5 Common MTB Drivetrain Cleaning & Lubing Mistakes | How To Avoid Them
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Cleaning and lubing your mountain bike's drivetrain is something that you should take care of if you want to get the most from your components! In this video, our ex-world cup bike mechanic Henry warns you away from the 5 most common mistakes.
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What drivetrain maintenance mistakes has Henry missed? Let us know👇
@atlantisfreediving
4 жыл бұрын
I do pay a lot of attention also when rinsing my cassette as the contaminated water, carrying oil from the cassette can spray on to the disc rotor. I like to wrap the rotor in a clean rug when washing the cassette :)
@FedBiker
4 жыл бұрын
How to easily clean the compressed black gunk that accumulates on the surface of pulleys and chain rings where the chain's rollers fit?
@atlantisfreediving
4 жыл бұрын
@@FedBiker I use toothbrush for that (old one of course)
@knott4me561
4 жыл бұрын
@fedbiker switch to squirt wax based lube now and watch the difference .trick is to apply to a spotless dry drivetrain.lube night before ride and lube twice on first application...its a revelation and i wont touch anything else
@Robinators
4 жыл бұрын
IF you notice that your chain has streched - it's time for a new bike!
I remember the time my brother thought it would be a good idea to WD40 his entire bike! Brakes included 😔
@jacobprimrosemtb
4 жыл бұрын
Migatron1 that must have been a bad day for him 😂😬
@benasquith26
4 жыл бұрын
My dads mates used to do it on purpose to each others brakes. Bet they were fast dh
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
😭
@Dantick09
4 жыл бұрын
Great to clean the cassette thought
@noname-sd5dt
4 жыл бұрын
Some say he is still rolling today
I've just cleaned my bike and watched this. Now I am crying.
Not sure who this guy is but he's very good. Everything was well explained, good length, and even a bit amusing.
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy! This is Henry from GMBN Tech. Here is a link to the channel 👉 gmbn.eu/subscribetogmbntech
@rupedog
4 жыл бұрын
Guess ur new to gmbn...its Henry 'the prof' Quinney, from gmbn tech mainly. He was pro race team tech...know his bikes and his socks😁
Bloody love Henry. As good a signing for GMBN as Van Dijk has been for Liverpool.
@benc7292
4 жыл бұрын
Jack Dempsey he’s not wrong
@mf3616
4 жыл бұрын
YNWA!!
@Oldfatbeerman
4 жыл бұрын
I agree , Almost makes up for that one total knob we all have to put up with on GMBN .
@mf3616
4 жыл бұрын
@@Oldfatbeerman who was that? Scotty Laughland?
Easy way to avoid brake contamination (discs or rim brake for that matter) is remove the wheels and place them a decent distance away from the bike before lubing everything up. You can also put cheap freezer bags over the calipers and seal off with an elastic band. Then make sure you wait for the lube to cure off or any excess to drip off (I leave mine an hour) before putting the wheels back on.
Fantastic tips as usual from Henry!
I've have my own method of applying lube to chain, and cassette. I use an pure bristle half inch lining fitch, ( paint brush) I load the brush with lube and apply it to the whole drivetrain. It works perfectly with no contamination of any other components. Try it, you won't look back.
I lube each individual roller one by one, not just running the chain along under the lube nozzle...weirdly satisfying detailed task
Awesome ! My bike is now so much cleaner and nicer. It really help me how to clean it and also how to use the right tool.
Nice video bud, well spoken and to the point.
I watched this to make sure I’ve been doing it right for the last 23 years.
@timyassa4343
3 жыл бұрын
I've never one cleaned mine and it works fine 🤷♂️
@nebe0719
2 жыл бұрын
@@timyassa4343 I do it for looks tbh
@sassyassasin2712
2 жыл бұрын
@@timyassa4343 You must live somewhere with nice roads and mellow weather. If I leave my bike without cleaning for more than 2 days, it would be caked in mud and rusted.
@timyassa4343
2 жыл бұрын
@@sassyassasin2712 nah I just put it back in the garage when I'm done
Cheers Henry great tips their 👍
Toplad Harry! Cheers for the tips!
Some great tips Henry ...I cover my brakes using a large sandwich bag .stops any contamination from spray
@jdavis417
4 жыл бұрын
I always take any shower caps I might find in hotels, etc. There are also plastic wrap products with rubber bands at the edges for covering dishes/leftovers... these are nice to shield brakes and rotors and even to keep your seat clean/dry when parked.
