Persistence of time is a fucking masterpiece

@kilroyfrills3084

8 жыл бұрын

Got The Time got me into them.

@nickwhitman6319

7 жыл бұрын

I love that song man! It's got an amazing bassline and a perfect mix between classic thrash and punk!

@GregPYatesJr

7 жыл бұрын

"Got the Time" is a great song, but Anthrax didn't write it, it's a cover of a new wave British pop song written by Joe Jackson in 1979.

@ElectronJohnSA

7 жыл бұрын

+Jacks Cleaner it's a parody

@jimmievw

6 жыл бұрын

in my room, h8red, best album of all time for sure

Hating Anthrax? That's like hating puppies, kittens, free beer, and bacon!

@robertspike4188

6 жыл бұрын

Greg O so true

@rathernot3839

5 жыл бұрын

I dont hate anthrax I just dont like them because of joey

@Faks.09

5 жыл бұрын

@@rathernot3839 Joey is the only difference between Anthrax and other big 4 bands Thats why i am like this band)

@johnhareiel5118

3 жыл бұрын

A basket of kittens?

@dominichowell6896

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I H8 all that shit! 😡🤘

I dunno why anthrax doesn't usually get attention such as Metallica or Slayer...

@Dustin9933

8 жыл бұрын

I guess they're just the least commercially successful of the big 4.

@GrayWoIf

8 жыл бұрын

+Dustin9933 and yet where the first to be called thrash due to their song metal thrashing mad

@chsims7032

8 жыл бұрын

Because they aren't from the Bay Area, nor did they look the part. They had a unique sound in the 80's that people probably didn't expect because of the Bay Area thrash culture. But they were, and still are, one hell of a band to see live. Especially in a small venue of only a couple thousand fans

@n0ped0pe61

8 жыл бұрын

1stFallschirmjagerRgt My problem, really, is that Anthrax probably worked the hardest and had the most problems over the years. And yet, it isn't as respected as these bands.

@chsims7032

7 жыл бұрын

+white noise that's how itbwas here at the Royal Oak Music Theater which is just a few miles north of Detroit. A very small venue and one of the better shows I have been to. One show I wish I could've seen there was when Metallica played there while touring for Ride The Lightning. Going to see Anthrax again next Saturday at a slightly larger outdoor venue not too far from here where they are playing with Slayer and one other band.

Anthrax never sold out actually the opposite they arent scared to do different genres and even helped create one

@GabrielGAS1201

6 жыл бұрын

two*

@funfox8133

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure about that: Just like Moneytallica and Megadeth, in the 1990s and 2000s, Anthrax softened their sound. Stomp 442 and the Bush years weren't very heavy or thrash, so that could be considered as selling out. Thankfully For All Kings is back to where they should be. The only one of the Big 4 that never sold out was Slayer (although Diabolus In Musica had its moments).

@Ae0liann

5 жыл бұрын

Austin Ruddy Metallicash

@vitunpelle602

5 жыл бұрын

They didnt help make a genre, they made a genre.

@dylanrus8117

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Ruddy Exactly, and the band that made the least thrash album was Megadeth

I don't think anyone really "hates" anthrax. They aren't celebrated as the greatest band to have ever existed by their over obsessive fans (looking at you slayer), they aren't douche bags, they all seem like nice enough guys. Their music is considered either average or pretty good depending on who you talk to. Not really any hate worthy qualities...

@SleepFan771

8 жыл бұрын

I hear that nearly every day as an Anthrax fan. It's so ridiculous. I feel like no one that has ever said that has ever listened to Fistful of Metal, Armed and Dangerous, Spreading the Disease, Among the Living, State of Euphoria, Persistence of Time, Attack of the Killer B's, Worship Music, Anthems, or For All Kings.

@mikebarrett3982

8 жыл бұрын

i agree..i never got into them, and i wouldn't say i like their music, but as far as hating them, i cant say that either

@helltoupee6664

8 жыл бұрын

+Ocean Sage So ANY good anthrax album...

@SleepFan771

8 жыл бұрын

Joe Manzella Exactly. I really don't most metal fans have actually listened to Anthrax's albums. The most common encounter I get is someone will say Anthrax aren't metal or they don't deserve to be in the Big 4. So I always ask them to explain, then they say it's because they are a punk band or they'll say they are hip hop or rock. They often can never even name more than a song or ttwo tops. They'll just say they Got the Time or Bring the Noize, or my personal favorite, they did a song with Public Enemy once, they are not metal. Jesus.

