I think you can make it yourself, just loook and learn from woodprix .

@Kai-Made

4 жыл бұрын

look around, there are a lot of people into this. There is a community out there that we were able to contact...(online community btw) that had plans that we were able to get. They were either free or really cheap. We adapted them to 10 inch stove pipe and full 55 gallon barrel. Used 2 times the amount of clay/mass too. Works.

@mazieholter4274

4 жыл бұрын

Plans are perfect Vlad!

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

3 жыл бұрын

yeah only the narrator - he now says to do NOT use a metal heat riser

I've built a RMH myself with no piping in the mass....just a void or 'bell' which allowed the heat to stratify before gases exited the outlet flue. Very efficient and inexpensive, but heavy in labour. Get the books!

@mythoughts1................1

Жыл бұрын

Now that you've had it in for a while, do you think that its better without installing pipe in the mass or with the pipe in the mass of the RMH?

rocket mass and rocket heaters are quite affordable if you have the time to scavenge...and even if you do not, they are cheaper than the store equivalent efficiency. Installed one with my father in law in the in-law's new home. Works wonderfully. Adapted the plans from someone in the rocket mass community...apparently they do exist. The clay cost less than 400, found the bricks, had the drum...the last things we needed was some 10 inch stove pipe, both double and single walled. I would say around 1200 total for a beast of a stove. It is large enough to heat 2200 square feet, fired 2 times a day in the dead of winter. It seats 3 people comfortably(because it is a freaking couch)....! Anyway, I really wish we could have installed one in our home when we were building it years back, maybe one day. In the meantime we have a Mohawk(from the 70s) which is a top draft stove which is amazing. Not as efficient as the rms but close.

I like the comment that sustainability shouldn't be unaffordable. It seems like most green energy things are outrageously expensive.

@copecotrain

5 жыл бұрын

Al Gore must get richer!

@wiretamer5710

4 жыл бұрын

Why are you BUYING green energy things? Often the greenest thing you can do is repair, re-use or re-purpose something you already have, or has been thrown away by other people.

@lepalletchalet2480

4 жыл бұрын

@@wiretamer5710 a good balance should be buying things and re using and repairing in equal balance to gain the strengths from working with both

@LieutenantSteel

4 жыл бұрын

@@copecotrain As long as Green energy companies are run for profit, and not to meet the needs of society you'll find that it's expensive; it has nothing to do with people fighting for a greener climate, like Al Gore, and everything to do with living in a Capitalist economy that is run for profit; as long as profit is considered a goal, solutions that people require will always be more expensive than they need to be, in order to generate that profit.

@davekauffman8727

4 жыл бұрын

Would you work for free? I wouldn't expect anyone to, employees cost money so there has to be some way to pay people to work, as well as pay the bills too. Free-enterprise is the best way to keep greed under control, when businesses must compete for customers, it forces them to keep production costs at a minimum in order to maintain status. Socialism only works if an outside contributor is present. Talk to anyone from Cuba about how life was there.

To answer a few questions: - How a rocket mass heater works: As we all know heat rises so lets skip that discussion and go onto a more in depth explanation... The smoke/heat take the path of least resistance which is up the larger diameter riser (taller portion of the J tube) and out the venting pipe. In doing so a vacuum is created which pulls air into the smaller lower opening of the J tube creating a high velocity airflow which supplies more oxygen to the fire thus creating much higher temperatures resulting in a very efficient burn of the wood which leaves minimal waste (unburnt wood) resulting in minimal amounts of ash leftover and a very clean burn. All in all more energy is extracted from the wood therefore less wood is needed. The gases that would typically be in the smoke almost don't exist in a rocket mass heater. This is due to a very efficient burn of the wood. The more efficient the burn the less harmful and cleaner the exhaust becomes. This applies to anything that burns. Just a FYI: Wood doesn't burn it's the gases in the wood that burn and to release these gases heat is needed, the more heat you have the more gases are released. These gases can be captured and used to run an engine and can be used in many other ways such as storing it in a holding tank (propane tank) and using it the same way you would use propane or any other gas. This method is called wood gasification, if you want to learn about wood gasification just look it up..

@vincevegacustoms754

5 жыл бұрын

Nobody cares of your explanation.its everywhere buddy

@wuyiwolf2660

5 жыл бұрын

my question is ...how do you clean out the ash and soot , and how do you light the fire

@Deathbynature89

5 жыл бұрын

"Wood doesn't burn it's the gases in the wood" The solid carbon that becomes charcoal isn't gas dude.

Love rocket stoves, but although the wood is burned efficiently, it burns as lot faster, I built one and had to feed it frequently if not contniously. The only one that seems to be maintenance-free is the kind that uses wood pellets.

