*the Speakers* Eminence Cannabis Rex 50-watt sweetwater.sjv.io/214E1G Jensen C12Q 35-watt sweetwater.sjv.io/75Y2aO Celestion G12M Greenback 25-watt sweetwater.sjv.io/rQ5ZaB Celestion Ruby 35-watt sweetwater.sjv.io/k0xeOv Celestion Vintage30 60-watt sweetwater.sjv.io/DK4PyG *the Microphone* ROYER R10 sweetwater.sjv.io/OrPgBA *the Guitar* Heritage H-535 sweetwater.sjv.io/JzYyMQ *the Amplifer* Revv D25 sweetwater.sjv.io/k0xeOx *the Audio Interface* Arturia 16Rig sweetwater.sjv.io/AW49PJ Wav Files from this video: www.patreon.com/posts/revv-d25-raw-wav-106801754?Link& How much does your speaker affect you overall guitar tone? Let's find out *Timestamps:* --------------------------------------------------------- 0:00 - Intro and Disclosure 1:10 - the Tone Question 1:40 - the Speakers and plans 2:00 - what is Reamping? 3:07 - Removing the stock speaker 4:00 - Playing with the Eminence Cannabis Rex 50-watt 6:32 - Playing with the Celestion G12M Greenback 25-watt 9:18 - Playing with the Jensen C12Q 35-watt 12:00 - Playing with the Celestion Ruby 35-watt 14:55 - Playing with the Celestion Vintage30 60-watt 17:42 - Reamping setup 18:00 - Eminence Cannabis Rex 50-watt Playback 19:59 - Celestion G12M Greenback 25-watt Playback 21:53 - Jensen C12Q 35-watt Playback 23:47 - Celestion Ruby 35-watt Playback 25:44 - Celestion Vintage30 60-watt Playback 27:38 - What I think about all of this and my surprise

@doctorskull8197

7 күн бұрын

Outstanding video ‼️❤️😍👍🔥

@BrickNewton

7 күн бұрын

Glen Fricker from the SMG channel would be happy to see this. He's a big proponent of the speaker being the biggest factor in changing guitar tone, his realm is high gain metal.

Hello Landon, Ignazio Vagnone from Jensen Speakers here. Great great video. Thank you for adding the Jensen C12Q in this test. We really liked the approach, and glad the C12Q was among your favorites. When it's about Tone, all is highly subjective, but what is important to remember is that the speaker is -by far- the most powerful filter your signal goes through, and also is the last one shaping your tone before hitting your ears and/or the microphone. All that comes before, picks, strings, wood, pickpus, effects, amps etc. is filtered and shaped by the speakers. Never underestimate their impact! If you, or anyone in the audience may have some questions, or wanting to know more about speakers in general or about the Jensen world, feel free to hit me anytime! Always ready for a good and nerdy tech/tone talk! Have fun! Ignazio Vagnone Jensen Speakers

@BrickNewton

7 күн бұрын

Can you please contact Glenn Fricker from the SMG channel as he's always looking for new suggestions for speakers and he's firmly in the change your speaker to change your tone camp and has tests to help prove it. It would be great if you could team up and do a collaboration.

@JensenSpeakersVideos

7 күн бұрын

@@BrickNewton I know Glenn, and there is a plan to collaborate... stay tuned!

@BrickNewton

7 күн бұрын

@@JensenSpeakersVideos good to know, and can't wait to see it.

@landonbailey

7 күн бұрын

hey great to hear from you!

@JensenSpeakersVideos

7 күн бұрын

@@landonbailey Hey, great having found your video! Anything you want to do in the speaker's world, I'm always ready to jump on it and share my thoughts etc. Speak soon!

I rang my friends at Sweetwater and asked them to send me over a bunch of stuff and they said eff off! Lol.

@cerberus50caldawg

6 күн бұрын

Yep. 😐 That's my luck also.

@eddiejr540

6 күн бұрын

Or…”can I have your card number” 🫤

Oh yeah….ive gone down this rabbit hole. Speakers make a way bigger difference than I ever thought….now I got speakers, speakers and more speakers!!

@southernpanda33

7 күн бұрын

I 💯 agree with that. I just replaced the stock Peavey Blue Marvel with the Eminence DV-77. Made a HUGE difference. Now I need more 😂😂

@thomaswagner6495

7 күн бұрын

Same. Started out with lots of guitars...then lots of amps and pedals...then lots of tubes...then lots of speakers. The speakers make as much difference in sound as an EQ.