I’m lucky to have cabinet’s full of quality car detailing supplies...my other passion. Most of the products I use for decontamination, cleaning and protecting work extremely well for bikes. Most of the materials and parts you find on vehicles clean up and protect the same way with Mountain bikes. One of my favorite products I use is Carpro ECH2O. It’s a waterless wash and quick detailer. It’s an Sio2 based product that helps protect the paint and plastics on vehicles. I use it after the wash on all the painted and plastic surfaces...especially on the suspension. Creates a super slick surface that repels water and crud .makes cleanup the next time around super easy. Most of the mud and crud just rinses off with minimal work!!
I use a bit of foam from a sponge when I apply chain lube, wet or dry... Soak the chain and catch the excess in the sponge, then rub the moistened sponge all along the drive train to collect any excess lube that might have dropped out of the rollers... Helps keep the bike and the garage clean from spills and seems to prevent the extra grime and debris pickup from riding. I didn't know about letting dry lube set for a moment before wiping it down, gonna remember that for next time
Thanks for the tips
Nice tips 👌
Good job!
Thanks for the video. 👍🏻👍🏻 It looks like you are using Bike Protect on a Matte frame?? I have a matte black MTB myself and are concerned if the Bike Protect result, will make the frame “shine” too much afterwards?? Mostly because I love the matte finish. Thnx
(Sorry, different cleaning topic) I used muc off to clean my bicycle, but it is some really aggresive stuff, it ate away a layer of paint after a minute. Not for plastic bikes I guess! I use it with a little water now.
Cover the cassette and deurallier with TFR and jet wash it...brings it up a treat!
Best socks ever😂🤘
I put a bit on each pin and then rotate the drive train a few dozen times to work it in and then wipe any surface oil away with a rag buy turning the drivechain with the chain wrapped in a clean rag. Seems to work well and stops dirt building up on the chains surface.
What video was that with Sam pilgrim and Blake putting grease everywhere! Haha
@willarnold91
4 жыл бұрын
I have the same question..?
@komerka35
4 жыл бұрын
"How Not To Maintain Your Bike With Blake Samson & Sam Pilgrim", amazing video
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
👀👉 gmbn.eu/notclean 🤣
@mosxidigaming
4 жыл бұрын
@@gmbn no thats the wrong link...
@mosxidigaming
4 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/ooOI1NGjfKfKe5c.html
Love your videos
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ethan! 🤘
good tips!
Thanks for the video, im new to this so really nice to learn. Though, should i only lube the chain or should i put some lube on the cassetes as well?
@Sam-vb9hf
3 жыл бұрын
A small line along the inside of the chain should be fine
Great video, For someone who is new to biking. I’ve just cleaned my chain and lubed it for the first time. I’ve made a KZread video about it, I’ll release it in a couple of days once I edit it.
I have been waiting for a video for a while...
I still don't know if you have to lubricate the cassette or not? I tought a clean cassette and lubricated chain is the way to go? Next. De derailleur and the bottom bracket. Can you use some spray lubricant?
Use shower caps to cover your rotor and brake caliper if u need to use a lube spray.
I use wd40 and a toilet brush and it works great. My drivetrain is immaculate
@hogdog567
4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Hardbattle but your toilet is disgusting.
@ericwhitchurch9779
4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I do as well aha
@ThePainterAL
4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Hardbattle same, take off chain, clean it with wd40, then brush it in water, dry and it’s clean as new
@knott4me561
4 жыл бұрын
Wd40 will strip everything from inside the rollers so if you do this method make sure you give it a lube straight away and wipe off excess . Chains do come with a good factory lube and whilst far too sticky to use on the outside it does a fantastic job on the rollers inside that you can't see .you'll be surprised how well it remix s in there .
@ThePainterAL
4 жыл бұрын
knott 4me I know, after brushing in water I wait about an hour to dry and then i lube it
Is it possible to over clean your chain and drivetrain, especially when using a degreaser?
@shanewilkinson9479
4 жыл бұрын
It’s totally possible to overdo degreaser. You want your lube worked into the inside of the rollers around the linking pins of the chain. No point in washing it all out each time. I only use degreaser sparingly on a rag or about once or twice a year to soak the chain.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing these tips :)
Jeez, how I miss Henry on GMBN.
Chain lube is best done the day before a ride. Very slow to set or cure the chain products unless they have high amounts of solvent.
I've seen this video at least 5 times I think, between this and GCN
what headset brand and type are those on your nukeproof? thanks
What's the aerosol used for? I'm new to biking
I just bought today a muc off chain lube What are the chances.
It is good to use car brake cleaner in spray can, to clean the chain and cassette?
#AskGMBN Do you think adding Nukeproof copper parts to a bright yellow bike is a good idea? Love the show! Thanks.
That one on the chain is so true
How did you mount that Garmin on your top tube? :-)
I like this wax chain lube ive got cos the whole drivetrain is pretty much silent and crud doesn't stick to it but the only problem it after washing the bike the chain gets surface rust on the links.
