Best explanatory video on the NET, ty!

Can we get a gigabyte board? that would be fantastic

ARE you up to speed on the voltage problems that are burning up boards and chips? especially asus boards. there is a beta bios came out a few DAYS AGO hoping to adress this.

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

I'm a little up to speed. I posted a reply on another comment a couple of days ago (see below): ------------------------------------ I've been trying to follow the news about the burning up a little bit (including some of the in-depth pieces). Generally, I'm a bit annoyed with the coverage because there's still lots of speculation and jumping to conclusions. Also, I'm not a fan of calling people "lazy" without evidence. It implies intentional malfeasance. My opinion is that 100mV difference will never be the difference between "guaranteed burnout" and "absolute safety", unless there is a specific hardware design flaw causing that. Going by the physical damage, it's clear some thermal protection is failing. That could related to a dysfunctional physical sensor in the CPU or some edge-case SMU firmware bug, or something different. But what's it's not is +100mV :). I look at the BIOS voltage limitations as a way to show customers something's actively being done about it and to shift the conversation to "it's those darned overclockers again". You know ... it's not "in spec" but "out of spec" behavior. I'm not confident we'll ever know the true root cause of this issue. And, honestly, I don't really care that much about the root cause being known by the public. I'm just a bit worried that this will further detract AMD from actively investing resources to enable great overclocking experiences.

Very good! Voltage vsoc in automatic defined by EXPO not exaggeratedly high? Considering you don't have the latest bios that limits vsoc?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

The EXPO profile does not contain any information about VDDCR_SOC. It only includes DRAM VDD, VDDQ, and VPP voltage specification. The increased SOC voltage is done by motherboard auto-rules to support higher EXPO frequency out of the box. While it sounds like "motherboard auto-rule" means the motherboard vendors decided the voltage on their own, the rules were made after discussions with AMD. If I understand it right, the guidance was IMC=VDD=VDDQ was the guideline (and IMC voltage is 1:1 with VDDCR_SOC voltage rail).

@evilhf915

Жыл бұрын

@@SkatterBencher Thanks for clarifying

Good video going though the important parts! At what point is the 7800x3d thermally limited? (peak ccd temp >85 or so) Does that happen already on two threads? Four? Just one?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

Great question! I don't think I actually tracked that data, but it's something I should do for future guides.

@chrisschneider-hl6ip

12 күн бұрын

90c

You should do this overclocks with MSI too :) I don't see the Asynchronous mode and BCLOCK 2 Frequency :(

@jasonhenninger8220

6 ай бұрын

He doesn't note in this video this REQUIRES an eCLK on the MB. The only MSI board is the x670 ACE.

I have this same Crosshair hero, 7800x3d and building an ek loop as we speak. I’m gonna try your settings and hope for the best!

@Ambitiorix

4 ай бұрын

And? How did it go? :)

@IchNichtsWissen

4 ай бұрын

Pc is broke

Great info! I read on a forum some guy recommended bumping LLC for the cpu voltage to the max for 7800x3d to get a bigger stable curve optimizer negative, he got -39. What do you think about this? He claimed it should maximize the already so locked down voltage. Would this be a good idea? Harmful?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

Logically it makes sense. The main function of VRM LLC is to have a controlled the Vdroop which is the voltage drop when going from idle to full load. A low LLC will yield a larger Vdroop (and larger undershoot), which means that the effective voltage will be lower. A higher LLC will means a smaller Vdroop and thus higher effective voltage. If you use Curve Optimizer, you try to undervolt the CPU. The main challenge is to find an undervolt that large enough so the PB algorithm boosts as high as possible without inducing instability due to too low voltage. A steep LLC will yield higher minimum voltages, so possibly higher Curve Optimizer values. The main drawback of a high LLC is that the Vdroop may be too small, so you have high minimum voltages under high loads and possibly large voltage overshoots. It is generally not recommended to have too high LLC, however I don't know how "dangerous" it is. It's actually a topic I've been thinking about doing some research on. Hope this helps.

@ericmartinez5633

4 күн бұрын

LLC at level 7 for my 6400mhz 2133fclk overclocked memory. Working on pbo percore now dialing in each core for maximum performance

how to know what optimizer magnitude is 5 or 10? where are u find that values?

