Great Review, Thanks ! FYI - I purchased the "5.11 Tactical Rush Tier System" on amazon. Consists of a set of 4 buckle straps you can use to attach the MOAB bags, for example. I also use them as compression straps on my Rush24.. makes a HUGE difference in comfort and useability.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I didn't know the straps were available by themselves. I will add a link in the description today. Those straps are a huge benefit and I couldn't have used this bag as long as I did without them. Thanks again!

@davidingram3281

7 жыл бұрын

No problem.. I've had my Rush 24 for only two months, purchased for an Adirondack adventure - so I really put it through its paces in a short period... though I must say I hope my pack never encounters bear-cub claws. That must have made for a helluvagood story. My pack is still very stiff, but even so - I would NOT have been happy with mine without some type of compression system. Must say that I smiled to hear your same experience. My Rush24 is now my EDC bag and glad to hear it will last another (at least) year or two. Cheers !

@FWild-eb1rd

6 жыл бұрын

David Ingram does it work as compression straps? Maybe I want to put a ground roll beyond the bottom there will be a little tent or sleeping bag

Select 1.5x speed and enjoy. Great review and analysis. Thanks!

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I'm glad the information was useful for you.

@kan-zee

Жыл бұрын

LMAO 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

@Divici02623

Жыл бұрын

Wow that’s useful. It’s still pretty good in 1.75x and even 2.0x believe it or not. Perfect for those long videos that you really want to watch but don’t want to sit through

Bonus: You can fit 48 cans of beer in this bag. I know this, because I don't have a car, but do have a liquor wholesaler within hiking distance. The first case, you put in whole. The second case, you break up into two six-packs and 12 single cans. Theoretically you could carry a third (and maybe a fourth) case in your hands... but I'd hate doing a two-mile hike with that much load.

I appreciate your honesty . I have been doing a lot of research about this bag, and you are the first to actually have negative comments about it. Thank you for the post.

I just pulled the trigger on this bag after watching and reading other reviews. I appreciate your honesty and straight forward explanation of what you have put your rush 24 through. I also appreciate the link to the tier system strap kit. I may need it as you did. Thanks for sharing.

This is the first review i found about this bag by someone who really used it and understand its features pros and cons. Extremely helpfull! I subbed

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm glad this was useful for you. And thank you for taking the time to watch! I appreciate it.

@rahuldoes

5 жыл бұрын

#MeToo

2x speed FTW! Good review.

@myoman1977

3 жыл бұрын

I did the same

This is probably the most comprehensive review of this bag or any other bag I've ever seen or read. Thanks for this video. I've subscribed too!

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words! I appreciate you taking the time to watch, and thanks for subscribing!

Very thorough and well thought out review. I'm a fan of the 5.11 'Rush' series, but good to see the flaws that only show up after extended use.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

The incredible durability made me a fan too. I carried the MOAB 6 for almost a year and the MOAB 10 for maybe 6 months before I decided to buy the rush 24, and they are both also in nearly perfect condition. I also own the Triad, but I've barely used it. That one ended up packed with emergency items and might someday serve the roll of a bug out bag (let's hope not, but I do believe in being prepared).... Thank you for the kind words and thanks for taking the time to watch! I appreciate it.

Have the bag. Had the straps but didn’t think to use them. Put them on and it makes a huge difference. Great tip. Thanks.

I wish I had seen this before I bought the rush24! Had you on 2.0 speed and I did enjoy the deeper analysis very much. Thanks!

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! This bag is indestructible. You won't be disappointed with the durability... Pick up a set of the straps to use as compression straps and that will help a lot. Now and then I think that the big pocket in the front (the one I mentioned is interfered with by the bottom pocket in the inside compartment) should have had a piece of plastic like the water bladder compartment has. That might be a good idea for a modification for yours when it starts to soften up.

Great review and appreciate the tip on those straps as this bag begins to break in! Since you made this video, they’ve come out with a revised version with a concealed carry pocket and a new “python” color, which I got. It really is a nice backpack.

Very nice review, I've had my Rush 24 about a year and it's still awesome - I do agree about some of the points like the front organisation if the material goes soft, I'll be buying those tactical rush tier system compression straps for future wear. It is pretty much indestructible and a great carry bag, it's been with me almost every day (pre-lockdown), to work and to the gym, on holiday, amazing as a carry-on overhead luggage bag and trekking on holiday

Came here to learn about the bag and ended up learning that I could actually watch youtube at different fast forward speeds! Thanks for the info on the bag!

