞こえます。 これらから、おそらく「つ」「づ」の発音が若干ですが、日本語の自然な速度感で話そうとすると舌が付いてこれず不明瞭になっているかと思われます。 しかしながら興味深いのは上記の3点は、いかにも典型的な外国人話者のズレ方とは一味違ったズレをなぞっているということです。投稿主さんの日本語は明らかに日本語の速度感やリズムを強く意識しています。日本語母語話者が日本語を話す際の一文字一文字の微妙に異なる長さ、または短さ、この重要さにおそらく投稿主さんは気づいていてこれへの意識が感じられます。0:18の「話してる人けっこういるじゃないですか」のリズム感などが特に顕著です。つまり上記3点の微妙な発音のズレは、日本語母語話者のリズム感や一文字の長さ/短さを精緻になぞろうという取組みにより生じたもので、かなり高レベルな発音のズレと言えて、興味深い現象です。 8:50：「この映像を撮ってるんですけど、撮ってたんですけど」。 他の方も仰っていますが、これはこの状況で言うとどちらでも大丈夫です。むしろ「撮ってるんですけど」のほうがここでは自然かと思えるくらいです。どちらでもいいと言っても当然ですが両者は同じ意味というわけではありません。 ここで「撮ってるんですけど」とした場合、今ここで我々が見ている映像に関しての客観的な視点からの説明になります。つまりここでの「撮ってる」は現在形というより客観形とでも言ったらいいのでしょう。 また「撮ってたんですけど」とした場合、話し手がこの映像撮影時の日時について焦点を置いて話したい場合はそうなると思います。つまりここでは言葉の使い方としては両方ともあり得ます。 9:27：「ここ何ヶ月間、英語の先生やってて」。 今回の動画で唯一明瞭な間違いたる間違いと言えるのはここです。その他の上記は粗探しとも言える高レベルなものでしたが、これに関しては完全に間違いです。 正解は「ここ何ヶ月間か、英語の先生やってて」ですね。蛇足ですが、映像の音声に即してここでは「、」を入れましたが文章なら「ここ何ヶ月間か英語の先生をやってて」と「、」無しで書いたほうがいいですが。 というわけで、とにかく「何ヶ月間か英語の先生やってて」が正解です。「か」が入ります。ややこしいと思われるかもしれませんが日本語母語話者は絶対に間違わない箇所です。逆に外国人の方はここでよく間違ってるのを見ます。 ここで同じような意味の文章として「数ヶ月間英語の先生やってて」というのがあります。これだと「か」が入りません。もしかするとこれがややこしくて混同してしまうのかもしれません。 以上、だいぶ意地悪にネチネチ書きましたが相当に高レベルです。私の持論で英語母語話者は日本語が苦手という偏見があるのですが、そうして油断していると時々かなりのレベルの人がいたりするというのも面白いところです。

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

さすが映画評論書だと分かりましたね！サムネは日本映画史110年という本です。実は日本語を勉強する前から映画好きだったんで日本映画も当然ながら好きです。 細かいところまで全部指摘して書いてくれてありがとうございます！発音や文法のミスなど、自分ではなかなか気づきにくいですし、非常に勉強になります。特に9:27に関しては、間違っているということは全く知りませんでした。

@pahoopahoo

Жыл бұрын

その新書は昔持ってましたが、どこかに行っちゃいました。四方田さんのですね。 だいぶ厳し目に書きましたが、純粋に逐次ネイティブに聞こえるか否かを書いたまででそれ以外の意図はありません。気を悪くされたらお許しください。 何ヶ月間と数ヶ月間(単位は何だっていい、何個、数個、何冊、数冊、等々)の微妙な違いは外国人の方には難しいと思われますが、日本人は絶対間違わない箇所で、且つ外国人の方は上級者でも時々間違えるので結構目立ちます。 例)何冊かの本を読んだ。≒数冊の本を読んだ。 疑問文の場合、ちょっと複雑になります。 外国人の方の場合「何冊かの本を読みましたか？」という文章を作りそうですが、意味は通じますが非常に外国語っぽい日本語です。 日本人ならここでは「の」は入れずに「何冊か本を読みましたか？」となります。 しかし「何冊本を読みましたか？」という文章もあります。 何冊か本を読みましたか？＝Have you read some books? 何冊本を読みましたか？＝How many books have you read? で「か」という一文字が入るかどうかで意味がまるで変わります。これ以上はお知り合いの日本人に尋ねてください。失礼しました。

As someone who may share the same path as you, I’d say don’t wait for something good to happen. If you can teach English in Thai, why can’t you teach here? You also have JLPT N1 certification and that counts a lot, believe me. You can try to apply from there, I’m positive you’ll get opportunities. If you need any help where to start, etc., let me know. Best of luck!

