"the overheating is part of any motor"... Er, no, it means it's not getting cooled enough for the power getting pumped in there.

@Blox117

2 жыл бұрын

they clearly dont know what direct drive means either

@ricardorodrigues3508

2 жыл бұрын

these motor get pumped with a lot of volts, heat is expected

@MichaelSmith-fg8xh

2 жыл бұрын

@@ricardorodrigues3508 ...which is why adequate cooling is expected. There are motors with many thousands of volts applied that run 24x7.

@jamieniche

2 жыл бұрын

@@ricardorodrigues3508 much more to do with amps than volts. If the motor is overheating its getting more power than it can deal with.

@noone-ld7pt

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamieniche neither volt nor amps are the units for power.

I like your build but next time try with 29er wheel as it will be a Meg of the bike. Love your builds

I build trek marlin 5 with bafang 1000 midrange, battery 52v 20 amp hour. I would like to fit a better speed controller! Any ideas?

Nice build!

my hub motor doesn't make any sound. If I wasn't going 30 mph up hill it can be mistaken for a regular bike.

Did you ever post the e-bike build you showed at the beginning of your video, and asked viewers to comment if they wanted to see it?

Yes I like too see the 750w built.

4kWt on bicycle chain and chainwheels?

i dotn think cyc middrive have trotle no pedal mode? i thohth mid drives dont have cruis mode

Its so funny how advertisers talk its almost we live in a perfect world full of wonders using key words like top quality fast speed easy access etc etc i could go all day about it. (1 POUND FISH)

Do you think that the surron has the speed limiter on still.

2:40 I need one of those mounts to mount my rectangular battery

I’d like to see your first build too

That kit should really make a road bike absolutely rip!

@nathanadair6579

Жыл бұрын

Omg like 70 mph

@MrJasenstewart97

Жыл бұрын

Are you talking like a 700c? That would be a complete deathtrap, if you motorize any bike you should have some wider tires for better grip

I have a 2008 Santa Cruz super 8 with a og cyc 3000 watt mid drive motor and 60 v battery. I’m constantly getting flats at the valve stem from the high torque.. I can’t find rim locks like they have on dirt bikes.. what do you guys suggest I do to eliminate this issue?

@joshuataylor9224

Жыл бұрын

Super glue the tire to the rim all the way around on both sides. That will prevent the tire from slipping on the rim .

Do you think that a multi-speed drivetrain can last at short periods of 5000w full blast without major consequences and hurting the drivetrain's lifespan?

Did the price come down this year 2022

There is a case for 78x21700, even 80 pcs could be installed, its 1480 battery watts for 20s4p. Thats would be enough for 30 miles of range on full throttle)

I have a very similar bike. I might have to do the same after watching this lol

Do you need torque arms on rear if it’s a mid drive?

@Blox117

2 жыл бұрын

no because the torque generated is located at the motor, which in this case is where the mid drive is

the question is, can this mount and work for the TANDEM bike? the tandem have a LEFT side crank ring, unlike conventional bike that's on the right side.

@EBikeBuilder_

2 жыл бұрын

the motors drive side is on the right, so no.

@arjai9092

2 жыл бұрын

yes you will be able to install on the rear crankset which is on the right on most tandems

@christeschke9844

6 ай бұрын

use a 2x crank for a 1x setup on tandem to avoid having to left crank ring 2x on back , 1x on front that goes to inner 2x crank , then 1x goes to derailleur

@TechWeWant: which type of rear cassette do you use?? I keep breaking cassette pinion teeth every 70 miles or so with a simple Bafang BBSHD stock (1500w), even going easy on the throttle...So I can't imagine with a 5000w mid drive😮

@sidehop

2 жыл бұрын

I'd use Shimano steel cog; none of the fancy ones. My BBSHD is hacked to 4,000W and have used Surly cog as single speed setup perfectly fine :)

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

It’s the eagle gx stock on the bike

@moa-wg3bo

Жыл бұрын

What cassette do you use? Im considering doing this with a sram apex gravel groupset. if I have to replace my sprint gear frequently thats alright by me in return for 5000w lol. plus 95% of the time you are only using maybe 500W

PARADOX KINETICS kit how would you compare that to this

6:22 That Ruroc helmet sick asf

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

Not worth the cost

This is a good comparison. Thank you! This seems a lot better than the sur Ron. The sur Ron seems like a money pit.

