UPDATE : JUNE 20 2019 : I have been extremely slow to upload this summer as my job has taken me out of state. HOWEVER, the $45 Tubeless system is still holding air strong! I have not had to inflate either tire at all. So for 4 months in..... holding its pressure just as good as a tube!

Slime or Stan’s “No Tubes” into the tubes has worked on 3 bikes now for me.

Great vid...I did this on my AT...6 months ago...no problems..no air leaks...I put my wheels on a tyre balancer as I was working on my own....also watch the tape as it will try to pull you to one side as you are applying it!....as once on not easy to take off very sticky!.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Sy Jones good info! Thanks for commenting!

nice job, pinch flats are my problem when riding a big bike hard, especially on the rocks, so I have been considering potential solutions, this seems worth a try for the money, I would add that if chemically compatible with the tape, plumbers goop is much stronger and tougher than silicon, also a good way to install the tape is to put the wheel in a static wheel balance device, which makes spinning while controlling the wheel easier, I use it when installing the tubliss tape on dirt bike wheels, again thanks for the info and hopefully it will hold up to some big hits.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

pearltc off-road will be the big test! We have some gnarly rocky trails around here I’ll test her out on and post an update!

Great video! Would love to see how it holds up after you’ve taken it into the hills for a few days… looking fwd to the update. Cheers!

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

sean mortaz me too! I’ll post updates!

@MikeEpps72

5 жыл бұрын

Me too. Interested in seeing how that big 21 inch front wheel holds up after some abuse off-road. Great video.

@TrackDayChamps928

4 жыл бұрын

Been a few months but Ive been able to romp the bike pretty hard with this setup. Rocky hill climbs, snow, mud, dirt roads, pavement.... its held up great. The temps here in northern Az vary a lot now that its snowing so Ive had to add a pound or two of air here and there.... other than that... still solid.

Great vid,thanks for sharing. Can the conversion be made for F800GS A and what size would the nipple be. Thanks.

Good video, you just forgot to check spoke Torque first. I did a similar conversion 14 months and 25,000km ago and had no issues. Swapped tires thee times meanwhile. Have a tubeless punkture kit on the bike but for long trips I still carry a tube if something goes wrong or I can't seat the beat with my portable pump.

You can add Slime to improve the seal and puncture proof the tyres.

hello guy ! sorry if i make a enlish spelling fault ( i'm a poor french men !!!) . Really nice vid !! what it should be interresting is to make a feed back in 2-3 month to check and see how is sealent in the rim , if it's still airproof, if they is no leak. It can be airproof now and not in few months. Do you use the sealing tape for the front wheel and then you cut the width at the good measurement ? Keep well

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

thierry travers I will update as I ride the ride! Yes, used the same width tape to save on cost. Appreciate lies the tape and then trimmed it with a razor blade.

is that intro psycosocial nintendo??? that sh!t is great! thanks for the vid

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

TORN MOTO haha it is!

Many thanks for the great video.. Did you use the same tape for both wheels? Cheers.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

john Hamilton to keep the cost down, I did use the same tape. I just trimmed it down once in the wheel.

Dude thanks for showing the products involved! I know others have asked, but hows the pressure? Any leakage?

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Wheelie Perd it’s been a couple weeks not and no leakage whatsoever. I inflated them to 60psi and let them set for about an hour with no drop. Then I lowered them to a normal street pressure with no leaks. I haven’t been able to take her off road yet though.... soooo we will see

Nice video, thanks for the info. I have a 2018 AT that I only have a couple thousand miles on. Did you find yourself changing many flats? Or, was this a strictly proactive mod? I haven't had any issues with tubes yet, but I've been 90% road so far. Trying to decide if I want to do this when I buy my next set of tires.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

wardons i have never had a flat with the AT yet. When I’m off-road, 90% of the time I’m in the middle of nowhere. Last thing I wanted to be doing would be repairing/replacing a tube when I could plug a tire and be back on the road in minutes. In theory haha. We will see how it works.

could we do the same for crf250 rally and if yes what type of valve stems and tape sizes would be needed for front and rear rims. thanks

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Alper Unsan I don’t see why not. As long as you’re not deflating some crazy amount I don’t see why it wouldn’t work well for you. The valve stem PN listed in the description should work just fine for all motorcycle wheels.... if not I’m pretty sure Napa would exchange/ give your money back.