Have you studied pitch accent or grammar . Lately think if i should learn something in these fields .(2.5 yers , can read to somewhat news in paper and speak to convey my thoughts but dont consider myself in any degree good in it)

@theimmersionguy

10 ай бұрын

I never "studied" pitch accent, but I did train myself to hear it (I plan to do a video about this in the near future). As for grammar, I went through Tae Kim's grammar guide when I first started, but besides that I didn't do any and most of the grammar I know and use comes from immersion.

Bro your Japanese is so fucken good. Better pronunciation than mine. lol, i wanna interview you. This is amazing.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I dunno if it's as good as you say though aha Love the videos by the way!

Hey I just wanna ask upon seeing this video, that where, if you would like to tell the video was recorded, I'm just seeking some places like this for running. Thank you!.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Benchakitti Park in Bangkok, Thailand.

do you think you are good at pitch accent? ive been trying to learn words not only based off reading them but also hearing so i get good pitch accent and intonation, are there any tips?

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

I think I'm okay, since these days I get compliments on the naturalness of my intonation from Japanese people sometimes, whereas before (1.5+ years ago) I was told my intonation sounded foreign. For pitch accent, I never learnt any rules, but I trained myself to hear it. I plan to make a video about this sometime soon.

@pifworld_

Жыл бұрын

@@theimmersionguy ooh awesomeness i cant wait to see!!

Man your pitch accent is so good.What did you immerse reading wise in the begining(novels manga etc)

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It was a long time ago so it's hard to recall, but I remember practising with parallel-texts, then easy short stories, then I eventually began trying my hand at easy novels.

@neight227

Жыл бұрын

Nice

Impressed but I have to ask. You mention listening and studying for sometimes as much as 4-5 hours a day. Were you working at this time in your life? I have a full time job and that much time spent studying seems impossible to me personally.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

I was a university student and wasn't working at that time. 4-5 hours would definitely be harder for someone working full-time, but depending on factors like commitments outside of work and work hours etc. it could be possible I think.

You passed the N1 after only one year of study? how did you study grammar and vocab, what do you think were the most important things u did that allowed you to pass N1 so quick

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

I plan to make a video about this sometime in the near future, but in a nutshell, I think the most important thing for me was reading a lot. But that's for passing the JLPT specifically, and not for speaking and overall language ability.

Hey, great job! Do you mind asking if you adopted Haruka from Next Step Japanese? Your speaking reeeeealy reminds me of her, and you sound great btw =) Keep it up

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! No, I didn't know who she is, but I looked her up, and she too seems to have a habit of ending every other sentence with "hai," which is probably why my I reminded you of her lol

i struggle with listening the most as well

your pitch accent is really good, so how you could improve it to this level in spite u said I didn't speak early.!

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I do speak sometimes with some people I know from Hellotalk (and I have been for the past 1.5 years like I said in the video). And I had some Japanese colleagues at my previous job, which allowed me a bit of speaking practice from time to time.

As a Japanese person, every time I see people who had to gave up studying in Japan because of the pandemic, it really hurts Your Japanese is much smoother than Japanese spoken by shy Japanese lol

@AJGress

Жыл бұрын

How's his accent and pitch? Just curious

@neight227

Жыл бұрын

Im also curious about that since i cant notice any mistakes

@kimchi2093

7 ай бұрын

+1 here, the reason why I ask is because Refold heavily emphasizes no output in the beginning because it’ll cause accents. Does he sound like a native in terms of accent/better than other language learners?

Great breakdown, what city is this video in??

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

It's in Bangkok, Thailand.

just curious since this method comes up so often when i look around online, where did you START with japanese that got you to understand even basic words?

@theimmersionguy

7 ай бұрын

I used RTK to recognise the kanji, then I used Anki to memorise words. After that, I bought a book of Japanese short stories with parallel English translations and used that to try and learn to read, and I also used articles on the internet to practise reading. This is why I could read okay by the time I started immersion, but I couldn't understand spoken Japanese.

How long did it take for you to learn kanji though? Also did you learn kanji or vocabulary first? That part i feel like has to take the most time and effort

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

I learnt Kanji first with "Remembering the Kanji." I can't remember how long it took me, but it would've definitely been more than a month. Also, when I used Remembering the Kanji, I didn't practise writing, only recognition of the Kanji, so that sped up the process quite a bit.

@pizzaapplepie1338

Жыл бұрын

@@theimmersionguy i see, thanks!

そうだよねえ。私にとっても何かを表現する時に言葉は単純に出っていない。まあ、頑張りましょう！MEさんの日本語はなんかいいですね。

What are some KZread channels you would listen to? Thanks for the video!