@FirebirdCamaro1220

8 жыл бұрын

+Ocean Sage as someone who actually listens to Anthrax from Persistance on back (nothing after that), it was a combination of Joey's vocals and not being fast/hard enough for a name like Anthrax, Nuclear Assault and S.O.D. have the sound more worthy of a name like that

lol people hate anthrax? There one of the best metal bands and live acts in the world. I've seen them live three times and their energy is insane. Best of the big 4 in my opinion.

@HunniTeez

4 жыл бұрын

best of the big 4 1000%

@donaldwestfall6143

3 жыл бұрын

Metallica are sellouts, Dave Mustaine can't sing anything, and Slayer is Slayer, Anthrax is Anthrax.

@jessickalush3305

3 жыл бұрын

Anthrax is the Amway of the big 4

@Glamosapien

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldwestfall6143 uuh you know scott ian literally ripped off and stole songs by former anthrax members? The only reason they got a good start was because he was a prissy rich kid who bought then into big venues right at the start

@stantorren4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@NickHill668 Come on, Dave isn’t that much better than the rest of the big 4

I think that Sound of White Noise is highly underrated. I had it bought for me and never touched it because it wasn't Joey but a buddy called me stupid for not giving it a chance and I'm glad I did.

@mjnation7876

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah Sound of White Noise is an excellent album. Can't say that for stomp 442 and volume 8

@holysmoke8439

7 жыл бұрын

the best album in the catalog

@exbladex99

7 жыл бұрын

Probably wouldn't be hated so much if Stomp 442 and volume 8 had more strong songs. A lot of the songs in it were kinda "filler". Aside from P&V, Pompeii, Perpetual Motion, it was hard to find good songs.

@themechanic1144

7 жыл бұрын

Funny how people view music differently. I think Stomp and Volume 8 are two of thier best albums, in particular Volume 8. Catharsis, Stealing from a Thief and Harms Way are excellent songs. Back in 92 or 93, White Noise was the first Anthrax album I ever bought. Great album...

@ChamberpotCharlie

6 жыл бұрын

It was the 2nd album I owned and its the best of the John Bush era. Listened to it so much I had to pick up several used copies

People don't like Scott Ian? He seems like such a chill dude.

@rattlehead2138

6 жыл бұрын

Rayn Wolfsbane ikr same

@2XxStayFlyxX4

6 жыл бұрын

he is... all of the band is very chill and humble. I met them last week and gave Frank Bello a customized shirt as a gift and he loved it, he even thanked me on his instagram & twitter, they're awesome dudes! Also they're still putting out great music and put on a killer performance. They're my favorite band of the big 4 to watch live

@thegreatamericancircus9093

6 жыл бұрын

I interviewed him. He was the worst interview I've ever had. I have interviewed a lot of celebrities. He is arrogant and overall a douchbag.

@twelveeighteen2055

5 жыл бұрын

@@thegreatamericancircus9093 - Maybe because, after that nightmare reality show with Ted Nugent and Sebastian Bach, he's over the whole press thing?

@thegreatamericancircus9093

4 жыл бұрын

@@twelveeighteen2055 I could get behind that idea except that was not a huge part of his life. That wasn't even that big of a band. I've talked to other people about him, same response. The things he said to me during that interview, he really is that person.

For All Kings is my favourite Anthrax album, i like it even more than Among the Living. theyre thr strongest band of the the Big 4 right now in my opinion

@kaseycarling1739

6 жыл бұрын

CanadianBoardCrew i agree For All Kings is fucking perfect

@hawkdog110

6 жыл бұрын

CanadianBoardCrew the more I hear FAK the more I like it. Killer album.

@nostalcholy

6 жыл бұрын

worship music is great too

@AlofD

6 жыл бұрын

CanadianBoardCrew it's so good. I never knew they'd brought Joey back and went to see them at the Glasgow barrowlands where they filmed the DVD! What a night!!

@damoneubanks9992

3 жыл бұрын

I love all 4 of them, but Anthrax have absolutely made the best and most consistent albums over the past 20 years of all The Big 4. I've seen all of them at least once over the past 10 years and Anthrax live shows are far more entertaining than Megadeth and Metallica at least and equal to Slayer.

I hate Anthrax because I think the VILLAGE PEOPLE should have been in the Big 4.

I DESPISE ANTHRAX. The symptoms are horrendous; vomiting of blood, severe diarrhea, skin lesions and severe (and often fatal) respiratory collapse. Dangerous stuff; coverkillernation failed to mention these reasons!

@coverkillernation

8 жыл бұрын

+J' Mar (el diablo blanco) I knew I should've went to medical school.