@scotttland31

2 жыл бұрын

Did you force the exhaust down towards the bottom of the burn chamber and then horizontal to heat the mass like a long bench and then to the outside with a long riser outside your house? Keyword "Mass heater"

Very interesting. I wouldn't mind having a look at the flue mechanism to see if we could include an air feed to attempt to reignite some of the leftover wood gas. Not sure if that's covered

@johnverkler3962

2 жыл бұрын

If you looked at more videos of this, you would know that there are NO residual gases left to burn. They do not use metal in the main burn chamber. Why? Experiments show that after a few "burns" its all melted apart scrap metal.

@7ann7seven13

Жыл бұрын

@@johnverkler3962 Interesting reply, thank you ...

@johnverkler3962

Жыл бұрын

@@7ann7seven13 Thank You for your Thank You. =-)

How long do you think the inner pipe will last?1 or 2 seasons before it burns a hole in it . you chuold use a fire resistand fleu in here .use perlite-clay mixture inbetween the 2 pipes and it will last you a lifetime . just more energy effectif and efficient :-)

I know that in most places where wood burning stoves are permitted, there often is a chimney cleaning requirement, in my experience an annual requirement. My question is, if the flue gasses run through horizontal pipes to heat the thermal mass... how would one be able to access those sections for the sake of cleaning? I know that 90° angles are problematic in the sweeping process. Also someone should investigate the specific roadblocks for permits in residential situation. Certainly the permit process is a pain but usually if one can prove reliability and safety via a study or engineering report, inspection agencies would approve their use. (That is, it can be difficult, but it can be done.)

@vincevegacustoms754

5 жыл бұрын

Gas inside burns down instead of coating the pipe.pressure keeps it cleaner just ashes to clean

@johnmarkhatfield

5 жыл бұрын

There are usually T cleanouts put in, but the stove also gets up to temperatures that combust virtually all material and volatiles. The mass takes the heat that usually gets to above 1500 deg. Safest and most efficient stoves in the world are also illegal. Hurrah america.

@johnverkler3962

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmarkhatfield very well said. "The- powers-that-be" (government and insurance) likely, do not, in their minds, like the idea of an un covered open flame in the room. They have the built-in unwillingness to change... anything. New ideas are out. Disclaimer: If the Rocket Mass Heater is not built exactly right, it won't operate properly, and could be dangerous. They do not understand the powerful down draft of the system won't let flames, poisonous gasses and smoke into the room. They're too used to the common metal, un-efficient wood burning heaters that let most of the heat fly up the chimney.

You can find something like this on the Avasva page. Full step-by-step instructions right on your desk.

Hey, just found your channel. I think I would like to build one of these. I want to integrate water heating into it as well. 1st I need to better understand the latest tech to make it efficient and to use less wood. Any recommendations?

Hi- have you ever tried to incorporate a clay oven setting on top of the barrel? Are high refractory bricks the same as fire bricks. Thank you for sharing your video.

Is there a risk when you light the stove of the exhaust gases going the wrong way? i.e. sucking air from the chimney and out via the fuel hole?

This is a fantastic channel. I thank you!

i have seen lots of videos on rocket stoves to keep them going they have be feed every 45-60 min it is not a feed and forget, also if not feed with twigs such as long boards the fire could and often does leave the burn chamber burning down the house if no one is home and hard to clean well. masonry for me too.

But how you start a fire with chimney that is not pulling air. And alot of air goes true the chimney, with the need to open a window or door and how efficiant is that? Also you need skinny wood what means more work to proces it! I dont know....

Very important info....we may need it sooner than we think!!

boa tarde, gostaria de saber se aquela tubulação enterrada no chão, são necessaria, ou posso mandar direto para fora uma chaminé. Good afternoon, I wonder if that pipe buried in the ground are needed, or can send out a direct chaminé.ou send me the project please

This type of heating is ubiquitous throughout rural Russia and Siberia...I'm confused, why are people talking about this as if it were a western contemporary idea to address a third world scarcity of fuel? My friend used to sleep on one of these cob stoves just outside Kemerovo that had been built shortly after WWII. It was one of the 'newer' ones in the village.

@AshleyLubyk

10 жыл бұрын

Good point. My Baba (who is now 99) used to do all these things on the Canadian prairies. She learned from her folks who came over from the Ukraine. My folks, however, have no clue. The knowledge transfer was stopped because people had figured that they had found better ways to do things. Facing limits, it appears we're rediscovering 'new' ways of doing things our ancestors used to do out of necessity.

@HondoTrailside

6 жыл бұрын

Masonry heaters are traditional, rocket mass heaters are new. Of course, if your family invented them a hundred years ago, cool. But they were never general, or really known.

@vincevegacustoms754

5 жыл бұрын

This is because americans beleive they are the only ones who invent everything..while in reality they are just the fattest uneducated people on earth!!if u can name all presidents you have culture for them 😂😂😂

@redpillcopinthephilippines9647

5 жыл бұрын

NPC you sound like a fucking communist.

