great video! Peterson vs American lock and it looks like Peterson for the win.........for now

@macnutz4206

5 жыл бұрын

Its an arms race. :)

@erg0centric

4 жыл бұрын

American Lock was defeated by Master Lock

"Harder than woodpecker lips", I may have to steal that one.

Interesting how it works and the history about how the lock manufacturers and pick makers both in effect motivate each other to improve their products and innovate.

I made this tool today and was so disappointed it didn’t work. Now I realize I was trying to use it on a lock with the wafer

i find it funny that some people comment on these videos saying how it'd just be easier to destroy the lock in some crazy way. of course it would be. no need to get all high on yourself because you thought of that. these videos are about lockpicking as a hobby, not an actual criminal activity. this guy's actually made several videos warning consumers about certain brands and showing how to *prevent* criminals from breaking into things.

@DarkWoodPicks

7 жыл бұрын

Spyro the Dragon I also like how they think they're the first one to think of it. like an angle grinder to the padlock is a new idea. XD

@SlayerO013

5 жыл бұрын

Hey the destructive stuff can be fun........usually 1 time per lock. What would be even more fun would be to have all the people who jump straight to the nuke it, drill it, saw it, shoot it, launch it out of a catapult into a pool of acid solutions because it's easier, faster, blah blah blah supply all of the damned locks for demonstration purposes :D It makes you wonder why they don't have their own channels showing everyone the "better" way of doing things. I'm guessing they don't because paying for all those use once and discard locks would be about as fun as a barrel of ass cancer with a side order of perpetual ball ache.

Very cool video ,nice to see the whole process of busting through that wafer insert. Thanks !

Great video Bill. There's nothing better than seeing tools used in real world scenerios.

great videos thanks I picked my first padlock today it's a Abus (r) 45/65 I'm hooked for sure!!

After seeing this, I quickly went to my garage and looked for an OLD AMERICAN 700 Series lock I've had for years!! (I opened it up and removed the inside) its dated RFF (September 99) To my amazement, it had a wafer inside!!

That's one hell of a major recall. Even at my job we have those old locks still

ages ago i paid a locksmith to open one of those and the guy came with an angle grinder, i was like WTF, whatever go ahead because i was pressed for time. awesome vid i wish i saw this back then

@thatsimonguygmail

3 жыл бұрын

One of the funnier comments I saw on one of LockPickingLawyer's video where he opens a destroyed Kryptonite lock using a disc detainer pick in 28 seconds sort of fits this comment.. it goes something like "if locksmiths get paid to use an angle grinder then I am a locksmith"

thanks for showing the American age sheet bill,

Love these bypass videos.

I just did a video on how to mentally decode the American Lock date codes in seconds, easily, without the need for cheat sheets. It's a system I came up with. People seem to be enjoying it in the forums. anyways great video, just got my bypass tool in the mail today!

thanks for the vid im going to try it for my self..

finishing nails with custom ground tips work sometimes depending on how many wafers or the wafer material used

Gotta love engineering wars LOL. Team petterson for the win, bad guys for the win XD

@bosnianbill

6 жыл бұрын

👍😀😋

if I don't get anything else from this vid, I'll at least get "Harder than woodpecker lips" ha! Great vid though. I only found your channel a few days ago (same time I seriously started picking.) I've learned so much. Thank you.

Nice video-very good--btw/-Nice fingers for guitar playin'...

Very cool dude!

Thanks bill, yeah I'll consider that for lower Risk apps like grab n go robberies of stuff in truck bed. One other question. Is the six pin schlage that looks like the locks in this video same cylinder design?

After using the wafer breakers to gain access for the bypass, will the lock still function properly with the key? Will there be a noticeable tell that the lock has been tampered with?

man I used to have one of these locks, it was my favorite because it was solid compared to Master Lock.

mis respetos maestro de maestros

Great video nice I love your videos

Is this limited to NKR actuators or will this also work with NRK (key retaining)? I know the NKR actuator can be turned (because it has to allow return of key while lock is open) but I would think the NRK actuator would not be vulnerable.