@1chiTheKiller

5 жыл бұрын

J' Mar I SEE WUT U DID THAR

@zachlight1868

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck you buddy

@sirspookybones1118

5 жыл бұрын

Fuuck the joke hit hard, thanks

Anthrax definitly belongs to the Big Four, especially thinkin in the albums the had in the classic era.

WHO HATES ANTHRAX??

@JH-ij2nm

7 жыл бұрын

RespectTheEmotions I know it's bs

@georgecolby7488

5 жыл бұрын

Losers. Losers hate Anthrax.

@dvir12345

3 жыл бұрын

i dont think anyone really hate them but their just pretty overrated

I love the big 4. Megadeth especially.

@SUN2RA

6 жыл бұрын

KAELANIME DAVE MUSTAINE = HERO OF “ Big 4 “ .. !!!!!!

@sirspookybones1118

5 жыл бұрын

I like them all

@dvir12345

3 жыл бұрын

same

@ryanroma5724

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirspookybones1118 metallicas next album like em all hahahaah

Personally, I thought 'Sound of White Noise' was a great album. I never cared for Belladonna's vocals but that isn't to say he didn't help propel some of their classic stuff. Anthrax absolutely deserves to be a part of the Big Four.

@wolfsramnc

3 жыл бұрын

I agree on White Noise. Never cared for the others with Bush but that one is top to bottom great.

I got into Anthrax in high school. I had State of Euphoria on cassette and I would just listen to it on my Walkman over and over and over. Then i went backward and found first Among the Living then I'm the Man. I thought then and still think they were something really special. I mean I had the "NOT" guy skateboarder shirt. I had posters. I had a Guitar World Magazine that featured a speed metal article with a sweet pic of Scott pounding away on his NY strat 12 fret guitar. This was all very inspiring to a kid like me. Definitely one of my early metal guitar playing influences. So to hear someone sum up Anthrax's importance not just to me but countless others I'm sure with a phrase like, "Anthrax Sucks" is beyond lame. I like all the big 4 for totally different reasons. Thank you for posting this video.

Anthrax is supposed to be a fun band (despite some of their serious songs, like "Indians" or "One World"). Anthrax honestly embody thrash pretty well.

@sirspookybones1118

5 жыл бұрын

They have some of the more "wacky" songs in comparison to the other big 4

@twelveeighteen2055

5 жыл бұрын

@@sirspookybones1118 - That's the punk spirit in their hardcore.

@dvir12345

3 жыл бұрын

anthrax are a lot of things, thrash isnt one of those things

@stantorren4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@dvir12345 They have thrash in them, it just has more hardcore punk influence

Congratz to 47'000 subscribers CKN. You've come this far and I wish you many more disciples for your channel.

So , wich band could fit in the place of Anthrax in the Big four? Exodus , Death Angel ? they are really good bands but nothing like Anthrax , and why to hate Joey's voice I think this is one of the things that put the band on the top

@coverkillernation

7 жыл бұрын

+Fred Tobar I haven't a clue. I think the big 4 is fine the way it is. I've gotten this question for years and never had a great answer for it. I think in a What If video about Dave Mustaine or something I concocted some weirdass way there could be a Big 5 or something. All speculative thought and a major reach, but that's part of what that series of vids are all about.

@snakesghost7817

7 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I am a fan of your channel but let me say something. Last year Anthrax opened for Lamb of God. Lamb of God of course is a very successful band now, they are one of my top favorite bands. When Anthrax came on the stage and played, some people were into it. It seems like most people were standing there with their arms crossed or going out for a smoke. When Lamb of God came on, the energy of the venue was completely different. People went bonkers, everyone was having a good time, moshing, the usual, Lamb of God is popular. Let me ask you this though: If there were to be a theoretical new tour and it was Lamb of God and Metallica (big 4) who would open? Obvious Answer. What about Megadeth and Lamb of God? Obvious answer. Slayer and Lamb of God? Obvious answer. Which leads me to my point, Anthrax, a big 4 band opened for Lamb of God proves the fact that they are very undeserving of the big 4 spot. They might as well make it a big 3. They are no where near the level of popularity of Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer. I am obviously not that big of a fan of Anthrax but that is just my two cents.

@LeandroGC06

7 жыл бұрын

Cerberus' Leash Popularity doesn't mean shit. Anthrax is great and deserves it's place in the big 4.

@nickwhitman6319

7 жыл бұрын

EXODUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@anovak0726

7 жыл бұрын

Fred Tobar Testament would be a great fit! They're amazing!

There is nothing wrong with Anthrax. The only reason to hate them is that people put them in the Big 4.

@filthyswit

8 жыл бұрын

That's no reason to hate them. It's the people that put them there, not Anthrax.