@crcurran

5 жыл бұрын

Its the internal shape of the rocket mass heater and te efficiency obtained that is different than Russian ceramic heaters.

Thanks, great video. On 4.22 there is a scheme, I would love to have the info that goes with it namely the proportions of the measurements A,B,C ect. How could I get this ..?

The exaust comes out the bottom the super heated air is rising out of the riser and causes positive pressure in the barrel which pushes the remaining air down through the exaust then the exaust starts to create a suction that causes the stove to rocket

So, if you have been away for a week and your house is freezing cold this will be useless as it, I guess, will take about how many hours for the mass to heat up? Other than that, I love it and would use it daily.

@ashfrodesen9126

10 жыл бұрын

that's the point of having the barrel produce radiant heat. it gives the instant heat you want, very soon after you light the fire, easily comparable to a normal wood stove. the mass only collects heat that would otherwise be leaving the chimney. you cant do that on a normal wood stove because a normal stove doesn't get hot enough to burn the creosote before it can condense on the stovepipe. when the exhaust leaves the barrel, it is mostly nitrogen, CO2, and water vapor. this hot exhaust is pushed out through the mass by the force of the super heated fire in the heat riser. by the time it leaves the house, it is 100-200 degrees.

I understand the concept of the heat being sucked into the barrel but wondered, when first firing it up, how does the heat and smoke 'know' to go into the barrel and not straight upwards into the room.

@deJager

8 жыл бұрын

+M Spanford Lighting a small piece of wood and holding it inside causes the warmer air to rise up the long vertical piece. This causes the pressure differential which creates that "sucking".

@pajodato

8 жыл бұрын

www.conicet.gov.ar/calefaccion-accesible-y-de-primer-nivel/ I have seen one of these stoves here (they call them the russian stove). And it suck the smoke inside it like a vacuum, making a noise like a motor (as shown in the video). Is very neat. No smoke, not ashes. But here they use a chimney to vent the stove, with very few smoke.

@rbodell

6 жыл бұрын

I have a rocket stove heating my cabin here in Alaska I used 1 cord of wood last winter. While my design is different, the concept is the same. Believe me, any flame at all under that chimney will start the process. Once heat starts to rise, the fire increases and draws more air. I have occasionally gotten some flame outside the firebox and it sucked it rite in. my cabin is 10x14., if there was even the slightest smoke being introduced into the room it would be horrible.

This looks similar to a Dakota dugout.

How do you clean up its internals? But yeah, one can't buy sustainability.

I am surprised that been years I seen this rocket stove videos, none of them every consider putting metal fins on the barrel for more effective heat radiation, with an opened bottom and top case wrap around those fins, first it's safer to prevent people accidentally direct contact with the heated barrel, second, the cold air will suck into the gap from bottom of the casing, passing though the fins and heat up.(passive airflow)

@randalmoroski4423

3 жыл бұрын

Time to make that idea into video... and if you do ? Please use some other then a boring ol’ barrel.... Good luck I’ll look for your video!

@johnverkler3962

2 жыл бұрын

@@randalmoroski4423 The "boring old barrel" as you say, is what runs and makes the thing work.

@johnverkler3962

2 жыл бұрын

The barrel does not need fins to make it more efficient. You need to watch more videos to see more of how they work and why they wouldn't need fins.

@tims6540

2 жыл бұрын

m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmuEj5igobzNYso.html actually i think he has good point. many of these DIY rocket stoves still produce a little smoke and some a lot of smoke. if you don't get the measurements for each chamber exact it won't burn as hot or as clean... i wouldn't build the link i showed but i bet a fan blade on a DIY rocket stove could make it more efficient, especially if your measurements were off..

@christophersleight19

2 жыл бұрын

I believe you can actually touch the barrel and not get burned. The gases that come out of these (properly made) units is less than 120°.

Isn't the barrel affected by the corrosive gases?

I believe that Portland, OR has a rocket stove certified for use in a house. =)

Why do you extend the exhaust out and surround it by thermal mass, but not the barrel? So more radiant heat goes directly into the room?

@jamesjordan8399

5 жыл бұрын

the barrel cools off quickly when the fuel runs out , warming the large mass stores the heat that is released into the dwelling over many hours . instead of going right up the chimney like a conventional stove

a masonry wood stoves can be made easy or hard to clean, load 2 or 3 times a day. the rocket stove is open like a fire place when fires out.

Could a large rocket stove be built outside and the heat transported in under like in a crawl space to warm up underneath the house

sooo what happens when your little pit builds up with ash? from the looks of it there is so way to empty the ash but to destroy and rebuild. could be a serious risk for a fire if enough builds up. maybe incorporate a small slid able tray on the bottom of your pit.

