Great concept they finally found something to do with fluoride besides put it in our water and in our toothpaste

@dianapennepacker6854

6 ай бұрын

I do get what you mean. Yet flourides and flouridecarbons are used in a ton of stuff from aluminum production to refrigeration. It is just one of those invisible elements that is everywhere, but never really spoken about like say lithium or iron. Also the many different types of acids it can create! Like flourianticacid, which is the strongest super acid in the world, and honestly terrifying. Think Teflon also is made from floride and carbon atoms. Which is weird to me how floride is used to make acid, but also to make the containers the contain acid. Shame they didn't talk about the solid state lithium air battery, and what that could mean. Lithium air has the best theoretical density of any battery chemistry possible. It will be the future if we can figure it out.

Amazing video.. I love it- Thank you Future Lab 😇

Very educational content, thank you!

Absolutely Phenomenal & Fascinating!👍🙏🙂🌏

Amazing, so exciting 💥

Very interested in structural batteries and how they can be applied to eVTOLs and Jetsuits.

Great info, hope to see more videos on evolving battery technology. Look at GMG's aluminum-graphene battery if you haven't already, best stats I've seen yet

@chriswandatownley1

Жыл бұрын

It's all just pipe dreams until they get them really going!

Liked and Subbed. Keep it up.

Love the bikes

Very interesting..

You left out Sodium Sulphur battery from Australia. 4 times the capacity of lithium.

@nbgoodiscore1303

Жыл бұрын

Let me guess, does it envolve chinese researchers who will take that tech to their homeland to mass manufacture it by making another chinese company? Does it involve more made in china stuff? When are we gonna start investing in our own countries? russia is probably benefiting a lot from this!

@marymiller7712

Жыл бұрын

Yes! MIT has also announce the Aluminum sulfur battery with salt gel electrolyte. Clearly best

Regardless of how much mileage you get on each charge, when the car is idle and all systems are off, how much power is lost from leakage then?

yes good video but damn it NOW I WANT them NOW! :)

These are just expectations

But for how many years will it get 1200 Miles per charge.

What about Graphene? What's the update on that?

You heard about Geely Zeekir? It hit 1038 km last year. This year the range can quite easily surpass 1200 km. the technology is already there. Heard that the higher BYD range also hit four figure.

The best battery wins

80 years to bring fluoride batteries to market? Are you kidding me?

A motor that runs itself, Self Sustaining Pulse Motor, but there is a lot of work that needs to be done.

They had this flexible battery over 40 years ago my father talked about it the tech has been here its being withheld it would be life changing for society

@b3arwithm3

8 ай бұрын

Talking about it and making it at scale aren't the same.

@L33tSkE3t

7 ай бұрын

Being a concept on paper or even a working prototype are not the same thing as making it work at scale…

Batteries are not the only problem , charging stations really are , and they are expensive to install , unlike petrol stations where one installation serves thousands of cars , and many at once . Batteries are not the ideal solution seeing their weight , and lack of resistance to cold etc .

@rscott2247

Жыл бұрын

Sodium-ion supposedly adapt well to cold climates and may be the safest route to go ?

@b3arwithm3

8 ай бұрын

Not just that. Oil can be stored. Electricity must be produced when needed. If we all charge at once, the grid will fail.

I like it

(Tongue firmly placed in cheek)…The real problem with a 100 year battery is it will never see the light of day for mass production in electric cars. With frames and bodies possibly made of aluminum, carbon fiber, fiberglass, some type of space age polymer or other non degrading low oxidizing materials, there will be very little to wear out and replace. Where’s the planned obsolescence in that, lol? And don’t get me started on the cost. 😮 One constellation could be that if/when a car does finally wear out or get wrecked, you can keep the battery to use as back up storage for your house. The more cars you go through, the more storage you get for your house. At least you wouldn’t have to worry about disposing the battery in a landfill…. For a while anyway 😊. Stay Frosty, my friends.

Test your credibility index by imagining the narrator having a Deep South accent. . .

How is this going to revolutionize the construction of beehives? Or surf boards? Or catching lobsters? You said it would revolutionize everything.

What abt a sodium ion NMC532?

wonderful development from Lithium ion to more secured & safe carbon fiber Fluoride ion batteries #👍

Just like the DVD player replaced the VCR new technology will make EV's a reality

80 years? Please

Oh great. Now when someone gets into a fender bender, gets rammed by a grocery store shopping cart or gets hit by someone that doesn't know how to back out of a parking space without hitting the car next to them, they will not only have body damage but now have to worry about the battery getting damaged. Good job engineers. Another "sounds good on paper" idea. Can't wait to see the bill for that repair.

Someday

Super.oke.

@ronaldaustin9138

Жыл бұрын

Poor baby!