@errorcode99

8 жыл бұрын

filthyswit Yeah exactly it's misplaced hate.

@mjnation7876

8 жыл бұрын

Stomp 442 and Volume 8

@fr0zeNid

8 жыл бұрын

exodus shouldve been there instead of anthrax

@tbagg2479

8 жыл бұрын

exodus is just an average group.Boring and repetative as hell.They are not even close to anthrax.Only testament can be the debate imo.

Anthrax is amazing!! I love the Joey & John Bush eras!!! I got to see both versions live a lot and loved every show.

Which music is that...in the background

What's playing in the background?

John Bush era was alright but Joey Belladonna era FLAWLESS Their last 2 albums could have picked up right after Persistence of Time They are Timeless to me..... \m/

@marinhrabric6162

6 жыл бұрын

i really like for all kings but worship music to me personaly wasn't anything special. i only like 3 songs on it. also i want the horsing around and making jokes era and albums back. now they are making these more mature, serious albums which is fine but i want the classic goofy, joking kind of thrash that anthrax used to make

@twelveeighteen2055

5 жыл бұрын

@@marinhrabric6162 Hell yes. "Which one of these words don't you understand?! Talking to you is like clapping with one hand!"

What's the background music?

Could we see more "5 reasons people love" videos. I really enjoyed the Rush one.

@coverkillernation

8 жыл бұрын

+Daniel Midkiff funnily enough, the real lack of response killed that. Plus, with some bands, it would largely repeat why people love the bands. Aside from conflicting personalities, obv. Though some of those folks are catalyst points for examination. You hear a name enough, you wonder what its all about.

In 1988 I joined a band called "Rugg Ratt" we were a thrash band. Our bass player was Pete Martinez from the band "Murphy's Law" and Jason Ian on drums. Scott Ian's younger brother. We were playing a bunch of shows around NYC and Scott showed up at a club in Lake Success called "The Cat House" to check us out to see if we were good enough to open for them along with "Helloween" and "Living Colour" on the "I'm the Man" tour. Well, we were definitely good enough, however, I was thrown out of the band 2 months after he came to check us out. The reason ? he said that I reminded him to much of Neil Turbine. Imagine that, I got thrown out of the band not for anything I did wrong. No I got thrown out of the band because Scott Ian didn't like the way I sang. To this day I still find it amazing. I don't know of anyone who ever got thrown out of a band because of an outsiders opinion.

I think anthrax is very underrated. The first metal concert I went too was anthrax and killswitch engage this year and it was amazing.

I loved the John Bush era best. I liked Anthrax before him, but when he came in I started to Love them. They found the right voice and it just kicked so much more ass! I know every word to every song on Sound of White Noise, Volume 8, and WCFYA and most of those on Stomp 442. Since then, when Joey came back the songwriting was so good it could have been anybody at the helm and it would have been awesome. Worship Music is awesome and For All Kings has its great moments too! I try to listen to some old 80s Anthrax now, and its like a different band that is kinda good but not something I'd go apeshit over. NOW is the time to be a fan of them!!

Another long term fan here. Never met anyone who hated Anthrax. Sadly not as respected as their peers, due to Bermuda shorts, having fun, not singing songs about the devil or crossovers with rap artists. And in my opinion - it's Bush every time. Joey is great but too.....clean, too nice. John has that extra growl in his tone, more emotion and seems to be comfortable covering a range of song types.

Hey, CKN. Simple question. Do you like or have you heard any Killing Joke albums? They're sort of an industrial metal / post punk band that's been active for nearly 40 years. I really can't tell whether you'd like them or not, but some, including myself, consider them classic. Thanks in advance!

I'll give you a 6th reason: Neil Turbin cannot get over the fact he was the first singer of Anthrax.

Maybe hate is too much of a strong word. I sure understand that some people don't like certain bands, but hate? There's enough hate on the internet already to promote it further

I was a skater in the 80's when these bands were putting out this music, and I can educate you a bit on "skate metal". We preferred music that had certain tempos and sound to it while we skated ... Especially on half pipes. Anthrax's "Among the Living" was perfect for that. Other bands we listened to for that purpose were Suicidal Tendencies, D.R.I., Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Corrosion of Conformity, Testament, Sepultura, Ministry, and some punk bands like The Exploited, Black Flag, and The Misfits. Songs that were aggressive, and fast. I built a half pipe in my back yard with rooms under the decks. I had a stereo in one of the rooms. I drilled small holes on the vert of the ramp on each side, and mounted speakers behind the plywood so no matter which side of the ramp we were on, the music would blast right at us. Our neighbors hated us so much, and tried to get the city to make us tear the ramp down. My dad defended our right to have our half pipe though, and won.