@Snowbikebro2

2 жыл бұрын

lol my bike is the same but I have a bigger battery and rear suspension. I'm at half the cost of a surron and will go longer distance and faster and has legal modes to ride anywhere basically

@EBikeBuilder_

2 жыл бұрын

sur ron is more like a dirtbike or a motorcycle is it not?? cant really ride it on the road. Apples and oranges

@TheGamingChad.

2 жыл бұрын

same goes for HPC bikes and Stealth Bomber, DYI is the way to go! As much as i think HPC bikes are overpriced, their E-converstion kits might be something to considering

@TheGamingChad.

2 жыл бұрын

@Anonymous Panacea wrong, you can configure your own E-conversion kit up to 100 miles!!!

@MrJasenstewart97

Жыл бұрын

​@@Snowbikebro2 I'm around $1300 deep into a mongoose cx24v450 that I threw a 72v 3.6kw peak set up in with a 30ah pack and it's not quite as powerful as a suron but I'm able to keep up with my riding group easily and cops don't bother me if I start pedaling

What size chain ring was used on this? I can’t seem to find the follow up build details video.

@shahensayadian9253

Жыл бұрын

For anyone... Chain ring size, please, I'm planning to do diy ebike conversion, I picked up Trek Marlin 6 yesterday, I ordered cyc x1 pro G3 (38 chain ring) from Golden motor 72v display break sensor for $1,215 Free shipping to USA, I'm not sure if this 38 chain ring will fit or not, any help please.

@SUBMOA1

Жыл бұрын

@@shahensayadian9253 I’d go with the 36t or the 32t. You will probably not be able to use the 38t. The 36t will probably be close. The 32t is guaranteed to work but you do loose a little top speed (you might not have a choice). It is easier to peal without power with the smaller chainrings. I’ve used both on a similar setup.

50mph on a hardtail?! Couldn't do it around here roads are like the surface of the moon in some spots.

the bafang is cheaper.. but this looks way better!

@therodenthitman

2 жыл бұрын

And is MUCH louder. I like the power but the racket this thing makes is a deal breaker for me.

6:00 for overheating, use Grintech's Statorade ferroliquid, its a game changer.

@budwhite9781

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't that for hub motors?

@juancoleon4520

Жыл бұрын

Will Definitely Look into that…. Good Shit….

@-joo3033

Жыл бұрын

its more use for Hub motors,dont think CYC will get much benefit.

@colinriches1519

9 ай бұрын

Mid drives spin way too fast for statorade. The centrifugal force will surely overcome the magnetic force of the ferroliquid.

You guy should try using Samsung 35E, 52V 23.8Ah 1200Wh Or Panasonic GA 52V 23.8Ah 1200Wh batterys.

@MrChelseafc88

2 жыл бұрын

A 52v bat with 35e cells wouldn't work with the bac 2000. At 23.8ah that's a 14s7p battery and is capable of an amp draw of no more than 56amps maximum. The bac 2000 would ask for 70-80 battery amps continuous and it'll peak even higher. It'll only work safely if the amps in controller were lowered thus making it pointless to use that controller the above battery is more suited to the bac 855 which will draw 50 battery amps continuous so it's just about in the maximum limits of the battery. That'll make the bike 2600watts continuous.

Sounds like my gng mid drive ebike like an angry electric chainsaw 😏

@MrChelseafc88

2 жыл бұрын

Gng and cyc are one and the same

I like it very much.

I have done exactly what is in this video, and not a thing changed in my amps or speed. ? It doesn't work

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

Explain I will help I built the bike in the video and am the one riding it in the video

WOOOOAHHH AWSOME 😎.👍 THANK'S COOOOL VID 😉💙!

What battery did you use and wear did you purchase from

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

Electrify bike co

Anyone know the song playing in the background?

