Thank you so much for this video. I was about to purchase it, but I am not going to now. Your honesty is appreciated.

The idea of spending another $800 a year for their software that I don't even want to use, just to have it unlock the tracking whats needed for a sim, sounds crazy.

You answered a question that I’ve asked on other reviews and never got an answer. The issue that you can’t use your phone as hot spot makes this a no go for me. Thank you.

I would never buy a product where it requires subscription. Thanks for your review. I now am going to buy Garmin R10.

Great video, thanks!

Awesome video 💯

Great information! I was about to return my SkyTrak and get one…but at $800/year, I can buy new clubs every year and probably be happier…and I’m a Mac guy, so no PC here, unless I hijack my son’s gaming computer…

Good review, you missed the other big reason. You can’t use it outside of the USA. I can pack my Mevo+ in suite case and take it anywhere. Crazy that this product is limited to the US and you are force to buy a full GC3 or GC quad.

love mine and unlocked it after they offered 1k off the unlocked and never had any issues but for some heard multiple issues

Thanks I'm trying to just throw one down and hit. Maybe the skytrak is a better unit for me.

I just wish I’d seen your video before I traded (Gave to my brother) my SkyTrak and bought a GC3. I had heard not a nary of a negative thought about the device and they had a “Black Friday” deal for $1000 off so I made an impulse decision and bought the GC3. All of the comments (except the GC3 was easy to set up) are valid. Even worse you are severely limited in the sim SW you can get. EACH additional course to the ten provided, four of which are ‘fictional’, costs between $150 and a whopping $750. The TGC and E6 SW I had on SkyTrak were much easier to play and a lot more fun, sigh. Anyway, thanks for a great video.

Do you have a recommendation of launch monitors that go beside you other than this? Cheaper preferred

Good to hear the true cost of having this vs other similar devices.

I own (and love) the GC3, and this is a good video. If you want professional grade accuracy on path, CHS, ball speed, spin rate, spin axis, and horizontal and vertical launch angles and need a camera LM for use indoors in a limited space, the GC3 is going to be far and away your best choice. If you don't need professional grade precision and/or radar would work, there are other drastically cheaper options. The tech is going to keep getting better and cheaper too.

@winer5342

Жыл бұрын

The GC3 is an unlocked launch pro

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Thank you very much for this review! I was disappointed to learn through you your review that this Bushnell/GC3 is not compatible with iOS and projection. I’m a 1.4 handicap in the market for the Bushnell/GC3. I thought it was kind of odd that Bushnell made a copy of the GC3 but finally found out they bought out Foresight which makes total sense. At $7000 today for the GC3/Bushnell buyout with club data plus the now $500 per year subscription it would take you 7 years of subscription based play to see the ROI on up front cost of the unit. I can’t stand subscriptions so I’m going to bite the bullet. Thanks again

@breakingeighty

Ай бұрын

Let me know what you think! And yeah subscriptions are super frustrating, but it does provide different structure for people who want it - so its nice to have options I suppose!

Please help me, how is this different, better to than the skytrak? Have a subscription to E6 already. Why did you not mention Skytrak?

What’s the break-even mark for the Eye-Mini? $4500 but $250/year

If I just wanted yardage and ball flight, is their a subscription for that and how much is it annually?

so i have been researching for a while now on the launch monitors, i really want to get something which can give me the most accuurate data to help with me fixing my slicing of the ball when hitting a driver. going to the range is not easy but i do have free time inbetween my day to hit some balls around. it would be great if you make a video showing if the gc3/bushnell detects slicing or beginner golf shots , even a comparison of how the launch monitors detect poor golfing shots

@ricardofmartinez8693

Жыл бұрын

it detects all of that and much much more spin , angle of attack , club patch, launch angle , ball speed , club speed, carry distance , total distance , etc , etc... its a great product. I have one and vouch for it. It is super accurate , same as trackman or GCquad He makes some good points but in my experience this is the most accurate and best launch monitor next to the 18k GCQuad or Trackman.

great info - 1k annual subscription just to use this - are you kidding me?!! Skytrak is the sweet spot between the Garmin and the Buschnell. it's under 2k and gives you full stats forever for free. for $100 per year you get more like club fitting and some challenge stuff (but optional) or $100 a year for e6. Gives excellent data and very accurate imo

SOOOOOOOOOOO glad I watched this. I was all on board until you said PC. That is the ultimate dealbreaker. I am sure this is going to sound snobby, but it is still the truth, most people that can afford $7k for a golf simulator is not rocking a gaming PC. I have 3 or 4 MacBook pros around the house, my daily driver is the MBP M2 Max, zero PCs.