Great video can u repeat it with x670e aorus master motherboard it doesnt feels same bios arrengment

Hello, I have a 7800x3D processor, I have not made any performance changes with it, it works as it comes out of the box, it runs at 4675 and 4775 mhz in games, is this normal?

wasnt this video up over a week ago? what bios are you running?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

I always have two versions of the guides: the long one with a lot of details and multiple OC strategies and a short one covering just one strategy. It's the same setup and BIOS (1002). This is the short one :)

And all you need is a Motherboard that cost more than the CPU itself......

@rileyhance318

6 ай бұрын

not really the x3d chips draw like max 60w so cheaper boards with lower end power delivery will be just fine. i would argue intels competing i7s and i9s require high end boards with how much power they use

@Davinmk

6 ай бұрын

@@rileyhance318i think he is talking about the clock gen which then technically is true since the cheapest one is the b650e aorus master for 350-400$

@wazaagbreak-head6039

2 ай бұрын

MSI b650 ATX not matx version has an eclk​@@Davinmk

@Davinmk

2 ай бұрын

@@wazaagbreak-head6039 which model specifically?

@lemonhaze715

Ай бұрын

​@@rileyhance318didnt this 1 take like 90 watts in the vid, still nothing compared to intel.

Hey man, i stumbled across your video and i have a question. I recently bought and build my new system with a Ryzen 7 7800x3d, now im running into a problem with my idle temps, under full load my Peak core voltage is around 1.08-1.10, and while idling it sits around 1.12-1.1.13. do you have any idea how i can fix this? I've tried nearly everything from updating bios, reseating cpu cooling, re applying thermal paste, power plans, updating bios etc but i can't seem to get my idle voltage down. Right now the cpu idles around 53-55 celcius with a 360mm corsair h150i, in game it won't even go above 65 celcius and under full cinebench load this changes to around 77-80 celcius. which in my eyes, does seem like allright temperatures... I've got no clue why my idle voltage is higher than my full load voltage... if you have a clue... let me know

@SkatterBencher

8 ай бұрын

Having full load voltage lower than idle voltage is very normal behavior in modern systems and is nothing to worry about. Is there any reason why you want to have the idle voltage identical to the load voltage?

Would be interesting to see HWWin data on CPU voltages and as well max temps while boosting frequency (eCLK) and voltage with curve positive optimization

Hi everyone, I have a 7800x3d processor. Under the premise of keeping CPU's stability, I aim to reduce the CPU temperature without sacrificing too much performance. What settings should I adjust in the BIOS to achieve this? Thank you.

@felipesiedschlagyopan4185

10 ай бұрын

PBO Curve in -30 is the only thing I learned so far.

@AnthonyFIT

5 ай бұрын

Yo tengo PBO -27 y el voltaje en 71000 mV en un 7800x 3D y asi me funciona estable y pasa las pruebas de OCCT de 1 hora y cinebench 23 con buenas puntaciones, pase de 80°c al 100% de uso a unos muy buenos 71°c. Tengo una refrigeracion liquida de dos ventiladores de 120mm. Espero haberte ayudado!

Can you please make a overclock video with a asus b650 tuf and 7700x.

Any chance you could do one using the 7950X3D on this same board? :D

@SkatterBencher

6 ай бұрын

I used the 7950X3D with an ROG board (Extreme) in another guide. The overclocking process will be very similar, so I think you can refer to that kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3arsNZvgKeTYJM.html

With CPUes like 7800X3D i want to see some test in gaming. As there will be the real gains.

Dude, what about the ROG STRIX X670E-I ? We don't have ECLK on this motherboard. please make a guide for overclocking all the other motherboards that don't support asynchronous mode!

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

In my longer SkatterBencher video I cover a variety of OC strategies, including ones that don't rely on ECLK: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2SJpLeqYdCyd7w.html

@ZeroEight

Жыл бұрын

@@SkatterBencher Thank you, I've watched the other video when you originally posted it. What I didn't see is base CLK overclocking like you did for the 5800x3d. I am curious to see and what potential that has with curve optimizer and negative offset 35 on the 7800x3d. I am currently doing -34 CO with 6200mhz ram. It only pulls 75w TDP under max load, so I know there is some headroom to push it further.