People hate them because they like rap music. LOL

@Jack_Woods

6 жыл бұрын

My friend, they hate them because they think if you like Rap/Hiphop, you should hate Metal, and viceverse, ESPECIALLY VICEVERSE

@MorbidMindedManiac

6 жыл бұрын

You could have said that to ANY band BUT ANTHRAX I’m the man and Bring the noise explains why

Ok KIDS. Here’s a little lesson. For ANYTHING you may LOVE, someone else can’t STAND IT. I LOVE ANTHRAX. I’m not surprised anyone hates them. Joeys voice ?!? Yes, he is why some people LOVE Anthrax and some people HATE THEM. His voice is polarizing and part of why I appreciate him . He IS the voice of Anthrax.

The only reason Anthrax doesn't belong in the Big 4 is because they are too good to be in it.

I met Joey Belladonna before and he's one of the nicest and coolest people I know. If people were to mistake him for Scott Ian, I would hate them forever!

You should do a review on one of the John Bush era albums

My Top 3 Anthrax - Among the Living - Sound of White Noise and For all Kings

I like all the Anthrax singers. They only have two bad albums. I still think that Anthrax is better than Slayer :)

@Casketkrusher_

8 жыл бұрын

Same, Slayer is very overrated, never liked Slayer, never will.

@mjnation7876

8 жыл бұрын

+Xyloblast I like Slayer's first album and that's about it. They get way too much praise.

@FirebirdCamaro1220

8 жыл бұрын

+MJNation Hell Awaits pwns anything Anthrax put out, and I say that as someone who listens to both bands, just being honest

@tbagg2479

8 жыл бұрын

slayer doesnt have any good song in my opinion.Hell awaits? U must be deaf to say this.Anything anthrax did can easily beat it.I actually never understand people who says slayer is better? they dont have bass guitar,they dont have guitar solos? they have just satanic lyrics and image.

@mikeharvey1597

8 жыл бұрын

You are wrong.

You should do a video discussing the difference and similarity in the styles and sounds of The Big Four bands

I also remember being served a milk carton back in 1989 in Highschool that had anthrax,testament& exodus printed on the cafeteria milk carton ,I must be sentimental to recall it so easy like it was yesterday :)

My first concert and my last one so far had Anthrax and Slayer. Anthrax has been my favorite band since around 1991. And I love S.O.D.

Indeed CKN! Hip Hop from 1978-1992 was definitely a form of alternative music and was not mainstream at all for the most part.

mike portnoy is going to play with dream theater next year live. playing all the 12 steps. really excited. and playing with a7x and all his bands for his 50th bday

I got a 6th reason, Anthrax didn't play Armed and Dangerous during the Killthrax tour, lol \m/ While Evil ones try to Destroy us....

I loved bring the noise and Public Enemy was a classic hiphop group that perfectly could crossover with hardcore and metal music because of the content. Also public enemy sampled slayer for their chanel zero song so the link with thrash was already made.

Anthrax would kill exodus ..you all are crazy anthrax jams like hell on all there stuff

@dvir12345

3 жыл бұрын

i think you meant anthrax would kill to be exodus

@congav9062

3 жыл бұрын

Exodus are way better

Joey and John... are equally great vocalists... I would love to see them BOTH on stage together at an Anthrax show!!!

YESSS I gotta ask tho CKN... Is this a direct result of my comment a couple weeks ago??

I understand keeping the B4 within the California state, but I think that having one band outside of it, especially in a region known for part of what thrash got some of it's sound from, hardcore punk, makes sense. Metallica was like the prime thrash band, Megadeth had the socially political lyrics with technical shredding, Slayer was borderline-extreme metal, and Anthrax was the NYHC thrash. Different sound for different styles of thrash.

When talking about Scot Ian selling out I was thinking when they did Rap that that would have been selling out, but you got to that next. The John Bush time was a time Anthrax were a very different band.

I actually got into Anthrax via the John Bush-era music. The Joey stuff came eventually, not quick, but eventually. I had pretty much given up on them after the whole thing right after the reunion when Joey left (again) and they got Dan Nelson, then got rid of him for reasons that aren't clear to this day, then had John back for a short time before Joey (again) returned. My head was hurting. But after I heard Worship Music, I thought it was such a great album, I liked the band again. I like all Anthrax's music.

A suggestion,. not sure if you have done this. The 5 Most Metal Soundtracks

anthrax is my favorite band by a mile. melodic vocals, insane drumming and bass, intense downpicking, and all around badassery! for all kings is a perfect album. none will beat anthrax.