@TheConstantComet

9 жыл бұрын

I've not built a rocket stove and am no expert, but I believe by design there's SIGNIFICANTLY less ash produced because of the method of burn. I've seen some designs that have ash traps and collection areas on the exhaust as well, so I think that's an option.

@TysonCapel23

9 жыл бұрын

There are multiple clean out ports. One is at the bottom of the J tube (the bottom where the wood sits), the next is right next to the exit pipe on the bottom of the barrel so you can clean out the barrel, the others are placed along the stove pipe ducting that is surrounded in the cob mass. The easiest way to clean out the ash is using a vacuum such as a shop vac. There is very minimal ash build up due to such an efficent burn, and the ash that is loftover is a very fine powder.

Can you please tell me where I can get the information that you have showed 4:23 time frame in the picture ??? I am looking for the mathematical part of the rocket stove part. Am trying to build one that is a hybrid between a wood stove and a rocket stove. I bet you when someone puts the rocket stove for retail sale they will make a fortune. Very rarely does something come to the market that really works, has a benefit for the customers wallet, and is good for mother earth. Nice work too.

You have worked very well and I something like

@ConstantinLehadus

7 жыл бұрын

I watched your films, you did a good job

The Liberator rocket heater is UL listed. I believe that certifies it for in home use. I'm buying one for next winter.

@250tegra

4 жыл бұрын

@Heinzkitz Velvet - that does look good. They seem to know what they are doing.

@EwePeople

9 ай бұрын

They've come a long way

problem for USA home use may be using 55 gallon drum after being heated , cooled and heated many times will rust out just a guess maybe 3 yrs depends on how hot it gets. so why not start with at least 3/16" or thicker metal barrel ?? if home is build tight then maybe a fresh air line in chimney could be piped to a door on fuel inlet port. after fuel put in close door then fresh air goes to heater warmer than outside air. do like your heater -- working on a design my insurance company will approve hopefully

I could have used one of these at the start of winter. I should make one with my powerarc for next winter.

Can we get/see all the plan shown at 4:22 ?

Hey there's no discussion of the insulated riser inside the barrel. I'm pretty sure you guys made it insulated but there's no discussion of it in the video.

hi, why we use an insulating pipe wrapped on the pipe inside? the insolator should be placed on the outer pipe isn't it? so people won't burnt if touch it. do you have explanation on this case?

@Nirky

10 жыл бұрын

The insulation on the heat riser (inside pipe) is to keep the exhaust gasses as hot as possible for a more complete combustion. More complete combustion = more heat generated.

I just want to know tall to make the flue that's inside the 55 gallon drum, and how low to put the exit flue for max efficiency.

Well done cheer

Question..how would using sawdust bricks be when it comes to use instead of say firewood?

It appears that the smoke output is decidedly less than a traditional campfire. This looks like a potential way to heat a greenhouse in the winter and create CO2 for the plants at the same time. What are your thoughts?

@christophersleight19

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, greetings from Colorado Springs Colorado. I'm extremely concerned that the "sustainable" push, generated by the *Green Movement is a trojan horse of dysfunction. * The people at the core of this have managed through propaganda to convince much of the public to accept ideas about energy and energy use that don't work. Have a great day. C H

@michaelrowley6069

2 жыл бұрын

@@christophersleight19 I don't know if this is an appropriate response to your statement but I believe that a large part of the climate change push is reactionary and more dedicated research is needed. I don't believe we have a full picture and that fear mongers are using it as a stick to beat any opposition to their rise to power. I would like to become more sefl-sufficient to first provide for my family and second be in a position to help others. My actions are independent to the green movement.

@christophersleight19

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelrowley6069 , what you said, excellent. Thanks C

PPPPSSSSTTTTT-simply draw steps, and show me exactly what to do. I need the plans to make my own!

@brettwilliams124

8 жыл бұрын

+Robin Sauls Google is your friend.

@robinrwilsonsauls

8 жыл бұрын

Well Brett-thanks for that. Nothing!

@brettwilliams124

8 жыл бұрын

Well Mr. Sassy Pants, here's a direct link then. bfy.tw/4UtK

@DaveBowman345

8 жыл бұрын

+Brett Williams ... Brilliant!

@Rocky1765

8 жыл бұрын

Brett, that is awesome, I did not know google had the feature. LOL

yes .Where do you clean the ash out?

@brettwilliams124

8 жыл бұрын

+macaristan34 Good point.

@RyanKudasik

8 жыл бұрын

You design in a few clean outs. No problem.

@TheJDiane

4 жыл бұрын

If done right, there is no ash. Add enough oxygen and you will have complete combustion into water and carbon dioxide.

Just got the rocket mass heater built and I'm having trouble with the smoke coming back out the inlet and it will sometimes put itself out. Got any ideas as to what the problem is? I need some help.