@BillyTheKidsGhost

7 күн бұрын

@@thomaswagner6495 My Boss Ge-7 is my 5 different cabinets and speakers. Save your time and money. 😎

Glenn Fricker will approve of this video.

@11000038

7 күн бұрын

No it's the valves and pickups! Lol!

@DMSProduktions

7 күн бұрын

@@11000038 NO! IT'S THE PHUCKING HAIR! ARE YOU STUPID??? 🤪

@reggiesoundbox4923

7 күн бұрын

He'll probably shout it out loud too.🤣

@DMSProduktions

7 күн бұрын

@@reggiesoundbox4923 Ya got ta have a parteh! \m/

@zappasmoustache23

6 күн бұрын

@@11000038 hey don’t forget that all important factor, tonewoods😆

The Jensen was the one for me both clean and driven. The Ruby was outstanding with more drive. I think they all have a place, but those two were the best for me. Great comparison and content!

@jpizzleforizzle

7 күн бұрын

Same. I think I like the Ruby best.

@markferguson3745

7 күн бұрын

Amongst these types the Ruby is the most distinctive; people tend to really like or hate them.

@fourth80

6 күн бұрын

I was not expecting the Jensen to be my favourite, but the ears know what they like!

The Cannabis Rex is my number 1 choice... When i'm tired of it...i remove it and smoke it.

@robphillips8351

7 күн бұрын

Lol... I have a texas heat but has a bad smoking flavor.. killer tone though

@martinlahaie6012

7 күн бұрын

@@robphillips8351 lol...i recently switch to one Thang and one Heat in my 2x12 cab...the amazement continues...

@stephenharrell6170

7 күн бұрын

😂 goog idea 💡

@Riff65

7 күн бұрын

Eminence is my choice. There is clarity to it that is very nice, especially the OD tones, where the other speakers were, I don’t know how to quantify this exactly, but to say a bit garbled on the OD tones. Nice ringing quality on the cleans, but they were all fine there. So with “that” guitar and “that” amp, Eminence for the win.

@robphillips8351

7 күн бұрын

@@martinlahaie6012 I bet that is a killer combination 👍👍

You put a huge amount of effort into this. Thank you. Conclusion : All the speakers can deliver a very usable tone. Possibly the Greenback is a bit over excursion as it was mostly used in SEALED 4x12 Marshall not a single unit in an open cabinet . Top work, Sir. 😎♥️

I have a close friend who is a fantastic guitar player. In the mid 1980s he installed JBLs into his Fender Twin. That Twin was on a whole another level.

@ransbarger

7 күн бұрын

I did the same thing at the same time, and I got the same results. I let a famous blues artist use it one night when his went down in the middle of a show. He wanted to buy it from me after one set.

@Straydogger

7 күн бұрын

I had a 68/69 Twin back in the 70s with JBL d-120 speakers. That thing was SOOOOO Loud! It was extremely heavy though. Killer amp.

@lukegoffkat

6 күн бұрын

That's what I had always put in my amps as well. It was that way for a long time until Celestian came out. I was hooked on them forever and I think the V30 was the right choice for this amp. Sounded the best to me, though I disagreed with hating the greenback, I thought it had the best distortion tone of them all.

@dancotterman1267

6 күн бұрын

I gad a Kustom 200 with three jbl-d130's altec lansing. 15" for guitar. Was so loud I have diminished hearing now. What? Good video.

@pauljj3582

5 күн бұрын

I have and still use my JBL E-120-8 from 1983. it smokes everything I have ever tried. Mesa 90, Eminence Swamp Thang, Carvin 100 watt Vintage and GT series, Eminence Vintage 30.

Jim Lill and Glenn Fricker have totally destroyed all of the myths and misconceptions regarding electric guitar tone. Totally recommended viewing.

@landonbailey

5 күн бұрын

This is What Happens When You Sell Garbage kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4N407iFm7O0Zrg.html

Both of my amps/cabs have new/different speakers than the original ones. I learned a long time ago that the speakers play the most critical role in the overall tone. Great examples here for sure!! Great job!

Funnier than most comedians Speakers are what your ears hear. The first electric guitar was a 2 x 4, and everyone loved it. Hard to argue with that simple fact. Well done. Easy to see why they sent you the speakers for the experiment.