Spot on review. I've had my Rush 24 with me for a while now and I think your analysis is very accurate. I've used it as my sole backpacking bag across 20+ countries and when carrying heavier loads (20kg+), I've found myself needing a waist belt, which I ended up purchasing online. The compression straps are useless, and I look forward to using the moab straps I ordered after seeing your video. I'm a huge fan of the durability and quality of the bag - it's one of the only pieces of kit I have which I know won't fail. The bag overall is rugged, durable and in a black colourway, has a relatively subdued but tough look. One of my best purchases, dollar for dollar.

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

I did this video over a year ago and I mentioned that I planned to replace this bag. I still haven't replaced it. It's just too good of gear to give up ;)

Well, sometimes you have to take the good with the bad, but overall, it seem that you are happy with this bag. Most users might not even notice the negatives that you pointed out, but it is definitely durable. Thanks for the review as always.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! And just by the way: Thanks for turning me on to that Yukon Outfitters tarp. I've carried it out with me a few times. I haven't had the good timing of a rainstorm yet, but as soon as I have it in wind and rain, I'll have some thoughts on that.

Getting those extra straps seems like a great idea. I've got my 24 2.0 on order and will also now order the extra straps.

Great long term review. I’ve been carrying the same 24 bag for several years, mostly loaded with my work stuff (basically field technician: laptop, multimeters, small tools, iPad, etc) and I can totally relate with the broken-in floppiness. I hadn’t thought of additional compression straps, but I’ve ordered them now.

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

Those straps are the only reason I've been able to keep using this bag. In the video, I said I was about to replace the bag. I still haven't done it. Love/Hate ;)

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

The straps help a lot. I think you'll end up appreciating them quite a bit.

Excellent review. Thanks for the tip on the compression straps. Just ordered a pair. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

@betweenfiveandseven

5 жыл бұрын

You'll appreciate having those straps. .. Merry Christmas to you too!

Very good review! Everybody talks about whats great, but it´s the bad that are interesting.

Thank you! I have had my Rush24 for about 6-7 months now, and couldn't quite put my finger on what what's making me so crazy about it. I refer to it as "The Old Man" as it has gotten saggy like we all do as we get old. I carry a lot of little things, and it looks like a pot belly stove on my back. I found they sell the straps now without having to buy a MOAB bag, so I may try some of those before I abandon the bag altogether. Wish I had seen this review before I got my 24.

Thank you for this review. Best review I seen. Objective. Pros and Cons + you shared the use over time.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found this useful! Thanks for watching!

What a great idea using the mobile attachment straps as compressions straps. Excellent review!

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

thank you! And thank you for taking the time to watch!

I have used my 24 bag for 4 hard years and still looks good. I too have added straps for compression.

Loved the review. Far better than all the rest that just bought the pack. None of them have field tested like yourself. I bought this pack today (sandstone) to help me hunt feral pigs and wild deer in Australia. As well as buying the pack i also bought that tier system with extra straps due to your appraisal and put them on. Unlike you i might never use the pack enough for the pack to get 'soggy' enough to notice, but with the extra extension straps it will always hold it' s backbone. Thanks heaps cobber. The best review of all and I watched them all. I'll have a Jack and coke now. Onya.

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! ... And just a note: I still haven't replaced this bag. Even considering the sagging that drives me crazy, I haven't found anything I think is a worthy replacement yet. It will serve you well.

I have been eyeballing the Rush 24 backpack for over a year now. I finally decided to buy it, it was already in my basket at the online store but I decided to sleep on it and check more videos. Boy, am I glad I came across your video! I have read reviews and watched other videos before and I had no doubt in my mind that this bag is very well built. I even got over the lack of proper contraption straps (which was also repeatedly mentioned in reviews). However, the very reason I became interested in the Rush 24 was the front admin pouch which looked so well designed and organized, perfect for the many small things I carry, so I thought. Non of the reviews mentioned the concerns you did, probably because most reviewers didn't break in the bag beforehand. Thank you very much for this review, you have probably saved me a huge disappointment. And so my search continues...