Great how-to!! Although it'd be good to see how it holds up against time. I've got one question regarding your tires: I see they're the Pirelli Scorpion Rally, are they the STR model or just the Rally ones? They look great!

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

alexahijado I will definitely post an update as I ride more. I’ve put a few hundred miles on them so far and even deflated them down to 25psi on a 200 mile off-road trip with no issues. The tires are Shinko 804 front and 805 rear. They did great off-road this weekend.... especially for the price point.

You basically have done the same as i do for mountain bike tubeless conversions. It should stand up to any type riding you do. The 1 drawback i see us the front tyre could blow in off the bead if you run too low a pressure. But rear should be ok. I even run my 4inch fatbike tyres tubeless and low pressure through pretty rough type ground and never get punctures. The only concern is your front rim not having a good wide bead surface.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Jason Spollen good to know! That’s my concern as well. How low can I safely deflate the wheel before running into issues. I had the front and rear down to 25psi this weekend on some gnarly off-road. Held up great. I think I’ll have to just keep pushing the limit :/

@jasonspollen8998

5 жыл бұрын

@@TrackDayChamps928 i used to use a tubeless system on an Yamaha 450 enduro a few years back. The product was called Tubeliss. And i could run low pressure like 14-15psi easy without any problem.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

How did you like the Tubliss system? When I was working at the local shop we installed them on a few bikes..... one owner didn’t like them and had us remove them. I don’t have any personal experience with them though.

@jasonspollen8998

5 жыл бұрын

@@TrackDayChamps928 No problems other than i had to watch the pressure. But thsts normal on dirt bikes to check pressure before every ride. I use sealant in my mountain bikes but i never did in dirt bikes. Possibly sealant with tubeliss is an idea.

Just a question: what abt the temperatures? Would you suggest to ride at highways speed fully loaded 2 ppl and the luggages? Or the high temperatures inside the wheels may damage the sealing?

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Riding TusCanY that’s good question! I haven’t read anything as far as an temperature range for safe usage of the tape. I don’t think there would be issues and if there were issues, say sealing tape melting, I believe it would be a slow leak and not a blow out. Something noticeable before a dangerous failure. Would be interesting to see how warm the actual rim gets in the riding conditions you mention.

Nice and cheap tip! Can I tork the spoke after put silicone?

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Moto Vlog Perú the silicone is just a barrier between the spoke nipples and the 3m sealing tape. You “should” be able to adjust/tighten the spokes without risking losing air. Buuuuut I have not tested this yet haha!

@jossschaus3363

5 жыл бұрын

@@TrackDayChamps928 hahaha. I will try!!

Great "how to" video. Im going to try this on my tiger800. One question though, After this mod, do I have to buy special tubeless tires or would the stock tubed tires work the same? Thanks.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

JE NX good question, I should have covered it in the video. Yes, once the conversion is done, you’ll need to run a tubeless tire. Most tires will have TT (tubed type) and tubeless versions do you shouldn’t have any problems finding a tire you like!

I have heard reports of the use of tubless tires with heavy duty tubes provide good durability, what are your thoughts on tubless tires used with tubes and not going full sealed n tubless?

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Aaron Spicer I’ve heard you can run a tube inside a tubeless tire... but never in the context of creating a tougher, less likely to puncture, setup. More of a last ditch effort to keep air in a brutally destroyed tire that can’t be fixed with a plug.

No more grommer channel?

How would you tighten a loose spoke without breaking the silicone?

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Ben Zahm after installing the sealing tape.... I’m not sure the silicone plays a huge role in preventing air from escaping.... more of a barrier to protect the sealing tape from puncture from the spoke nipples. Buuuuut I won’t really know until I have to do it. If/when I have to adjust a spoke... I’ll post and update.