50 mph on stock 14 gauge 28 spoke aluminum wheels & 6061 aluminum hard tail frame with a bunch of extra weight added to the bike. What could possibly go wrong? I like e-bikes & this build for the most part but they're much too expensive for what you actually get. I'm gonna have to wait for solid state batteries. How long are those wheels & frame gonna last with extra e-bike weight & a 200 lb rider? My $350 2 stroke bike build hits 45 mph now gets 90 mpg's & could hit 50 with another $50 more in engine upgrade parts. The frame is a cheap 6061 aluminum 29in mongoose but is actually very similar in quality to the more expensive 6061 hard tail frames. The forks are sadly generic, I added $12 worth of oval spoke nipple washers to the 48 spoke double wall rear wheel for some more strength.The bike has a common generic 3 gear crank, derailleur, twist shifters,etc.. but they work fine & I rarely need to use them since it's motorized. I have some 203m floating brake discs on the way pushing the build to around $380. For a fraction of the cost, I have a fast 45 mph 2 stroke motorized bike, stronger 48 spoke 14G double wall wheels, steel hubs with thicker bolt on axles, not the skinny quick release skewers never meant for 50 mph speeds & heavier weight capacity. My hub are steel & add a tiny bit more weight but are stronger than aluminum hubs. Once you add the weight of engine or e-bike parts, you're better off with stronger steel- slightly heavier hubs than weaker, lighter aluminum ones. The downside to my build is, I don't have all the gears & high torque for steep hill climbing (but won't have constant chain breaking issues either) for less than 1/4 the cost of this e-bike build, I'm happy with what I have & will get the same if not more miles before new engine parts are needed.

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve done about 300 miles so far and it’s fine no damages I am a little concerned but it’s going great so far

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

If you have any specific questions I can answer them about that bike

If Deff be putting a bigger battery on it, but I need tbis kit

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I had a better battery one that could do 100 amps instead of 80

I would like to see the DIY ebike build using the Trek Marlin.

@trevorhoward2396

2 жыл бұрын

I made a Marlin 6/X1 pro gen 2 build this summer. 72v and about 4.2kw. That bike is an awesome platform for this kit

@joselopezgutierrez2070

2 жыл бұрын

I also would like to see the Marlin 5, which will help me decide if I should upgrade mine to a nicer Trek hard tail or just keep riding this one. Thanks!

@connorriley3793

2 жыл бұрын

I have a trek marlin 5 2022 and im think if puttong some money aside for a ekit

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@trevorhoward2396 that 720w dear cassette always breaks on the marlin 5 what did you do to fix that

@trevorhoward2396

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh just consider it a wear component. If you replace the chain before it wears the cassette it's fine. I've got my eyes on the box 2 system

The Battery Mount looks sick , can you get something like that shipped to Europe?

@BH4x0r

2 жыл бұрын

@Mission Gameliel sick as in cool probably

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

It is a prototype

For anyone... Chain ring size, please, I'm planning to do diy ebike conversion, I picked up Trek Marlin 6 yesterday, I ordered cyc x1 pro G3 (38 chain ring) from Golden motor 72v display break sensor for $1,215 Free shipping to USA, I'm not sure if this 38 chain ring will fit or not, any help please.

@ronsexton6829

Жыл бұрын

It looks like yours came with a 30 tooth chainring. Another issue is that the chain you have is probably too short / tight to use with a 38 tooth when trying to use the biggest (lowest) gears in the back. Much easier to swap a chainring than to make a chain longer. ...Every time you need a new chain. Also might need a longer derailleur hanger (I think that's what it's called) with a big chainring. Or go with a smaller cassette (rear gears) and keep the chain length and derailleur hanger. Bottom line, just getting a new 30 tooth chainring is probably the path to the least headaches. I went through this with a Bafang BBSHD and a 40t chainring with an original 32t on a 2022 Giant Talon 2 (very similar bike) and figured this out after a lot of time and even more profanity. Issues remain the same on the CYC. Hopefully my CYC will come before 2030.

That drive train will get decimated, hub drive makes much more sense at these powers or a propper spec drive train.

