Timestamps: 0:50 bat position 2:10 swing 4:13 bat finishing position 5:41 grip 6:45 more speed and spin 8:23 backhand loop in action

IMO! This is the best backhand topspin tutorial you will find. This is exactly how Liam Pitchford does his.

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

@darrinkulyk9560

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely Enjoyed That Thankyou

@hondagod904

Жыл бұрын

I would have to disagree. This is because many players, myself included don’t like Liam Pitchford’s play style. Now don’t misunderstand, Liam Pitchford is top 100 he’s an outstanding players and should be praised. However for people who don’t like this play style, this is not the “best” tutorial. No need for an argument btw I’m just saying this to throw it out there. This video helped me out a ton.

Most detailled backhand explanation on KZread 👌

Thanks Tom and ferenc that was brilliant . The attention to detail is exactly what i need to execute this shot and im starting to get there.

Really good tutorial, Ferenc explained it very well. He seems very consistent in his shots.

His teaching videos are so amazing.. they definitely deserve way more likes and views.. :)

Super Tom!!! Thank you Ferenc. 🏓👍

Such a nice demonstration with slow rhythm of speaking, which help us to understand all important actions. GREAT.

Very helpful. Great detail. Thanks!

Thanks! Ferenc is really great at this. Perfect tutorial.

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank You Tom! Köszönöm, Ferenc!

Great video, thanks!

Very very good tutorial!! Keep up the good work!!!

Thank you very much! The best explaination of the backhandloop. Now it makes sense. I should lift the forearm first and then put the wrist Into action and not holding the wrist down Before moving the arm. Now I get why that doesn't work. The wrist is turned before hitting the ball. Moving the wrist later as a whipping action will impact the ball at the right time

Wow! How beautifully explained...👍

Kolejny dobry film Tomaszu, dzięki ✌️

Great tutorial. This backhand smash/loop has always been my best shot. This tutorial helped me tweak out and correct some bad habits I discovered I had. Terrific video. Thank you very much.

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Loved this tutorial Tom and Ference. I always had a good backhand, but with this extra shot it will deffoe give my usual opponents a bit of a shock. Great stuff guys keep it going please.

@chandanapadhi9632

2 жыл бұрын

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Very detailed explaination of Backhand Loop. Thanks a lot for this amazing Video

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

Great tips that,ll cure my weak backhand low shot..to develop into something.. from a Auckland senior

grest video, and very very detailed. awesome!

Yahoo i need TT tips and tricks and thank you 👍🏻👍🏻🤩

Yayy! Tom uploaded!

Very good video 🏓

Thanks for the tips I really appreciate it 😁😊😅

Perfect lessons thanks alot.

thanks it was quite useful

Thanks Tom. Appreciate.

Thank you coach👍🏻

Hi Tom, I would like to thank you and Ferenc for the video of the forhand loop. Especially step 6, position on the table... close to the table, left leg "under" the table... this was a detail really helped me to do "one step forward" to get an imagination how forhand loop works... "the ball is falling down close to the table" --> you have to stay close to the table, facing the ball... 👍👍👍

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! :)

Excellent!

this is the best tutorial that makes more sense

great stuff

Wow. Very nice tipps, Ferenc. Everybody told us, to fix the elbow and only rotate with the forearm. But this technique is insane! Thanks a lot!

@TomLodziak

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Ferenc has a very fluid technique with his forearm and wrist. I like it a lot.

@Franky_1974

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. I will try to acquire this technique ;-)

Great video

Thank you Tommy!

@isadsyafaat7057

3 жыл бұрын

I- Who?

Nice coaching

Excellent Tom & always looking forward to your video’s & the guests of Who’s Who of the Table Tennis 🏓 World Novice Sydney down under ❤like the break down & commentary & the contents of all your video’s 💯😜🤙🏽😎👍🏽👌🏽

Sou do Brasil, parabens pelo video rapido e direto, foi otima sua explicacao e técnica, vou colocar em prática e muito obrigado!

Хороший урок. Спасибо.