@jpatch32

9 жыл бұрын

I ended up pulling it apart and changed that gap from 2 inches to about 1 inch and that seemed to make all the difference

How many fire bricks does it take for a 55 gal drum rocket stove and what size are the bricks? Also is the pipe that comes out of the stove that goes into the bench how does that connect to the stove is it just stuck in there under the drum? Thanks

Very nice Thanks :)

I like this question and would like to know as well!

All of these videos have endless minutes of the fire burning.. I get it it It is a wood stove there is a fire show the rest of the construction the inside of the barrel the insulation if there is any

Where do you clean the ash out?

@HondoTrailside

6 жыл бұрын

It mostly collects just where the pipe exits the barrel, the manifold area. Since it is 95% efficient, there is very little ash at all. But you can build a cleanout there, and in other places. Normally some kind of metal screw cap. The barrel normally can be removed, or some people use just enough of a second barrel that it can be clamped to the main barrel with a barrel connector, that gets you pretty much inside everything.

One thing I haven't figured out yet is how do you take ashes out of the stove. What I see from the design, you do it by letting the fire die down and then you stick a vacuum cleaner tube down that tiny opening and suck it all out. Other than that, my grandma could really use this.

@TheKSProduction

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah no one talks about the cleaning side of these things. It's probably a huge pain in the ass. I will try these when someone figures out an easy way to clean them.

How much space can this mass setup maintain? Is this setup primarily used for simple small single room structures measured in the hundreds of square feet? It seems like that would be there best use. Kind of like a small off the grid place maybe.

One thing I can tell you is the exiting temperature can be 80 degrees which is less then your body temperature. Also complete combustion is attained. i.e. the only exiting gases are CO2 and H2O. No smoke or CO

ok question folks!!! what was the grey clay they were putting on ? was it " Cement" ?? why did they not wear any gloves ? do they like industrial skin illness?

@HILUXCHAINSAW

10 жыл бұрын

The grey clay was a 'clay and sand mix', not cement. They did not wear gloves because the mix poses no hazard. You can buy industrial/commercial grade clays, just Google 'Clay Suppliers'. 1000kg, a metric Ton, costs around £220.

@insideman6759

10 жыл бұрын

ok! good to clear that one up ;)

@jamesjordan8399

5 жыл бұрын

It's called cob. look it up for various mixtures primarily clay , sand , soil, and some add vermiculite .

Is that fan spinning on top due to the heat rising? Is dose the heat power some kind of generator?

@OldSchoolDo

7 жыл бұрын

heat rising makes the fan blade spin and thus circulation happens .. heating the room :)

@Jeremy-fy1sz

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. There is a thermocouple between the upper fins and the base.

What about empty for ashes and sod in the chimney ?

@Rocky1765

8 жыл бұрын

Same question, he said the exhaust goes through the bench, but the architectural drawing showed a regular chimney???

@darrelljacobjr2120

7 жыл бұрын

Perhaps not shown, there should be a duct cap/ cleanout right where the gasses leave the drum. Ash will collect there, but really it burns so hot/ efficiently you may only get a double-handful of ash out in 3-4 weeks.

@darrelljacobjr2120

7 жыл бұрын

The ducting, carrying hot gasses, leaves the drum, travels through the mass/ bench, doubles back through the bench, then goes to the exhaust riser (what you think of as the chimney) to get the CO2 and water vapor exhaust out of the house.

I built a j tube and if I put long stick in they start to burn up the sticks what do you think I'm doing wrong

@Kai-Made

4 жыл бұрын

not enough draft. Increase height of chimney? Decrease size/diameter of tube?

what about carbon monoxide? can you factor that in if it leaks...Please respond, i am very interested.

how does the fan work on top of the stove? is it on the heat of the stove itself?

@OwlMoovement

9 жыл бұрын

Joram Dehens Yup. www.network54.com/Forum/417256/message/1259395233/Stirling+Engine+stovetop+wood+stove+fans

Como has hecho el horno que esta detrasde ti

Pop a cast iron pan on top of that barrel let it heat up and I have fried eggs and bacon on them. Many other videos where people add in small doors where they put dough in to make breads. Just gotta look around.

there has been many rocket stoves approved for indoor Ernie and Erica have had theirs approved by building inspectors

@Kai-Made

4 жыл бұрын

those cats sure know their RMS tech. I think they were the folks that helped my fam with plans a few years back.

I want to build one need some little giide lines

This guy looks like lumberjack Murr from Impractical Jokers.

Hello, Great Video! Do you by chance know the optimal ratio of the Diameter of the J-Tube to the Diameter of the outer burn chamber (secondary burn chamber)? I am looking into building one of these using a 150gal (US) propane tank as the secondary burn chamber, and I want to know what size tube I need for the heat riser (J-Tune). Any help would be appreciated.