@dudao4163

Жыл бұрын

​@@ZeroEight bclk 105 can reach 5.0 multi/5.3 single stable with custom loop. Mine did 103 4.9/5.2 with CO -25 on 240mm AIO & 120$ asrock motherboard - cool ! :))

@ZeroEight

Жыл бұрын

@@dudao4163 what ram speed?

@dudao4163

Жыл бұрын

@@ZeroEight cl 30 6000 Hynix die tuned by buildzoid profile.

Why mostly lf your co are just 5 or auto?, can you explain how to find the correct co? Thanks.

Hi thanks for tuto , how you know if you had to set positive or negative set? Best core on positive ? Thanks

@SkatterBencher

9 ай бұрын

You have to manually test the core stability. Lower is better (since the core will boost higher). I provide more information in my longer SkatterBencher video kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2SJpLeqYdCyd7w.html

my parts come in next week. how different are my options with a gigabyte x670 aorus elite board? I know my cpu will act different on the board but im wondering about the expo1 option

@chrisschneider-hl6ip

12 күн бұрын

not very, but enough u need a guide like this for it. dont go past 6000mhz for now. (ram).

Very interesting... I'm mainly just left with a bunch of questions. First of all, the bios version u have here isn't even listed on ASUS website anymore. I'm using 1410 and it doesn't have the option to select any overclocking presets AND even if I select DOCP memory profile, there is no option to change eCLK Mode nor BCLK2 Frequency... Is this normal?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

Are you on a motherboard that has external clock generator support? Not all motherboards do. If your motherboard doesn't have external clockgens, then the option wouldn't show in the BIOS. ECLK option hasn't been removed from ROG X670E Hero as far as I know

@martitorm7285

Жыл бұрын

@@SkatterBencher I have x670e-a gaming wifi and based on what I can gather, all x670e boards should have eCLK mode and bclk2 frequency capability? If not, Asus x670e series bios manual is rubbish... *EDIT* after some further digging around, x670e-e and x670e-f only have given overclocking functionality, even though asus advertises x670e-f and x670e-a as the same thing more or less :(

I just built a 7800x3d and this is my first build since 2014 when I built a couple AMD Kaveri A10 7850 computers for my daughters. I did no overclocking on that one but at the same time I got a corsair AIO for my i7 2600k and tweaked it to 4.5ghz which is still runs today under the same AIO. That was fairly easy to do. CPU clocking seems to have gotten a lot more difficult. Would love more explanation on what all these different settings do to the CPU. Is that something you have gone over in your overclocking videos or does anyone have a suggestion on who to check out?

@SkatterBencher

3 ай бұрын

I suggest you can watch my longer guide on the 7800X3D. That should have everything you need to know about how it works + a couple of OC strategies ranging from easy to hard kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2SJpLeqYdCyd7w.html

Hey! I have Asus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus and on my board Extreme Tweaker --->AI Tweaker and there only one BCLK BCLK2 its motherboard feature?

@SkatterBencher

8 ай бұрын

Yes, support for 2 reference clock inputs must be supported on the motherboard hardware level. If you board does not have support, it's not possible to enable it in BIOS.

What is the difference betwen pbo enabled and pbo enhancement or is there a difference ?

@ertai222

Жыл бұрын

No idea. I just have it enabled.

first of all great tutorial! i followed all of your settings eclk at 107 and curve optimizer at positive 10 and llc at 10x. i pass all stress tests fine. occt, prime95, cinebench r23, and timespy without issue. did some memory tests as well with no issues but i get random reboots when broswing with chrome or when i do light load applications. do you have any tips on what i can do to make it stable when idle and in light load scenarios?

The MSI Afterburner shows me ingame Max 4,8 - 5 GHz. In CPU Z the boost is much higher to 5,4 GHz ?

@duckilythelovely3040

Жыл бұрын

That's because it's 5.4 on a single core, maybe 2 at times. All core load will be around 4.8-5

ngl, I don't think your 107eclk + PBO was really stable, especially not in mid core workloads. The best I can get stable was 106.25eclk on direct die. That said I could run obituary high eclk of 107+ too with over the top fclk to like 19750 (cb r23) / 7740 (cb r20) scores with PBO enabled. However you certainly won't pass y-cruncher VST or some medium CPU load stress tests. Cause the required voltage and very low temp ain't reachable at this point. Even with Vcore offset, you run into voltage/ thermal limit on direct die cooling. So there is no way you could get like 5.2ghz all core stable without using a static OC and like 1.28Vcore. That said, you won't be able to cool it cause the silicon gap filler above the CPU cores is just too hard of a thermal insulator without a chiller or LN2...

