if you're not comfortable carrying a 1911 cocked & locked, a 1911 is not for you....

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

hiking in rough terrain is very different than flat concrete though. Terrain and situation need to be factored in

@motorgearhead

2 жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures - I understand your perception that carrying cocked and locked in rough terrain could be a safety concern. However, the general consensus by 1911 experts is the grip safety and slide lock safeties are more robust than you are giving credit. Carrying cocked and locked does take some mental adjustment to alter the Perception the pistol is more susceptible to unintentional discharge then a double action or single action striker fired weapons. There are a huge number of 1911s out there and you just really don’t hear about unintentional discharges that didn’t involve someone’s hand being on the grip and finger on the trigger. I went through the same emotional process myself. I in fact tried to see if I could get the hammer to drop by manipulating the trigger & tapping on an unloaded cocked and UNLOCKED pistol that didn’t have the grip safety activated. I could not get the pistol to drop the hammer without the pistol being in my hand and my finger on the trigger. This pistol is a colt 70 series that has about a 2.5 lb trigger pull. A good holster with positive retention should take care of the concern over the pistol coming out of the holster accidentally from contacting terrain. Again, if you’re not comfortable carrying condition one (cocked & locked) then don’t. But I would Choose a different firearm then carrying a 1911 with a hammer down on a round in the chamber (which i’m under the impression actually is dangerous in some 1911 pistols). Again, I’m no expert. It’s ok if you don’t agree. But I don’t carry a pistol that’s not “service ready” as I’m concerned I may not have time to cock a hammer or rack a slide. But to each there own…. Thanks for all your videos. You have provided some very informative content 👍 1911 condition of readiness article: www.usacarry.com/carrying-cocked-locked/

@rolandsmith4394

Жыл бұрын

​@@JepsOutdoorAdventuresI've carried a full sized Springfield 1911 on six 50 mile, one day hilkes in Yellowstone, south central Montana, and book cliffs, Utah.

@kentwilliams3326

Жыл бұрын

Cocked and Locked is fine with with a Series 80 Colt style 1911 or when carried in a thumb break holster that is designed for cocked and locked carry, such as a El Paso Saddlery #2.

@MrNightwalker66

Жыл бұрын

How about just carrying fnx tactical da/sa plus its high capacity

I e carried my 1911 .45 acp as my edc for 34 years. Excellent pistol and 1000% reliable

BTW,the 1911in 45acp was first tested prior to it’s adaptation by the US Army on live horses,mules,and cattle.The US Army still had a calvary at that time and shooting the enemy’s mount out from under them was very common.The weapon had to be capable of one shot drops on large animals as well as humans.It’s well known that the 1911 passed the testing trials with flying colors.

@iaidagger8278

Жыл бұрын

Yes Sir indeed!!!! 45ACP all the way !!!!

@Olympic_TryAthlete

Жыл бұрын

They were crucifying people? Or did you mean “cavalry?”😊

@iaidagger8278

Жыл бұрын

@@Olympic_TryAthlete He is tal King of cavalry for sure!!

@djdrack4681

Жыл бұрын

There is a massive difference between just mass of the mammal and penetration Grizzly and even black bear fat can be 3-8in thick, and then cranial plates can stock even .40 s&w rounds. You can shoot the bear 10 times but if they're barely getting past the bone/fat, he'll be injured and really angry.

@michaelheiss4456

Жыл бұрын

The cows were shot with about 5 rounds to drop them with side hits !

Thanks for making this video. The .45 is likely an ideal round for carry in areas where the potentially dangerous animals are limited to the less than gigantic size such as black bear, mountain lion, and perhaps hogs. I've heard rumor that the more likely dangerous predator you can run into is other men. So, the .45 even in a solid non-expanding round would also work pretty well also as an anti-personnel round which has been proven through history.

@bobgordon1754

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter what gel test or other test show about what works best Since 1911 and even going back to 1873 the .45 has killed thousands of people in armed conflict and almost no one has griped about the .45 not being effective. That btw is with hard ball, not bonded hollow points.

@crawdadlando4053

Жыл бұрын

There’s a surgeon in a bullet wound seminar who brought up a 45 acp not penetrating the sternum and stopping 1/2” from the heart. Rare case I’m sure but in a 45 I’ll take my ball ammo.

@_k911

Жыл бұрын

@@crawdadlando4053or just get Hornady Critical Duty.

We carried 1911 A1s in the Army. We loved them.