As of right now, I think the greatest potential is the aluminum-ion batteries of the type being developed by Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) of Australia with technology developed by the University of Queensland to uses metallic aluminum anode and three layer graphene flakes in the cathode. A thermal process developed by UofQ creates nanometer sized perforations densely scatter over the surface of the two face sheet of graphene. These pits increase the number of storage locations for the aluminum-chloride ion that is the transfer ion in this battery. In addition the diffusion distance is practically nil. The result is a battery that can charge and discharge at a demonstrated rate of 7 kW/kg even in hand-built prototype coin-cell sized cells. This is at least twice that of the highest power density lithium-ion-phosphate (LFP) batteries at about 3.2 kW/kg. At the same time, the small format prototypes of the aluminum batteries already have energy density of 160 Wh/kg, which is similar to commercially available LFP batteries. Further development of larger format and better optimized batteries will likely result in energy densities of the aluminum ion battery to values approaching the 300 Wh/kg of the most energy dense NMC type lithium ion batteries. Even better with a metallic anode and graphene cathode there is no damage or structural strain that reduces cycle life if the battery is cycled between 0% and 100%. This means that all of the charge is available for use instead of needing to keep charge states above 20% and lower than 90% like lithium NMC batteries need to be operated to avoid reducing the cycle life of the battery. In addition to the higher specific power, test cells were cycled for 3,000 cycles at 10C for 1000 cycles, 30C for 1000 cycles and 66C for 1,000 cycles without observable degradation in energy storage capacity. BTW, 66C corresponds to a full charge or discharge of the cell in 1/66 th of hour or 55 seconds. So if the power from the charger was available, a battery of this type could theoretically be charged for 0% to 100% in under a minute. The practical use of this ability is that if the charging power is available, then this type of aluminum-ion engine could be recharged in about the same 5 minutes it take to fill a gasoline tank. Thus, even if the range is somewhat shorter, requiring more frequent stops to recharge, those charging stops when totalled together should still be considerably shorter than the time required by the less frequent, but slower charging rates from more energy dense batteries like the NMC type of lithium ion.

The Future is brighter.... only thing, if were born today

The battery revolution: now on KZread and nowhere else.

I think they would be good for more range

Maxwell Chikumbotso’s electric car blows this completely out of the water! It gets its energy from electromagnetism in the ether! Facts, not concept car. Look him up!

Amazing, this video brought me up to date on lots of progress in batteries and their capabilities in many beneficial ways for the car owner and the planet. Thank God and Mother nature for their eternal help in our life on Earth. More Optimistic about the future with this video. Shows technology is providing benefits in lots of areas of human life.

@b3arwithm3

8 ай бұрын

I don't think you realize how much energy and natural resources are needed to make these batteries. We are merely trading one problem for another. In 10 years we will be dealing with the crisis of recycling batteries. In 20 years we will be dealing with minerals shortage.

Very nice information of Battery techonology progress, I thing Hydrogen Fuel cell technice is Good for future it will be cheap. We need to develop such kind of technology option for car industry Which should be affordable to all people.

@b3arwithm3

8 ай бұрын

Hydrogen is anything but affordable

Did you look into the Gelion Batteries which are Zinc Bromide based Their Gel electrolyte acts as fire retardant! I believe it is a British Company that bought the rights from an Australian University. They are probably waiting for the Patent to expire, then gobbling it up before mass production, speculation, as it has been around for quite a number of years now!

So where are they?

That’ll bugger up the American films when the car has to explode in a crash

9:55 think the sodium ion battery had a breakthrough for higher density

I just had an Epiphone.....the UFO s are basically Risk Shaped hollow power batteries that the inhabitant or drivers are within the Battery, so the battery is not only structural, but also the Fuselage, the Skin, the structure, and it is traveling electrically /gravitic /propolsive Atmospheric Surfing.

In the near future everything will be powered by electricity; a backup battery is always a good thing to have if your power source should fail; the best power source,IMO, will be an electromagnetic SEG Generator which keeps the power constant and could only fail if completely destoryed; otherwise it's the very best source to depend on.

The finest bullshit ever. Keep it coming. Its entertaining. 😀😀😀

Please increase the sensitivity of your microphone, volume rather low compared to other KZread channels. Thank you.

It’s a future car lol but how far forward is that going to be ,but a ev with 1200 miles will be something to look at

Regardless of battery type, the issue remains, the use of finite earth metals.

@b3arwithm3

8 ай бұрын

Yes just trading one problem for another.

Y'all need geo sync generators in space that broadcast power so planes can fly. You can get spin up generators that stay in orbit for about 5 years and just fall back to earth in time to upgrade them. The solar panels can keep it spin up at speed when it slows down

@PhxElecAuto

Жыл бұрын

There are plans to put solar arrays in space and beam the power down. In space panels get direct sun about 22 hours a day.