Thank you :)

Thanks a lot.

Very good demotration

super video,the same in vorhand topspin please...

Thanks 😊

Great tutorial. Can u point out the differences between backhand topspin and backhand loop? Maybe a side-to-side tutorial or some references to ur past tutorials will be welcomed. Thanks.

Great video as always. Could you please make a tutorial of how to receive short/long no spin ball/serve? It’s quite hard for me to handle that type of ball. Thank you.

Me again, I have one suggestion. Now you have a good video on forehand loop and one on backhand, how about a video with focusing on the transition back and forth between the two (for players that don't switch grip)? I don't find that much on KZread on this topic, and Ferenc' input on this could be really helpful for beginners like me.

Iam beginner thanks coach, I will try it with friends

Thanks

Nice video...i always enjoy. I wish i can get a giveaway racket from u of any sort, just a confused player without rubber😭

All is said , now its time to practice and relax mentally !

The most elegant shot in table tennis.

Super

I'm learning British english and also how to play table tennis 😅

@pingcredible3477

3 жыл бұрын

why?

@mickteixeira5422

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingcredible3477 I'm brazilian, my native language is portuguese.

@pingcredible3477

3 жыл бұрын

@@mickteixeira5422 Oh cool!!

@hotlavafse6932

3 жыл бұрын

@@pingcredible3477 What is a loop? Im new to table tennis

@pingcredible3477

3 жыл бұрын

@@hotlavafse6932 Loops are like heavy topspin shots. You see players hit down to up at an angle. I actually did some looping in my video but it isn't the best.

Great tutorial! If the opening backhand topspin is against backspin, how would the movement for the followup bh attack differ? I realize the energy should be more forwards than upwards, but it would be great to hear you explain this. Again, thanks for the video!

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

The key for an effective follow-up topspin is your elbow position, recovered balanced stance and relaxed elbow-wrist. With the open-up, if the follow-through is properly done, your elbow is taken to a centered, idle position, high enough to give you a good chance to topspin the next blocked-back ball on the top (10-40 degrees). Since the open-up takes you close to the table, you need to make sure that the follow-up doesn't find you too close. The contact timing on the backhand follow-up can be earlier than the highest point of the arc, to give you more offensive edge. The swinging wave is launched simply around the elbow by the forearm muscles, the swinging angle is closely aligned with the racket angle, the upper arm shouldn't really move. For me, the wrist does 80% of the job, the elbow 20%. If your elbow is stable during the topspin, the quality and consistency will increase. See at 8:43.

@kneckedeck

3 жыл бұрын

@@paragontabletennis8555 Thank you for your answer! I'll need to read that a couple of times and let it sink in... 🙂

Tom, this video focuses more on looping backspin? or the same technique applies to both topspin & backspin? if not, please have another video focusing on looping topspin. Ferenc is an amazing coach, thanks!

@ngocduongtran5749

3 жыл бұрын

When Tom use the word Looping is just use in case backspin ball. If topsin is Tom will use word topspin back hand against topspin ball.

@TomLodziak

3 жыл бұрын

If the ball has topspin, you should start with your elbow and bat higher. You also need to close the bat angle and the stroke should be more forwards than up. I always think of it this way - if backspin - swing up, if topspin - swing forward.

@schinnery6335

3 жыл бұрын

Tom Lodziak love that simplicity: backspin swing up; topspin swing forward

@nguyenanhquynh7322

3 жыл бұрын

Tom, there are many suggestions about shifting weight from left to right when looping backhand, but this video never mentioned it. Or Ferenc technique is different?

About grip, i found that if i loosen my index and thumb but apply pressure with other three fingers i get more bat speed but i lose control of shot. So which one is better? Holding bat with thumb and index finger or other three fingers

I guess I will improve my best weapon even further.

Thanks Tom , by the way, what equipment using Ferenc Horvath ?

Hi, very nice video. One thing though, the part where Ferenc explains how to move the wrist - imho, what you do AFTER making contact with the ball has no effect anymore on the ball. I feel Ferenc does not explain correctly why you should let your wrist swing to the end. He is right, but he is not explaining the reason. I remember seeing a different tutorial that explains the premature breaking effect that can happen if you don't swing freely.