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I'm not hoping to cost 5.11 any sales on this bag, but I really would like to see them stiffen that admin pouch with a plastic sheet like they use in the water bladder pouch. It drives me crazy. I've been carrying a bag with zero admin pouch for a few months now and using a couple of separate organizer pouches and stuff sacks with it. While the simplicity has been nice, I'm not sure it's exactly what I want either. I'm finding myself on Maxpedition and Tru-Specs websites pretty often lately ;)

Hello there. My name is Duc - a backpack fanatic. I'm not a professional bag producer, but I'm working on some new designs. I've tried 5.11, Mystery ranch, Gregory, and everything in between. From my few years of experience with them, I've finally compiled a list of problems I'd like to resolve and benefits I'd keep. I've finished the designing stage. Once this whole pandemic thing is over, I'll start the first run, but I'll lauch just one of the lines. I have a prototype for myself and so far so good. But since I'm Asian, my physique might be a little bit different. I'd like to ask for reviews from different people so I can finalize something hopefully a one-size-fits-all solution. I'll keep you posted when I got everything ready. Cheers, From Vietnam, with love!

@ferdinandlundehelhetsterap3594

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a great plan! I'll be looking for you bag when it comes out, I'm hooked on bags for some reason, don't know why though :p

Best review I’ve seen of this bag. Very objective, covering the pros and cons. Thanks for posting

@betweenfiveandseven

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@Banthah

4 жыл бұрын

@@betweenfiveandseven Yep. I went out and bought one. Also got the compression straps for the bottom, on your recommendation, and like you say they are very much needed. By the way, the Condor Battle Belt, with a 1.5 inch tactical belt inside it, works great as a hip support belt. It fits perfectly, and takes so much of the weight off the shoulders, transforming this in to a much more comfortable backpack...

Hi Dude, I have have a rush 24, I carried for a year bloody awesome bit of kit. I carried it to work and around the world with my job can't fault it. yes it softens up but packed correctly its still awesome. I do however agree with you that it needs some lower compression straps of which I have added but wow what a bag I have now got the Rush 12 as an everyday bag and its as awesome in build quality and ability. Been doing this shit since 82 way before it become fashionable and in my opinion this Rush 24 Rocks cheers for the review

Very nice these real world review after 18 months

Nice job showing the details of the bag and how you use it. I would agree that 5.11 should include the Tier System straps with all Rush bags as they do with the MOAB. That seemed to be the bulk of your "Hate" side of your relationship. You really harped on that point and implied that the only way to get the straps was to buy a MOAB when in reality for $15 Amazon will put a set of 4 on your front porch in 2 days. I was also surprised to hear your concern about the front administrative pouch, is it much different from the MOAB 10? I ask because I have both a MOAB 10 and 6 as well as a Rush 12 and those pockets work well for a variety of items both large and small.

Thank you for the extended use details.

The plastic plate in my 12 disintegrated, just got brittle and went to pieces. I keep a space blanket and a 200 litre bin liner there, it's stiff enough for the smaller bag.

I've had mine for maybe 12 years and I agree completely with every point here. The front org really is the weak point, it tries to be everything to all people. EXTREMELY durable. Only when I overloaded it did the yoke tear, but that was only the "trim" layer of nylon. The strap was fine. Then sone chemicals and weight weakened a lower seam. I repaired that. I might just keep using it, although I like the updated features of the 2.0

I got about 14 years out of mine ❤ can't complain, probably best all-around backpack I've ever had. Time for a new one maybe

511 offers a lifetime warranty on the bag all you have to do is contact customer service on the website.they should take care of the stitch that came loose.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Nice. I hadn't considered the warranty. Thanks!

Excellent review, man !

@betweenfiveandseven

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad this video was useful for you.

So like I don’t know what color I should get to blend in really well I live in the eastern shore

What bag do you now carry? I didn’t see a video on your channel maybe you can make a new video with your current EDC bag. I am having same issue I just find the bag to be too for my daily needs but great for weekends away. I don’t want the rush 12 bc like you said the organization in the im rush series is terrible. Thanks for the review

Thank you for the detailed review!

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thank you for taking the time to watch!

hey man great vid im a hobo thats in the process of regearing im the same way i got a 50 liter tactical world famous outdoor sports is the name of it and i also grab by right strap it lasted a month im no longer buying packs from walmart or big 5 ive been through 5 packs in 2 -1/5 years of hoboing im down to a choise between 5.11 or maxpidition so youre honest thoughts makes me lean hard to the 5.11 so thanks dude

One question, does the inside of the bag(pvc like material) started to peal off after a long use?

Are you still using this bag? What about doing a video on what you currently carry?

Going on 13 + years with mine..can’t remember when I actually bought it but a pic shows I had it in late 2007. 7 different countries, 39 states, multiple camping trips , multiple outings and of course the mule of my work tote. I broke a buckle a few years back but 5.11 immediately sent me a new one. It is a perfect bag for my needs but I do hate that my pens don’t stay in their slots.

