If a “hockey purist” says fighting doesn’t have a place in the game, then they aren’t a hockey fan lmao

@Rowsy91

4 ай бұрын

I would say they can definitely be a fan but they most certainly arent a "purist" if they want it out of the game lol The purists would be the ones trying to keep it in the game.

@maxpowr90

4 ай бұрын

@@Rowsy91 Agree. A "purist" would likely endorse a goon going after a skill guy; which Pat and PK alluded to what the NHL doesn't want to happen. I much rather leave the Don Cherrys and Mike Milburys in the past though.

@stephencoffin226

4 ай бұрын

Or they haven’t played 🇨🇦🏒

@HDreamer

4 ай бұрын

There's a place, but a lot of fights today are just perfomative art, trying to avenge a weird code that I don't remember from even ten years back. Every hard hit warrants a fight now apparently and if you don't, you get this. (and yes I know Rempe went over the line last game, but that happened after the Devils designated fighter tried to fight him, so that wasn't the reason and that dude wasn't even on the Devils that long at that point)

@blakeley38

4 ай бұрын

For those people who don’t know fighting in hockey is part of the game to essentially referee the game . Dirty plays can end Careers and players on the bench and on the ice c it yet the ref might not ! There’s a reason the nhl has fighting just like the hockey beer league

Fighting is what keeps idiots honest.

@highdesertbiker

3 ай бұрын

And hockey amazing

@michaelmacintyre6996

Ай бұрын

Love your comment, hope you don’t mind, but I’m using it from now on.

Gerry Cheevers once said "two people fighting is not violence in hockey. It might be in tennis or bowling, but its not in hockey"

@CubeInspector

3 ай бұрын

Cue "what is violence" video clip

Bring on Matt Rempe, guy has more penalty minutes than ice time

@nahnyabuhizniz4542

4 ай бұрын

Rent free bubba

@a.d.s7077

4 ай бұрын

@@nahnyabuhizniz4542I’m not a hockey fan but when I do watch it does always seem like rempe is just fighting and not playing 😂 it’s actually pretty dope

@tmzz3609

4 ай бұрын

This was his 3rd time playing the Devils in his short career. Kicked out of all 3 games........ Actually impressive

@dustinb1070

4 ай бұрын

Yeah for a rookie he did a lot this series.

@Xr3737

4 ай бұрын

hell yea brother. let the Rempdog eat

This is why your sports show is the best!!! Just by saying the words Hockey is Awesome, You win!!!! Best show of all sports shows!!!!

Grateful for Pat covering this. It was awesome!!

I’m a Canadian, played hockey since I was 4. Fighting is necessary. It stops the majority of cheap shots and dirty plays. When you know if you do something dirty to a player especially a star player that you have to drop the gloves you will think otherwise. Gotta let the players police the game. Go Oilers go.

@bparks_5095

4 ай бұрын

Not only that but each player has a deadly weapon in their hands and 2 on their feet. With such an emotional sport, fighting is a necessity to prevent further escalations.

@braydondale654

3 ай бұрын

As a oiler hater (guy from Sask and is a stars fan) this comment is pure truth.

@Big_T4567

3 ай бұрын

Been playing since I was 2 1/2 go avs love fighting

Testicular fortitude. What a phrase from PK there.

@codyswaggerty4745

3 ай бұрын

been around forever

@bobbydrex5268

3 ай бұрын

@@codyswaggerty4745 love it lol

This was incredible. Greatest sport in the world!

Most humans can’t even stand on skates let alone brawl

“There’s a element of toughness and testicular fortitude that goes into being a hockey player.” -PK Subban, 2024 9:15

@silverwolfe3636

3 ай бұрын

Ironic coming from PK.

Pretty sure hockey purest wants fights cause the furthest you go back in time the more fighting you get.

This is no longer a issue now 😂this keeps this game clean 🇨🇦🇺🇸

Best segment in sports news right here! HOCKEY IS AWESOME!!!

Thank you Pat for talking hockey!

"fantastic bald head there" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The only thing Pat got wrong is that hockey purists love this stuff. Hockey fans who don't like fighting probably don't have hockey as their favorite. Maybe soccer or ballet instead.

@shady610

4 ай бұрын

Or actual fighters fighting. Not arm punches holding shirts. Those kind of sports.

@ericschmitz2529

3 ай бұрын

@@shady610you do realize they’re on skates right?