@SubL0ck

Ай бұрын

KZread overclockers dont give a fuck about stability and testing. They want “10 Ghz on my 7950x” clickbait video. Most of the times their so called OC only is valid in CPU-Z and totally goes down the hill in any serious workload.

What about the infinity fabric should I set it to auto or something else?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

In most cases, it's fine to leave the fabric to Auto and let the motherboard configure the appropriate value by itself

My stock curve is similar to yours but when I enable BCLK2 at 104mhz my curve begins around 4400 and ends around 4200, very linear and lower than stock at all points. I have PBO enabled without curve optimizer. I guess I'm doing something wrong.

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

What motherboard are you on? Sounds like Precision Boost is getting disabled when using ECLK

@hogunclu

Жыл бұрын

@@SkatterBencher Asus ROG Strix X670E-E Gaming WiFi (bios 1416 2023/05/16)

Cinebench r23 19098 pts on an asus board for 170 dollars, was around 5050mhz, 78 degrees with 280mm aio, 59watts, underwolted curve -40

@ericmartinez5633

4 күн бұрын

That ain’t stable 😂😂😂 u need to stress test. No 7800x3d is -40 stable

Please SkatterBencher, overclock the AMD Ryzen Dragon Range 7945HX next!

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to try overclocking mobile chips, but it's hard to find a vendor who'd let me take apart a laptop and it's pretty expensive to do it with my own money :) Maybe sometime in the future.

Could you make one with settings for a MSI B650/x670 board?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

Probably not. I tend to do 1 CPU with 1 motherboard, then move on.

106 works fine for me. Cinebench r23 scores 18800 points. I am getting error 107. What do you think I should try for 107?

@mevlutdogru489

3 ай бұрын

Edit: PC resets when running Crome while at 106. No problem at 105.

I did prime 95 with that settings. Firsly curve optimized -30 and the system shut down, after -25 and i had the same results. At 20 it runs normaly but i have 2 erros on 2 cores. IDK what to do. I have also enable PBO.

@SkatterBencher

6 ай бұрын

For more information on how overclocking 7800X3D works, I would refer you to the longer SkatterBencher guide kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2SJpLeqYdCyd7w.html

I have the Asus b650e-e. I can't do this😢

I have it with the gigabyte b650 gaming ax rev2 v1. It supports oc in the bios

can you make it on a asus b650 board

are these settings still recommended now? Have the 7800x3d and rog strix x670e

@SkatterBencher

5 ай бұрын

These settings are still valid, however I wouldn't recommend just copying them. I always suggest watching the longer SkatterBencher guide to get a full picture of the different OC Strategies kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2SJpLeqYdCyd7w.html

@taketotheskies6950

5 ай бұрын

@@SkatterBencher I see. The only worry is that I saw the CPU going over 1.3 SOC voltage so I'll have to make sure to avoid that when following the video

@SkatterBencher

5 ай бұрын

You can manually limit the VDDCR_SOC voltage in the BIOS, no?

@taketotheskies6950

5 ай бұрын

@@SkatterBencher yea I can but then I loose the 5.4 boost as my CPU wont go past 5.0

@SkatterBencher

5 ай бұрын

That's odd. Which setting are you changing to limit the VDDCR_SOC voltage?

In my case I can't bring my CPU over the 5050Mhz even if I set the BCLK2 Frequenzy to 105 or whatever it sticks to 5050Mhz.

@Juliensfanboyy

8 ай бұрын

Seems to be a BIOS Update problem. Used to work back then. Used to have stable 5.3 GHz and now it wont go past 5050

i dont have expo and i dont have eclk so can i overclock without it? i have asus prime x670e-pro wifi

@SkatterBencher

9 ай бұрын

You can use Curve Optimizer still. Check out OC Strategy #3 of my full overclocking guide kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2SJpLeqYdCyd7w.html

@davorivana414

9 ай бұрын

@@SkatterBencher whatever i do in bios my clock is always 4.6-4.9 ,there is no affect whatsoever. Curve optimizer -5 or -25 gives me same clock. I tryed 4 bios version.