Mechanic: you have to change your tires😊 Owner: those looks good.. what does it has to do with why it wont run? Mechanic: those are your batteries..😅😅

620miles on a charge would be good. 700 would be perfect. that would be 10hrs straight at 70mph. :D

I believe they like their monopoly!

great so when the battery capacity inevitably dies you'll have to replace the whole car. How green!

3:15 Did he say "80" years.

@FromFutureLab

Жыл бұрын

8 years :)

@timower5850

Жыл бұрын

@@FromFutureLab I hear that now. He kinda went hard on the "t". Thanks.

Its not the range, its the charging that is holding it back. No one want to plug in at home and wait 2-7 days to charge their EV. Also not everyone can afford to get the fast charge installed at home, because some states like Commiefornia and other make it cost over $18,000 to get it installed. I installed solar at my house and a lot of the fees was because of the state and power companies. Then the power companies cut the credit received from the extra a generate. Then the government with the tax credit ONLY PAYS OUT THE FULL AMOUNT IF YOU MAKE ENOUGH. Since I dont I can get about 1/2 or close to that of the tax credit but it takes 5 years. So solar and EVs are only for the rich or middle class. The poor well walk or take public. So ya better batteries are only part of the solution. What needs to happen is cheaper and better. LiOn is not cheap or good for the environment to get. Lighter and safer are more important for vehicles. Range can be fixed and if they used a standard could have a station that you pull up to and swaps out the dead battery for a full one, charges the dead one for the next vehicle. But all the companies want to fight over things.

Until things start getting made out of lighter components & with a supreme emphasis on reducing drag & air resistance, we'll still be stuffing way, way too many batteries into each thing. The shapes of various vehicles of all types, and the materials used to make them, need to be rethought completely, like Aptera did with their weird little car.

I need these batteries for my electric scooter, but only 72v. 🤭

copper?

It should be used in busses and light trains.

An it only takes two weeks to recharge. So you need to buy two of them.

promises. promises. when?

Did I hear that right? 80 years for Fluoride Ion Batteries?

@erniebouey5325

Жыл бұрын

I originally thought that’s what he said too. But then I listened more closely and heard eight years, which sounds much more reasonable and likely.

@peteyfly1

Жыл бұрын

@@erniebouey5325 thanks Ernie- yeah, that makes sense 😉

Our imagination? What about supply? Is there an infinite amount?

personnally i think we should concentrate on sodium technology as it is plentifull and safer. not mentioned here is the nuclear waste batteries which can kill 2 birds with one stone. maybe a mixture of the two.

I ll believe it when I see it. otherwise, vaporware.

@nutzeeer

Жыл бұрын

Sorry i bought all the new battery tech unveiled week after week

@Mr11ESSE111

Жыл бұрын

@@nutzeeer you bought shit in dust package

@nikophilopoulos833

Жыл бұрын

True. Imagine the day EV cars ACTUALLY jump 1000 miles in range over night.

@Mr11ESSE111

Жыл бұрын

@@nikophilopoulos833 and recharge in 1-2minutes to 100% and longevity of batteries of at least million km!!but asshole elite will not do that until they don't milk peoples with garbage lithium which kids diggs in african and asian countries for 10-20$ monthly salary

@daviddrake7003

Жыл бұрын

@@nikophilopoulos833 Already there very soon with the Aptera.

Yep, we need new safe nuclear plants to supply the power.

They say that they have discovered age reversal for mice. They have created body part rejuvenation for mice. They have found a reversal for age related gray hair in mice. Guess what, 93% of what they do with that mouse doesn't work in human trials! Well, at least we can make a healthy, young mouse! Right Mickey!?

It's all so cool... Yet, I'll still just rather mostly ride my bike. I'm All the energy i need for healthy living and social responsibility of Fun... City and mountain Independence. Gridlock is not in my future. 😏

Did he say 80 years

Hmmmm since the cars whole body is a battery can.i safely take my car to the Car Wash or will I get Electrocuted???????

@keithbranch7718

Жыл бұрын

Am sure you good rain would be just as bad

Nikola Tesla could control his boats by radio control. He proved it to the greedy investor world he lived in. Why can we not do the same now with free energy? The world has the brains not to waste Tesla's intuitive gifts to our modern world. John Eric Hoare.

@dianapennepacker6854

6 ай бұрын

One? Nothing is free. Especially energy. Tesla did not create anything close to a free energy machine. Two? Tesla lived in a world without wireless communication. Wireless power if that is what you're implying would ruin all the frequencies, and be terrible for the world in general due to the sheer amount of energy required to send energy through the air. Tesla was a genius, but even he had stupid ideas. He wasn't God. People sometimes act like everything he said was true or would work. If it were close to being possible someone along with others would have made it happen on a smaller scale, and even that has not happened.