@markmoriarty7388

6 күн бұрын

Al Nee coh! Never heard it pronounced that way before. Well as we all know ( or should know ) Alnico is equal parts aluminum, Nickle,, and cobalt; the best combined metallurgical substance for capturing a magnetic field. Hence the acronym.The whole weird pronunciation debacle is probably a purely Canadian thing. At least you managed to spit it all out without going into " Landon tounge tripping mode" Sorry man, don't know why I'm giving you such a hard time today. I'ts because I love your site and have a good informative time watching it. I'm also just slightly intoxicated at the moment but I know you will keep this to yourself and the speakers.The Revv combo amp is cool as well you know!?!?!

The Ruby is “buttery” with a “fat crunch” when overdriven. Nice. The Jensen is “chimey” and sounds like a Fender (surprise). Classic. The Vintage 30 “cuts great when clean” and has a nice “wide” tone when driven. My favorite all-around. The Cannabis is “metallic” especially when driven hard, yet “warm” when clean. A great “80s Boston” or “90s Nirvana” choice. Maybe not the best driver for a blues player though. Finally, the Greenback sounds best when in a posse, ie - a 4x12 cabinet. It’ll get fat (and loud) when needed, but still has plenty of “crunch”. Definitely not a 1x12 choice

A buddy of mine spent a couple years collecting guitar speakers and built a couple cabs with quick release speaker mounts so he can quickly swap out speakers. He usually runs a greenback and v30 in a 2x12 cab and it sounds great. When combined it sounds great. Speakers will make a bigger impact on tone than guitar wood, or even pickups.

I put Jensen C12Qs in my Silvertone Twin Twelve and they sound really nice with a Stratocaster.

All very good speakers, great demo! Tough choice to make! The Ruby was nice

V30 and Ruby both sounded great with the gain cranked. Jensen was lovely clean.

@zachjarrett8730

3 күн бұрын

That was my experience too.

Man what a great experimental setup! Ideal to hop between the speakers in the video and hear the differences. Thank you!!!

Recently I swapped out a CR for a C12. The CR sounds great at louder volumes. Smooth, wooly like he said, a bit dark. At lower volumes lacked chime, too dark. The CR12 had that chime at a modest volume. I think for loud live use a cab w the CR would be nice, but for practice and smaller gigs I’d take the CR.

That was a huge amount of work, and much appreciated. The Ruby was my favorite overall. but I can using any of them depending on the application. I'm going to need to buy more cabinets!!

@douglasdort

7 күн бұрын

4x12, one of each?

Yep, speakers make a huge difference and as I’ve come to find out through testing different speakers for some cabs I built, one that sounds good with distortion doesn’t necessarily sound the best for clean and vice versa. Its fun to run your amp into an IR loader like a Two Notes setup and test a bunch of speaker curves through an FRFR speaker.

Thanks for providing the audio files so we can listen critically without KZread compression squashing dynamics! Great idea!

Thanks for the RAW downloads.

@landonbailey

6 күн бұрын

No problem

The Greenback can't handle the output of the amp, a Creamback would have been a better choice. But I really liked the driven sound on lower volumes. I was surprised by the Jensen, really nice cleans.

Nice video! I dig that Jensen and that Celestion Ruby.

Cream Alnico Celestion. I went through about 8 speakers in my cab and that one blew me away. It has a much wider dynamic range than most of the other speakers I tried. I pair it up with a Vintage 30 for a perfect balance of wide range and cutting bite.

Really good subject to cover. Thanks, Landon!

@landonbailey

7 күн бұрын

My pleasure!

Really nice demonstration. Glad you di re-amping. Loved the sound of the Cannabis Rex. But if it is classic tones you are seeking the Greenback sure is it.

Great video. I've always found that all too often so many guitarists don't pay enough attention to their amp and the speakers that are in it. You really did a great job with this one.

@landonbailey

6 күн бұрын

Rock on!

I dig the red one or the stock one but think i liked the red one the best. This has been helpful because im changing the speakers in some 1X12 cabs i have. It’s good that i seen this video before i did it.

I LOVE the Jensen

@sgholt

7 күн бұрын

Did you have to break yours in? I got a Jensen c12n, very birght...I am guessing it will mellow with time.

1 - Ruby, 2 - V30, 3 - Jensen. All three sound good and would be fine with any one of them. Have a V30 in my cab so I might be slightly bias. Cheers!