@rupedog
4 жыл бұрын
Wax lubes are very short lived...its designed to flake off...re-apply every 10 - 15 miles
Hi do u think its OK for me to use no more dirty bike cleaner on my bike 🤔
shouod you clean the brushes and the wire brush after?
what handlebar is that? how much rise? how much back sweep?
was distracted by the socks tbh whahha btw good tips
Is it bad to use muc off spray on your cassette and chain
Managing contamination is a pain. Today I was in between changing brake pads on one bike and degreasing the cassette on another bike. I moved about 4m away from the exposed brake pads sitting on the bench to spray some foam degreaser onto a rag. Unfortunately I didn't notice the draft in my shed that immediately carried some of the particles directly over to the brake pads like a flock of homing pigeons. I was like "Oh FFS, really?!"
Is it bad if i get foaming chain cleaner on my brake pads?
Hahaha Boom boom, nice reference 😂
We need the link to that Sam Pilgrim and Blake video with the grease please lol
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
Here it is Simon 👉 gmbn.eu/notclean 🤦♂️🤣
@marcdxn87
4 жыл бұрын
We need the grease one
@Simonsimps
4 жыл бұрын
@@gmbn Thank you very much, sorry for the late reply. I did not get notified that you had replied. Cheers.
@Simonsimps
4 жыл бұрын
@@gmbn Sorry but that's not the grease one but was still good cheers.
I use compressed air after a chain clean or the whole bike. Blow the water out and re lube
Use a drip style lube not spray i use a wax based lube
Had to watch this twice, those socks completely distracted me 😂
What did he used to spray to wipe on his frame and chain
Gmbn 🤛🏻
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
🤘👊
After watching your video I realized I have more common sense then I thought I had lol
What do I use to clean my electric bikes cassette ?
Watching Sam Pilgrim dumping tons of Vasoline on the headset is priceless.....ever watch him use a brick to put in a star nut? ha ha.
Oh, now I learn I should lube each roller on the chain once, not 2-3 times...*sigh*...so that's why I go through chain lube so quickly.
Wish it had an outside indicator for when full
What's the difference between normal washing-up liquid and them expensive bike wash products? And can I use them on all parts of the bike?
@wangdangdoodie
3 жыл бұрын
Washing up liquid contains salt - quite a lot of salt in fact. Salt breaks down oils but is extremely corrosive.
@thepub245
2 жыл бұрын
Washing up liquid contains salts, not good to use on metals or paint for obvious reasons.
Great video... but I've seen roadies have gone crazy for wax on their chains, would that work out for mtbs too ?
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, we have heard of people who still choose to heat up and wax chains. However, this used to be a more common back in the old days. People realised that there was no need to heat up the wax and melt it to the chain as it can be dissolved in a mild solvent. After this solution is applied the solvent evaporates, leaving just the wax-based ‘dry’ lubricant. It's a lot less hassle and saves having to split and rejoin the chain every time!
@mathewcampbell8479
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I wax after every 8 hours of riding, more frequently in wet conditions. It takes so little time to do, and despite what you hear about "solvent based waxes" - they don't work as advertised. Molten Speed Wax is the go.
I'm taking a totaly different approach: 1. Take a paper towel and remove excessive mud 2. Remove the chain and throw it in a jar 1/3 to 1/2 full of gasoiline 3. Shake the chain in the closed jar for 2-3 to remove the dirt even from the rollers 4. Hang the chain somewher to dry off 5. Start to heat up some wax 6. Clean the remaining drivetrain components with the remaining gasoiline 7. apply a drop of oil to the pulley wheel bearings/bushings 8. let the chain sit in the 105-110 °C hot wax for a minute 9. Pull it out and let it cool down on some paper towels 10. Mount the chain again That way you clean and lubricate the chain inbetween pins and rollers while slowing down new dirt from entering it. Wax doesn't attract dirt like oil and grease do, it repels it. That means your drivetrain stays cleaner longer and even touching your chain doesn't leave any black residue on your hands. Plus wax is one of the best lubricants for bike chains.
@Leviathandk
4 жыл бұрын
Please stop using gasoline. Its unhealthy as hell.
@diesistkeinname795
4 жыл бұрын
@@Leviathandk Obviously wearring gloves and doing it outside is madatory and there are special cleaning gasoilines sold that contain less harmfull aromates and stuff like that. You shouldn't touch the gasoiline with bare hands or breathe the fumes.
@mrsmartypants_1
4 жыл бұрын
dies ist kein Name: Old school way to clean chains and bearings was to use kerosene. FAR LESS DANGEROUS than gasoline and just as effective.