Pro tip straight from 3m: Ideal application temperature for the 4412n tape is 70-100°F.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Pro tip.... 3m didn’t have 60mm in stock.

@nihonnewbie

5 жыл бұрын

@@TrackDayChamps928 Got mine from Zoro, thanks for the link! How much did you trim it down for the front?

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

I ended up only needing to trim about 1/4 inch. I aligned the sealing tape so that one side was where I wanted it and the other side would have excess. Once on the rim I used the razor blade and cut the excess off, peeling it away in one long string.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Zoro was the only place I found that had the width I wanted. Ideally ordering from 3m would be great.... but didn’t work in my case.

@nihonnewbie

5 жыл бұрын

@@TrackDayChamps928 Nice, thanks again for making this video despite being sick!

Hi looks a good idea but what about spoke maintenance the nipples would need to turn might break seal . Just a thought , as said pls send another vid after some tests 👍👍

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

stevenf67 good question. I’m thinking the silicone is only a barrier between the spoke nipples and the sealing tape. I believed that if the spokes need to be adjusted that the sealing tape itself will not be affected and will still seal just fine. Buuuuut only time will tell! Went off-roading this weekend. Lowered the air pressure and the tires did great all day!

@stevenf67

5 жыл бұрын

Dirtnap Adventures Nice one 👍 other way would be to patch the spoke area then tape up so it would allow the nipple to turn without breaking the seal but it’s a good start might need some tweeking as all good ideas do , thanks for sharing 👍 Steven

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

That’s definitely another way to do it. I have seen a couple videos where riders did use the tape method. That’s the good thing about DIY, you get to do whatever and see how it works!

do you think its possible to use rim locks and possibly be able to run on low pressure on offroad situations?

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

ripmax333 not too sure. The concern seems to be busting the bead with a low pressure setting. If running a super low pressure with a tuned type setup the risk is a pinch flat.... with a tubeless you risk pushing the tire off the bead. Tough call. I don’t lower my pressures very much on my tires. Never had a traction or ride issue that called for it. With this setup.... I’d definitely be a bit cautious if lowering the pressure drastically.

@ripmax333

5 жыл бұрын

Dirtnap Adventures and do you think this mod can work with tube tires too?

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

From what I have read and been told.... you would NOT want to do this mod and then run a TUBE TYPE tire without a tube. If you do this conversion you need to run a tubeless tire.

I had to like just for hearing Slipknot.

А спиццы как тянуть потом?!

That's going to make it really annoying to replace your spokes...

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Basilton nahhhhhh. I can use a tire machine now to pull the tire in 10 seconds, Nice sharp razor blade to cut around whichever spoke and then remove/replace the spoke. Simple patch similar to around the valve stem and done! Plus, the need for a quick and efficient flat repair far outweighs the unlikeliness of repairing spokes. To each their own though!

5 euro con SIKAFLEX dal 2009 .

silicone... no use 3m marine adhesive and sealant!!!!!!!

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

jjustj you can really use anything you feel will protect the 3m sealing tape from the spoke nipples. The 3m sealing tape is the barrier that is keeping the air inside the tire.... the silicone just covers the heads of the nipples to prevent them from wearing through the 3m tape.

Good job ruining it now you can’t adjust your spokes

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Uhhhhh yup! You still can! The silicone only acts as a barrier to protect the 3m sealing tape from the spoke nipples. Turning (adjusting) a spoke nipple will only move the spoke nipple within the silicone leaving the 3m sealing tape undamaged and free to continue doing its job of sealing/ preventing the air from escaping.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the click and comment though! If your ever in Az, Let’s ride!

I understand the desire to reduce wheel weight, but don't get why you would want to limit your ability to run low pressure offroad. Unless you're an adventure bike owning fairweather road rider afraid to change a tube. That said, if you're going to do it you might as well do it cheap I guess.

@TrackDayChamps928

5 жыл бұрын

Guess we can’t all be badasses like you....

@Tolga.T.

5 жыл бұрын

You can easly repair your tire when its tubeless, but pain in the ass when you have tube in it.