@Landon, A very good video!!! Thanks For Sharing 🧠🎸🎶🎶 Rock On! 🎸🎶

its all about tone and your set up great video😆

Great comparison - thanks!

Nice video, i have always been a fan of the Celestion Vintage 30

I guess this is why guys like Eric Johnson and now even Zakk use 2 amp/cab combos. The Jensen sounded great clean, but a hissing fizz driven where as the Ruby sounds like it has a blanket over it clean, but OMG driven is it BEAUTIFUL! The Ruby has "won" several high gain shootouts. So moral of the story, put the Jensen in your clean amp cab with the GK RL250 and the Ruby Celestion in the marshall stack under the Superlead 100.

I can’t decide between the stock speaker and the Ruby. Great video and loads of effort in swapping out all the speakers. Would you ever do a similar video for tube comparisons? 🤔

Great work! Thanks for the video. To my ear, it’s really hard to beat the stock v30. It sounds really, really good clean and overdriven. I also liked the cannabis Rex a lot.

Having been a guitar player since the early 1970’s and having gone through many amps, that Jensen speaker was the most musical to my ears. Great video comparison though. I started out with Les Pauls and Marshalls then shortly there after, moved on to Strats and Fender amps. Thanks for your efforts on this, it was very imformative. Guitar player in Georgia.

Speakers are definitely a factor on tone in general but also they have a break in period that makes a big difference. In my assessment anyway. With 4x12 cabs you can mix speaker sets as well. I have 4 4x12 speaker cabs with different speaker sets installed. They each have different characteristics. I generally use one or two at a time depending on where I’m playing. They are loud but that’s not my focus or why I use them. I want to sound big and large not loud. Cool video, I have greenbacks, vintage 30s, eminence Texas heat, and patriots, webers and Jensen, I’m sure I’m forgetting others I have but that’s the bulk of em. Thanks LB…

In terms of tube amps the single most important component in the amp is the output transformer. That's what the speakers are interacting with so I'd put that up there in importance after speakers, output tube type is up there as well.

@landonbailey

2 күн бұрын

I like Optimus Prime!

Great vid and nice riff choices. Jensen was the most fender-y. V30 was very well rounded. The ruby reminded me of a qotsa type sound. The cannabis didnt impress me in the vid, but i have a 10” CRex in a 4x10 cab that sounds great….maybe its contextual?🤷‍♂️

Great video Landon, you keep getting better and more informative, really enjoyed, suprisingly liked the Jensen the best. Have one cab with a UK Greenback and one cab with a V30. Like the Greenback best of the two. Keep it up!

@landonbailey

6 күн бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

I've only had a few amps but the one I use now is a Traynor 50 watt keyboard amp. It handles my Boss ME 50 very well. It is a closed cabinet has a woofer and a tweeter. I like this tone better then any open back amp I have tried. I have paired it up with a Traynor Bloc 50 that is much the same build. I get a nice stereo effect when using the chorus pedal. More than enough for my spare bedroom space.

Hey thanks for the video. Speaker but then also mic(s) and its or their placement have an equal or even bigger impact.

Since the Greenback is rated for 25 watts you were probably exceeding the power handling and getting speaker distortion when you cranked it, since the power rating of a tube amp is the end of its clean headroom rather than the maximum amount of power it can output. (Assuming you had the amp in 25 watt mode) Celestion makes a different series of speakers called Creambacks which aim for a Greenback-like sound but with greater power handling.

@jasondorsey7110

7 күн бұрын

I'm a big fan of creambacks, they might not sound exactly like a greenback but they have a similar vibe, and to my ears a little more body to the sound, specifically great for upgrading otherwise tinny sounding solid state amps

@nunninkav

Күн бұрын

The creamback is for like a 100w amp.

@jasondorsey7110

Күн бұрын

@@nunninkav The 12" is 65 watts, the 10" is 45 watts...you would need multiples for a 100w amp.

Love Eminence speakers. Nice even tone.

Thanks for doing this. Speakers don't get nearly the attention they deserve. I liked the Jensen. My estimation of the total contribution to sound in a typical signal chain is as follows: speakers 20%, amp 25%, effects 40%, which leaves just 15% for everything on the guitar, most of which will be the strings (around 5%), pickups (around 7%), and maybe 3% everything else. I believe you are correct that the wood of which the guitar is made almost doesn't matter at all.