@jfrtbikgkdhjbeep9974
2 жыл бұрын
@@mrsmartypants_1 mystery oil
@heymanmotorsports49
2 жыл бұрын
I use terpentine
What do you mean by contamination of brakes? Is that just a way of saying that the brakes will become dirty?
How do you quickly clean your muddy tyres after a ride? Those tyres look brand new.
@rupedog
4 жыл бұрын
New sponsor, so they prob are
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
These tyres are new, but Henry always keeps his bike clean! 🧽✨
@ibarryuno4107
4 жыл бұрын
@GMBN. Nice that you’ve a new sponsor. But how do you keep those tyres clean after a Ride. Most of the time in de vids the tyres are clean.
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
Check these videos out 👇 gmbn.tech/cleanbike gmbn.eu/10minwash
vere good
Kinder bueno! ☹️ Christ Henry give a proper example of a Chocolate bar, I’m pretty sure it would be sacrilege to even class it as such a thing😂
When I washed my bike for the first time the breaks were squeaky so I sprayed the rotors with wd-40
Gmbn. Can you replace a Shimano derailer with a sram Derailer please answer
@eddieeaves4390
3 жыл бұрын
Surprised nobody has answered this yet. I would do it. Not all derailleur/shifters share the same incremental mesasurements when shifting, even if they’re both the same gear count. Best to stick what your drivetrain is. There was a link that someone, maybe Park Tools (maybe not) that showed what all they’ve found that can cross reference with each other.
Hands up if you use fairy liquid and some elbow grease!
Hooray Henry , or , ...... well , no , very good actually ......... pretty much reinforces what I did just this afternoon before tea , take the chain orff and clean the bejesus out of it and the rest of the drive train before lubing each roller and refitting the chain and riding slowly and gently on the pedals around my front yard in each of the 12 gears to evenly distribute the lube over the cassette , using a wax based lube myself as when dry it limits the build up of grit and grime a fair bit more than oil based lubes . My drive rain was covered in crap as I rode yesterday after our local area coped about 200 mm of rain over the previous 3 days , sand and mud were the alternating surfaces I rode on .
Hard bristle on the frame ... LMAO!
Is the muc off drivetrain cleaner safe on disc brakes
@eaglehunter1802
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
Blake is just straight savage
I remember have a Raleigh MTB , must of been 87 ish, it hardly ever had a wash , my dad would pump tyres till they were rock , bolts were done up as tight as they would go , once in a while he sprayed WD on the gearing and it never missed a beat that thing even after thousands of miles, marketing just wants us to spend a fortune on products to clean each part basically 🙈
Cleaned my cassette and chain with warm soapy water and a brush, lubed the chain & doing this has made the drivetrain mega noisy. You just cant win.
#askgmbn The bolt connecting my rear shock to the linkage came out during a ride. Its a horst linkage bike and so the pivot ended up smashing into the shock and crushing the valve. Is it possible to replace the outer upper section of the shock or do I have to spring for a new one?
Yep I cleaned my chain before I lubed but I used a toothbrush on my cassette lol
@MisterItchy
4 жыл бұрын
Old toothbrushes are great! I learned the hard way that they don't work well if you're trying to clean something with gasoline!
@rcs2003
4 жыл бұрын
perfect for the job
@gmbn
4 жыл бұрын
A tooth toothbrush and other household brushes are good but we prefer to use specialist brushes can help prevent scratching the paintwork and can make the job easier. A cassette cleaning brush can really help get in between the rings!
@thegeorgianmtbchannel9716
4 жыл бұрын
@@gmbn Where can I get one. And I got the toothbrush idea from Seth's bike hacks
God I always use way too much lube I need to stop
just what i wanted to know
how to clean the chain?
Using any brush will scratch your paint. Leave it for the drivetrain and use only microfiber towels and soapy water
Yeah, yeah, clean here, use that, don't do this.... Let's talk about those sox you're wearing! They're f***ing amazing! 😉
Okay these seem trivial, yet they haven’t talked about not lubing your chain when it’s wet.
Damn Bon Jovi got owned. That was gangster.
I remember my chain everytime I ride mx in poor weather........
There are a lot of crap chain 🔗 lube on the market. Always go back to a heavy oil 🛢
WD40..i drown my bike in it after a wash..including the calipers and discs. Its NOT a lubricant..it disperses any water left in the nooks and crannies. It dries after an hour. After that lube it up.
Crith Yewbank...
Ah, love the profs turn of phrase... quality scripting.
Oh my god Sam pilgrim I’m a fan
Sam would def lube a head set like that! LOL!!
what was he spraying on his matt black frame?
@lukeantrobus4775
3 жыл бұрын
looks like the muc off protect and shine product maybe
Lubrification is important! But who the hell uses the same brush to clean the bike and drivetrain?