I started watching and stopped after a minute because I don’t need this kind of negativity in my life. Anthrax kick ass!! 🤟🏻

@grantlong6586

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah what do you expect from a bunch of old people. Most of these geriatrics were born before 2000 and are sellouts with houses, salaries, and health insurance. Old people are always going to be bitter about the past.

Here you go for quick reference: 5. Joey Belladonna's Vocals 0:54 4. Scott Ian 2:19 3. They Put Rap in Metal 3:45 2. The John Bush Era 5:33 1. Anthrax Does Not Belong in the Big 4 7:52

Fistful of Metal...Most metal Anthrax 🤟

The FACT that in 1992 Anthrax had an entire episode of Married with Children based on them where they appeared and played one of their songs... that alone makes them BIGGER than Exodus, Testament and any other thrash band that people complain should replace them in the Big 4. National tv exposure in a popular TV show at the time and now in syndication to this day in 2021!

Persistence of Time is Joey's finest hour. Love his vocals on that album.

also in the 80's people use to hate Anthrax for the clothes they use to wear...shorts, T-Shirts with cartoons etc and this happened when most of Metal Bands wanted to look evil....after a few years Slayer, Sepultura and everybody started to wear Shorts

The Joey Belladonna albums are by far my favorite Anthrax albums. The John Bush era had/has it's moments but not nearly as good,to me. I prefer "Fistful Of Metal" (Neil Turbin's lone album with the band) over the Bush albums,too. I think that John Bush's true place was with Armored Saint,not with Anthrax.While they might not be Metal's all time greatest band, Anthrax are still ONE of the best,imo. \m/ \m/

My personal two cents on each reason discussed in the video: - Joey Belladonna has not only arguably the highest vocal range in thrash metal, but also is much less gruff-sounding and more melodic than his contemporaries, and I imagine that can be hard to stomach for fans who discovered the likes of Metallica/Megadeth/Exodus first. However, the first wave of metal bands I discovered included Iron Maiden and Metallica, and I found Anthrax to be a perfect mesh of Maiden's melody and Metallica's speed and heaviness. - Yeah, I find Scott Ian to be a little self-indulgent sometimes; he won't hesitate to get his name out there to discuss every and anything he was influenced by in a documentary or a spoken word tour. Another bothersome thing being his apparent disrespect and lack of open-ness towards fans in comparison to his bandmates, which contrasts with his chill/outspoken public image. Hella talented songwriter and riffer though. - So? Their rap metal stuff is pretty entertaining. Genre boundaries were made to be broken, and Anthrax properly meshed rap with metal before anyone else could. They weren't responsible for Limp Bizkit; they didn't get the members of that band together and write their dreadful songs now did they? - John Bush is fucking great. He's as much a vocal powerhouse as Belladonna, just in a different but still powerful manner; plus he wrote lyrics unlike his predecessor. He is to Anthrax what Corabi was to Motley Crue; brought in a fresh new sound and lyrics and made great music. Except unlike Crue, Anthrax didn't suck when they reunited with their old singer. - The Big Four label is took far too seriously on the internet. Like CKN says, the four bands didn't decide among themselves to be the biggest and most important bands out of the whole thrash metal scene. It was a term brought forth by the music press due to the amount of bands at the time producing this new faster style of metal, and those four bands just happened to have more commercial success than the others regardless of their level of thrashiness. I see fans online discuss how Exodus should replace Anthrax or how Exodus and Testament should join to make a Big Six. What difference would this labelling make at this stage of any of these bands' careers?

@tbagg2479

8 жыл бұрын

exodus is boring and not as good as anthrax.They are the real overrated ones.

@MrCapone1996

8 жыл бұрын

I agree with Belladonna's voice of that mixture of Maiden and Metallica

@chsims7032

8 жыл бұрын

It's not so much that Scott Ian has disrespect towards fans. It's the "fans" he doesn't want to be bothered with. He stated in an interview he has no problem with a true fan who stops him on the street. He can spot if they're an Anthrax fan or not as they approach. It's the ones who recognize him because of his goatee and face being on tv, but not knowing who he is or anything about the band.

@MrCapone1996

8 жыл бұрын

1stFallschirmjagerRgt don't blame him

@chsims7032

8 жыл бұрын

+MrCapone1996 oh I don't either.

People hate Anthrax not because they 'tried' something different but because succeeded IN doing something DIFFERENT.

The "Bush era" is what got me into Anthrax but then again it's more from my era. The sound of white noise is always in my playlist.... it's an amazing album. Belladonna is not quite my cup of tea but I can still appreciate him and enjoy his music, old and new

People don’t take into consideration that the Bush era, used different producers, Dave Jerden, The Butcher Bros, those guys did janes addiction, Alice In Chains, Nine inch Nails etc, so of course they were trying to mature their sound.