@vorpalblades

7 күн бұрын

I would go drivers 40%, amp 40%, guitar/electronics/hardware 15%, everything else 5%.

@xadovitch6630

7 күн бұрын

Well, in a perfect setup, if the strings are missing I can tell you that you will not get 95% of your tone

@pharmerdavid1432

6 күн бұрын

Jim Lill did a video that narrowed it down to the speaker CABINET, showed the cabinets are what influence the sound more than anything else.

@cerberus50caldawg

6 күн бұрын

@@pharmerdavid1432 True every speaker has a different characteristic and that is why box modeling and different cab configurations do matter as much and more then the speaker itself. The speaker does matter of course. Jim Lil did a superb job on that video. I really liked this test also. Paired with the speakers attributes and requirements the box itself does mean everything to a speaker. But that said each and every speaker is different and has it's own attributes so it really us the speaker and the enclosure working together to bring out the best of both. Not so much one or the other. Jim Lil's videos are outstanding but I think he could have benefited with a little insight into that truth. As he says in his videos he doesn't know nothing he is just doing a battery of tests to see what he can see. Take a stab at trying something and making a conclusion. And that is superb. So many people like to mentally mast ur bate instead of just doing it you know??? Always more productive to ef around and find out any day I say. Just like this little round of testing was very well thought out and implemented. I think if in Jim Lil's case he did a little dive into sealed vs ported vs open baffle and considering the thiele/small parameters for proper enclosure volumes for a given speaker and the actual speaker position placement in the enclosures baffle in accordance with resonance bracing damping etc. Not just random size and random enclosure types but actual enclosures designed for the speakers he could gain a better result and open some peoples eyes yet again. But speakers boxes are usually thought out by the amp designer to be how they are for a reason. I saw an interview of the dude who designed the original SVT cabinets and amps at Ampeg and what went into that. It basically is R&D with prototypes to get the proper desired functionality and performance. It is the way. Without this knowledge any random box can be magic with one specific speaker and yet make everything else sound like garbage. And it would all be a complete mystery with no rhyme or reason. Change the box and try the exact same speakers and new winners will appear because the box and the speaker need to work together. This test here suffers from the same flaws. The Vintage 30 to many peoples ear sounds the best but the amp was actually made for it. I'm talking box design/dimensions wise for the parameters and the performance. It's a good all round speaker and a decent compromise in quality and sound vs expense and then you build the amp box to bring out it's best characteristics. And that is how you get to be a great well known name in Amp building. The same shoe does not feel the same for every foot even though they may be the same size and rough;y the same shape. People walk different and they have different needs for support protection etc. So putting all these different speakers into the same box does show which ones can use the box better. True the speakers can improve on sound just on there individual characteristics alone but overall you want to build the box that suits the speaker not just throw it into a random hole it fits into if you really want to bring out the overall best sound from the speaker and amp. Granted most of these are used for a generic application exactly such as this.. some random replacement as long as it's a 12 inch hole in the cab it's good. Trial and error it. But it can be a crap shoot. Generally expensive high quality better designed speakers are going to always trump low quality drivers in any box in the usual scenario. But not 100% always. The box might be perfectly made for the crap speaker and done so well even though it doesn't sound awesome it works fine and the expensive replacement might sound like hot garbage in the same box. But there is a clear answer to this problem. The manufacturer gives you the parameters for the speaker so you can determine the exact design and proper volume of box needed for the speaker to operate in most proficiently. Usually this is also accompanied with recommendations from the manufacturer for the best enclosure type to enhance a certain sound you are after. So this test is flawed just as Jim Lil's test was because science! LOL Every last one of these speakers are going to sound great and perform better in a custom made for it enclosure. The simple truth. And yes they each will have their own unique voice characteristics still when they are in their own custom box. In this box.. I loved the Jensen. For me it works in this box combo as tested. The ruby could use a little different box but I did like what it was doing better then the Vintage 30 in this cab.It really rang on the highs nice and clear. The vintage 30 was made for the thing and no surprise it was a great all rounder overall. The Cannabis Rex I don't know what it needed but a different box maybe coulda helped it out. It couldn't hurt it. It was too harsh and brittle for my taste. I personally think that the Greenback needed a sealed box to get it's best here. The rattle at higher volumes and the fact it is darker sounding and not as bright as all the rest but the bass was still muddy and not tight meant it was suffering from a lack of suspension. Some trial and error and determining sealed vs ports vs open back even without the perfect parameters for volume and whatnot could really have turned my ear around on all these speakers I'm sure. Just my thoughts. If I can get Sweetwater to send me speakers to test for free! But I don't make videos and I'd keep em all. LOL😝