@johnverkler3962

2 жыл бұрын

Ernie and Erica Wisner have been making these for decades. They know what works, and what doesn't. They have a published book. I don't remember the exact name of it. Rocket Mass Heater is in the name.

@johnverkler3962

2 жыл бұрын

Auto correct spelling is a punk, sometimes.

Would it be an improvement in combustion to build riser also from insulated fire brick or castable + vermiculite?

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

3 жыл бұрын

They say now to NOT use metal for the heat rise - so yes

@niallwildwoode7373

2 жыл бұрын

It's been done by a few RMH builders, so yes.

So how do you take care of the condensate?

@shexdensmore

9 жыл бұрын

***** With any high efficiency furnace, you have a lot of condensation. Because there is moisture still remaining in the wood and from the combustion it's as a byproduct. You'll get condensate somewhere if the exhaust isn't over 212°f. As for your stove, any and all moisture produced is totally vaporized as it goes up the flue.

Just what interest would Shell have in sponsoring such a video?

@cbrooks1992

8 жыл бұрын

Public Relations probably. They actually support quite a few green energy initiatives.

@orcoastgreenman

7 жыл бұрын

Barry Jordan - in this case they are probably targeting marketing to those looking for info on home heating.

@randalmoroski4423

3 жыл бұрын

Because Shell. Sell a lot oil in those clunky Ol’ barrels.... 🤣

now martha stewart has her work cut out for her: create house interior design involving 30 and 55 gallon barrels ,tubes,tunnels and woodpiles

How on earth are you going to clean the tail pipe?

Not all Masonry heaters are 15,000 dollars. We have Masonry Heaters starting out at a few thousand. Our company goal is to get high quality clean burning Heaters&Ovens into a much larger demographic and we are successfully achieving this goal.

@TheColombo83039

10 жыл бұрын

were can I get plaines

@EmpireMasonryHeater

10 жыл бұрын

Please call the office for more information 585 889 2002 Thanks

How can i clean those pipes after one year they are grounded under the sand and ciment......

@mikezeke7041

8 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they will condensate and rust

@mikezeke7041

8 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they will condensate and rust

@mikezeke7041

8 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they will condensate and rust

I worked at a stove factory. Some of the "certified stoves " were expensive crap.

Where do you get fire bricks in calgary ?

@AshleyLubyk

10 жыл бұрын

IXL Masonry or Brock White. IXLs are more expensive but less brittle.

I would mention to anyone wanting to learn more to also stop by www.permies.com they have an extensive forum full of all kinds of designs and ideas for RMS and Rocket mass heaters.

vid is saying it is clean , efficient burn - this is to do with air flow - and suggests complete combustion. Jake Trautman is right. Carbon monoxide is product of incomplete combustion when there is not such a high oxygen:fuel (wood) ratio , (so something problematic would have to have happened to the inflow of air, a blockage) . precautions are same thing as any other burner - ensure good ventilation in your home, and if you think it is needed, then use monitors for CO gas.

I'd love to have one, as $375 month utility bill has breaking me.

The truth is this dates in its basic essences to the Roman Empire. That had a floor heating system called a "Hypocaust"

I do believe that some have been successful at getting "permits" for their builds here in the "free" usa.

@jamesw6484

4 жыл бұрын

Free USA? That is just words! Even breathing costs us money here! Le alone living for free!!!!!😂😂😂🤨🤨😔😔

@jeremiahshine

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesw6484 thus the quotes around "free".

I can tell that these people who have talked for a long time don't really understand why it works as it does. Quite a few years ago ( 7 ) I put my brain to understanding how this works and how you can attain these efficiencies. I understand this process. How can you go from burning 6 cords of wood to maybe 1 to 1 1/2 for the same heat when the existing stoves may claim an efficiency of 80% lets say. There is something wrong. But I can tell you the rocket mass stove does just that.

@bcubed72

8 жыл бұрын

It basically "works" because it dumps its heat energy when it comes out of the inner flue and encounters the 55-gal drum. Not only does it "dump" its heat energy, but the (realtively) cooled air sinks, drawing the hot combustion air upwards. If you insulate the drum...you lose the draft. Ideally, you should insulate the inner flue, so that no heat is transferred to the gas in the 55 gal drum portion...I don't see them doing that here.

@darrelljacobjr2120

7 жыл бұрын

Existing wood stoves may claim to be 80% efficient, but they are just 80% MORE efficient than the last piece of junk ineffecient wood stove. Not 80% out of 100%.