A 1911 is safest carried cocked and locked(hammer back and thumb safety on). In this condition it is safer than a Glock because of on a 1911 you put the safety back on before reholstering. It is dangerous to carry a 1911 with a round in the chamber and putting the hammer down on a live round let alone pulling the hammer back before shooting unless you are in a Hollywood movie. Anyway,good video. Very informative on 45ACP for the trail. Just what I was looking for, and you are right about Glock like guns(including M&P and Sig and such), lighter weight, more rounds, simple, durable, reliable. If you have a 1911 though, make sure its a good one and you’ll be just fine.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

I've been carrying the 1911, that was used in the video, alot during this hunting season cocked and locked and so far so good! Thanks for watching

@broot1375

Жыл бұрын

If your not carrying a 1911 in the cocked n locked position then its obvious you are untrained and uninformed about the 1911 manual of arms. Oh and it's also obvious that you sit down to piss

@cobia224...

Жыл бұрын

Spot on

Very informative video. The 45acp is my favorite pistol caliber. It is a proven caliber and in my opinion the best cartridge ever made.

The 45 ACP is a very versatile caliber, especially in an auto loader. For hunting, I use Magnums, but for general carry, the 45 is easier to carry, conceal, shoot well, and is versatile enough to fill many rolls. Thanks for the video.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

I agree, it's really grown on me. And thank you!

@michaelestrada2772

Жыл бұрын

This is a huge selling point in its favor over the 9mm. I wish more people would consider this when debating which of the two is better.

@mikerobinson8734

8 ай бұрын

It’s for that reason I ditched the 10mm in favor of the 45. Versatility. I love 10mm but it is not ideal for concealed carry or personal protection outside the woods. More power than necessary, more recoil and blast. The 45 is a great round for both woods and the hoods, I load my Glock 21 with 45 super 255 grn Hardcast in the woods and switch to hollow points for a low pressure, subsonic easy to control self defense cartridge with proven man stopping power.

@Ruger44Redhawk

6 ай бұрын

Not to picky, but I believe all reloading manuals refer to the cartridge as the .45 auto not the .45 acp. .45 acp obviously referring to the pistol. Although, I could be wrong on that.

@Ruger44Redhawk

6 ай бұрын

​@@mikerobinson8734Yes. For the mountains I always have a revolver. But, I would feel safe with my 1911. The .45 auto cartridge is excellent for soft targets, intended for a big hole, lots of damage and shock. I prefer the .45 auto over most calibers for two legged self defense. Although, the .38 Special is another great option. I can fit the .38 +p LCRx in my pocket with ease and no print. But I love the sound of that big .45 auto and recoil is minimal out of an all-steel 1911.

Hey jep good Job man. Yes 45acp is perfect choice for some one to carry in the outdoors is their better yes . But has 45acp have must history of bring a stopper yes. With moder day bullet hard to beat. Even Hogan reloading maual had cool articles on 45acp useing all copper bullets.

I just discovered your channel and subscribed immediately. You have a mature, informed, no-nonsense presentation we older folks appreciate. I do have to screech at you a bit, though. A 1911 is very safe to carry cocked and locked. That's how it was designed and is nothing to be nervous about. True, I'm an "older gentleman" who grew up on semi-autos with thumb safeties and that's my comfort zone, but re-holstering my striker-fired auto with no external hammer or tactile thumb safety finally creeped me out enough to switch back to John Browning's invention for daily carry. It takes just a nanosecond to sweep the safety off during the draw. To each his own, but the safeties on a 1911 are not a bad thing.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, I try lol! And thank you for the info, so far I've carried it cocked and locked while hunting and no problems at all. I agree with you: I like having a safety on my gun, it feels weird not having one now. Thank you again, and I greatly appreciate your support!

very nicely done study...thank you

@LUVDOGS1954

2 жыл бұрын

Hey youngster, I have carried the 1911 cocked and locked for 50 years, and it was in fact used in an encounter. The huge advantage of the 1911 over the Glock is the trigger. John Browning designed the C&L technique, and he is way smarter than you and me! It just takes some experience. Simply use a pancake style holster with a thumb break. Thanks again.

I like my revolvers but there's something special about the 1911 and the 45ACP. Thank you for putting this video together and sharing. Recently I've been considering the 45 Super within a 1911 platform for woods carry. I have a video request, all about the 45 Super with testing. Thanks for your time.

Oi from Orygun! I'm a fan of the 45 Super, Outdoorsman. (255 Grain projectile.) Great Big Foot medicine!! I use the H&K USP 45 pistol.

Good job. I’m glad to see you referencing TKO factor over muzzle energy. A .357 with 110 grain bullets will have plenty of muzzle energy, but that’s not going to help much on a tough critter. Definitely no FMJ RN’s they might penetrate well, but they just don’t do much damage along the way. I actually prefer a revolver loaded with heavy wide-nosed cast bullets that wouldn’t necessarily feed through an auto.