Great comparison video! My two faves were the Jensen and the Celestion Vintage 30. Funny enough they're the ones in my amps. The Jensen in my Fender Champion and the Vintage 30 in my Roland Blues Cube. Great amps and speakers. Thanks for confirming what my ears were originally hearing back when I chose them. Sweetwater is the bomb aren't they?

I liked the Jensen C12Q, it namaged to sound crisp and clear on the cleans and wonderfully gnarly and with out being boomy on the distorted parts. Well suited to the parts you playd from The Bends. The Vintage is more of an all-rounder, also a phenominal speaker but, not as clear and crisp. I like these two the best but would use them for different stuff. One thing the Jensen has going for it is how it always seem to cut throug in a band setting.

I like the Ruby and the Green back.

I was suprised by the Jensen. A toss up between it and the Ruby.

I got a 5150 Iconic 40w and its a fantastic amp. I heard that one of the placed they cheaped out on was the speaker so I switched it with a celestion creamback heavy and it did make it sound so much better. It just rounded out the tone. Worth the money for sure.

Vintage 30 takes the cake for me.

@lukegoffkat

6 күн бұрын

Same here!

@charlesmerfeld2988

2 күн бұрын

Chose the correct v30

Absolutely speakers! They can really color the tone of an amp!! 👍

Hey Landon, love your videos- I would love to see a speaker review including a Weber speaker, specifically the Blue Dog in ceramic and alnico - don’t see many Webers reviewed

Facgtory(ies) in Texas (Dallas area) Manufacture the Magnets for most of the Big and medium Speaker manufacturers. Toured on in Duncanville area years ago.

I have the cannabis rex in my Special Edition Green Hot Rod Deluxe and it sounds great. I have a Vintage 30 in my Deluxe Reverb. and you can't go wrong with that in any amp. I thought that Jensen sounded pretty good.

Best speakers I have are the eminence swamp thang and texas heat put that in a combo and you will be glorious full and loud as a half stack or more with a open back. Best speaker purchase I ever made.

i really liked the jensen, the ruby, and the v30. they all sound very different, but very good. just depends on what you are wanting to sound like. THAT makes this a great and helpful video. thanks ! steve

Jenson was the best for me. It was a bit low on bass in some parts, but it could be added with the amp controls. Whereas the speakers which didn't have the clarity of the Jenson would probably not be able to get that clarity by adding more treble. Maybe an EQ pedal could find some of those missing frequencies. The second best was the stock speaker, the Vintage 30. Landon, thank you for doing this. Great job. One thing to consider is that most of us will never play at those volumes. Will the characteristics at maximum volume be there at lower volume settings where we play most often? One more thing; never curse or insult your viewers. Even the ones that don't like you or complain a lot are giving your videos clicks. Let them complain often. That means they're contributing to your income. Wouldn't it be great to have a million people hating you and watching all of your videos? It's a perspective you need to consider. As some people have said, "Monitize your haters."

That V30 was surprisingly good in the clean tone settings. But the Ruby is the all time winner here: both clean and dirty sounds were epic

You should try this out with your Princeton! I have the Sweetwater version of the Princeton in tweed finish with the C-Rex speaker stock. I always felt the C-Rex pulled a little too much of the top end off, so I swapped it with a Jupiter 25 watt. It was night and day. Tone is subjective, and everyone likes different things. For me, this swap was perfect and I'm extremely happy. It can be a rabbit hole though with so many options.

I bounce between a vintage C12 N and a V30 in my 1964 Deluxe Reverb. Your test was well done

It's not just your "personal opinion" that speakers have the largest impact on tone. It's a provable fact. It's been shown to be the case in hundreds of tests. It's all just common sense if you understand physics and signal chain. But for some reason people want to cling to their myths.

@ymelfilm

6 күн бұрын

yes. a cheap 50W Katana combo can sound much better with other speakers than with its own.

@eddiejr540

6 күн бұрын

Agreed 👍

Interesting video, even better music choice for demoing. Cheers!