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Some channels I used to really like are サラタメさん (book reviews), Nakata University (various), Coten Radio (history), and the 映画塾 videos from Wowow Official (film and television).

What japanese podcasts do you recommend? I have a hard time finding any that keeps my interest.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

What sort of topics are you interested in and what sort of podcasts would you want to listen to?

@CpApaProduktions

Жыл бұрын

@@theimmersionguy anything to be honest. For me it mostly depends on the host(s) rather than topic.

@Harry_Stone

Жыл бұрын

​@@theimmersionguy 僕も、僕も。僕はテクとか科学とかゲイムみたいなやつがすき。どうちらを聞いたらいいですか

The city in the background looks so beautiful. I would love to visit this place, does anybody know where this is?

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Bangkok, Thailand.

@Apfelkaninchen

Жыл бұрын

@@theimmersionguy thank you!!! 😚

Hello👋 About the part you mentioned that your speaking fluctuates a lot, In my experience with learning English as my second language, the fluctuation is a result of a gap in your knowledge regarding the matter you are talking about or basically you're brain switching to the other languages you know to convey the meaning you're trying to get across more accurately. The fix I found to this problem is studying many different subjects from sci-fi to culinary arts to gardening and human body in your target language. Ganbare👍👍👍

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

What you said is definitely true, but on top of that sometimes even it's a familiar topic, the language just won't come out right. Idk sometimes my brain just doesn't work.

@SaiyanJin85

Жыл бұрын

@@theimmersionguy we all are the same

今は日本語を勉強しています。日本語が難しいことはなんか怖がる。なぜなら、ほとんどの学習者さんはやはり流暢に話せるために数年間かかりますことを気づいた。 I've been learning japanese for a few months now and I'm far away from fluency. I really have fun when I'm learning, although I don't spend many hours on it. I just try to enjoy the process and don't worry much about fluency. I'm having fun with it.

@theimmersionguy

2 ай бұрын

Honestly, having fun is the main thing, so don't be put off by seeing people who compressed all their learning into a short few years. Everyone goes at a different pace, but those who stay consistent and remember to have fun and enjoy the process will all get there eventually.

I'm studying japanese and chinese at the same time it's hard to understand anything and i know it's a very long journey goal is to reach fluency in both languages in next 10 years

@agungredking9160

11 ай бұрын

Its not a good idea to learn 2 language at the same time. Better to drop one and just focus on another one.

@crobatgaming5661

11 ай бұрын

@@agungredking9160 I did make considerable progress in japanese I drop chinese for now

@by3734

9 ай бұрын

I also want to study Chinese and Japanese. How are your studies going?

@crobatgaming5661

9 ай бұрын

@@by3734 I fucked up in chhinese and dropped it I did make great progress in japanese

If you are English speaking person then i would say you are doing good. Because Japanese and English is really opposite so I understand the difficulty people face. But you cleared JLPTN1 withing 1 year is amazing. Speak a lot about your Knowledge that your brain is high functioning. I am saying this because no matter how Immersion community diss JLPT in the end it is still a good Exam for your reading and understanding despite no speaking involved.

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, but I already had basic reading comprehension when I started immersion in 2018, and the test was in December 2019, so it was more like 1.5 years from when I started immersion.

@rrr...080

9 ай бұрын

That's the reason why Japanese people have difficulty learning English too these two languages are too opposite! でも英語はできて当たり前と思われて誰も褒めてくれない

For speaking for years I’ve been doing ANKI flash cards on my phone with audio and I say the audio along with the speaker at least 5 times matching intonation best I can

@theimmersionguy

8 ай бұрын

What sort of results did you get?

@diskographi

8 ай бұрын

My intonation is good as well, but I don't always speak Japanese (in America) so I have to maintain practice like this but the results are good, as far as I can tell. I did AJATT years ago but not like you, bravo. If you ever have a discord I'd love to be active in the VCs!@@theimmersionguy

@theimmersionguy

8 ай бұрын

@@diskographi Sounds like you got pretty decent results! I've never thought about making a discord (I've never even used discord before haha), but I would like to develop an community about immersion learning in the future, so it's definitely something I'll have to consider...

What kind of japanese media do you consume? Any recommendations?

@theimmersionguy

Жыл бұрын

Mostly podcasts, but also KZread, movies, and books. What sort of stuff/topics are you interested in? I'll if I can make any recommendations based on that.

Great information, but does anyone know where the video was shot?

@ericgafner7607

8 ай бұрын

Never mind, he mentioned it later in the video. Bangkok, Thailand.

@theimmersionguy

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. It was shot at Benjakitti Park in Bangkok.