@shady610

3 ай бұрын

@ericschmitz2529 Yes. Which is why it's arm punches, and if I want to watch real fighters, I watch boxers and martial artists. Not skaters, pulling shirts.

“When I hit a guy on the ice and we fight everybody yells and cheers. When I hit a guy in a bar for being disrespectful everybody calls the cops. On the ice I can be me. that’s why I play hockey.” ~Shoresy

@apblolol

3 ай бұрын

i love the rest of that quote where he says beforehand, if a guy is acting like an ass you get to sucker punch em to keep em in line.

the daft punk in PK's background haha

That angle on top of MSG is what the broadcast producer should of stuck with

Hockey is the only sport that has its players police with their fists, but they're not the only sport that does it. I'd much rather go toe to toe throwing hands, vs baseball, where we use 100 mph projectiles to send messages.

@THIS---GUY

4 ай бұрын

lacrosse does the same

@MattBuild4

4 ай бұрын

It happens in other sports too. Australian footy is fairly common. Scuffles will happen, but the moment you break the unwritten rules and you can have 10 on 10 fights and they will still play the game with it going on.

Hockey playoffs when rivals meet are awesome

Canadian here, started playing hockey when I was 4. When I was in 12th grade I was the co-captain of our high school soccer team. The other co-captain and I were having a major on going disagreement about the team that finally boiled over and mid practice the 2 of us walked to the middle of the pitch and we agreed it was time to settle this thing. I looked at him and just said "hockey code" and he agreed. We wailed on each other for about a minute, felt like 20, and he went down and I stopped. He got up offered his hand and said "okay we do it your way". We finished practice and I offered him a drive home, which he took. I'm 56 now, we still go for beers when we're in the same town. If you're a Canadian the Hockey culture bubbles over into everything else.

Rangers and Devils love doing this.

@i4nix13

4 ай бұрын

Been that way since 1982 when the Colorado Rockies got bought out, moved to NJ and became the Devils. Original 6 team vs new kid on the block. Been a rivalry since inception.

@666kingdrummer

4 ай бұрын

As a Devils fan myself, you have no idea what its like to constantly be in NYC's shadow, Its beyond irritating.

If there was no fighting, players would be taking cheap shots and not have to worry about pay back.

@TripAces

4 ай бұрын

In a league with a stick and blades your fists are the third most lethal weapon on the ice.

@shady610

4 ай бұрын

But there is fighting. So the consequences don't really matter.

@bipolarpunt5721

4 ай бұрын

@@shady610 Yep, expect to get back what you give. I play rugby, respect the other team or get disrespected.

@Calkirk19

4 ай бұрын

@@bipolarpunt5721 Except they don't care if they get it back. I'm not against fighting in hockey but let's not pretend it's a deterrent at all, because part of the tough guy culture is not caring if you have to fight.

@ericschmitz2529

3 ай бұрын

@@TripAcesno hockey player would EVER use their skates as weapons and it’s very rare for someone to use their stick as one

Hockey is a MAN sport

@Supperdude9

4 ай бұрын

Hey if a girl wants to play, they can. Haven't you seen Mighty Ducks?

@lelouchvibritannia4028

4 ай бұрын

He means compared to other professional sports leagues. ​@@Supperdude9

@eibbor171

4 ай бұрын

@@Supperdude9 if she dies..she dies

@youknowimright.3137

4 ай бұрын

NBA basketball is a sissy sport/league.

@holymacarenafin2319

3 ай бұрын

Figure skating with support stick? Such manly sport. I love it tho

I went to a fight yesterday, a hockey game broke out.

@ajohnson9630

4 ай бұрын

Old joke...

@sneakertsar

4 ай бұрын

@@ajohnson9630 older than both of us but still true.

@WeirsBeard

4 ай бұрын

Oldie but goodie

@quintinfink12

4 ай бұрын

@@ajohnson9630 buzzkill

@ajohnson9630

4 ай бұрын

@@WeirsBeard Maybe I just have better expectations for a KZread comment section

THEY BROUGHT THEIR F***ING TOYS WITH'EM!

@jmillerMAGA

4 ай бұрын

Buy you a soda....

Jackie Moon, LET'S GET TROPICAL!

i think i speak for most rangers fans when i say i absolutely love rempe, but ill be the first to admit that the hit on siegenthaler was something that never shouldve happened. it was a dirty play, and hopefully the suspension served as a wakeup call. with jacob trouba on his team, he has a great coach to teach him how to hit hard but clean, and i hope he is with us for a long time

@Ell-J

4 ай бұрын

Well the devils deserve worst. Remember Scott Stevens? How often he played dirty against the Rangers,and,most of the time got away with it? I don't want anyone's career to end,or God forbid die,but the stupid devils fans loved it when Stevens was doing it,but be bitches when Rempe does it to them. Devils fans,you can't have cake,and eat it too.