In some places, you built a motorcycle with pedals, most e-bikes are limited to 20mph (32kmph) on road

@CARLOSSANCHEZROMERO_YOGIBEER

2 жыл бұрын

Y en España a tan solo 25km/h y motor de potencia máximo de 250w y sin acelerador. Obligatorio pedalear. Así dice la ley. Si pones ese motor con esa potencia y velocidad obligatorio homologar (pagar ingeniero para presentar proyecto de homologación cumpliendo normativa) para matricular como moto electrica y pagar impuestos, hacer revision tecnica de vehiculos cada 2 años, contratar seguro de responsabilidad civil, etc... Es mas barato comprar moto electrica ZERO.

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what this is

@Mac181

2 жыл бұрын

Cars are limited to you hav to go 20 but u can go faster if ya want like a car depending how fast your E-bike is

When using tires, tubes, chains, pullies, bearings, grease and brakes made for 12 lbs bicycles traveling at 20 mph, how long does it take for the rider to kill a pedestrian or two and him/herself?

@Jeremy-kg1zr

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the ambition and talent of the rider. A reasonably skilled individual could probably get it done pretty quickly. Judging based on numbers, though, it seems to take a lot longer than most other forms of transportation.

@bob-ny6kn

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jeremy-kg1zr hahhahha. You made me laugh so hard, my dog thought I was dying. Thank you for that.

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

I’m still alive and haven’t killed anyone so I think I’m doing well (tho more than a few close calls)

@moa-wg3bo

Жыл бұрын

@@bob-ny6kn well that really depends on the kind of bike you buy. I wouldn't fit it to a shitty entry level bike or non branded thing with basic components, so in that sense absolutely. On the other hand mid to high end road and mountain bikes are designed to go at speeds in the 50kmh range (and frequently do). I guess your main point here is that you need good brakes and tires and I agree. Stick a decent set of 180mm hydraulic disc brakes and a good set of tires and you should be good to go. At least on my bike thats enough to stop from 50kmh in about 2 - 3 seconds since I know how to control my brakes properly. Also these bikes are in the 10 - 15kg range and made to hold people weighing up to 100kg. the 10kg increase in weight from the ebike system is negligble.

Why not add a rear rack and put a couple 30 amp batteries on a heavy duty bike? Battery blender should do the trick. 🤔 Doesn't need to be a light Trek mountain bike.

Hello, what chainring option did you purchase it with?

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

Middle of the road

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot the exact one but it was the middle

Something like this but for enduro ebike clone. May b thicker sprockets and chains for dirt bike style riding.

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

That’s my next build I just need to save up I’ve done 750 5000 now 22000 maybe even 32000

@lambertricalde1218

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnfrahm1313 can't wait to see 😍

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@lambertricalde1218 nor can I

Sweet

we picked a Trek Roscoe 7, we choose this bike because it's a hardtail....... sounds like only hardtail bike can mount this motor...

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

No I blame myself for that I didn’t want to lose power in a full suspension so I did a hardtail you can do any kind

Now we know where lemmings originated from...party on dudes!

Why do than spend that will you can buy a expensive one for 13,000 or buy one for 5,000 in get the same power basically there's one right now for 4,700 something dollars

build video asap

For how much can you make me one?

"We got tons of shit for free. We built this bike but don't show you how! Subscribe for no reason at all!"

As a guy who works at a bike shop let me say that you will wear through your chain and gears so quickly

@russellzauner

2 жыл бұрын

*chuckles in Gates belt drive upgrade*

@Jeremy-kg1zr

2 жыл бұрын

Or even just a beefy steel cog and beefy single speed chain. Probably no real need for gears with that much power. Maybe even run a 7sp or something like that if you did still want gears, but wanted to stick with beefier cogs and chain? You could use a Shimano XT 9sp derailleur, 7sp shifter, and 7sp cassette, so shifting would still be totally decent.

@TheGamingChad.

2 жыл бұрын

you recommend hub motors?

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

Actually I haven’t I snapped the cabin at 300 miles but other then that we are rocking and rolling

i can only imagine how much that motor and controller cost, not to mention the battery. poor people cant afford a build like your diy

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not cheap but the 750 one was and is amazing

Highly doubt the sur Ron was in sport mode haha but still cool bike

@TechWeWant

2 жыл бұрын

We only rode the Sur Ron in sport mode, can guarantee you it was in Sport mode!