@bobgordon1754

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love them.

This is my first time experiencing your channel. I love your explanations and approach to teaching and sharing your knowledge. Subscribed 🎉

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 ай бұрын

I'm glad to hear that, thank you!

Please continue your tests, very informative. Could you also please test the 450 SMC by DoubleTap? The hardcast 255 grain ammo should be very capable!

Well done 👍

Very good information. Thinking of a 1911 with 45 super springs in it. I hear 460 Roland might be much for a steel 1911. In fact makes sense to use a heavy polymer gun because it will flex with the power. Just what I’ve heard on another video

@dustyrhodes2717

Жыл бұрын

This is true unless you get the Rowland V2 recoil damper. It will help absorb the recoil. I had my 6.3” long slide Dan Wesson converted to .460 Rowland. With the weight of the long slide you do not need a comp. If I had a regular slide I would just go super. You only need to swap out a few parts to do so and no ugly comp is required.

I had to put a 20lbs recoil spring in my 1911 for the buffalo bore, (as recommended by buffalo). After that it liked to stove pipe with the federal 230g ball ammo. But it's a great gun and the buff ammo runs good in it with that spring.. If its all you got, its all you got. better than a stick indeed.

regarding cast bullet weights... I have some molds that drop bullets that are several grains light or heavy depending on the lead mixture thats being used.o

Valuable information!! Great data and great job.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

24 күн бұрын

Thank you kindly, I'm glad to hear that!

Just ran across your channel. Thanks for being scientific in your analyses. I have black bear around here, and I carry a 1911 45 with hardball in the woods for 'bear repellent'. I can make more hits faster via reloads than with a revolver. The 1911 is MADE to BE carried 'cocked and locked'. You have THREE safeties! Grip, Thumb and your brain... Frankly, you couldnt give me a plastic striker fired pistol! Compare the triggers between DA revolver, striker fired and a 1911. Clean and short like a SA revolver. Trigger pull is a major factor in accuracy. Jerry

@latigomorgan

Жыл бұрын

I carried a 1911 cocked-and-locked as my EDC for 25 yrs. Never had cause to be nervous for the very reasons stated above. But, someone did give me a plastic striker fired pistol, a Springfield XD45 which I found to be lighter, and has a 13+1 capacity and is still lighter when fully loaded than my 1911 with 8+1. With 2 spare mags, I'm at 40 rounds on my person of .45ACP. Why carry that much? Why not? But, at the range, it is the 1911 that still puts a smile on my face when I shoot it. It hasn't been retired, and I recently rebuilt it as the springs were getting worn. The plastic fantastic just doesn't make me smile the same way, even though it is reliable and accurate enough. I guess you could say the 1911 has a soul?

@iamnobody9542

Жыл бұрын

@@latigomorgan Hi, Lat - Frankly you couldnt GIVE me one of those plastic matel toy guns! The main problems are light striker strikes, and a long trigger pull like a DA revolver. I REALLY like the short, crisp SA trigger on the 1911, Greatly aids in accuracy. (40 misses dont count...). Proper Maintenance Matters. For a full size 1911, you need to replace the main recoil spring ever 1,000 rounds, and the trigger and firing pin springs every 2,000. On a compact, every 500. Proper Lube, too. I like Jep, that kid does a GOOD job! Jerry

The .45 /230 ball rounds from a 1911 was the best car door and windshield rounds that we tested. The other rounds were .357 Magnums (all weights from 110 grain to 180 grains) and did not equal the .45ACP, but rather shed their jackets, especially when fired at different angles through the wind shield.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, thank you for sharing!

@lifeveteran9766

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, after a hunting experience where a white tail shot with a .308 played possum and jumped up just as we approached and it took four .45s (JHPs) to finish him. Then we took a vehicle defense shoot course. Same basic results you reported, so I now load my mags with alternating HST & RN to cover all defensive bases. Strictly ball for hikes in woods / hunting backup.

@danwhyte3524

Жыл бұрын

I agree that's interesting not sure I would have expected that with the 45 ACP! Anyway I appreciate you doing these tests man they're all very interesting and I enjoy watching them, thanks, take care!!

1911 have way more internal safeties and actually have an external safety for cocked and locked. Way safer than a glock. More ammo is the only upside to glock. 10mm is definitely a better choice but those are nice stats I’ve never heard.