If you hear Anthrax being called skate rock it has to do when Gator Mark Anthoney did that speed bike and skateboard stunt tv show back in the 80's & they played Now it's Dark by Anthrax in the background ,I thought it was cool plus the whole nation was watching which made a huge impression on the public opinion back in the day.

@vaughnmild4467

3 жыл бұрын

They had merch with the NOT man riding a skateboard, and bring up that they like to skate in Im the Man

Idk I kind of agree with the last point, I listen to Anthrax sometimes but how in the hell are they bigger than Iron Maiden? Maybe at the time or something?

@wabbajackwabbajack6932

6 жыл бұрын

nvm I told a friend and he says its the big four OF THRASH... either you should say that at the beginning or Im fuckin deaf. Thanks. I stand by my point tho, Iron Maiden may not be thrash but Venom>Anthrax :P

If someone feels like anthrax doesn’t belong in the big four ,they’ve never heard among the living.

People don't seem to understand that the Big Four isn't meant to be the best bands thrash has to offer. The Big Four are the bands that brought thrash into popularity; they were by far the most well known in thrash's early years.

I was just listening to some Anthrax, while camping. I love the band, pity that some people hate them.

@mjnation7876

8 жыл бұрын

None of my friends have ever heard of them

@kenmo6

8 жыл бұрын

Owww.

@mjnation7876

8 жыл бұрын

kenmo6 Yeah they are busy listening to my chemical romance, black veil brides, and papa roach. sad bummer

@kenmo6

8 жыл бұрын

Oh, it's worse! They need you to guide them to damned good metal.

@mjnation7876

8 жыл бұрын

+kenmo6 Hopefully they will listen to me. There was one time when I showed a few friends Megadeth and they were confused and talked about how they think bands like them sound unrelevant which means that they immediately suck. I rolled my eyes at them lol

How do people hate Joey's singing. Is it because he is the only one in the big four who can actually sing? Yea the other guys have cool thrash singing and yelling but in terms of actual singing talent Joey surpasses them

Love Joey's Vocals especially on For All Kings and State of Euphoria

You should do Mötley Crüe or Dethklok 5 reasons

@LordOfNothingham

6 жыл бұрын

Retrogamesstudios ha! You can write a book on reasons to hate Motley Crue.

I'm still waiting on a "5 Reasons Why People Hate Mudvayne".

I agree! ...I know I'm late to this post, but I was just, uh...'debating' this subject with some metalheads recently. Most of them consider Testament the true 4th. I however was a freshman in HS in 1986, the year that the biggest, most iconic metal albums came out. Master of Puppets, Peace Sells, Reign in Blood, and of course, Among the Living! Not to mention Somewhere in Time! Btw, I've always considered it the big 5, because Iron Maiden should be on that list, thrash or no thrash! When these hugely influential albums came out, MTV's top requests turned to metal. Shortly after cane Headbangers Ball, & a new crop of thrashers exploded into the limelight, including Exodus, Testament, etc. Though many were doing it before the big 4, it was those 4 bands, in that year that "Set the World A Fire" I do believe I heard the words 'big 4' on Headbangers Ball, but I also believe it came from the fans. Back then it was all word of mouth, magazines, or MTV, so it had to be all of them, united. Now there's so many kinds of metal you need a dictionary & most of it is just loud for the sake of loud & angry because it sells to young angry teens. The soul of metal is in the classics, you can feel the hunger & the angst, but also the melodies & poetry of gteat songs. Ok, that's enough of that...I sound like an old fart...I guess I'm almost there, fuck it, I'm still a metalhead, just an old rusty one, but still a clasic! 🤘😎🤘

I'm the man was not the first rap metal song. Ludichrist did rap metal crossover in 1986. On the album imaculate deception. I think within the song green eggs and ham.

They probably think they just "suck".

People are going to disagree with this (I don't care, have at it in the replys) but anthrax is the only band in the big 4 not to sell out and I'm not forgetting slayer. Metallica did not sell out with the black album they decided that they wanted to make something slower and not as heavy so they did what they wanted not what people told them and they weren't trying to be anyone but themselfs. However it the late 90s it seemed to me like they were trying to be 9 inch nails. Megadeth change their sound slower than metallica but mustaine saw how the softer album had good sales so he decided to make a pop album. This just didn't work because it seemed like they just wanted the album sales so they could catch up with metallica. Slayer (I can all ready hear angry 12 year old who wish they were born 35 years earlier typing) slayer look at metallica and how all the die hard fans left after the black album and thus decided to not change there sound at all after seasons in the abyss. I'll lison do any entire and I mite notice 2-3 songs and the rest is just white noise to me. Slayer never changed because they were to afraid to lose their die hard fans. (In a way it does give me respect for them that they gave their fans what they wanted not what some other band had done looking at you megadeth and metallica). Anthrax love their music hate it. They do not care what people think they are just them self. State of euphoria anthrax fan love that album but anthrax hate it. I am the man and bring the noise most people hate it but anthrax loves it. Anthrax doesn't care what you think they make the music they wanted to.