I’m looking for a launch monitor with only the driving range view to see shot shape? Is there one that’s accurate that doesn’t have a subscription that will do the driving range view?

@breakingeighty

Жыл бұрын

Checkout the Flightscope Mevo Plus or Garmin R10

How much functionality can I get out of this with an iPad. I do not have a gaming computer /indoor simulator room.

@breakingeighty

Жыл бұрын

If you don't need simulator features, then the iPad will work great.

Is there any difference (features - updates etc) between a fully open Bushnell and the GC3? Also, which monitor is the quickest to show on the screen? I've seen some on line where they hit the ball and 5 seconds or more before you see the shot.

@breakingeighty

2 жыл бұрын

As I understand it, no, they are exactly the same. When you boot up the Launch Pro it says "Foresight Sports." You use the Foresight app for everything, so I believe it's literally the same hardware. I havent used the GC3 personally, so I can't tell you which one is fastest. But I'd assume it's pretty much the same for both.

@sctexan5392

2 жыл бұрын

@@breakingeighty thanks, what about response time with the other launch monitors you use?

@jl9752

2 жыл бұрын

Once you buy the full unlock, the FSX 2020 you download is the same one that you download for GC3 (whereas the subscription based FSX 2020 is a different executable file). So as far as FSX 2020 usage is concerned, it's the same. However, with GC3, you can also use FSX play which is a simulation with much better graphics, although there are certain features within FSX 2020 simulation that is better (some of this is subjective). FSX Play should be available for BLP in the future according to the FSX play page of the Foresight website, but no date is given. I've also noticed that the number of courses you get with the GC3 essentials plus bundle is 11 courses, vs. the 9 I got when I unlocked my BLP, but that doesn't bother me much personally (for all I know, it could be a documentation error). I personally don't think Bushnell (who owns Foresight) had developed a very robust plan on how to differentiate the two (effectively same) models from the consumer's perspective, other than one offering the subscription option. The documentation is poor, it often refers to documents in the Foresight website for instructions, etc., while Foresight refers you to contact Bushnell support if you own BLP instead of GC3. It almost feels like they're pointing fingers at each other, and not acting like a unified company. The product, despite some initial issues that I had that seems to have been solved by recent firmware update, is solid. I personally don't think the FSX Pro is all that difficult to understand, my only issue with it is random disconnects via wifi (so using FSX2020 with hardwired connection to the unit is the most stable, and obviously FSX2020 has lot more features than FSX pro). With a recent sale they had on full unlock, I saved over 1500 over the GC3 (although even the GC3s were on sale for a short period of time), and the unit itself I got it sales tax free. It's been tremendously helpful (and a great time saver, which helps to justify the cost) to see my swing path and angle of attack with some swing changes I'm making.

@sctexan5392

2 жыл бұрын

@@jl9752 thanks, I figured that there had to be something different, even if it was small.

@rubelukeable

2 жыл бұрын

@@jl9752 just bought this and it’s way better and more accurate than the Mevo plus, etc. i got mine from Playbetter (no tax) and the download from Bushnell is tax free as well when you buy the Gold package. Saved $1500 as well. Setup was actually easy and I just use it for training outdoors and get ACCURATE NUMBERS!! I have at least 4-5 radar based launch monitors that I’ve purchased in the past 5 years and wasted probably $1500.

You just saved me money not at all usable outside USA plus all the extras just doesn't make sense.I would rather just get the flight scope or trackman 4. Too bad this company did think of all of this could reduce potential sales.