@xdeadyoungx

2 жыл бұрын

Cool story .. What pack would you replace it with if you have to?

I've been trying to find a pack I really like with organization I need for my my gear. I really want a hip belt 45L capacity with side pouches for a GI style water bottles. The best I've found for organization has sadly been the Outdoors Quest pack sold at Walmart, but it's capacity is around 30L. It's almost perfect accept for I want more capacity, a hip belt, a hatchet loop, and some bottom straps for a blanket roll. Still searching, but I've not found a perfect pack.

@greekveteran2715

6 жыл бұрын

1st: TASMANIAN TIGER BACKPACK TROOPER PACK KHAKI - 2nd: WISPORT RACCOON 45L RUCKSACK . There are other choises as well,but these 2 sound like what you are looiking for

@aHigherPower

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks I'll them out.

In my rush 24 there was an explosion of peper spray..i just wipe it afther 30 min and that is it

Just came out with Rush 24, 2.0 You should review it too.

Great review! I getting a rush 24 + tier system and rum and coke!

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

Excellent Choice!

Any new updates?

good review thanks

Well, I have a friend that spends the last 20 years and lots of money to look for a bag that he loves.. it’s always been a love hate relationship with all his bags..

i have no experience with 5.11 just maxpedition, i'm thinking of getting the 72 do you think i would run into the same problems you experienced? and to let you know what i'm going to use it for i'm joining the marine corps in a few months and thinking about getting it for pretty much anything. love this review it was so well done and detailed!

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I think the 72 will soften up eventually just like the 24 did for me. The front organization is a little bit different and the main compartment pockets are also different on the 72 (I don't own the 72 but I've looked at it several times in the local Sportsman's Warehouse). First, it has a hip belt, so you don't have to worry about that. Next, the compression straps on the 72 are placed different and are lower on the bag. I think that would be better than the 24, but I still think a set of the "tactical tier system" straps (the MOAB bag straps) would be beneficial to use as compression straps on such a large bag. Another viewer pointed out that the straps can be purchased by themselves and there is a link in the description to where to get them on amazon. The 5.11 Rush bags and the MOAB bags are incredibly durable. They'll take any abuse you can put them through and then some. I hope that helps! Thanks for watching!

@evilcism

7 жыл бұрын

Axyoes dont get a bag, they issue you one lol

@minecraftmanyak

7 жыл бұрын

will i be able to use it whenever though?

I got this bag 5.11 24 rush and broke a stitch the 3rd time carrying it with only 3 bottles of gatorade in it. A handle stich

@betweenfiveandseven

4 жыл бұрын

That's really bad luck. .. I ended up using a curved needle and fixing mine myself, but several people in these comments mentioned 511 has a good warranty and good customer service. It might be worth sending them a picture.

After this backpack got famous and they made lot of money,they droped the quality down to make more money,since it will still sell like crazy.. Another problem with this backpack,is that if you load it up with stuff and become heavy,it doesn't have a waist belt to support it. I'm looking for similar,around 25-35 litters backpack,with a waist strap but most of all It has to be comfortable when its loaded.Does anyone know of a pack like this? Thanks in advance

Every high end tactical bag I've owned have gone soft. I just place my small items in lightweight cube bags. I prefer the broken in bag rather than a boxy brick on my back.

So what pack DO you like that might be comparable to the 24? I mean, given that many of these types of bags are made of more or less the same stuff (I think), I would imagine they'd all become a bit flimsy over time.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know yet. I have an MSM Adapt Pack on order from MilspecMonkey. That one looks promising. I won't be able to give that one a long term use review until I've used it for a few months.

@Geotubest

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers. Today I placed orders for the R72 and the R12. I figured the R12 would be good for EDC, and the R72 for my travel ( 3 day+) needs. I suppose they might get a bit flimsy over time, but I don't see many other options out there at this particular time. I also have a nice purpose built hiking backpack for more serious trekking. Looking forward to your future reviews.

Is there something that can be done against saggyness?

Sir... To fix the "organizer" just cut a piece of plastic (like from a "5 liters water container" or something like that) than "glue and stitch it in place" on the back of the panel (do it the right size to "keep the bag distended"); problem solved.

JUST got mine..I love/hate it =P Really just dislike one thing...so far 40 OZ bottle+nesting cup fits in mine NP (side pouch) I have the new version, No idea what has changed

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

That must be one of the changes. My 40 oz Kleen Kanteen doesn't come close to fitting a side pocket.

do the Moab straps interfere with attaching MOLLE pouches to those sides?