Where's the video of how to improve the old locks?

Corbin was doing at least 30 years ago because the same problem with their deadbolts.

Can this bypass be eliminated by changing the lock to another brand lock with a different keyway?

I was thinking of using a bicycle spoke, to try and make one. Maybe that would work?

wow that was very interesting

Did you ever make the vid showing how to upgrade/retrofit old American padlocks to be more secure? I have a handfull of keyed-alike 1305's from the 80's I'd like to make a little more useable in today's world.

Hi bill I have been looking for the little round waffers that are found in these locks could you link me to a site that sells them

where can we have custom titanium wafers made? & how thick should they be?

Mr. Bill: I only "play" w/ Standard, Yale, etc., & shim cheap dial locks w/ shims I've made from heavy black paper clip steel & tin snips. (it's surprising the curve in the big paper clips almost matches the curve of the shackle!) I plan to buy proffesional "shims" soon. My REAL question to U is: "R a set of PADLOCK (not auto) {Jigglers} worth spending the money on"? I would buy from a quality dealer to get the best steel, but DO THEY WORK? I have snap gun I've never been able to pop a lock w/.

Thanks for replies. Is the ABUS 83/55-300 worthless with the schlage C cylinder? Can a different cylinder be used in that body? Zero bitter body is cheap. Cylinder seems weak point.

A: Is American Lock owned by Master Lock now? If they are the brand is doomed anyways. B: I appreciate your level of commitment to making the video and having the proper tools to do so but couldn't this lock be picked or simply cut as an easier solution?

@isabellam1936

2 ай бұрын

Master lock bought American lock in 1970.

Will the Abus padlock bypass driver from Sparrow work on these American locks

I have a bunch of Master lock pro series #6230 locks that resemble those American locks. I'am curious if those can be opened the same way???.HMMMM gonna give it a try.

@AquaTech225

4 жыл бұрын

Did that work?

I have an old American padlock that is a Series 600. Do those date codes work for it? If they do then it was made in April of 1977. Can't find the key anywhere :(

How does the Master No. 230 compare to the American 700 series?

as an fyi US General (a harbor freight brand) is a copy of the American locks and do not have the wafer to protect the cam

What kind of locks can you use bypass tools on? I just started lockpicking a couple of weeks ago and my uncle gave me his old set that had some bypass tools with it.

@makua_aloha9739

8 жыл бұрын

+bosnianbill their a small key set

@makua_aloha9739

8 жыл бұрын

+bosnianbill I'm pretty sure I saw a set that looked like mine in a video of yours a while back that you said were skeleton keys

Will this method work on the American 5200 US stamp locks as well?

Anyone knows if the bypass will work for the 5200 model? Ofcourse it has the wafer. But the cam seems the same. So if the wafer breaker was used what’s to keep the bypass from working on the 700 model the 1100 and the 5200? Any info is appreciated

I have the same lock. Thought it's a off the shelf brand lock call Cod security.

Are the puck locks just as easy to bypass? I have one on my trailer and I need to know if I need to secure it better. Thank you

@bosnianbill

6 жыл бұрын

Most pucks have the "quarter moon actuator" and are not vulnerable to this bypass.

@Antoniocool86

6 жыл бұрын

What do you mean quarter moon actuator? That makes them not vulnerable to this bypass?

@aquabono

5 жыл бұрын

If chinese puck lock then it is trash 4pin easy pick. If oem Italian or German copy then u are good to go.

@stevee7774

4 жыл бұрын

Antoniocool86 - The man said “and are not vulnerable to this bypass.” Geez...

Could the waffer made out of stainless be switched to a titanium waffer ? Would that make the punching tools useless?

@mirkoobradovic3426

Жыл бұрын

Probably yes but then the cost would be like some monster Assa...

The 994831 Schlage is model I meant in lower question.

