As prestigious as Patek Philippe is, I think A. Lange & Söhne Datograph should be on the list because that’s what prompted PP to embark on their own chronograph movement.

@tomw485

4 ай бұрын

The Datograph is my grail watch. Most beautiful Chronograph in existence.

I can't imagine why you chose the Daytona over Zenith. As the head of Zenith once said ¨who ever timed any sporting event to 1/8th second¨ . The El Primero HAS to be on this list.

@lesgarten

4 ай бұрын

The El Primero is on the list, you must have missed it... It's called a Pre-2000 Daytona ;-)

@robertposteschild2353

4 ай бұрын

Imagine timing any sports event with a mechanical watch

@dunderhay9169

4 ай бұрын

@@lesgarten Good point, but am I correct in believing they reduced the beat rate for use in the Daytona?

@lesgarten

4 ай бұрын

Didn't know about that?

@goranlovrinovic6713

4 ай бұрын

S 3.i mWw.dxe​m@@lesgarten

Glad Breitling got some love. A lot of talk about the slide rule… no mention of the fact that all 5 of these watches have a start-stop at 2 and a reset at 4 because Breitling invented it. And then went on to produce (with partners) the first automatic chronograph.

Hot take- El Primero is the gold standard

@israelcruz4946

4 ай бұрын

Copy that!

The Breitling Navitimer is absolutely beautiful and my favorite of any chronograph. Excellent video.

@myyord7963

4 ай бұрын

So true, it's unmatched

Of course the ultimate chronograph must be the Zenith El Primero. Hyping the Datona without mentioning that it is a de-rated El Primero is a serious sin.

A Zenith El Primero would complete the list IMHO.

@dperreno

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. Striking Tenths is a real innovation on an outstanding heritage movement.

LOVE this video. I was working during Covid, and would watch this channel during my breaks to relax. That’s how I got into watches. This content reminds me of why I love watches.

Another thumbs up for the Valjoux 7750 movement and all chronographs based on it. The chronographs most watch enthusiasts can afford actually.

@Madmanmarque

4 ай бұрын

My second "luxury" watch was a Navitimer II in 1995 with a 7750. Price... $1,800. Those were the days. I still have that watch.

The omission of the El Primero, the first automatic chronograph with its famous story, is surely a mistake. The Daytona is there. Of course. But that had to borrow the Zenith movement. Go figure 🤷‍♂️

@emexokezie7796

4 ай бұрын

In borrowing or modifying the Zenith outpost, Rolex single handedly saved Zenith from total disappearing acts! Remember that...Zenith actually owes its current existence to Rolex who bought their mvmnts when the quartz era destroyed them! Go reconfigure!

@davidb5720

4 ай бұрын

@@emexokezie7796 why so aggro? Do you own a Daytona ? 😂 For the record, I’m a fan of both brands and watches. But, when Rolex did that, nobody actually wanted to buy their Daytona watches. Zenith got themselves out of the mire by safeguarding the ability to build the El Primero. It’s only in the last 7 years or do that the Daytona has become the darling of the watch industry. So, I’ll politely refuse your request to go reconfigure

@emexokezie7796

4 ай бұрын

@@davidb5720 honestly, to answer that question is quite belittling... I am not here to argue with you about wrist furniture, I'm here to correct your inherent slight of ignorance.

@davidb5720

4 ай бұрын

I think you’ll find the slight of ignorance is on your part. I wasn’t arguing with anyone, merely pointing out the fact that one of the most significant chronographs in history was missing from this, fairly pointless to be fair, list. You are merely proving a point why the KZread comments section is generally to be avoided

that piece of dust dropping on the macro shot at 1:49 drove me nuts

I was never of the Navitimer until I had it on my wrist. The best chronograph for me.

el primero instead of the daytona and you are golden.

@tomw485

4 ай бұрын

Leave the Daytona. Take out that stupid Grand Seiko or even the Breitling for the El Primero.

@coolst0rybruh

4 ай бұрын

@@tomw485 the El primero and the Daytona are the same watches that's the reason i said what I said. I don't care about the breitling either but at least the Seiko is innovative.