@orcoastgreenman

7 жыл бұрын

Darrell Jacob JR - close... Actually, they are 80% efficient at combusting completely and turning the fuel's available hydrocarbons into heat... The fact that they send a huge portion of this heat out the chimney as 500+F exhaust to maintain stack effect has no bearing on the "efficiency" rating. It is in no way claiming that 80% of the embodied energy in that fuel before burning will wind up inside one's home. That (highly important to real world value) factor is not a part of the EPA wood stove "efficiency rating" program. It's all about cleanliness of combustion, and the rocket design has them beat on all fronts right up front in the super efficient primary and secondary combustion it creates. Well designed/built Rocket mass heaters create 90-95+% combustion efficiency for most of their burn cycle, AND scavenge most of the heat from the (MUCH) cleaner exhaust gasses, before sending them out of the building... And have a "real world efficiency rating" that is probably closer to 80%, wheras the "80% efficient" (at combusting the wood) stove in my living room probably has a real world efficiency (net energy from the wood burned kept inside the home) of closer to 20-30% I clarify this mainly for others as I know from other comments that you have an intimate knowledge of RMH's and their construction/design principles. I just wanted to explain the facts for people used to using normal wood stoves and talking about their "efficiency ratings", who have not experienced the real world difference between the two... Which stated simply is: A properly designed and homebuilt Rocket Mass Heater, burned a few hours a day, will keep you warm (70+F) 24/7, on anywhere from 1/4 to 1/10th the wood of a "high efficiency rating" modern wood stove.

@orcoastgreenman

7 жыл бұрын

bcubed72 - the dumping of heat energy at the barrel is the second half of a two stage thermosiphon... The first stage is the rocket's highly insulated burn tunnel and riser tube. At 3000+F in the most highly optimized designs, that 3-4 foot burn tube creates MUCH more stack effect than a normal chimney of that length due to the huge temperature differential... The barrel then shrinks these gasses back down to flow through the exhaust at only somewhat higher temp and velocity than the intake air being sucked past the fuel.

@darrelljacobjr2120

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's still 400ish*F coming out of the barrell...it's the mass that sucks the heat out to bring it down around 100*F.

There's only one problem with this and NO ONE ever addresses it. Why don't you burn outside air, instead of using warm air for combustion? Run a pipe from outside to give it the oxygen it needs? Otherwise, you'll have to allow fresh, COLD, air inside.

@jamesjordan8399

5 жыл бұрын

there are several iterations of rocket stoves some have outside air intakes . I have seen dozens of videos on rocket stove installations. The take away on air intakes, they need to be insulated and should have a good damper for control of the fire " very important" in case the fire has to be put out in a emergency. and a screen to keep critters out . If you have a very air tight dwelling you will certainly need out side air . and when the fire dies out, air needs to be turned off so out side air that comes in through cracks and crevices , and under doors wont be drawn so hard, cooling off the Dwelling , and the mass. The concept of the RMH is sound and if care is taken in design and construction. you will be rewarded with a system that is way greener than the old oil burner.one stove is indeed certified www.rocketheater.com/customer-reviews-and-special-thanks/

Молодцыыыы!

@Romazetti

8 жыл бұрын

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@marlennalange7227

7 жыл бұрын

Roman S. Aaq

Never seen these in developing countries tho

If you have either money or welding skills you could use much heavier metal for all of it and make a unit which would last a century and never corrode through or pinhole and leak. Use Schedule 40 pipe and mild steel plate for the whole thing including ductwork since unlike a conventional stove, the creosote is consumed by combustion. Use bolted top covers with gaskets on the barrel (and use stainless bolts) so you can clean it out every few years. Bonus is a plate steel top (if you have the bucks, go for half-inch!) has ample thermal mass on its own and if clean can be uses as a stovetop too. A lip around the edge wouldn't be hard to do. If you TIG you could make your barrel from a couple of stainless steel beer kegs, and you can also order stainless steel 55-gallon drums if you like a conventional barrel but want it to outlive your grandkids. See your local welding/fab shop. Show them designs, and they can translate into serious metal. If you visit welding forums you'll find some beastly stoves and shop heaters built by skilled pros.

@trailtrs1

5 жыл бұрын

Ob Fuscated well said and well thought out

How do you dispose of the ash ?

@Kai-Made

4 жыл бұрын

good in gardens, or fields. Very similar to pot ash or limestone that is used to help make your earth a little more basic. To clean it we use a extra long shop vac hose... makes the hole stove whistle...kinda cool.

Has anyone had any trouble getting insurance with one of these in your home? I cant imagine an insurance company wanting to insure a home with an uncertified, home-made woodburner. I would love to have one of these in my pole barn and/or greenhouse!.

How can I cook ?I need cooking rocketmass Heater

build one first in garden to perfect it mine took about 70 bricks, and a drum go to a ducting suppliers they will have different size flange connectors ,the reason there is no code approval for these stove is the same reason there would not be light bulbs now, no current code or approvals means no change , keep on burning nuclear fuel , oil or gas or electrickery which is made from the former at an efficiency of 25% if were lucky,but wood is also finite in supply you got to grow it to burn it

has anyone tried to make a rocket furnace to burn rubbish cleanly but on a larger scale?