@juniorotero9030

2 жыл бұрын

@@TechWeWant dam that thing is fast then If ur looking for power and no off road capabilities this is the way to go forsure but when ur throwing this kit on 2,000 or more expensive mountain bike ur better off buying the sur Ron

@juniorotero9030

2 жыл бұрын

@@TechWeWant and how’s the torque In the high ends bc with the sur Ron I can go up some pretty big hills the torque is always there i be blasting up them at 30mph sometime faster would you say this engine is better on flat roads no hills just nothing but trails

@moa-wg3bo

Жыл бұрын

@@juniorotero9030 Throw this on a downhill mtb like the canyon sender and you are getting all the offroad capabilities you could ever need. All in you are looking at a bike thats faster than a sur ron, has the ability to be an actual bike and be used in far more places, costs less, and weighs literally half as much (as little as 20 - 25kg vs over 50kg for the surron). Thats honestly the biggest problem I have with motorbikes - the weight. Nothing beats the agility of a something that weighs as little as a bike.

It's not a direct drive its carriage-drive or mid drive, a real direct drive is bigger and its mounting inside the wheel, and its soundless or more silent

Attach a heat sink to the motor.

This is not a direct drive motor it’s a mid drive the sur ron is a direct drive how did you mess this up it says it on their website 🤦

@arnescherhag783

2 жыл бұрын

Both Sur Ron and Cyc are mid-drives. Key difference is that sur ron is single speed. So perfect chain line and beefy chain. The DIY bike has 10+ gears and a narrow bike chain that is designed to withhold 500W human power or so.

@arnescherhag783

2 жыл бұрын

For a real comparison, the DIY bike should be switched to single speed.

@arnescherhag783

2 жыл бұрын

You need gears when driving in pedal assist mode. For throttle driving, a single gear can be sufficient.

@pascalkargut3237

2 жыл бұрын

@@arnescherhag783 ok dude you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about the sur is a chain driven direct drive motor cause it has regen a mid drive means that it has gears and it wouldn’t be fare to just switch it to a single speed cause that defeats the point of a mid drive and if your were to convert it to a single speed the performance would go way down smh 🤦‍♂️

It's looking clean and have good specs, but for 2300$ (without the bike) It possible to build faster bike with longer range....

@vasilgrigorov6157

2 жыл бұрын

And that's not a hate comment. I just want to compare the price on video with Ebay purchase you can make.. Battery (550$), rear hub motor (645$) with the total cost of 1196$... Top speed is 60mph and the range of (not sure)100 miles (no pedaling)

@tanduong3224

2 жыл бұрын

@@vasilgrigorov6157 I wonder what rear hub motor can get you up to speed of 60 mph. None I see on Amazon or EBay.

@-joo3033

2 жыл бұрын

@@tanduong3224 QS 205 & QS273, Mxus 3K turbo, depends on the motor winding, Battery specs, controller etc...you think its the motor that matters the most maybe you should stay away from fast Ebikes...

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@vasilgrigorov6157 please send links would love to build and test it out

I remember when you could buy a used motorcycle for $500.but they figured out how to tame the sheep.with steep pricing to popularize crappy offerings.LOL

10 miles on 12ah is normal with no peddling, 21ah is optimal

Cyc won't do a unexpected wheelie or one from a stand still. As far as the rear end kicking out. Not really unless you're really trying. Lacks alot of bottom end torque. I have done both gen1 and gen2 with syock controllers and both 855 and bac2000 controllers. My 72v bbshd with bac855 leaves the cyc in the dust even from a stand still. And my bbshd will do 50mph easy. As in the video you can see the rider putting in a lot of effort off the line where as the surron rider doesnt have to. Just shows you that it does lack the bottom end torque. Now maby next time compare apples to apples. Get a surron that has a bac2000 and 72v then put it back on the line and see who really wins.

@arnescherhag783

2 жыл бұрын

Low Bottom end torque or slowly ramping up torque has benefits. It avoids your drivetrain (chain, gears) being destroyed by the motor.