@tomw485

4 ай бұрын

@@coolst0rybruh No the El Primero and Daytona are not at all the same watch. Even when Rolex was sourcing Zenith calibers they were detuning the frequency from 36,000 BPH to 28,000 and making other significant mods. Cases, dials and bracelets were quite different as well. Very distinctly different watches. Plus in the 1980’s and before Rolex used a Valjoux 72 for the Daytona and in the early 2000’s to now they went entirely in house. I mean if you take the current El Primero Chronomaster Original with the new striking 10th movement and the current Daytona they’re as distinctly different as 2 chronographs can be. So their one connection is a heavily modified movement for 10 of 60 years of the Daytona’s existence. You realize the Patek chronograph and the original speedmaster caliber 321 (and now the re-release 321 “Ed White”) used the exact same Lemania base movement. Patek of course dressed it up a bunch with hand finishing swapping of parts, but if you’re going to call the El Primero and Daytona the same watch by that logic you might as well call the Speedmaster Professional and Patek the same watch since they’re connected in nearly the exact same way. No one does that though because sharing a base movement for a fraction of their history does not make 2 watches at all the same thing. No one says the McLaren F1 is the same as a BMW because it used a BMW engine.

I do really like the Speedmaster and will have to get one someday. The one I chose to already buy was the Navitimer, though with the traditional face. To me it’s a stunning watch and yes, I do actually know how to use it correctly.

Fun fact, there IS a Speedmaster with an acrylic crystal on top and sapphire on the caseback. I don't have the reference on hand, but it was produced back in the mid 1990's. You're welcome.

@SeeThePotential

4 ай бұрын

3592.50 is the reference, which was the 25th anniversary released in 1994.

@Stevel024

4 ай бұрын

Ref 3572.50 also has hesalite crystal with sapphire display back

@tpcam78

4 ай бұрын

He means you can’t buy a new one.

I've never seen a real Navitimer really close up before. As such, is it standard for the chronograph seconds hand to have such even and rough paint on it? Your excellent and really high resolution video really shows how unevenly rough it is compared to the rest of the dial and overall finish which looks very clean and smooth. And, I agree with some of the others.. the Zenith El Primero should have made a spot on this list.

There is one heavy hitter missing on your list Andrew. Either Double or Tripple Split Chronograph by A. Lange & Söhne

Dropped the ball on this one Andrew by excluding Zenith and including the Daytona, a watch they couldn't give away. A dial so unbalanced its a joke.

@joeygemal5504

4 ай бұрын

Is that why you can’t get one? Lol say something smart next time

🔥🔥🔥🔥 awesome video

Given that Rolex trusted Zenith to provide the El Primero movement for years it’s a wonder how you omitted the Chronomaster tbh…

Zenith El Primero - has to be there !

El primero and 7750 off course...

My favorite is the Vacheron Constantin Overseas Panda Chrono. Gorgeous dial and the watch is remarkably light and comfortable when worn on the rubber strap.

Andrew starting this list with a Grand Seiko is the least surprising move ever! Love the channel (and yours!) and love what you bring to it... keep up the great work!

@tomw485

4 ай бұрын

It was an exceedingly dumb move considering what he left off.

Zenith !

Can you do 5 best perpeptual calendar or annual calendar?

Kudos for the quality of photography (and as ever the script). Great job

Any views on the new Tag Heuer Carrera 39mm glass box? That looks cracking

Nice lead off. Was NOT expecting to see GS or Seiko and i AM a fan. Now on th hunt for an 8L55 1968 Recreation.

That Breitling Navitimer is a thing of Beauty, the color and proportions are great. It would be much nicer if they bring back the chronograph hand counter balance again. It gives the over all design a more distinct look. Great Video as always.

@garyboyle695

4 ай бұрын

Just a pity the finishing on the second's hand is shocking.

@jimmy7494

4 ай бұрын

The Navitimer is really growing on me lately!

@attila2246

4 ай бұрын

@@garyboyle695it is impossible to notice without a 10x loupe

I finally got a Speedmaster. For years, I just didn't get the fascination others had with this time-piece, but I think watch collecting is different for everyone, and I had to circumnavigate a lot of different watches to to come around to understanding why this watch is so beloved. Mine is a 1969 pre-moon example with a tropical dial. I love it so much and have almost forgotten my other pieces except when I know I will be roughing it a bit. I don't treat it like a museum piece by any means, but don't wear it when working out, doing yard work, etc. That said, this is a tool watch and the chrono gets a lot of use daily. The movement is incredibly accurate and not just "for it's age". The dial is extremely legible and so are the sub-dials. I'm in my early 50s so my eyes aren't great, and this watch is still extremely legible even with its faded hands and dial. I have the original stretch bracelet, but wear it on a modern bracelet which fits the watch perfectly. How wild is that? The watch has made little external change that a modern bracelet fits a 1969 model!! I sometimes ponder getting the sapphire model to have both and to see the movement as discussed here. Thanks for the wonderful video as always.