@beamerball666

4 ай бұрын

As a Rangers fan I agree, next season when he's on the ice he needs to focus on solid checks that make sense within the flow of the game and crashing the net in the offensive zone. Also, for the love of god keep his elbows tucked.

From a NJ Devils fan, I can say this was so fun to see. Finally the Devils were fighting for something this season.

"Testicular fortitude" bahahahahah😂😂😂😂😂😂

We're Talking Hockey 🎵

"Darren Pang there... Fantastic Bald head!"...🤣

Pat, you are awesome! As a hockey fan I love your takes and love your “Hockey is Awesome” segments

Hockey is the ultimate sport 😤🇨🇦

"let me get the hell out of the way" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hockey is an awesome sport. As someone that grew up playing soccer it shares some of that beauty. It’s impressive what these guys do on the ice. It’s like soccer, lacrosse, and football all in one.

@dooderscoot2900

4 ай бұрын

Hockey actually evolved from lacrosse....

That was the best game ever man !!

Slapshot!!! Lol...

PK Subban has the Daft Punk on in the background lol love it. Listen, there's always two scores every game, there's the goals scored, and then there's the mental score. Hockey needs the fights to settle those scores.

Love seeing some hockey being brought up

LFG Pat!! Lovin that hockey coverage!!

Remember the 97 Avs/Wings retribution at the Joe!

@jmillerMAGA

4 ай бұрын

March 26.....forever

Trouba and Miller destroyed their opponents. lol

@johnbrowne2170

4 ай бұрын

Miller beat a guy who isn't a fighter.

@toaster492

4 ай бұрын

​@johnbrowne2170 miller isnt a fighter

@johnbrowne2170

4 ай бұрын

@Siksdev Yeah, I forgot. His name is K'Andre.

@jmillerMAGA

4 ай бұрын

Hail

PK blasting Daft Punk in the background lol

Imma have to start watching hockey if this how they getting down 🔥

@TheBootyGoonz

4 ай бұрын

They been getting down like that for decades, my good sir.

@jamarvinb6252

4 ай бұрын

@@TheBootyGoonz I see I been missing out hockey just to me seems like a sport I would enjoy so much more in person but I live in Texas

@TheBootyGoonz

4 ай бұрын

It definitely is. Baseball is 100x better in person, too. But I feel like the better question is why they don’t allow fighting like this in other sports. Is it a deeper reason or is hockey is just different like that.

@aaronvivier8393

4 ай бұрын

​@TheBootyGoonz if you wanna know the history of fighting in hockey I recommend watching "ice guardians " you can thank me later

@aaronvivier8393

4 ай бұрын

Watch "Ice Guardians" awesome documentary about the history of hockey and explains everything your aski g about, you can thank me later ​@@TheBootyGoonz

the trifecta of Rangers vs Devils vs Islanders is a great regional rivalry. never a bad game when any combination of the three play, especially in recent years when all teams have been somewhat real

@666kingdrummer

4 ай бұрын

Don't forgot the Flyers, its a unique 4-way rivalry and its great.

People who want fighting out of Hockey are not true hockey fans. Fighting is part of the culture and should never leave. It's good for the game, good for the fans, and good for the players. It actually makes the game SAFER (except for Rempe since he's on a concussion speed run).

@happysqWid

4 ай бұрын

I'd love elaboration on... well... any of those points lol. I don't necessarily think it's a terrible thing that should be outlawed... but I don't see any good arguments for why, other than: we've always done it so we should get to keep doing it. Good for the game: then why is it only allowed in the men's game, and only at the top level Good for the fans: huh? Good for the players: I can understand this one the most, but it's still not convincing Makes the game SAFER: you're really gonna have to explain that one to me, cuz that's a pretty whacky take.