@jamesjordan8399

5 жыл бұрын

Trash incinerators using a fluidized bed burns at 1700 plus degrees most generate steam which drive a turbine for electric generation . many maintenance issues from acids in metals , and plastics you would have those problems as well. there are safe guards on commercial applications that a simple rocket style stove wouldn't have. Not recommended .

How do you get the ash out?

@jamesjordan8399

5 жыл бұрын

most of the ash is in the burn chute. and can be scooped out before each fire . the fire burns much hotter than a regular wood stove as it enters the burn chamber and burns hot enough to vaporize creosote . not much is left .except gasses

"Flue gasses are contained by this barrel...through stove pipe and into a manifold and then through stove pipe that's inlaid in this ????? bench. So all this thermal mass is sucking the heat out of material, out of the flue gasses before it exits the building" WHAT???? Where do the gasses go? If they go into the clay, how do you know that they don't leach out?

@chop98

9 жыл бұрын

The gasses go into the burn chamber first to be burned up, snoopy. It's hot air/stream that travels along the thermal mass which has a pipe ran through it. I'd imagine this can't possibly be your first rocket heater video... is it? If it is, then by all means, do go and view more and the concept will be explained in detail to you. I've considered building one of these for some time now. Might even try one soon. :)

@snnnoopy

9 жыл бұрын

So, the carcinogens get burned up completely like an incinerator? I'm just trying to visualize this. How the carcinogens disappear without a trace. This is good survival information, especially if you have to hide to where no one can find you by the smoke.

@chop98

9 жыл бұрын

snnnoopy Correct. If you make your stove properly, the extra air intakes will act to feed the pipe and make a super burner. They're acting like afterburners. You can make 'em out of regular bricks for a small one in your backyard to try one. I would suggest some fire bricks though. I've watched so many videos and read on this stuff it isn't funny anymore. :) This concept seems to be proven. Besides... they use the same theory to burn off leftovers in coal factories too.

@daninwy2681

9 жыл бұрын

I've watched 50 or so videos, read the book and I don't think anyone has explained it until it occurred to me: the inner burn chamber must be insulated while the outer barrel is not. As the hot gas goes out of the top of the burn chamber and contact the cooler outer barrel, the gas will cool and therefore condense, or take up less space. As more heat ecsapes the outer barrel, the more the hot gas from the burn chamber will push. This creates the draft, or the force that moves the gas through the stove. So what you can do is have horizontal flue pipe coming from the bottom of the outer barrel that can travel 10 to 30 feet depending on the size and dimensions of the stove. So its just the change in temperature that creates the draft.

@frollard

9 жыл бұрын

***** I like the design but I'd be concerned with the 'relatively' cold flue building up creosote which could eventually block the flue or ignite causing a reversal of the flue combustion gases, venting into the house.

cool👍

question: all of the oxigen needed for the fire is taken from the inside breathable air, so, how to avoid to get killed by that on your living room? open a window? but, if you do that, you are producing heat at the same time you let the cold air in...thanks

@250tegra

4 жыл бұрын

@ricardo clemente - homes are not airtight (usually), air gets in via (eg) airbricks, gaps around doors and windows, gaps under the eaves, chimneys, etc. Many regular wood/coal/gas heaters have a similar air supply. But it is not ideal! In cold conditions it draws cold air indoors, so it is usually better to provide a separate exterior air intake vent for a heater. A home we had in the UK had a fireplace that drew air from under the floor, built around 90 years ago. It worked well, but it would eat around a ton of coal over a cold winter. All that heat going up the chimney....

COOL BEANs !

Think about what you just said there... " wood is also finite in supply you got to grow it to burn it". First off, you don't have to grow trees, in fact they did quite well left to grow on their own for millions of years. Secondly, something that grows naturaly is not a finite resource, it is the very pinnacle of sustainability as long as propper forrest management is practiced. Seeing as trees produce oxygen, absorb carbon and cool the environment we should probably keep them around anyhow.

How do you clean it? Just don't bulshit me. i see smoke/ash particles come from chimney.

@swedensy

5 жыл бұрын

I have MBS Super Thermo Magnum 21 kw 87% eff 5 angle chimney heat trapper.

Is there a way to use cement instead of mud/clay ?

@vincevegacustoms754

5 жыл бұрын

Have to mix it..straight cement blows up in pieces when heated..

@Kai-Made

4 жыл бұрын

@@vincevegacustoms754 there is a fire safe chimney cement mix that does not contain limestone...but it is hard to find. I ended up using a high silica containing fire clay...has been perfect for 3 year now.

Yay, Fiskars hatchet!!