Absolutely true my old 120 Blue Voodoo was muddy “Drop C” but in 99’ I found 2 Greenbacks and 2 Silverbacks it immediately changed everything! To this day I use 2 Greens and 2 Silvers in every cab

@vorpalblades

7 күн бұрын

What speakers were stock in it? Mine has the stock Eminence, they sound great but were only in the first 2-3 years of production.

Thanks for doing this video, Landon. I liked the Jensen and the Ruby in the REVV D25. Maybe it's a coincidence that they are both 35 watt speakers, or maybe not. I have a few different amps using different 8 ohm 12" speakers and I have thought closely matching the amp's output wattage with the speaker wattage was a good idea. I think I learned that it may be just a good starting point. The question I have is whether breaking in the speakers would make a difference in the comparison. Any thoughts on that?

I was digging the Jensen speaker sound pretty good though the headphones

Jensen reminds me of Fender cleans and overdrive. Overall Jensen, and the V30 can’t go wrong.

I own a Heritage 535 and an H159 , both relic's and AWESOME!!! Fantastic guitars!

The two five one taking you to Am was Bdim to E7 to Am. Because you used the key of Am to build your 251 you had to use the minor chord numbering sequence: 1 min, 2 dim, 3 Maj, 4 min, 5 min, 6 Maj, 7 Maj and back to minor. This happens because the minor scale is the 6th mode of the Major scale. Everything in music theory is built from the major scale. So if you write out the major scale in chord types; M m m M M m d, twice in a line and start counting from the sixth chord upwards you get the minor chord sequence. Same applies to all the modes. Nice to see the diminished chord being used properly without saying "these are not useful so steer clear".

This is probably one of your best and most informative videos - this must've been a ton of work.

Great demo! A bit of a drag having to remove the power tubes. I also found swapping pickups of the same type (ie PAF) make only a subtle difference, the most dramatic change is with a speaker swap

Well, looks like someone just made Glenn Fricker a very happy man, LOL!!!

I've noticed that speakers do make a difference , but I have found how you set the p.a. mix also makes a huge different. I prefer the shure sm 57 to mic my amp with.

I'm 70 years old and in my 20's i had a Peavy Musician 400 head with 2 baffles each with 4 12 inch Jenson speakers. Volume set on 3 was plenty and the sound so clean. Wish I never sold it.

@CanadianRockerGuy

7 күн бұрын

I see so many people saying that, I've got some nice amps right now and I'm gonna try not to sell them because I'll probably be like, damn! never shoulda sold it! Lol

@cerberus50caldawg

6 күн бұрын

@@CanadianRockerGuy sell em today can't afford to buy them tomorrow!

I have an ancient Fender Bullet Reverb that the original Fender speaker was buzzing in (old and dried out). Replaced it with the Celestion V30 and while it sounds much better I was wondering if I made the right choice. Looks like I did based on your findings. Not cost prohibitive for the sonic gains. Thanks for this comparison!

Great concept for a comparison. The re-amp thing adds a lot of integrity to the process, because no matter how hard we try to be consistent, the sound we hear affects the way we play. And I appreciate you did different bits with different tones. The only suggestion would be to re-edit the video and instead of playing all 4 (or 5 or whatever) segments through one speaker before moving on to the next speaker, let us hear the same segments from each speaker back-to-back before moving on to the next guitar tone. You don't need to reshoot anything - just re-edit the vid. If you want to add content, comment on the sounds at the end of each segment. I suspect no one speaker is the best for all sounds. Then we can have a nice chart at the end comparing ratings of each speaker for each type of sound.

Very interesting comparaison Landon, My preferences are the Celestion Ruby and the Celestion Vintage 30. Those guys at REVV really know their stuff. Keep up the good work and the funny parts in your presentations.

Much time and work you've dedicated to this worthy and very appreciative cause😉👍 The Jenson may be just the right speaker after break-in, as the feel of the Ruby, it may be too much...? Brave to sit THAT close to an amp wide open with a semi-hollow 😉👍 Thanks for the useful and abundant information 😎👍👍

@jasondorsey7110

7 күн бұрын

The jensen reissues sound great run clean, they nail the classic american sound...dirty though, you're better off with something like a celestion or eminence...most well-rounded I've come across is EV, a first-gen sro alnico sounds good in just about anything, but they're big and heavy, and finding one that isn't worn out at this point is gonna cost you

@richardlynch5632

7 күн бұрын

@@jasondorsey7110 Had the opportunity to play through an EV...sounded really clear and full.👍👍

This makes me want 2 cabs or a 2x12 with a Jensen and a Ruby to balance the highs and lows. The speakers makes a big difference, but the comparison may not come out the same with a different amp or guitar.

