5 Mistakes Foreigners Make Living in Thailand
5 Common Mistakes Foreigners Make Living in Thailand
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I snapped a picture of a Palace Guard, in white uniform. Guard in black uniform yelled "no photo!" jumped in front of Palace Guard. I always try to learn some native language when traveling. I did the Wai, bowed and said, "Kor Tord Krap." His reaction changed instantly. He smiled and bowed back saying, "it's ok." I just can't understand how people can travel to another country and not make any effort to communicate in their language.
@shawnkelly695
5 ай бұрын
Try. If cant try then dont move there. I have a horrible memory so opt for english countries to visit.
@newmankidman5763
4 ай бұрын
Does "Kor Tord Krap" mean "cut the crap"? :)
@regnorse
4 ай бұрын
lol@@shawnkelly695
@alexlau3953
3 ай бұрын
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@harveythompson1756
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
Learning (at least some) Thai is excellent advice. If your Thai is limited - smiles, patience, and respect are pretty much universally understood. Be a good guest, and you'll likely find yourself among good hosts. That's my experience, anyway.
@KM-vc7iy
9 ай бұрын
But what if the Thai people are mean to someone for no reason other than being racist and prejudice.
@robertnew4568
9 ай бұрын
When someone speaks Thai, the country appears to be completely different! Best advice ever! Too bad Forrest is speech impaired, and spends a lot of his time conversing with fellow farangs in a bar. Contrary to popular opinion, beer does not make you smarter! Forrest doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. Is it true “ignorance is bliss?”
1. #LanguageBarrier: Many foreigners struggle with the Thai language, leading to miscommunication and misunderstandings. 2. #CulturalEtiquette: Lack of knowledge about Thai customs and traditions can lead to unintentional disrespect or offense. 3. #VisaIssues: Foreigners often overlook or misunderstand visa regulations, resulting in legal complications or overstaying their welcome. 4. #NegotiationSkills: In markets or while dealing with locals, foreigners may struggle with bargaining or end up paying more than necessary. 5. #FoodSafety: Not being familiar with local food hygiene practices can lead to foodborne illnesses or digestive issues.
@darwinjina
8 ай бұрын
and it make it more complicated, you have a mix of Chinese, Burma and other behaviors too. Also, feng shui rules seem unreal at times.
@ravenlorans
8 ай бұрын
Compared to the Philipps... 1. Most Speak and understand english, Unless they don't want to deal with you. 2.They Have None! Place is more of a Garbage Dump than what you think it is.. 3. Maybe about the same but will try to Scam you while doing so to get it "Done Faster"... 4. None Unless you know the Language and they know you from being a regular and seeing you all the time. 5. There is NONE! Don't even bother to wash their hands after Cleaning themselves after a shit with them or anything else nasty they use them for... And/Or depends on how well you know the cook... They actually ReCook Food from the Garbage that/where there is Literal Shit next to it or even On it... Or Piss poring onto it from the Cup they Pissed in..
@pete531
6 ай бұрын
thank you
@isabellaschopper8988
3 ай бұрын
Je wrong land Ami go home jou newer can learn it maybe Tagalog bahasa Indonesia but not the fuck chines Thai japanis Korean canot
@isabellaschopper8988
3 ай бұрын
Paying more hahaaaaaaa me not many thime happens but I call the police and the stop it haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You’re saying what all other expats are saying to foreigners who want to come live in Thailand 🇹🇭. Be on your best behavior! A respectful disposition of calm behavior filled patients will be a lovingly reflected respect back towards you in any given situation.
@isabellaschopper8988
3 ай бұрын
Not jou be rude jou stand on the bathmoney jou burn the money jou take drug there.my adwise just doit know
I don't think it's really about saving face. It's more like, you're out there yelling in public, and suddenly, everyone's in this weird, awkward vibe. We're all about that chill, laid-back "sabai sabai" vibe, and when someone starts messing with that and brings in the negativity, it's like, "What do we do now?" It just makes everyone uncomfortable.
@BobGoodi
9 ай бұрын
🙏🏾
@hagakuru
9 ай бұрын
It's 100% about face. Thai people will even tell you this from their own mouth. The concept is taught very early on in schools, from parents, and peers. It can be a very dangerous aspect of living in Thailand if one is bent on verbally confronting people.
@willsmith39
9 ай бұрын
@@hagakuruHaving called SE Asia home for 31 years, mostly here in HK but also with stints in Japan and Malaysia - you're completely correct.