Did anyone else notice the "chunk" missing out of the brake leaver (?) on the Patek @ around 8:49 min. Im sure that part didnt leave the bench in the Vallée de Joux like that, a few too many eggs being timed with this example i think.

As an avid Omega fan the GS is a stunning piece

I've been perplexed as to the Daytona's popularity and now it's been cleared up. Andrew, if you need help dropping Omega a message, I'll gladly send it on your behalf. They're very good at responding to their customers !! one of the best.

Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Compressor Chronograph and the Zenith el Primero are real gems and should be in this list.

I would include Zenith, and make it a 6 watch list. Greetings from MX.

I love the style and content of this video. It adds to my background knowledge of watches and provides a nuanced assessment of some popular chronographs, for instance the GS tentograph.

The El Primero movement was the first automatic (chronometer) movement to run at 10 beats per second. The Navitimer uses an ETA movement as do countless other chronos. Yes that’s a decent movement and it’s got a slide rule, but is it better than say a Blancpain Leman? That’s a fly-back chrono designed by Piguet

I think the Breguet Type XX - XXI - XXII with the flyback feature should have made this list.

@tomw485

4 ай бұрын

The Type XXI Flyback is very cool. You know Zenith makes an El Primero pilot’s watch with a flyback too.

I’ve actually never seen a Grand Seiko Chronograph. Whenever I see them it’s always the spring drive model. The dials are beautiful on those G.S. When are we gonna get the “Grand Casio?” or Grand Citizen? LOL

IWC Pilot's Chronograph 41. Green Dial. Put it on the list.

a nice vintage Carrera or a reissue or even the glassbox would be nice here, one of the original

Review some Alpine watches pls!

Watching from Graham O Sullivan's, Artane roundabout, Dublin, with my beautiful 116518.

Blancpain 2185, using a vertical clush and with a hight of only 10.5 mm one of the thinnest automatic chronographs.

hey why you did not include CARL F. BUCHERER Manero Flyback chronograph Steel & Black DLC new watch its amazing!!!

The Grand Seiko, you got right. I can live without the others.

I also miss the El Primero in your List. Especially because the daytona uses their movements until 2000. For me it is really hard to decide witch one i should get.

The Speedmaster takes the 1st price in my opinion, especially the 3261.

The Omega Speedmaster every time, the Patek is too expensive, the Rolex is too flashy. I have two chronographs, a Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope and a Baltic Bi-compax with a Seagull movement but if I was to buy another it would be the Omega. Great video!🙂

What's your take on many complaints from Brietling B01 navitimer users regarding the unreliability of the new B01 movement?

@attila2246

4 ай бұрын

What unreliability? I’ve had one for 2 years with no issues.

I bought a mechanical chronograph with a date subdial at 12 and moon phase at six on a vintage inspired dial that actually looks pretty good. Even the bad brand name isn't that bad. It's small (fortunately there's no room on the dial) and in a nice cursive at least. I got it for under 200 bucks. Less than 200 dollars. < 200! It boggles the mind. I would still pay 40 or 50 times that for a chronograph with a properly finished movement.

Umm, Breguet XX (You HAVE to honour Lemania). Zenith? AND THE BEST: Lange!?!

The Lange Odysseus Chronograph does it for me - I'll never be able to afford one unfortunately.

A big one is missing here...

I mean the joke about the Railmaster was just sat there waiting....

i got the Zeppelin LZ126 and im after the hard to get timex marlin on bracelet.

No zenith?

Do not forget the Glashutte Original Senator Chronograph.

Surely you can find room for Zenith in this list! 😅

Very interesting! Thank you! Love you content! So economical too, No new filming needed; simply fall back on prerecorded footage. Win win all round! 😁👍

Been browsing chronographs. At the moment I plan on a Studio Underd0g goofy Panda when they reissue stock next month. Otherwise I would like a Zenith but need to save up. Or a Daytona if I sell my kidneys.

Zenith, tag heuser glasbox chronograph

*Look at the right sub dial hand shuttering, before it snaps into place! **10:53*

What happened to El Primero?

The finishing on the Breitlings seconds hand is shocking, especially the underside of it.

@LinusWatches

4 ай бұрын

You medan shocking bad or good?

Agree with all of these being great chronographs however you could have gone top seven, one for each day of the week, and added the Zenith and my personal favorite the DatoGraph. Keep up the great work and thanks for the watch entertainment.

Thank you for mentioning Andy Green.

IMH the Speedy comes first. And I would add the IWC Portugieser Chronograph IW371605 to this list.