Why won't it run at 5.7 Ghz, same as the 7950X3D? Since it has less cores, it should run FASTER/easier to cool?

@SkatterBencher

6 ай бұрын

TLDR: AMD saves the best CCDs with highest peak frequency for Ryzen 9 CCD0 and uses lower quality CCDs for Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5s. The frequency limitation for the 7800X3D isn't due to cooling or voltage, it's the inherent capability of the chips used in the product.

Thanks for the video, before I touch anything, I just need some help please. I just bought and put together ryzen 7 7800x3d and Gigabyte b650m ds3h with memory capable of doing 6000 mhz. I updated to the latest f6c bios from gigabyte right away when I put together everything. I have a 1000watt corsair power supply. My issue is it seems like the cpu is being limited to only 1.1 volts from what I can see using bios info and hwinfo64. I have not touched the ram with xmp profile yet because I don't know why the cpu voltage is only limited to 1.1 volts. In cinebench max clocks I get are 4.8ghz on all cores and it stays consistent (scores around 17,775). However, when gaming the core clocks seem to fluctuate with some cores sometimes going down to 3-4ghz range. Do you guys know what the problem is? I don't know what settings are making the processor do that. Again, my bios settings are still completely stock as of now. Thanks for any help with this. Stock Bios info reads: CPU Vcore: 0.882v CPU Vcore misc: 1.161v CPU Vcore SOC: 1.053v CPU frequency ≈4221 mhz BCLK ≈100 mhz Memory frequency ≈ 4800mhz

@Megatrance9000

Жыл бұрын

I have a similar issue. Did you find out?

@user-lw6ho2rg7d

Жыл бұрын

@Megatrance9000 I found that setting the soc volts manually in the bios to 1.2 volts with PBO per core all negative at 20 value keeps the clocks on the cpu at 5050 mhz with memory set at 6000mhz using either expo or xmp. Different fluctuations in cores speeds are apparently normal from what I've read online because most games don't fully utilize all 8 cores on it equally. This is of course my personal settings that worked for me. I hope this helps.

EXPO I gives you very poor latency ~74ns iirc at 6000 cl30 DR ime. I had to use expo tweaked to get to ~64ns. Further tweaking can bring it down more

@BaBaNaNaBa

Жыл бұрын

uhm 58ns here

@traecoleman9672

Жыл бұрын

@@BaBaNaNaBa good for you champ

@ertai222

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm sitting around 62-64 on average in Aida 64. I swear anyone getting sub 60ns isn't actually stable and is just posting screen shots for clout. Either that or it's on a completely clean OS with no background programs running. You'll never actually get 55-58ns under normal circumstances when using the PC like a normal person. And don't tell me I'm wrong because I'm not👍🏻 I've tweaked my ram for hours and the best I could ever get is like 61ns but it's not stable.

@awareDGZ

Жыл бұрын

@@ertai222 After tweaking i've got 38 ns stable

@ertai222

Жыл бұрын

@@awareDGZ nice try but no you didn't. That's literally impossible on the platform.

I can’t get over 104.0000. Meh,.. it’s a rad lil gaming chip. I dig it. Ordering another.

*REQUIRED - eCLK on MB* ASUS - x670e hero, exteme, gene, strix-e, strix-f ASROCK - x670e and b650e taichi MSI - x670e ACE GIGABYTE - x670e master extreme, b650e master tachyon

@abavariannormiepleb9470

4 ай бұрын

Any idea if the ASUS ProArt X670E-CEEATOR WIFI does also have eCLK support?

Please can u make one for msi ❤

Its a miracle the CPU didnt burn up...

Can this be done with the 7950x3d cache cores?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I already have a video up for the 7950X3D: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3arsNZvgKeTYJM.html

@Xanderdegroot

Жыл бұрын

@@SkatterBencher thats about the non 3d cores right? because you are stating that the 3d cores are still on 5250 but on the 7800x3d you are bring that 5250 to 5400 thats what i want to know if that is possible with the 7950x3d

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

I also use ECLK in OC Strategy #3 and this will increase the X3D CCD frequency

What would be the settings for an overclock to something like 4.7ghz or something like that?

@SeventhCircle77

Жыл бұрын

It already does 5ghz out the box

Can't find curve optimizer in bios.