@Ned88Man
4 ай бұрын
If you are hell bent on verbally confronting people, you will have issues anywhere you go. I asked my wife to explain the concept of face to me, she really didn't know what to say...She is Thai by the way. I really want to know on what planet or what country is being confrontational ok?@@hagakuru
@user-ht1rm8hd5d
2 ай бұрын
No excuse for yelling at anyone! Thailand is about the chill with no disrespect.
I am floored when you keep saying in your videos I'm just a dumb Chinese. I think you are very smart delivering valuable information. I don't know if you care but along with making money on KZread, you are helping people that are ignorant in the ways of Thailand. You also introduce some very valuable tips on the loss of face by many Asians. I for one learned the hard way that losing face was a real negative when I met my first Japanese Martial Artist. Being a foreigner I had no idea what it was and so my instructor gave be a very short lesson. By the way the action was intentional, but he did spell it out to me. Thank you Mr. Lee for sharing. The lessons are very valuable.
@regnorse
4 ай бұрын
I hope it's humor when he says those things
I’ve lived here in Thailand for over 6 years now. Losing/saving face is real, important, and pervasive. It is a lot more and a lot more complicated than just raising your voice or being disagreeable. The huge benefit is that Thai society, particularly in public, is very non-confrontational. People are just nice here. It also has it’s practical downsides but, in general, if you are nice to people they will be nice and friendly with you.
@MyBelch
9 ай бұрын
It's also the main reason many problems never get fixed.
@kendrewreviews
9 ай бұрын
I disagree. I've lived here 10 years and I speak Thai. Thais aren't nice - they are trained. Thailand has always been an unfree authoritarian country. Their only freedom is a smile. Americans would NEVER put up with the sh** that Thais have to endure. In the USA, we complain about Politically Correctness and not being able to use pronouns because it's taboo to offend marginalized people. Well, Thailand is worse! lol However, Westerners don't speak the language, they don't know the culture, and they don't know the forced hospitality they get isn't voluntary. This is the reason why Thai women want to marry white guys and get the hell out of the country ASAP. As Westerners, we don't experience this until we stay in the country for a long time. What I love about the USA is that at least we have hope because we have democracy. In Thailand, their Military Dictatorship just stole the election away from Thai voters... again. The only good thing about Thailand is that it's cheap and that it has a BTS. If the USA was cheap, none of us would be here. I find it interesting that Americans complain about "big government" and "biden taking away my rights!" but then they move to a military dictatorship where rent is only $100/mo.
@Bo-tz4nw
9 ай бұрын
Okey, but way to simple to put it this way. Also very dangerous trying to generalize "People are just nice here". Cultural thing way more compliceted, I guess sometimes it will take even way more than six years here for a lot of foreigneirs.....
@darwinjina
8 ай бұрын
I think it is even at the low level/conversation level too. A few years ago, I looked at a property contract and it had all the monetary details with 'bath' instead of 'baht'. It looked like a typo and said so. Instead of anyone correcting me, it was simply not discussed, and the final contract had 'bath'. I thought it was odd. Only later, did I discover that 'bath' is the correct usage. I would rather been corrected at the meeting, but I guess that is not the Thai way.
@imdtap1448
8 ай бұрын
@@MyBelch Absolutely agree 110%. Sweep it under the rug and then complain about it after...The typical Thai way.
I married a Thai in 2002 and I thought was to stay in Thailand but use my Incline condo as a Vacation home, well it reversed when my wife got to Incline, she stayed for 17 years until I was retired and we moved back, yep march 2020 - the next week the shut the airport during COVID. Now my wife is back in the States( 6 months), trying to work and travel , I stayed here other than ( 2 weeks) I returned for family , and personal business. Back in our house in Udon Thani and still shaking my head about the USA coming aparts at the seems. really sad. Thai - found a Translator has made it better, at 71 its tough remembering languages, have worked all over the world and another language is tough, now translator they like .
Great advice Forrest, appreciate you taking the time to walk us through those.
I totally agree with No.2 I was yelled by foreigner boss. It’s a big impact on me I resigned from that organization. It’s in Thai DNA. If you make it happened, you can get a result that make you stun.
Would love to meet those Singaporean and Malaysian Uncles who knows people and get things done faster. Networking is so important in a new place and new environment. Patience is required in Asian countries in order to get things done.
@tanhakkoon
9 ай бұрын
In Thailand is important to learn Thai Language, you will find great difference between foreigner can and cannot speak simple Thai. In Thailand we do not not try to do thing fast, at outskirt, we learn to only do "one" thing a day and stay & rest well.