Cobalt, Nickel, Copper...are not renewable resources. Once the Earth is pillaged of it's essential minerals, will the Earth be even as habitable as the moon? Will their remain any unadulterated supplies of fresh non-toxic water?

Nuclear and cold fusion will be the ultimate solution- very small Torium microreactor can produce endless energy - this is the real thing.,

This video is already out-of-date. CATL has surpassed these technologies.

Yet another one??...

What the battery puts out must be put into it from another energy source ? Need a one stage energy source, like gasoline or Hydrogen the most abundant substance in the universe.

Well if you have to add nickel and cobalt then it won’t $30/kWh🤦🏻

Fuel cells has better chance

Keep up the good work battery scientists! The naysayers will be consigned to history!

Still waiting

Till it gets cold lose miles

fluoride ion batteries are awesome but only if they work, but aluminum ion batteries and hydrogen fuel cells are a better alternative to lithium or any other battery imo. powering the grid with your ev is a dumb idea and does not make you money because you still need to charge your ev, and is not going to solve any renewable grid energy needs, why would you need to in the first place?? we should be converting every power plant to geothermal power. because it doesnt need replenishing like all the other "renewable" unnecessary bs energy sources such as solar wind and nuclear etc.

I'll buy ev when they charge themselves while driving!

There is no such thing as Next Gen batteries that will revolutionize everything. Just click bate.

@mikepeterson6527

5 ай бұрын

Super capacitor batteries

Serious safety issues for Li-ion is a gross overstatement given that EV fires are much less frequent per vehicle than petrol fires. Any increase in safety is great, but given we already live with petrol fires, it's hardly the most important issue facing Li-ion. That would be cost, charging speed, and energy density, in that order.

@kelvin869

Жыл бұрын

Maybe that has something to do with the fact around 99% of all vehicles are Fossil Fuelled. If you look at the stats on a per capita basis (Total # of EVs/ km travelled) vs (Total # Fossil Fuelled / km travelled), you will find a vastly different outcome to what you suggest so blindly.

Battery technology investment into the trillion dollar range & EV being developed by most automakers, Na-ion & F-ion batteries are going to replace Li-ion batteries in battery electric vehicles of the near future. ICE generators will be used as range extenders for hundreds of years, liquid piston & similar rotary, direct injection, turbo-charged, smaller, lower mass, bio-gasoline, methanol, ethanol, propane, diesel, Jet-A, kerosene, butane, there will be lots of biofuels like DME and biogas & LNG, green H2, nuclear hydrogen, renewable bio-fuels made from crop waste / upon dying I want to be made into biogas and biodegraded by mushrooms so all the elements in my body become part of nature in an eco-safe way :)

I hope I never hear the words... safe and effective... again... it's just alarm bells for bs

shame they dont make it look like a car.......

Who will be able to afford it . 0%

Go Tesla woohoo 😎😼🌎🌍🎉👽🙌 Musk-eteer

The real question is how are we going to get this tech to sell since a lot of people hate EVs and want to stay with gas. Also when are we going to come up with a way recycle normal AAs and others to make sure they are being remade into something else and help clean up our landfills laws need to be passed to make sure recycling is happening cause if we don’t get s handle on what we throw away resources might lead to crazy battles. Keep going I really like the car vids can you do one on what the interior of cars will be like in the future.

@MarianAlexandru0896

Жыл бұрын

I don't hate EV, but you can't re-use current batteries pack that are in EV. Tesla with lithium-ion battery does more harm to the enviroment than gas cars. I would love an EV with a new type of battery like sodium-ion ..

@b3arwithm3

8 ай бұрын

Gasoline cars deplete our resources once in operation. EV cars deplete our resources in production phase. Both have their own sustainability problems

It would take Nickolas Tesla only a few years to provide free energy to all, if he was not stopped

@b3arwithm3

8 ай бұрын

There is no free lunch kiddo. I even have to pay for something as basic and commonly available such as water.

If thy make the schassy or the carpannels the battery than you can throw away your car afther 8 or 10 years if you get luky

I do like the electric cars because it will help to prevent conflicts over crude oil prices and air pollution.

@b3arwithm3

8 ай бұрын

And introduce conflict over minerals and recycling. Both are already there by the way

Here we are a year later and not one of these battery technologies have seen the light of day... Lu-Ion still rules

Wake me up when an EV reaches 1000 mile range (round trip) and won't explode in case of accident!

@user-zb2st6zi6j

Жыл бұрын

Batteries are safer than gasoline (which is highly explosive) and 600 miles is more than enough range (who is going to drive more than 8 hours without stopping?)

At least no "green" BS word..

New amazing energy source discovered with 30x the energy of batteries. It's called oil.