Are you able to project onto a monitor the driving range without a PC? My other concern is based on the subscription fee it appears that five years is how long they expect this device to live. If you spend $2500 on a TV and it fails in five years, you’re pretty disappointed. If you spend $8000 on a launch monitor and it dies after five years, that would be extremely disappointing.

@breakingeighty

Жыл бұрын

Personally I dont see any reason why this wouldnt last far more than 5 years, so I dont know if that would be a buying concern for me personally. But if you're going to do anything simulator related, then you'll need a PC. If you have the right cord/projector you can probably find a way to project the ipad app onto a screen or monitor, but that will just essentially give you the driving range setup, not actually playable simulator courses.

I want to buy this thing with the intention of unlocking it

I had no desire to buy one of these anyway I just like your videos, so I watched. After reason #3 I was starting to wonder why anyone would want one of these. Lol.

@soupy01833

2 жыл бұрын

because he made another video on why you should

@scottallen606

2 жыл бұрын

@@soupy01833 like I said I originally had no desire to buy one anyway. Thanks though 👍🏼

Thank you i almost bought one.

Which one will accurately show left and right direction the best?

@LocationRebel

2 жыл бұрын

The best? Launch pro or Mevo plus in the sub 3k price point

@ricardofmartinez8693

Жыл бұрын

the launch pro /gc3 are the same and their software is the same as golf fitters. With the PC you get the screen and shot tracer with all the stats

Is there a way to jail break this thing?

from a simulator aspect garage setup. using it to help dial in my swing and have some fun as well with friends. Lets say I do have a gaming PC, and I spend the extra scratch for a subscription. How much more will I be taking advantage of the Bushnell Launch Pro setup in comparison with other options from a simulator aspect?

@evansnyder5948

2 жыл бұрын

More accuracy, less missed shots, and all of the added stats/features from the subscription (biggest being you need to buy at least the silver membership to do simulation and get 3D ball flight)

@omikurita

2 жыл бұрын

@@evansnyder5948 I heard the Bushnell Launch Pro does not provide Face Angle. Is this true?

I have searched for months, but can't find the result anywhere. Every video clip on youtube compare Bushnell Launch Pro to Trackman and GC Quard indoor, and yes, it is on par with those. The thing is nobody compare bushnell data to real ball flight. Such as, if the ball fy 3 degree to the left, does bushnell show 3 degree to the left? If ball flight has a draw, does bushness also show a draw. I had Skytrack, distance and backspin are all about correct, but the direction that skytrack shows can be off quite a bit. Would you please take Bushnell on the range outdoor and compare the data to real ball flight? If confirm good, I will buy Bushnell.

@amoslrogers

Жыл бұрын

Yes the bushnell does the only difference between this the gc quad is no loft/lie face angle impact location or closure rate the bushnell is very accurate exactly the same technology as the gc3

@amoslrogers

Жыл бұрын

And I believe the channel let’s play thru has a video outside with the bushnell or find one of the gc3 they are the same device

@amoslrogers

Жыл бұрын

Here’s the video kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqV9s8RxlJaXnqQ.html

@ricardofmartinez8693

Жыл бұрын

yes it will show if you top the ball , chili dip the ball , hook , slice and the hole 9 yards , 30yrd wedge shots with spin etc...etc.... You do need to use the software like FSX pro , FSX play or FSX 2020 and use a PC just like at the stores or the golf fitters.

@huikh2r

Жыл бұрын

@@amoslrogers Many thanks. I posted a question there :"You two 7i shots look straight, but Bushnell show big right for those two shots. Driver seems directions are off too. If Bishness can't even get direction right, who cares about the distance?"

The reasons didn't get any shorter today after the BLP started extorting money to play GSPro for another $500 per year.

Subscription, set up is cumbersome, needs a gaming pc for simulator, fx pro phone app is not intuitive, launch monitor is overkill for many people

the subscription model has to stop

@garrypb

Жыл бұрын

It won't stop while people keep paying it. Capitalism, which I agree with by the way, has problems, one of which is retailers selling / marketing products for the highest profit margin possible. Which is easy to do now that most companies also directly retail as well as wholesale.