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

No. They leave the webbing open. there are two plastic "hooks" (for lack of a better word) that attach to the webbing, but they don't fill it. On the front, the buckes would interfere, but the sides not really at all. I hope that helps!

@intotheforge3954

7 жыл бұрын

Essential Gear & Useful Skills sure does I'm looking for a new basic trail bag since my fieldline knock off of the rush 72 was stolen I loved it except for it was a little to big, more bag more stuff type of problem

How did you put those extra attachment buckles on?

@betweenfiveandseven

5 жыл бұрын

They are slotted to fit MOLLE.

The size is correct for a Day Pack in the wilderness ! Remember "The Ten Essentials" by the Seattle Mountaineers. A Day Pack will keep you safe overnight and bring you home the next day. My Go Bag/Get Home Bag is the Maxpedition Laptop Backpack bag that fits a 17" or smaller laptop. And the large inside pockets fit NIJ Level IIIA Backpack Armor and give more padding to the laptop. tjl

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

This Rush 24 has been perfect for overnighters and 2 night out trips. The webbing on the bottom allowing me to strap my bedroll to the bottom of the pack means most of my shelter items aren't taking up space inside the bag so I can carry more food and an extra pair of socks and maybe my rain gear just in case. Over all, this bag has served me very well. While using it as a day to day bag and using it to carry some of the things I need to do business, it hasn't excelled so much with the organization pocket in the front not being too great after it breaks in. I'd still recommend this one... And I'm still looking for waht I'm replacing it with. I'll check out that maxpedition you mentioned. Thanks!

What straps do you recommend for the underside of the bag?

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Mine are made by The Para-cord Guy and I bought them from The Canteen Shop which as of this week is now known as Lost Wild Outdoors. They are closed until 2/17/2017 while they move their website to the new domain www.lostwildoutdoors.com/ . Check them out when they are back online. One of my absolute favorite outdoor gear/bushcraft stuff vendors. Rob is a great guy & customer service is top notch.

Firstly, I love that Jerusalem patch you go on there. Nice! Second, I used to have one of those - same color and everything. For the most part I loved it EXCEPT (it's a big except) the son of a bitch ain't got no exterior water bottle pouch. That really bothered me. I ended up getting a Direct Action Dust and ultimately valued it more than my 5.11 but she's still a solid product.

I have this same bag in olive and I love it!!!! However, I wish that those two upper pockets were just one pocket like the rush 12. That's my only complaint.

@robertmartinez1645

4 жыл бұрын

@@hampad7884 Yes, but it's a tight fit

I think this review was totally useless...Until you fess up, what was in your drink?...lol. Seriously, a very good review. I'm not sure if this will help with the sagging, pens coming out, but I added a Condor water bottle holder to the front molles. I keep a bottle in it to sip or rinse/wash hands. So far the past year and a half things have stayed put. Keep up the reviews, very thorough and helpful...cheers. Oh yeah, I have 12 and 24.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Legacy Whiskey and coke (double on the whiskey). I was three drinks in when I started this video ;) Adding a medium+ puch to the front molle makes sense to keep that stiffened up. That's good advice! Thanks!

What color is that?

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

I think they call it "Sand Stone"

Only thing it really needs is a mollie waist belt

I'm subscribed you channel. 👍😉

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

What color is this pack?

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

5.11 calls it "Sandstone"

@jerryclark6467

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

"It doesn't stay stiff for very long"...haha

@mechanichalpixels

5 жыл бұрын

Bethca that will be on his tombstone.

You got the wrong bag. There's a difference between buying a quality bag and buying the RIGHT bag. If you find "all the stuff sinks to the bottom" and/or the bag "sags", the bag is too big for your needs. ANY soft sided bag will "sag" as the contents are what gives it shape.

27:42 ... Put it up against Maxpedition....the max, will win out.

I think hes carried this bag for 18 months :)

I find when it's loaded its not saggy. In this video you are looking at am empty, limp bag so of course it's saggy.

@betweenfiveandseven

Жыл бұрын

When it's loaded, it's worse... thus the non-traditional use of the "Tier System Straps" to keep things secure.

It’s a backpack...not a dresser drawer, stuff is gonna move around.

@betweenfiveandseven

4 жыл бұрын

I understand your point, but... On the other hand, it's supposed to be a backpack, not a dump pouch, right?