@jsidkfncjfdldld

4 ай бұрын

​@@happysqWid women hockey is unwatchable bc there is no fighting 😂

@happysqWid

4 ай бұрын

@@jsidkfncjfdldld honestly... solid point lol

@t.s.3628

4 ай бұрын

@@happysqWid 1. Women's Hockey: Has no fighting because that is how it was developed. It also has virtually no hitting/checking. It's the trajectory the women's game took, which is different from the men's. They're essentially two different styles of the same sport. The women's players simply don't want fighting, but they have discussed more hitting, which is already evident in the PWHL. 2. Junior/IIHF/NCAA hockey: For Junior and NCAA Hockey, there is no fighting (fights occasionally do happen, however) for a couple reasons: The obvious one most would point out is concerns about the players being young and having a developing brain. While true, a major reason is that these leagues are significantly less physical than the NHL, which means less necessity to fight (more on this later). The latter is also true for the IIHF, but the IIHF also is largely European, and European hockey developed MUCH differently than North American Hockey. Just because most non-North American Men's leagues are different is not a reason that the NHL should homogenize. The leagues developed differently, like two geographically separated species, creating unique ways to play the game which has only served to grow and evolve the game. It should also be noted that fighting is NOT only at the top level in North America (NHL), but it is also allowed in the AHL and the ECHL. 3. Good for the fans: Obviously, fans love to see a fight. It's entertainment, but true hockey fans also like to see their team's players stand up for each other and answer the bell (agree to fight if they made a dirty hit/play) and they, the fans, respect the opposing team for doing the same. The players respect it, too, which is why you'll often see two players tap each other on the helmets post-fight. 4: Good for the game/players/and safety: Simply put, fighting makes the game safer. Why? It provides players an outlet to police themselves. There are many unwritten rules for fighting. Both for when to fight and how to fight. It's dirty, for example, to swing on a player while he's on the ground. When someone falls down, the fight is usually over. Further, the refs miss A LOT of calls in the NHL--it's a fast, incredibly physical game and there is some level of incompetence--meaning a lot of dirty plays/hits. The NHL is much more physical than other men's pro hockey leagues. This inherently leads to dirty hits, which can be missed by the refs, which can lead to retaliation. Fighting allows players to de-escalate this. If a ref missed a dirty hit, and no one fought, that would lead to a retaliatory dirty and dangerous hit--that's a reality of the game. Fighting allows a controlled environment where two players can settle their differences, and the teams can move on. Often times, after a fight, you'll notice fewer dirty hits in the game as the fight puts the player's emotions back on track (it sparked both teams). It also protects skilled players. Why did no one hit Gretzky? Because he had enforcers who ensured his safety. So, again, Fighting and physical play protect players, especially star players. 6. There are bad fights/bad reasons to fight: These are in the minority, but they happen. Players fighting after an opposing player made a clean hit. Players fighting too often--this is not a major problem as even the league's "Heavyweights" (Deslauriers, Reaves, MacDermid, Foligno, etc.) only fight a handful of times a year. The problem exists with players like Rempe who has fought more than anyone in an incredibly short amount of time, but he is a major outlier right now, which is why he draws a ton of media attention. I agree these issues should be addressed, but the solution is not "No fighting," as that would lead to more dangerous hits. 7. If fighting makes the game safer, why is there less of it?: As stated, fighting is a way for players to police themselves, especially after uncalled dirty hits. Dirty hits, especially uncalled hits to the head, slashing, etc., were much more common in the early 90s to 2010s as players often got away with it or received little in the way of suspension. After that, the NHL cracked down on this and started making it a point to call major and minor penalties on hits to the head and other dirty plays, increased suspensions and fines for these actions, and , before all this, introduced a second referee in the late 90s to help keep track of things as the game is so fast-paced. 8. Culture: You said you don't see any good argument for why, other than: "We've always done it so we should keep doing it." Besides my points above, I never understood why people discredit this opinion. It is part of the culture of hockey. It's part of what makes the sport unique, and it has always been a key component of North American hockey. Why people are so eager to remove something from a culture they barely understand is distressing. As Bill Burr said, "We want to take the fighting out of hockey but not out of boxing?" It's a part of the game. There's a reason to it, there's an art to it, and players and true fans understand the need for its existence. There's a lot more I could write about each point, and I'm sure some contradictions I need to clean up, but I have frankly spent too much time on this post. Respectfully, do some research (The Code by Ross Bernstein is a good book for this) into the topic that isn't exclusively from people who isolate fights as fights are PART of the game not an isolated incident within the game.

@mattdaraitis4253

4 ай бұрын

@@t.s.3628you dismantled him bro lol

3:26 the fight on the far right dude got him down on the ice punching him 😂

First hockey video in 4 months. Damn bro

The Hanson's tradition back in action.

BEST SEGMENT ON ESPN. now if only we can have it be weekly.....