Do you get clubhead data?

@soupy01833

2 жыл бұрын

you get some club head data with the sub.

@3o1Golf

2 жыл бұрын

you do not get face angle

Dang if it was 2999, now it’s 3999, crazy price jump in a few months

@hecticphusion

Жыл бұрын

And now it’s $2999 again lol

this is kind of misleading - without any subscription you get 7 data points and the driving range, and with the basic package you get all the data points. Gold only gets you FSX Pro (sim software with 10 courses). Most people opt for the basic ($250/yr) then also get a different sim software like TGC or GSpro (unlimited courses) which are both better then FSX in my opinion. Still cheaper that 800/yr but you're about $500/yr give or take.

@breakingeighty

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, Frank! Since I recorded this Bushnell changed their whole pricing structure. I’ll be doing an update this next month!

I agree for extended features (new courses) available by subscription… but subscription for the bases features…. Deal breaker. And stupid decision… even teachers how would like it decided to not buy it…

Others can use E6 connect - true- but E6 connect is a total joke as a piece of software. I tries the SkyTrak plus and have given up, trying to use the😢heap of junk that is actually nowhere near a beta release imho I finally gave up and demanded my money back and decided to bite the bullet and go to the Bushnell with a gaming pc.

Garmin app is $10 a month. $250 a year is not bad at all…

@breakingeighty

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Bushnell pricing and subscription tiers have changed a bit since I recorded this video. $250 for the base subscription which gets you all the metrics you need is annoying, but reasonable. But if you want any simulator features, you'll have to pay much more.

It’s 2000 at Dicks now

No iPad-Mac support? Where those techniciens came from ? They may be used Windows 95 on their PC😂

i have the r10 and its useless... cant read shot shapes, woefully incorrect distances at the range, picks up other peoples shots.. updated software, recalibrated every session and measured height and distance away with a measuring tape and its still just not very good

If ur a pro sure.. get it fully u locked.. best have a gaming computer but I’m a mid handicap at best.. and I absolutely hated this unit.. app was so bad and the subscription was a rip. Get the garmin r10. Gave me what I needed to improve.

@soupy01833

2 жыл бұрын

the r10 estimates spin and is not good on spin axis. it is good for the money but not going to compete with the gc3 or BLP

@richg7264

2 жыл бұрын

@@soupy01833 r10 gets me in the ball park.. i can tell by shot shape and distance if I had a good back spin number.. maybe you got the money for the BLP, but I didn't think the unit, the subscription, getting a gaming computer was worth it for someone like me, who will prob peak at mid handicap. spend the money on a lesson or two and rent trackman time to check your numbers.

@soupy01833

2 жыл бұрын

@@richg7264 i agree. it is great for the money. does what it supposed to do. I like playing indoor sim courses and the r10 would not cut it as well for me

I wouldn’t even consider it since you have to buy a subscription for using the damn thing. This will be a total flop

I'll pass. Mevo+ all the way!

That's all you had to say $800 a year

Installation has been a nightmare for my LP. The software/App is not mature or bug-free yet. This is not a consumer ready product.

Too bad its region locked to USA only

@breakingeighty

8 ай бұрын

Yeah it definitely is. Not sure why they do that, can't imagine there are any hardware issues with doing so.

@adrianmack3

8 ай бұрын

Licensing agreements with Foredight for sure. Oh well, I'll likely get the MEVO + when I'm ready to invest that money. No subscription fees is big.

So… the professional device requires professional knowledge and time and energy…. 👌🏽

Review is dead on. I will be returning mine. Cumbersome is a light way of saying the set up is ridiculously frustrating and I'm very tech savvy. I constantly disconnects, data is anything but accurate, and nobody answers customer service calls or emails. I honestly don't know how pga and Lpga players actually use this thing. Not to mention it doesn't recognize every shot, even with the stupid dots you have to put on your clubs-that wear off quickly. Do not buy...either go cheap with the Mevo, or drop your wad on a trackman if the data and gaming means that much to you.

cause macs suck