Does anyone know what year the redesign occurred?

can u tell me how to pen a lock with a square key hole

Perfect

I'm waaaaaay late lol but if the shield insert is only .10 can't you just wack the driver right through it?

Face plant. The secret war rages on while all the rest of us go about our business (without a care). I'm sure glad you are stationed at the front line :) Thank you.

12 years later and I’m still snapping the flags off every brand I’ve tried. My sparrows actually got stuck inside a Abus and I no choice but to break it to get it out. I’m a locksmith and not heavy handed or lacking a light touch. Any idea what I’m doing wrong sir?

Where can I get these tools

Yes but what if you wanted to enter a space more than once and not leave a clue? If the lock is cut,then the owner/someone would know something is amiss and take better precautions. With the wafer already defeated,you could come and go as you wish.

So where’s that video where you improve them?

Thanks

Does anybody know if this tool works on masterlock pro series padlocks. I have many pro 6230 locks and would like to know if this works on them. Thanks.

@AquaTech225

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know anything about that lock but Ild love if someone would chime in to your question. Curious if it defeats any others

what year was cut off for improvement??

@zhekagrune6986

9 жыл бұрын

Good question! I couldn't find the answer.

Thank you but iam trying and can’t open my lock

smart engineer? the shit should of been in the lock in the first place. and then to add a super thin wafer instead of hardened steel is completely stupid.

Wow

Two problems with this approach and why AL wafer essentially solves the issues. If you are a criminal and you could just bypass the lock that left little or no trace of you entering but beating that breaker tool in is just one step shy of bolt cutters. Sure the lock is still visually intact but any smith would know what happened. Also, what criminal wants to sit there and beat on a lock in a hallway or a back yard in the dark for 5 min with a hammer and a tool, much easier just to cut the lock.

Where do i find. These tools

@AquaTech225

4 жыл бұрын

Peterson website

I also admire your defence about repeted re-entry to the location through this by pass method but lets be honest here if they want in that bad they would breech any lock put on the the location and only mutipule layers of security such as cameras and motion sensors would turly solve the problem.

Could you not have picked it by now using the breaker seems far longer than just picking

That breaker kit seems quite expensive. I’d almost rather pick the lock.

@Novers

5 жыл бұрын

The place I work has a whole bunch of theses installed (keyed alike) Bypass Lock Switch cores (or locks ) Take home Make key Not really realistic but still

Can you put more than one like 4 of them or is then not room for that?

@deadguy237

9 жыл бұрын

joblessalex ya so mad I was just askin if it was posible to put more than one wafer

@dtrotteryt

9 жыл бұрын

Joshua Bliffen You can put more than one in there. American just ships them with one. Watch ep 48 from BosnianBill to see details.

@deadguy237

9 жыл бұрын

dtrotteryt thanks i saw it after reading your reply. very good to know and a must do

Woodpecker lips. Lmfao🤣

@scrabbytoy1 next time I see one of these I have to remove ill cut it off with my 42" bolt cutters that stay in the van rather than pick it just for you... It's a great lock but not an abloy 362 or something monster like that.

Is the way to prevent this to buy abloy protec? Lol

.mmmmmm yeah

I rather simply pic it and every one I can see out there

so chinese and american locks have build in flaws, i wonder are there similar features on european locks?

U must make alot of people angry

I'll tell you why. Those shackles are super thick and I'm 99.9999999% sure made of haredened steel. 1.) They don't make "standard" BOLT cutters that will cut that lock shackle and 2.) 10 guys don't have enough muscle in their asses to cut that schacle. Now, that being said, I HAVE seen "hydraulic" rebar cutters that'll cut 1" diameter in about 15 seconds but, A.) they're noisey and B.) you have a table to work on. Best to plug in a big cut-off 1/2 HP saw & throw sparks everywhere for an hour.

pick

Perfect thief- school.

@bosnianbill

6 жыл бұрын

Better practice sitting naked on an upright corncob then. Think of that as the thief school graduate course, because all thieves eventually get caught and sent to prison. I'll leave it to your imagination what lessons you'll be preparing yourself for with the corncob. There's a saying: Don't do the crime if you can't sit on a corncob - or something like that...