Lange 1815

Speedmaster, Daytona, Navitimer, El Primero would me by pics. Cant decide on the 5th one

@meneurb

4 ай бұрын

Lange

Where's Zenith El Primero from that list, Andew?

My choice would probably be A.Lange&Sohne Triple Split

The big omission in this piece is the automotive chronograph. It could be argued that the Daytona covers the space, but does it really, in the same way as say TAG-Heuer has or Longines given their respective long and deep associations with motorsport.

@GoingSidewards

4 ай бұрын

Graham Hill and Jim Clark both wore Navitimers, and the speedmaster was a staple at F1/sportscar racing from the 50s-70s… so you could say they have it covered. 😊

No love for Tag Formula 1... It'll have to do till I can get a Daytona with the ice blue dial.

Breguet Type XXI

Imsure there are better . But my grail is the speedie

Lang & Heyne Albert

El Primero & Tag Heuer Monoco, that's all that needs to be said.

A Lange Sohne datograph is in my top 5 IMO...

All great chronographs. I’m a bit odd,because I like the AP Code 11.59. Never be able to afford it,but love it. The Speedmaster is also something I would love. Great show.

I totally agree that the Navitimer doesn't get enough love I absolutely adore my Navitimer Heritage and will never sell it. I for the life of me can't understand why the Zenith El Primero wasn't included in this list. After all without it the Daytona wouldn't even exist..Surely it deserves to be up at the top of the list.....

@emexokezie7796

4 ай бұрын

A very untrue statement...Rolex easily could have used an other secondary movt...stop hating!

@tomw485

4 ай бұрын

@@emexokezie7796He’s not hating for wanting Zenith on the list. It’s incredibly silly to leave it off frankly. But to say that the Daytona wouldn’t exist without Zenith is false though. Prior to Zenith the Daytona had a Valjoux 72 movement. But Zenith made their first automatic chronos. And there’s a reason Rolex chose Zenith as their movement supplier. They made the best automatic chronograph movements period.

I think a Zenith or A. Lange should make the top 5.

The Navitimer rules. That B01 movement would rival any of these. “Federico Talks Watches” agrees.

No Zenith? Certainly it’s better than Breitling.

@mitchmitchell9588

4 ай бұрын

100 percent.

@bobbressi5414

4 ай бұрын

Better is a subjective term

@SinnMaster

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 no

@chrisfotinos880

4 ай бұрын

I agree about the Zenith

@olgerjovani8653

4 ай бұрын

Zenith is e even better than Rolex best chronographs

I can believe it, no Zenith. Maybe the movement El Primero is not the most efficient and service-friendly, but it was ‘the only’ chronograph after the quartz crisis, it was used by Rolex and others while they’re creating their own chronograph movements. It’s one of the few allowing a 1/10 second precision. It has more history that all of the others together and it’s used nowadays in the new Zenith watches (improved movement with modern changes, but based on e original).

@tomw485

4 ай бұрын

Yeah they screwed the pooch leaving out the El Primero. I question if there’s some agenda here especially adding in the Grand Seiko Chronograph. That’s absurd.

“Rocketdyne or Cosworth……..” Very clever 😂

The Navitimer is the King of Chronographs. It's the Submariner of the Chronograph world. Most recognisable and iconic, even if it's not necessarily the best.

They are great. However, I would take a Zenith Chronomaster over any of the watches on that list. 🤷‍♂️.

Omega for sure!

I nod the Grand Seiko, the speedy however... if it wasn't for the uber chewed up moon story, and a decent design it is an average watch at best. The crown is not exposed enough to allow for comfortable winding and the crown teeth are kind of sharp. Navitimer is killed by the triangular indexes (in cross section) which make it a pain to read time as light reflects all over, there's a 100 better version of the navitimer. Not to mention the new logo is a total miss. Can't comment on Patek since I never laid a hand on one. And a dimond equiped Daytona? I bet it works great as a "mug and kill me" beacon as you pass the nearest street corner.

For me its the Navi followed by speedy

The breitling navitimer is beautiful and underrated. I'm sorry that Grand Seiko is still ugly. Zenith over Grand Seiko

This is the kind of videos I miss from this channel 👍

For some reason the speed master looks the best

Andrew, another great video, loved the shoutout to my Speedy - YOU sir, are cooler than Santa's patio!

Zenith?

I am calling out Andrew.. Andrew is a solid space nerd. Hey Andrew: "SCE to Aux!!" 🤣

Maybe not the best but the Zenith defy 21 1/100 chrono deserves a spot on that list

Zenith defy 21 is my fav…1/100 second is nuts