5 Problems with SUPER TRAINERS

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Running Shoe Talk is back. Today's subject is Super Trainers. I would tell you all five problems but then why even watch this content I worked oh so hard to create. Not that anyone reads the description but if you do, I buried ten thousand dollars in backyard under the apple tree. Just kidding. I don't have that much money nor do I own an apple tree. I do own a lot of running shoes. In this video I mention the SC Trainer v1 and v2, the Boston 12, the Hoka Skyward X, the Adizero Prime X Strung, the Endorphin speed 1 and the Endorphin Pro 4, all of which I own. This is just my opinion. I may be wrong. It happens a lot. But it is my experience.
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Shoes discussed in this video:
Saucony Endorphin Speed, Saucony Endorphin Pro, Adidas Boston 12, The New Balance SC Trainer V1 and V2, the Adidas Prime X Strung, the HOKA Skyward X.
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  • @SagasuRunning
    @SagasuRunningАй бұрын

    💯💯💯There are more than 5 problems with super trainers. This is a good start... You missed the real first super trainer... Super Trainers - How did we get here and what are they? kzread.info/dash/bejne/maR-1dKNh5nPdrw.html

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    Nice! Got something to listen to on the way home from work 🧑‍🍳 💋

  • @SagasuRunning

    @SagasuRunning

    Ай бұрын

    @@MidLifeRunner This one has lots of graphics and charts… there is a progression.

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    @@SagasuRunning it’s crazy how much we were on the same page. Ultra genre/mad max etc… since I’m newer to running , I really love the historical context you give in a lot of the videos

  • @noeidee924
    @noeidee924Ай бұрын

    “When everyone is super, no one will be.. “ one of my favorite quotes from the Incredibles.

  • @MilesLangley
    @MilesLangleyАй бұрын

    You’ve clearly nailed the KZreadr sit down transition.

  • @tgibridays

    @tgibridays

    Ай бұрын

    It's one of my favorite gags. It must be tiring to film though. 😂

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you, Miles. It is really just preventative anterior pelvic tilt work I should be doing in the gym but I’m too busy talking carbon plates into the ether

  • @nicholas5396
    @nicholas5396Ай бұрын

    I got 5 on it for the inevitable Neo Vista super trainer review ❤

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    🙌🏼 Nick at this point you’ve almost bought the shoe for me. It. Is. Inevitable

  • @AlistairEldred
    @AlistairEldredАй бұрын

    Heartily agree - The Endorphin Pro 3's are mu supers.

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    Stellar choice .

  • @jameswestmoreland9717

    @jameswestmoreland9717

    Ай бұрын

    Ok, you misspelled my. I thought that you were informing us of the latest, tech to to hit the market: MU. I should know better, I miss-spell muh shoes all the time. MUH: Southern speak.

  • @i.p2088
    @i.p2088Ай бұрын

    Alphafly V1 is the definition of SUPER 🎉🎉🎉

  • @Joe_Souza
    @Joe_SouzaАй бұрын

    Love that you bleeped the wrong word.😂

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    It’s in the details for me 🧐

  • @xti2020
    @xti2020Ай бұрын

    Been looking forward to the next one since the last one

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    Good to hear. I’ll have to make these part of my regular rotation

  • @tono1665
    @tono1665Ай бұрын

    True Words 👏🏻. Interesting perspective

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @nicholas5396
    @nicholas5396Ай бұрын

    That og endo speed was special for sure🎉

  • @LuisBecerra79
    @LuisBecerra79Ай бұрын

    No no no you are special 🤜🏼🤛🏼😁

  • @mattbeier
    @mattbeierАй бұрын

    I would consider the ASICS Magic Speed 3 as a super trainer. Race day upper, superior training foam that feels great with the carbon plate, and a thicker outsole in the same configuration as the MetaSpeed shoes. It feels great at all paces for me as a midfoot striker, but the roll off the toe makes you want to push the pace. A great all around shoe and reminds me of the feeling I got with the Endo Speed 1.