@arsenal_84
2 ай бұрын
Can share the contacts of the Singaporean uncles ?
Wow, this is both fascinating, and a learning lesson for me. I also like how articulate and direct your deliverance is, and I give that a solid 5 star. Thanks!
I lived in Thailand from 2006-2013. The biggest regret I have was not taking time to learn how to make Thai food. I could have learned these skills and taken them wherever and for a lifetime. You cannot easily get authentic Thai food outside of Thailand. There's so many things I would like to know how to make. For example, they always have those yummy spice packs at every fruit stall. Nobody seems to know how to make it. Get me a recipe please!
@VittoShulman
8 ай бұрын
It is a taste inhansing salt also known as sodium or natrium salt in some countries they buy at pharmacy and mix with red chili powder and/or minced shrimp paste. You can make your own mix regular salt or preservative called sodium salt with red chili powder and just a bit anchovies - mix it all together and there you have it. PS: they wouldnt tell the rec anybody because some people freak out when find out its pure sodium.
@isabellaschopper8988
3 ай бұрын
Wat thaifood weeeeeeeee mutch Beter austrian fooood to many chillis
Nice and informative video Forrest Lee. This was my first visit to your channel and I appreciate your no nonsense approach. Keep doing what your doing and I will hit that like button and subscribe. Looking forward to your shared wisdom. Thanks
Thank you Mr. Lee, this is outstanding advice! Love it!
these are great tips, i will be spending a few months in thailand and your channel has been very insightful and has great information! Thank you for the effort you put in these videos
I think those are tortoises. They have no flaps to swim. But I agree with maintaining your professionalism oversea.
I enjoy how you articulate the practical benefits of doing things a certain way in Thailand. Thanks for the guidance.
@stevecarr1992
8 ай бұрын
Right... If you don't know about playing the stuffed envelope game, probably won't get too far over there.
A good country allows you to buy property business in your name 100%.
I like the video quality as of late. Nice location for filming too. Good advice, thanks
Keep the content coming Forrest, very helpful.
Very well done. Your advise is intelligent, and your manner of speaking is most appealing.
I liked and subbed based on this video. Thank you for the advice as I plan to visit and then move over next year. You remind a great deal of my best friend since highschool, he too held himself to very high standards that he rose to and exceeded. I would say to you to also give yourself at least a little credit when you succeed and excel. Thanks for your time and effort in making these videos and in helping others. 😊
man. thank u. u open up my mind n learn a lot. thinking of moving to bangkok in couple years from new york.
Great advice thanks for sharing. I have really been considering a longer time in Thailand in the near future and maybe retire there eventually. Easy sub. Hope to learn more from you!
Thanks for the advice. It all makes sense from what little I know about Thailand
Nice efforts to pin the real problems and how to save. Great job, you have very nice presentation capability.
Good advice. Thanks for sharing the wisdom.
Another great video my friend, thank you!!!
Thanks you for your knowledge! Much appreciated.
Great info Forrest , much appreciated !
Good video. You have become one of my favorite vloggers.
Great topic sir !!!! I sub'd cause I like the way you talk and lay it on the line I understand that language 👍👍🤟🤟👍👍🤟🤟
Your comments although they are directed at Thailand are all very positive. Good advice for people living anywhere. Respecting a culture as a means of survival has merit. Intriguing.
I'm planning to move to Thailand I have started learning 18mths before, only using youtube online classes, but its a start. I hope 18mths of this I will not be completely useless when the move happens. I lived in China for 2yr and business there much longer I understand alot already but always much to learn.
Thanks for your insight. It seems like good advice.
Great advice!! Thank you
Thank you for the insight its very helpful and appreciated. Can you please do a video on a learning visa particularly on learning Thai and what schools and or university have classes and very important is the cost and schedule how many days a week. This and anything else im not aware of would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Great video. Thanks for the info
These are very good, Forrest. Thanks!
Thanks Forrest. Your vlogs are informative and appreciated.
I wouldn't set my business under my wife's name, let alone a girlfriend... LOL
Solid advice. I think that the concept for face is generally lost on westerners if they haven't lived in or traveled enough in Asia .
@Uiscebeatha565
9 ай бұрын
Sometimes it's a dumb concept in my opinion, in China for example the people would rather lie to you about something than tell you they don't know to "save face", how ridiculous huh.
I visited Thailand, very nice friendly & warm people. Thank u for your advise.
Excellent video. Many thanks for posting.