Always love this bit, acknowledging this great game and the talent that plays it. Furthermore having guys like PK on the show. Would be great to see some more special guests or even some other former fighters for the fighting bits. And goal scorers for the amazing play bits.

I love that hockey remains "old school". Makes me enjoy Letterkenny and Shoresy so much more.

@eibbor171

4 ай бұрын

SET THE TONE !

I’ve been watching hockey since I was 5 years old, and am loving the attention Pat brings to the game. Greatest game in the world, thanks Pat

As a redwing fan never call Pittsburgh hockey town again

can't wait for playoffs!

I remember some pretty good fight games in Alaska in the ECHL days. Those guys would throw down for sure.

I love how they put them all in the penalty box like in 5 mins it’s not gonna happen again 😂(Detroit Native glad the spirt of 3-26-97 is still alive)

Being from Syracuse, it's so great to see Dwight get his flowers. Congrats big man, thanks for all the memories!

Haha gotta love Pat dancing around that people don’t fight 1 on 1 fists only anymore. Those were the days.

Ayyy PK got some old Daft Punk playing in the background lol

Keep this game clean 😂keep Fighting 🥊😁🇨🇦🇺🇸

I'm a Detroiter. There needs to be more fighting in hockey like back in the day.

Love it that was old time hockey - habs fan

PAT needs to bring Boomer from WFAN to talk hockey

@ChrisHarder20

4 ай бұрын

No one cares about hockey Boomer

from a french canadian hockey lifelong fan pat hockey knowledge is a fresh air for this wonderful sport rough/tough/fast/skill/ pat and the crew amazing work!!

“I was fighting in exhibition games” that’s actually pretty badass 🤣

@fedfreds832

4 ай бұрын

No that’s just hockey buddy learn it

This fight was incredible, but it would've been perfect if the goalies came out to center ice and started throwing haymakers

Hockey defies the whole” cooler heads prevail “

@jacoblamb3535

3 ай бұрын

No it’s epitome of cooler heads prevail. That’s literally the cliche play by play guy thing to say as the refs break it up and they voluntarily stop fighting. A good hockey game took place after this whereas you’d have to cancel the whole basketball game because the benches would have cleared.

It was like watching Christmas explode into a wonderful battle royal….with cheese!! 💥👊🤣💥😆🤣🤣😆😆🤣😆👌🤓🤘😎

"testicular fortitude" love how everyone knew they were going to fight, but they waited for the game to officially start to do it. just to make it clear, we are not fighting as men, we are fighting as players ;D

The fighting was badass, but also shoutouts to Dwight Freeney's spin moves on the line. Absolutely nasty

If NBA fought 10 players would be flopping on the floor

Darren Panger is so awesome, try to get him on the program!

"Letting players police the game" is just such a profound way of putting it and sends a strong message (imo) to all other major sports.

Pat, That happened between the Pistons and the Pacers back in the day, The Malice at The Palace.

If you didn’t have fighting than the rats would be rampant throughout the nhl injuring people without any real consequences

I’ve been saying it for years! How entertaining if all sports had this. Imagine how entertaining sports like tennis would be.

Well said PK because you had to fight bigger guys to protect your teammates and you certainly did awesome, i certainly wouldn't fight you

Best game on earth baby

It always amazes me what good skaters these guys are while fighting, I struggle staying on my feet just being on the ice.

Love how PK is listening to Daft Punk 😂

Pat making a live business decision there at the end. He wants to get into what's wrong with society but... maybe... not right now. haha

Pks laugh at the penalty list is the best

Finally got the angle of Keandre absolutely wiping the floor with Marino! What a brawl that was!

Hockey "Purists" absolutely understand the need for enforcers in the game.

Absolutely nailed it, and I am a Cdn. that played hockey from the 60's to the 80's. Old time hockey--if you want to take a cheap shot, you better expect to throw down. If you can't fight, you better have skills. Today's hockey, rats like the Bruin's captan, can take cheap shots without retribution.

"Testicular Fortitude" is a good one lmao. Subban is the man.

@codyswaggerty4745

3 ай бұрын

never heard that before?

Went to fight...there was almost a hockey game.

Line brawls are epic.

The game of REAL men!! 💪🏼

The real tragedy was 8 players being given an early mark.

Everything seems clean to me!

This should be the new start to every game.

Get me on the dek hahaha lets go!!!

Clearly the best sport 💯

Thats awesome

as a devils fan this was the greatest thing i saw all season.. glad to see everyones in the wrestlemania spirit