@arnescherhag783

2 жыл бұрын

If you built an e-MTB with bike component, you should be aware of components limits. Bikes are not built for this speed. So comparing an ‚overpowered‘ MTB with an e-moto is pointless. I own a Cyc Gen2 and run it at 52V and 25km/h top speed to match German limits.

@arnescherhag783

2 жыл бұрын

As nick I never experienced a wheelie or wheelspin with my Cyc X1 build. Video exaggerates the motor power. It is 3-5kW only, not a motorbike with 50kw 😂

@nickrinkel1423

2 жыл бұрын

@@arnescherhag783 I got 3 cyc builds ....if it wasny for me cyc would never be claiming 5kw they would still be saying 3kw.......ive been dealing with the motor since 1st run pre order gen 1. Yeah serial number5. Yeah a wheelie on the stock gen1 way back in the impossible to keep ot though becauce of throttle lag. And yeah i got data with vids to back up my claims as well as conversations saved of how cyc knew they were sending out faulty controllers to customers. But to "exaggerate" something is to lie about it...good example their not faulty....gets a unit and conyrollet goes out in 5 min.....well there seems to be issues with our batch.....then the next baych and so on. Excuses only benifit those giving them....bottom line

@TechWeWant

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Nick, Arne - you both make some interesting points. Yes of course a Sur Ron with a bac2000 and 72v has amazing power. But at how much of a cost when you add up the bike + extra components and battery? We know people who have Sur Rons and quickly get to $10k+ in cost if you go down the rabbit hole. Whereas these CYC motors seem to be pretty powerful for the price. We could have our friend do wheelies on the eBike if you want to see it. In the future we will do a single speed mid drive eBike Build. Also there are more competitors similar to Sur Ron being developed that we know of and we will review many of them

But whats up with that sick Honda CRF 👀

@TechWeWant

2 жыл бұрын

I know right... the guy sold it 💸

This won't last long, bike drive trains are not built for 5kw and that much torque.

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

6 months later still going strong only had to replace the chain once

nice but the surron xx is faster hitting 60 mph

@mre741

2 жыл бұрын

No it doesn't

@abuabdirahman08

2 жыл бұрын

@@mre741 yes the limited edition one does the xx i got it to 59

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@abuabdirahman08 I can get that bike up to 50 so it’s a moot point

All i heard is that you magically called them and they magically give you everything for free... L A M E

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

Not really what went down but why is that lame

If I see one of these when I'm backpacking on a trail I might be tempted to put a shoulder into the guy as he passes. The ruts high torque wheels produce make hiking very difficult. This goes for pedal-only bikes as well but I see an increase in e-bikes on the trails soon. I will admit that this bike is really cool for the road though. I imagine you would need a road registration and a motorcycle license to drive one on the road. Great channel. Thumb up and subbed.

@rickstard73

Жыл бұрын

You really are a knob 😅

Rear axle on the older than 2021 is shit rear dropout axle

Ride a Surron, Ride a Flimsy MTB and see you cant compare both. Surron is Streetlegal. Ride your screaming CYC crap at 30mph on street and check out what penalty you get.

@TechWeWant

2 жыл бұрын

We've been riding both on the street at 50mph and have yet to get any penalties. Depends where you ride and how you ride and where the Karens are located.

@bob-ny6kn

2 жыл бұрын

@@TechWeWant Is it just you or the entire production crew who are also se*ist and racist?

Anyone can be an expert when you have all these companies to help you and custom make components for you. YOU ARE NOT EXPERTS. And for Surron you will need a driving licence, if not yet , soon (maybe not in America). And your chain will skip a lot and also means that your components will brake down at high speeds or at least you will have to do a lot of maintenance so is not for beginners or medium raiders.

I can see that who wrote the text had no clue what he us writing about

Don’t go direct drive, your going to be snapping chains all the time because they typically have more torque than hub motors

@edblock8117

2 жыл бұрын

What if I put 7v group in it?