@makroart7831

6 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't you get more clicks, if you show how to steal cars, in details? Why not?

@bosnianbill

6 жыл бұрын

Forget cars. Electronically coded key fobs, built-in GPS trackers, etc. Only the stupidest thieves steal cars. You sound like you're more suited for armed robbery. perhaps even banks. Study up on some of the gun channels so you'll know what to do. Prison reform was just passed today, so you're good to go. Some prisons even let you finish HS with a GED, and even some community college classes. Free food. Free cable. Free room. You'll like everything except the showers. Good luck, stud.

@Sydneywide1

2 жыл бұрын

@@bosnianbill Too funny. 😂

@mirkoobradovic3426

Жыл бұрын

@@bosnianbill 🤣🤣🤣

Bad day?

Hey I am manufacturer of all padlock in india

hey bill may i have some locks because i am new

Wouldn't a grinder be quicker!

@__BERSERKER__

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah. But, a grinder makes noise and sparks. What happens when the sentry hears your grinder then perforates you with a AK47. This stuff is serious business you can always make unlimited noise. Also, if someone hears you coming they can start destroying evidence. AKA, flushing the kilos down the toilet. People like Bosian Bill are hired when seconds matter and, there can be no mistakes.

@podjo2k9

6 жыл бұрын

Dats a stupid comment we are lock pickers not clowns

BULL$HIT!! I have an American with no wafer, the cam WON’T turn because it CAN’T!! When those two piece are snug together like a puzzle piece, one piece can’t move without the other piece moving. So if one side is locked, the other side can’t turn. This is bull

@Ethan-zz3ht

10 ай бұрын

You have a new lock

@nasty613

7 ай бұрын

u don’t seem to know what you’re talking about

Get a new camera

@bosnianbill

3 жыл бұрын

Sure! Send me one. In case you haven't figured it out yet, NOTHING is ever perfect in life. No equipment EVER works perfectly. Since making this video EIGHT years ago technology has improved and I upgraded to the Sony RX1000V, a$1200 investment. Still, it occasionally screws up and mis-focuses, so while it may be a bit better and record at a higher framerate, life STILL ain't perfect. Thanks for your contribution to the locksport body of knowledge...😀

@pokerplayer6495

3 жыл бұрын

@@bosnianbill Ha awesome! I love your videos but my walled hates them. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and inspiring a new generation. My son and I are running around the house picking locks.

Total junk. Does not work. My lock was made in 1987. No washer inside. Took it apart a dozen times. Ground the sharp corners off the cams. Sharpened the lead edge of the tool. Pushed and twisted and jammed tool to the point of breakage. Won't go in the last 2mm. This is just an infomercial for a tool that doesn't work.

@stevenivie221

2 жыл бұрын

No, its just operator error. I know because for half a day i felt the same way, then i watched him a cpl more times. Went over my hole punching a little more. And was more light handed woth the bypass tool ams it finally wemt in and worked. I did it a bunch of times after that and each time i got the bypass tool swt a little quicker. Dont be so quick to judge, just cause you had issues doesnt mean its automatically junk

Good grief. You better have a bunch of handcuff keys on your person when you do this as it takes so long every cop in the neighborhood will be standing there watching you. This is fine for working in a locksmith shop, but how many criminals are gonna fart around taking all that time to defeat the lock? Answer: none. They will take along a portable Roto Zip with a metal cutting wheel and that shackle will be gone in a matter of seconds. This video may be technically interesting, but it is real world useless. Bottom line is ANY lock can be defeated with the proper tools and equipment.

@AquaTech225

4 жыл бұрын

U must be on the “Slow” side I take

It's a damn shame you can't buy something without some motherfukers wanting to find ways to rip you off the company that made the original tool to open that lock should be sued and put out of business but then again criminals will always find a way

Angle grinder the shit out of him