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for looking out Matt beier. Similar to this year, I always run out of money when the Magic speed releases and never circle back for it. You had me at endo speed 1. I’ll have to pick it up when it’s on sale - maybe instead of socks or cologne I’ll get magic speed 3s for Father’s Day

  • @mattbeier

    @mattbeier

    Ай бұрын

    @@MidLifeRunner That sounds like a great plan. After seeing the Magic Speed 4 and the massive changes, I would rather have the Magic Speed 3. It is a slightly more aggressive shoe compared to the Endo Speed 1, but it rolls so nicely at speed especially when you hit that sweet spot. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it in the future.

  • @mattwells4294
    @mattwells4294Ай бұрын

    Why do I feel like I just went to a therapy session?

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    That’ll be 40 dollars, Matt. Please, I need more running shoes

  • @JohnBirtchetSharpe
    @JohnBirtchetSharpeАй бұрын

    Adding a superlative at the start of each shoe name let's you charge 20-30 dollars RRP .. didn't you realise it. .. Funny enough my favorite trainer of the last 12 months was the topo cyclone 02 .. a low stack of pebax with no need for a plate as it was low enough to the ground not to need a stability aid .. go figure .. quite like the rebel v4 at the moment (and yes I do have a wider foot) , a bit thicker but blends a little peba into eva for a nice but of return.. Likely I am just not super enough to see the justification for the 70's 300g + platform trainers .

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    I ran out of money before I could get the topo cyclone and then it wasn’t available in my size. I really want to try that shoe. The rebel v3 was one of my top shoes of 2022 and I bought a back up pair just to remember it as shoes get more and more structured. I want to make a video on what is becoming a more traditional “low stack” running shoe. I like the brooks Hyperion tempo, the trinoosa, and to a lesser extent the vomero 16 and floatride energy 5 from Reebok. I use them for the gym and for the treadmill on Mondays .

  • @i.p2088
    @i.p2088Ай бұрын

    Wonder how the Mizuno Neo Vista will be?

  • @nicholas5396

    @nicholas5396

    Ай бұрын

    Really really lookin good so far on other reviews.

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    I do wonder that a lot. Heard a little mixed reviews but mostly positive . I wonder if the foam is as dense as the sc trainer v1 with good rebound or if it’s a bit softer and I will sink into it more. Only one way to find out

  • @nicholas5396

    @nicholas5396

    Ай бұрын

    @@MidLifeRunner 😂😂😂. There's always posh mart if it doesn't work out

  • @TimGrose
    @TimGroseАй бұрын

    So with the likes of the Endorphin Pro 4 do you still "like" it and are pleased you got it and will get good use out of it despite seemingly not wanting to use it for its apparent reason - to race in? Or is it more you will use it as it is OK and may as well get some use out of it but really you wished had not bought it?

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    Im going to have to circle back to this one as I haven’t run in the shoe at various paces enough to be sure of a final verdict. Confident in the first impressions but I need to race in them. (I do have a 10k coming up). These shoes were actually sent to me (not by Saucony but still, a rarity. So, it does influence the answer, meaning, if I had bought them, I would have likely anticipated a race day shoe (as advertised) and felt some way about them coming up short maybe. As it stands, I had no expectations when receiving them and I’m grateful to test them out. That being said - I do like them more than the pro 3, which gave my Achilles some fits and was a little too stiff and controlling. The more pliability of v4 is a positive for my foot 🦶. I feel like I have more control. I’ll do a full review later in the year at some point. How’s your training coming along ?

  • @TimGrose

    @TimGrose

    Ай бұрын

    @@MidLifeRunner ah thanks. Part of the reason for the question might be apparent in my next video. I quite liked the Pro 3 and even did one low key race in it and some intervals. It was OK for "easy" but not really a shoe I would consider reaching for too often for that. So I decided to pass on the Pro 4 as although looks promising felt it might well just turn out to be another expensive super trainer for me. Running not going so well. Got a bit of a foot/Achilles/arch issue so your plantar vid struck accord as is "sort of" a similar area.