Thanks! Excellent advice. Most of the your advice can applied to most Asian countries.
We love you too my friend. i have only been in Thailand once for World Bank business. i see the attractions all around but you need to set goals for yourself, then you make less mistakes.
great show, subscribed on this , thanks
Thailand seems similar to Japan; the idea of saving face is huge in the culture. Great videos by the way.
thank forrest LEE very good idea in this video alert people want to move to Thailand I love it from canada
Nice informative videos.The same happens here mostly to German guys.
I think you speak a lot of sense man, some very sound advice there. Can't say I totally agree that losing face would have such a huge impact in such a highly populated place, this one depends I suppose if it was in front of colleagues etc, it's situational.
@regnorse
4 ай бұрын
if i corrected you it might lead you to losing face so i wont )
Thanks for excellent advice
Good video Mr. Lee. Thanks. BTW do you see Thailand and Cambodia being very similar in the tips you mentioned? Or are the two countries very different?
@joshhansan-bj6ju
6 ай бұрын
Cambodia was colonized by a Thailand for 500 years and was influenced by the Thai’s art and culture before the Thai given Cambodia over to France.That’s the reason why you think they are similar. Today Cambodia tried to imitate Thai’s culture and claim to be the owner of the culture with out evidence and reason which caused a lot of conflicts between the two countries.
@erichhonecker8548
6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. WHat culture would you say Cambodia has or had, if not for the Thai influence? Would it be similar to India? Laos? Vietnam? etc?@@joshhansan-bj6ju
Great tips Forrest!
Dude you content is my favorite. Please make more
I love the idea that you recommend expat to work something they are good at. Thank you Forrest.
Agree on everything but the language, I don’t know. I used to think learning Thai was essential, and made a real effort when I first moved here. I found that mostly everyone I talk to has uni degree / studied abroad and wants to speak English, and could not practice my Thai. In the end I can speak the basics, from talking to vendors/taxi drivers etc which is enough to get by, and my wife handles the rest.
@jaxonmattox9267
9 ай бұрын
คุณควรเรียนภาษาไทยถ้าคุณอาศัยอยู่ในประเทศไทย Just because you dont need to learn it to enjoy life in Thailand, doesn't mean you're not missing out. Yes many people want to practice but those are the people you notice, the Thai people hanging out with other Thai people speaking Thai are all around you but because you never are a part of that because you don't speak Thai and it would be very hard to include you if not everyone can communicate with you. The strongest argument against learning Thai is wether or not it is the best use of 500+ hours of studying (that's just for low level conversations, you can spend a lot more time) instead of those 500 hours being work or anything else
@marleymarl0
9 ай бұрын
@@jaxonmattox9267 yes it would be nice in those situations. I kind of gave up too when I realized I would probably move back home eventually, immigration is to annoying even being married / running business / paying taxes.
@chrischen3109
7 ай бұрын
You dealing too much with HiSo thai people … plenty of opportunities to speak Thai - just chat with Motorcycle drivers and taxi drivers or out in the provinces … you be forced speak Thai
Great advices. Thank you, I like your language by the way.
Your future self will thank you WOW that applies to so many life situations very well said sir
Money transcends boundaries.
Good video Forrest! ..btw, how's the pickleball scene in BKK ? 😁
The best way to know about a country is asking a farang from your home country who has been in country to brief you about the country what to do from personal relationship to business.
First time to meet you, great advice, sub/like/shared. thank you.
Right on target on every point that you made my man .
Great information ❤
Good advise. I hope to gain some wisdom, at least enough to get by on, and perhaps, even enough to flourish.
Excellent video..thanks..!
Mr. Lee, thank you for sharing your wisdom! Let those who have ears, listen! I always appreciate your truthfulness. Learning a lot from your videos. Thank YOU!
I love how at the end you’re like “but what the hell do I know” Very humble sir ❤
There is really only one mistake that can be made. That mistake is being in Thailand for longer than one month.
Great visa info, thank you
I’ve been in Bangkok in 23 years excluding several years’ stay before 2000. Without much trouble I am able to be living comfortably and work as well. I totally agree with your basic principles you mention to expats here and those who would like to move here for various reasons. Thanks again.
You're cool! that's helpful! Thank you😊
Great list. I normally do not watch the do and don't KZread lists. Because they're usually horrible. I knew with you being a fellow US Army Veteran that you would do this right. And you did. Well done brother.
Great advice 🙏
Great advice mate thanks.