Thanks for going to all this trouble we appreciate your efforts. You should give the Celestion Black Back a go, excellent edge of breakup!

I loved this test. The differences were massive. And I disagree with your preference. Goes to show how much speakers matter and how personal it is to the player. I loved the Greenback. It seemed to take up the whole range of sonic space. I didn't hear a single bad sound, though. Just different sounds. Thanks for this, sir! Cheers 🥂

It is really easy to do this with any amp modeling software. To get some width in my rhythm tracks I just use a different speaker on the left and right track without changing anything else. I do this with real amps into Captor X as well.

I would go with the Jensen, I like how articulate it is and it sounds very alive and dynamic.A great speaker especially for the price.

I liked the Jensen the most followed by the V30 with the Greenback coming in third. The others either sounded too boxy or muffled for my taste. The Jensen was just a tad too bright, but that's easily remedied.

Great video… Myself no being rich, I ordered a 312 cab loaded with Vintage 30’s from Tholman,,, it sounds great and in your test was my favorite. #2 was the Ruby. I seriously wonder what my set up would sound like if I were to remove one of my vintage 30s and replace it with a Ruby….

Cabinet resonance has a lot to do with sound.

@martinaddison4880

7 күн бұрын

@peterburl, TRUE!

Red and the original celestion sound great in my view.i have a princeton 650 with a 12 in Celestion 80 speaker ..sounds awesome to me .

I had the 12" Cannabis Rex in my Princeton, the Ragin Cajun is better but it's a 10". My all-time favorites are the Jensen C12K (100w) and Eminence Swamp Thang (150w). I play mostly clean. Vintage low watt speakers get muddy with reverb.

I have a 2x cab and have one greenback and one V30, they work perfectly together.

A whole lot easier to use an extension cab. I have a quick change Burriss no longer in production, but the best idea ever!

I have a ton of speakers in my closet and mostly use the Jensen C12k in my 1x12 cabinet, using either a BF Bassman or SLO 30.

Great idea for a speaker comparison video. We’ll done.

I use a Modeler. In that environment, the Speaker and Mic combination make a huge difference. I tested various pickups, single coil, humbucker, noise cancelling, etc., in the sound hole of an Acoustic Guitar. I was really shocked when I put Strat Pickups in it, and the guitar sounded like my Strat. So Pickup type makes a big difference. Though the guitar design and wood may make some difference, it is very small compared to other things that make up the signal chain based on my many tests. I think Pick Material/Shape, Strings, and Pot/Cap values significantly outweigh the tonal impact of the wood and finish.

@bricebowlin8834

5 күн бұрын

​@@picksalot1 I'm going to totally disagree with you there. You're saying material of your pic makes it bigger difference than What your guitar is made from? Totally totally disagree there, in fact, I don't think picks make that much difference at all.. In fact I can prove it: think of all the guitarists that don't use a plectrum. Rarely can you tell . That being said, I do believe there's a difference in say a steel pic versus plastic. But as far as different plastics, plastic versus wood I think the make up your guitar is much more noticeable. As far as the shape of your pick, Makes absolutely zero difference. That is if you're only comparing shape, not style that is governed by shape

@picksalot1

4 күн бұрын

@@bricebowlin8834 In my own extensive tests between Pick materials, thicknesses, and shapes, they all can have a dramatic effect, particularly on "clean" tones. Certainly the effect of a Pick can be overwhelmed by other factors, but most accomplished guitarists put in a lot of time to find the Pick that sounds and feels right. The many different materials, shapes, and thicknesses also indicates it can make a significant difference. YMMV

And then you can try like a 2x12 or a 4x12 and not only mix and match your speakers but you can also get different sounds depending on the construction of the cabinet itself.

Ahh!! Glorious hollow body feedback!. I have a Greenback in my AC15 and a custom cab with a Cannabis Rex

they all sounded pretty much the same to me. The Ruby on the reamp was nice. Any of them would work. Gotta remember they were all coming over my computer speakers (2 tweeters and a woofer).