  • @allheartrc
    @allheartrcАй бұрын

    Lookin razor and looking like sub3 is right around the corner!

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    MK! You think Cole or Evan can come pace my sub 18 attempt on Sunday? 🤣 I relate to their workout videos because we are running such similar splits, even though I’m training more by effort

  • @i.p2088
    @i.p2088Ай бұрын

    I have the Cielo X1.. Very close to the Alphafly V1 so Supershoe?

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    I’ve heard it’s got a great underfoot feel but it’s too heavy for the marathon distance. I will purchase it when it goes on sale

  • @KeithEstep
    @KeithEstepАй бұрын

    Nike Tempo was the first super trainer imo

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    You’re right. It was already out when I got into running so I missed the train. Endorphin Speed was the 2nd one

  • @bassgroup6841
    @bassgroup6841Ай бұрын

    The problem with last year raceday shoes is that the aren't available anymore. Or you have euro size 50.

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    😂 that’s true . They do sell out awfully fast. And ASICS run a tight inventory so they’re never on sale

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker9999Ай бұрын

    Thank you I thought I was the only crazy person who bought the Endorphine Pro 3 & Deviate Nitro Elite 1, both on sale for training only. I have not picked my race shoe yet. Super trainers are glorified daily trainer. I wish I could buy all of them. But I really don't think they are necessary in your rotation for any purpose. Mach 6 Rebel V4 Novablast 4 Triumph 21 can do everything a supertrainer does.

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    💯I would take the Novablast 4 over the Boston 12 and sc trainer v2 any day. I bought the deviate nitro elite v1 for threshold runs too. The sc elite v3 is a zesty lil number too that doesn’t have super shoe punch but I love training in it . Nimble.

  • @snowwalker9999

    @snowwalker9999

    Ай бұрын

    @@MidLifeRunner Great minds think alike, midlife's wisdom. I've been looking for a SC elite 3 my size. I moved a little too slow.

  • @snowwalker9999

    @snowwalker9999

    Ай бұрын

    @@MidLifeRunner Midlife's wisdom. Great minds think alike. I moved a little too slow, can't find a SC Elite V3 my size but glad I got the other shoes.

  • @jameswestmoreland9717
    @jameswestmoreland9717Ай бұрын

    My beef: Super trainers that use the same foam, even a similar/same plate as the company's super shoe/ racer. So gues what? They wear out as quickly as the racer models, maybe more quickly with a lot of "-plodding miles".

  • @i.p2088
    @i.p2088Ай бұрын

    Mizuno wave Rebellion Pro V1 is a Supershoe.

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    Yes I have only tried the 2 but it may be my favorite super shoe this year

  • @jonhopkins6061
    @jonhopkins6061Ай бұрын

    Prime x 2 strung my guy

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    The best of the mad max shoes. I like it over SC Trainer v1 and skyward x

  • @ThomasWake1
    @ThomasWake1Ай бұрын

    I find the latest obsession with super high tech gear in running to be kinda gross. Whatever happened to soul runners?

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    I imagine there will be a trend eventually that returns to more minimal and soft surface running. I’m here for all of it

  • @Wings_nut
    @Wings_nutАй бұрын

    I will not use a plated shoe during a training block. I don't want the shoe to do the work for me. I'll only use a plated shoe during a race when it matters.

  • @tav4755
    @tav4755Ай бұрын

    would you say theres a plethora of super trainers guapo

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    ☠️ oh yes - el jefe always carries a plethora of super trainers

  • @user-sx8rv5pz7u
    @user-sx8rv5pz7uАй бұрын

    Dont like to bulky shoes

  • @benstevens1718
    @benstevens1718Ай бұрын

    I prefer duper trainers...

  • @MidLifeRunner

    @MidLifeRunner

    Ай бұрын

    🤣

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