Very nice of you to share this
new sub here, i like the straight forward content thanks (y)
Forrest, I'm surprised you're not 10kg heavier eating that type of lunch 7:53 - that's enough for like 4 people!
I worked around U.S. immigration services Pre and Post 9/11. The number of people who were shocked and left flat-footed by being refused entry for a simple overstay 10-20 years earlier skyrocketed. One lady need an emergency visa application, because she had an apartment and dog she couldn’t come home to in Florida. She actually thought just being Canadian was good enough to take up residence in the U.S. Prior to 1997ish, INS used a book to check on your overstays, in 1999 it became fully computerized, and by 2003 they were cross referencing data, finding shoplifting citations, DUI’s and simple assault convictions. Not to mention a slew of travel records that could be used to easily identify habitual overstays. Countries who have entry and exit checks, have only to flip the switch. As soon as the benefit of overstay fees means less than attracting lawful entrants, those who’ve overstayed will have a rude awakening.
@gem3132
9 ай бұрын
Michael: i DO work "around US Immigration"; can't be more specific... Nowadays the whole system is a joke, the system has collapsed and people take advantage. You probably know what I mean. Even "our" people are bent on "helping" them. EXTREMELY demoralizing.
@jameskelly9243
9 ай бұрын
She should have been Mexican / south of the boarder she would have gotten in USA plus couple hundred dollars and a phone
@pissupehelwan
9 ай бұрын
@@gem3132 That's what happens when the legal process of coming to the US is way more difficult than walking across the border. Not supporting that but the entire system is completely broken.
@VittoShulman
8 ай бұрын
And they now share records with other countries. For example if you have been violating visa laws in Britain and apply for visa to US - they will see your UK recs and might ask what happened there.
Very wise advice. Thank you.
Well said and I agree!
Ingratiate often carries a negative connotation, in that someone is only being nice in hopes of gaining something in return. I guess "assimilate" is a better word. The advice given is sill priceless.
@regnorse
4 ай бұрын
not really...its way too early to expect to assimilate from the outset. first step is to earn ''acceptance'' through ingratiating
Plain, healthy, lucid, common sense ! Thank you.
That lunch place was really neat, I will check that place out.
Good solid advice, than Forrest !
Just found your channel. Love the style and vibe. How the heck did I not see it sooner? Anyway, good content and I look forward to more. Good luck on everything you're doing!✊*Subscribed*
Great video. Subbed.
Good advice , tanks
Great video thanks
Exceptional video from a man of wisdom.
Thanks for the valuable info. considering moving there... so will be going to visit this coming March 2024.....and make a decision.
As a Thai, I think you have given a sensible and truthful advice 👍 wish you all the best 😊
Another relevant and informative video. I’ve been to Thailand four times and now am planning to live there. Everything you said was spot on correct.
@robertnew4568
9 ай бұрын
Except the “Thonburi River! Duh!
Even I just do visits . I learn some small Thai or anywhere cus I was raised like that.🙏🏼👊🏼💯
Helpful. Liked and subbed.
Good advice 👍
Valuable information for anyone planning to retire there. Some are hard headed though.
You are right on the money with your observations. My only regret in Thailand is not learning the language….I tried once for 30 days but I found the 5 tones too difficult. Unfortunately as you get older it becomes more difficult to learn and some of us don’t know how many more years we will live here. In my case I live here 7 months a year with the other 5 in Florida.
@morrist8727
8 ай бұрын
The tones come naturally, the more you listen to the language being spoken; you will subconsciously begin to use the correct tones in sentences. If you try to literally memorize every tonal word from scratch, you will fail.
@rongreer3648
6 ай бұрын
First off about Thai: Thais appreciate ANY effort. We're not talking about snooty Parisians here. You probably should have stuck it out another two weeks. That’s about how long it took me to get comfortable with all of the tones. And, frankly, I don’t pay much attention to two of them, so now you’re down to three. Think of the bright side: no verb conjugations and a decent phonetic alphabet which beats English hands down. I mean were not talking about trying to learn to read Chinese or Japanese, right?
@morrist8727
6 ай бұрын
@@rongreer3648 People are just lazy and flat out don't have the passion to learn. I also found that when students are trying to learn the tones, teachers are throwing these convoluted thai tone rules at them, there's no way that a student without passion will learn those rules.
@isabellaschopper8988
3 ай бұрын
Who want learn this stuped language unbelivebel stuped idee to go there stay there pay 20000 dollar vor visa Ami stuped idee the are not wort it tat false Asian smiles the wort to f to use to forget