@edblock8117

2 жыл бұрын

7v chain is more strong i think

@cobra4439

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure what a 7v is unless you mean 72 volt. Also hub drives are quieter

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve only snapped it once in the months since this video came out

Here's my beef with mid-drives: it puts all that torque through a drivetrain designed to only take the torque of legs.. I think it's dumb, but smart from a marketing stand point.. parts will just keep wearing out, failing and having to be replaced.. I'd rather run a separate chain from the motor to a large sprocket attached to the 6 bolt disc mounts of a disc wheel.. I have one on my Kona Ute.. it's 53 tooth and shoold keep the motor nice and happy at higher rpms, adding my leg power separately through the regular chain and saving it a lot of wear by reducing the strain on it.

@aaronj.edelman916

2 жыл бұрын

What motor are you using?

@andretokayuk8100

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronj.edelman916 Well, my mental sketch is based on the cyc stealth, but should work with either one... just needs to be able to run backwards as the sprocket is getting flipped from the right to the left side of the bike... Will likely machine my own attachment hardware. Hope I don't have to make a cog..) Not super stoked on how the motor is mated to a smaller chain first.. I'd hate to run that all the way back.. when I could be using closed link half link chain for the motor... In other words, my perfect e-bike motor still does not exist..)

@E-bikeguy

Жыл бұрын

That's why I run a hub drive.

this vid doesnt give me any idea of what it feels like to ride the bike hard.

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

You feel like you are flying the world moves out of the way for you

Just get a Talaria

So you just lied you said your bike does 50 mph your bike does 40 pedaling you can get 50 mph.

@johnfrahm1313

2 жыл бұрын

No it does 50 throttle only

Riding a bike like that on a sidewalk like an idiot is one of the reasons regulation is getting worse

Be glad not proud

Get off the sidewalk!

imagine mounting cables that are 10 inches in width on your phone your battery only pulls 30 amps that's the max power it'll be able to put out you guys have no experience building e bikes

Hahahahahahaha

Way to much money

So no shocks in the back is better?

@ronsexton6829

Жыл бұрын

Full suspension (front and back) is better for keeping both tires stuck to the road. Fitting a battery big enough to give any sort of range using this much power into the frame triangle is the big issue. The hardtail (front suspension only) has all the space in the triangle available. Even small frame hardtails generally do not have enough space available for a battery big enough to be useful. If you can fit on a size medium bike or bigger, do that. I have a medium and a small and cut the seatpost down with a pipecutter on the medium so that I can sit in the seat and still have both feet planted on the ground when stopped. The small is more comfortable as is, but only fits little shark batteries that this motor would suck dry in minutes.

your just reselling a chinese stuff you can already buy , and its all crap anyways. your not going to get fit and healthy not peddling your bike its what there for.

Revelation 14:12. King James Version. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Range is horrible.

Way too expensive and not alot of booom. I have converted my 1500w to 3000w added cooling veins to the outside of the hub motor, added a 72v battery and the bike easily hits 70mph range is about the same. But the power is mental.

@Phil8sheo

2 жыл бұрын

You are pulling quite a bit more than 3,000 watts if you are hitting 70mph. To go that speed, you are going to need around 5,000 watts if not more.

@baconcrusader7476

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phil8sheo yeah that's what I thought, currently working on a aprilla Motocross frame powered by 12,000watt hub motor. Need a good source for high powered battery :)

@luigimaster111

2 жыл бұрын

mid-drive and direct drive are quite different. From what I can gather, mid-drive has the benefit of providing more torque, and generally being more efficient, so more suited for bumpy roads / offroading and might get more miles out of your battery. I use my e-bike to commute to work and I've been finding that I dislike the maintenance required to keep a hub motor going long term, not a fan of transferring the motor to a new rim, replacing snapped spokes, and trueing the wheel every time I hit a rock. I'm switching to mid-drive for my next commuter as it looks like there won't be as much monthly maintenance to content with, plus I can switch over to mag wheels.

How to build a short-distance gear-destroying ebike. Pretty much worthless.

lol, buying the Trek for $1,400 is just hilarious.... talk about rip off

cool but its ugly

10 miles on full throttle pmsl what a joke seen bikes that do 70mph for an hour with similar wattage batteries for less than half this price

These bikes are slow

299MPH To 310MPH By Pedal Assist

Revelation 14:12. King James Version. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Revelation 14:12. King James Version. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.