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your insight! It is mentioned in the video that if you don't swing your wrist to the right side endpoint, you "sacrifice a little bit of extra spin" (from 4:56) meaning your maximum spin output would be less. What could have been added is that the wrist follow-through has an essential role in controlling, directing these loops, pinpointing their placement accuracy, creating higher arc loops when necessary. Also, that right side bat endpoint relaxes your wrist by driving it to an aligned, straight "idle" position, keeping your wrist and forearm relaxed during those milliseconds between consecutive loops.

He has good forehand as well...

What is the rubber Ferenc Horvath on this BH loop? Asking if short pips can do this job?

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

I use Xiom Omega series, currently Omega IV Pro (max). Short pips require a different technique to attack backspin, unfortunately.

how to hit long distance spin

Dear Tom I would like to make some comments. In another video you admit that the backhand loop is a "sore point" not only for you, but for most of low level and intermediate players, so it could be a good idea to develop this concept in another two videos at least that could be very useful for your many followers. 1) I noticed that you provide us many examples of backhand loops, multiball training like this, but the opening action starts only when the ball is quite long, that is easier. Very often, during a real match, a good defender plays short balls and force the attacker in long pushes courses rallies that usually ends with an error of the attacker. Could you please teach us how to open a short ball, with heavy underspin effect? I guess the key from the attacker point of view could be try to force long pushes until a long ball comes and then attack it with a loop. But it is not easy at all, especially during the stress of a match. One video with tips and drills to overcome this mental and technical point could be welcomed by you. 2) Some players says the it is easier to open with a backhand loop if you use short pimples rubber, that is a sort of trick for being less sensible to underspin effect. Could you explain in practice this concept? Is there in your club a player with short pimples rubber that is available to show us this tecnique? Could you suggest us some training drills useful also in this case? Thank you very much for your attention.

@TomLodziak

2 жыл бұрын

You raise many interesting points here. Let me have a think about this. I often cover this when I'm coaching others, but I'll need to work out how to make it into a video tutorial.

@riccardoscotton5371

2 жыл бұрын

@@TomLodziak Thank for your answer and your efforts to make tennistable more and more enjoyable and understandable to your many fans and followers.

I think this is a modern technique

Is this only used against backspin?

@TomLodziak

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is to be used against a backspin ball. Against a topspin ball you can use a similar stroke (topspin), but your bat should start higher and go forwards, rather than up. Your bat angle will be more closed and the contact will be more over the top of the ball, rather than up the back of the ball.

Who use left and right hand

@ElloRadis

3 жыл бұрын

I do it

@chiconium

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElloRadis poor thing no one replies to u

@RobertoCostas

2 жыл бұрын

I do it too. It's very useful.

I don’t know if the blocking guy is messing up purposely. Otherwise, SH has really horrible blocks. Any shot to the middle and he’s completely helpless. I thought that’s only a problem with beginners. I am a beginner penholder looking to switch to SH and I think those balls are slow enough (like practice mode) to block with TBP.

Ferenc Horvarth is Very cute 🌈🌈🌈👌👌👌💐💐👍👍

Magyarul nem csinálsz egy ugyan ilyet?

@paragontabletennis8555

3 жыл бұрын

Talán egyszer, de nem hiszem, hogy lenne rá közönségem. :)

@torocsikm89

3 жыл бұрын

Na jó, bojler.

sound quality could be improved

Very few people know how to do back hand. You are no exception. First, you are stiff. Second, your left foot should be forward. Third, your backswing should be straight down your left side and part with a side spin. Fourth, you must follow through as though you are hitting a gold ball. Enough for now. As they say, just have fun.

Is everyone here to dominate the office or is it just me ?

First

by the way , his posture doesnt look pretty lol anyway i enjoyed it keep the good work

Looks awful, so stiff 😅 Looping backhand is a beauty and powerful 😊