One theory I have is because the thrash hotbed was the LA scene. While Anthrax is representing NYC and the East coast.

@abominog888

2 жыл бұрын

You're on to something.. here in LA Slayer and Dark Angel are GODS legends whatever... Anthrax is just... ok.

I never know why people wear sunglasses indoors.

I had black dudes in the gym tell me that Public Enemy were sell outs because they let a skinhead rap... The door swings both ways.

Maybe 5 reasons people hate Cattle Decapitation? Or Deafheaven? (I'm sure people would love to see that one, even though that one will probably be VERY hard) or Between the Buried and Me? (Even though I've mentioned this one three times and I feel bad for doing that)

@sebastianarmas897

8 жыл бұрын

Very hard because the reasons people hate Deafheaven are almost all the same, I mean :P

@sebastianarmas897

8 жыл бұрын

+Toxic Potato and then there are those who just call Deafheaven hipster metal. Don't know why, they just do.

Most of the albums before Persistence of Time, save for Fistful of Metal, are interchangeable. Most of the original songs sound alike and they only seem enthusiastic about cover songs, which were the majority of their pre-Bush material.

John Bush was a "minute change!?"

Got to meet John Bush in 1986. Class act. Metal Matt - Rock Gallery

I’m starting to think that this guy doesn’t really think about what he’s saying. I’ve never heard anyone say they hate Anthrax. Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer all have haters but never heard hate on Anthrax

since we're already on the topic: five reasons people hate thrash metal (do such people even exist?)

@cristianlopez_8486

8 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately yes, and you can blame the thrash elitists for that. :/

@devinmccreery8003

8 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine A world, either.

Lars Ulrich called. He wants his look back.

Anthrax is the only Big 4 band that has never taken themselves too seriously. That is part of their legacy but they belong as part of the Big 4.

When we were teens, growing in up Perth Downunder, Anthrax fans were called 'Thraxters'. I just googled it. NOTHING at all about Thraxters being associated with the band. So strange. Could we have made it up??? Hmmm...

I’ve never heard anyone say Sound of white noise was a bad album.

First of i am a big Bush fan... John Bush my first metal show was an Antrhax show during the sound of whitenoise tour with Clawfinger as opening act. But i would like to see Kiss get this treatment :)

My late-father and my stepmother hated the living tweedle out of Anthrax. :-( My dad said that Anthrax was a disease that cows get (which is true) while I'm not entirely certain why my stepmother hates them so much. She would cringe if she got wind of my drone videos that had Anthrax choons in them. :-O Fortunately, she's not into KZread and doesn't even know about all of the aerial videos from my drones -- whether they had Anthrax music in them or not. :-)

I think one of Anthrax' main issues is the front man dilemma that rears its ugly head every several years and divides the fanbase all over again. Some of the more extreme thrash crowd think Joey's vocals are too clean and rock oriented for thrash and others think Bush's vocals made them a metal/grunge hybrid. And then there's Turbin, of course, but I don't think he had enough impact in the band to have his own following really. Full disclosure, I'm in Camp Belladonna, but the other guys served the songs they sang well enough too. The other 3 bands have instrument playing front men and have consistently had the same voice for their entire history and vocals are never as out front with the others as it is with Anthrax. And for people jumping on Scott Ian being a douche I'd argue that he's nowhere in the same league of douchery as Lars, Kerry, or Dave. Which reminds me, bass players are always the coolest member of just about any band. Wonder why? Anyway, I still love all 4 of these bands and they all deserve the honor of being called "Big 4" in my book based on album sales alone. Testament, Exodus, and Overkill are all great too, but need not apply until their album and concert sales surpass Anthrax.

Should be a big 6 with Testament and Exodus!

Honestly, I prefer Stormtroopers of Death (Anthrax crossover thrash side project)

How could someone hate Anthrax? I like the thickness of the sound on Sound Of White Noise. Great album!!

Anthrax definitely belongs in the big 4. If you wanted a Big 5 Exodus could be added considering they’ve been around the longest, since 1980, and they’re great as well.