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

If it's not in the main overclocking menu, Curve Optimizer should also be available in the AMD Overclocking menu (usually somewhere in advanced settings). What is your motherboard?

How do you determine which cores to set to positive and negative?

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

Manual testing. I explain it in detail in my longer SkatterBencher guides

does this work on my msi x670e carbon?

@SkatterBencher

4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if the Carbon supports async eclk mode

Pop!

Do 5700x3d please

What about burnings? When exceeding 1.3?

Can you do one without eCLK please like 99.9% of all motherboards thanks

@adilazimdegilx

Жыл бұрын

No, not possible.

The chapters in this video have wrong names

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

Oops, awkward. Thanks for the heads up, just fixed it :)

mine goes 5.514 ghz single core on it s own

You give 0 explanation on the most important part. How are we supposed to know which cores are strong and weak? All your videos you leave this out... This is pointless.

holy fuck 1.35v on the SOC? is that safe? lol

@Azortharion

Жыл бұрын

Probably not, but that's not the goal of videos like this.

@infineon222

Жыл бұрын

@@Azortharion oh okay. is the goal to blow the processors up?

@infineon222

Жыл бұрын

maybe burn the house down? lol

@lupo_aim

Жыл бұрын

No. The official limit is 1.30.

@lolmao500

Жыл бұрын

LOL meanwhile the Asus motherboards were overvolting the CPUs to 1.45V+ without the users knowning or even any overclock... even when the motherboard was "shutdown" and the fans werent running... thats why so many burned up.

is he using that ai thing to make it look like he's looking at the camera

@SkatterBencher

5 ай бұрын

No the awkwardness is all real

Do I really need an 500 dollar mainboard?!!!

your soc voltage is at 1.35v way too high !

@ericmartinez5633

4 күн бұрын

First time overclocking ehhh? That’s cute

@lolokikou5521

4 күн бұрын

@@ericmartinez5633 what ? 1.35 will kill the chip.

I feel cheated out of 26 seconds ;)

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

you sound like my girlfriend

@Justathought81

Жыл бұрын

@@SkatterBencher 🤣

This is done with AVX off, so you cant run games well with these settings for anyone curious..

@SkatterBencher

Жыл бұрын

Where did you get that? AVX is enabled and stable. In my longer SkatterBencher video you'll find also the Prime95 stability test with AVX enabled. I just only include the non-AVX in the 5 minute video because, well, I'm on a timer :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2SJpLeqYdCyd7w.html

@Justathought81

Жыл бұрын

He’s just running a non AVX workload to test temps and stability, all instructions work normally.

Are u insane? This cpu needs clocks decreasing! Clocks decrease = huge power decrease, cool & queit and neglible performance los in games.

B650e-f + block cpu temps to 65C in bios jobs done....5% perf loss and 30% colder

yeah, overcloack it so it will burn in 6 hours instead of 6 months. great!

Lol I dare anyone to do this with this CPU. This video is dishonest and leaves out the fact that he has a chip with good silicon. Also he doesn't mention the SOC voltage needs to be 1.25 or lower or you will fry your CPU. Lastly, he does not mention that you need to upgrade your bios as there are fixes that prevent the CPU from being fried. Very dishonest video.

@Joey-bq4hu

11 ай бұрын

"Dishonest" is a bit harsh - especially since in this video and in many of his other videos he makes note to clearly mention that "this is not the whole picture", and that these setting are specific to his cpu and not to copy his settings as your cpu quality and optimal settings will vary. In his longer video of this short video, he makes that statement at least 4 different times: note one of those at 16:52 - 17:05. In other videos, he states that silicon quality varies on each cpu, and he has mentioned in still other videos the outstanding quality of some of his personal cpus as well, noting that "this is a particularly good overclocking cpu", and he's mentionec BIOS updates as well, which is something most of us know but he doesn't have to qualify it in every single video, especially a 5 minute video in which every little thing can't be mentioned as there is a time limit. I guess you could through in to update the chipset drivers from AMD and not the board manufacturer also - where does it end?! These is HIS settings on THIS hardware, and though it is for "entertainment" purposes, one can also learn from it and adjust those setting to their own setup. I suppose that because my chip is not as good as his, nor I don't have a mobo that has Asynchronous mode, that it completely nullifies his results!

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