S&W M&P 45 Compact, Barrel length 3.3 in., ammunition: BB 255 gr., Hardcast, FLT Nose or Equivalent. I know I'm really pushing it w/ that barrel length. Right now that's all I have. Guess I should study for a woods carry sidearm.

I wonder what brand of load he was using for his 230 grain .45 ACP bear attack. If it was Speer lawman 230 grain, it would be a bit on the hotter side. If it was federal American eagle, it would possibly be on the average end (from many of the tests I’ve seen). I carry a Glock 21 everyday and it’s hard to beat its firepower in such a lightweight package. I have a mix of loads I carry depending the time of year. In the summer, I carry Federal HST 230 grain .45 ACP, Winchester T-series 230 grain .45 ACP, and Speer Gold Dot 200 grain +P .45 ACP. It really depends where I am going. In the fall and winter, I carry Hornady critical duty 220 grain +P. With heavy clothing, it’s nice to not have a hollow point that won’t clog. I will carry standard 230 grain FMJ (in Winchester white box or Remington UMC) in my backup magazine. If I’m in the woods, I’ll carry either the critical duty 220 grain +P or standard 230 grain FMJ (again in Winchester white box or Remington UMC). I have yet to have to fire it on dangerous game, but I took a whitetail with Remington UMC 230 grain FMJ with ease. Hard-cast may be in my future, but I’ve found I haven’t needed them. I’ll be hiking in the smoky mountains in the fall and I have no doubt that (God Forbid I have to) it will take a black bear.

The 45 is my favorite caliber for semi-automatic handguns. However, the 357 magnum is my favorite caliber for all handguns. When I photograph in the wilderness, I cannot carry a rifle or shot gun for protection from black bears, feral hogs, or wild dogs because I am carrying photographic gear. Instead, I carry a handgun. Thus far, my personal favorite is a 6-inch 357 magnum Smith & Wesson revolver loaded with 180 grain 357 magnum HSM flat-nose hard-cast lead ammo. However, I have recently considered carrying my 6-inch 45acp Heckler & Koch semi-automatic loaded with one of the following 45acp ammo: 1. 255 grain Buffalo Bore hard-cast lead 2. 255 grain Double Tap hard-cast lead 3. 255 grain Underwood hard-cast lead 4. 240 grain Federal solid-core synthetic Thanks for your video. I found it very useful.

@Hialeah1925

2 жыл бұрын

I am considering the same

@andymullarx6365

Жыл бұрын

A fine choice for that purpose.

The benefit of an all steel frame 1911 platform is the fact that the 45acp can be loaded to much higher pressures with 45 Super brass or going with wildcatting 308 small rifle primed brass and cutting down for 450 SMC - which 20yrs ago was called the 45-08. If you handload its easy to match and surpass the Buffalo Bore woodsman load. Handloading the 45acp to those pressures can be done safely with attention and upgrading to 45 Super with heavier recoil,mainspring,firing pin spring, as well as going with a flat bottom firing pin stop and a heavy duty extractor.Also using 45 Super and 45 +P rated Starline brass. I would only do this on a steel frame 1911 not polymer guns. If I backpack in non grizzly bear country, I take a Kahr CW45 ( polymer frame) as its super lightweight with 6 rd factory mag and if I want it can take stock 8 rd 1911 mags, I see no problem shooting the +P Buffalo Bore ammo in that gun, but dont shoot 45 Super loads in it. Still consider taking a look at the ease of reloading 45ACP (maybe the easiest of all cartridges to reload for) as it might save you a ton of money as well as making custom ammunition for your guns that would otherwise be unavailable

Cocked and Locked is fine with with a Series 80 Colt style 1911 or when carried in a thumb break holster that is designed for cocked and locked carry, such as a El Paso Saddlery #2.

.45acp is great, but I recently converted my Glock 21 to .45 Super! Super is greater speed which pushes the .45 cal with better penetration! Really maximizes the .45 potential! I highly recommend it if you choose .45, covert your pistol to super or if it’s born capable load .45 Super and with hard cast 255 grain! 1000 -1100 fps is better than 950 in my opinion…..

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

I'm looking into trying the .45 Super, seems like a great round! Thanks for the recommendation 👍

@kentuckywindage222

Жыл бұрын

I've been thinking about this for some time. I carry 255gr Underwood which are extremely accurate for me in my Glock and Colt. 147gr Underwood in my Glock 9mm. When out in the timber. Even though I try to always have a long gun. Unless not wanting to draw attention.

@johnnymccann5607

7 ай бұрын

I read your comment about 45 super. I have a Taurus pt845 in 45acp +p I don't think they make any more. I reload starline 45super brass, gt bullets 255gr hard cast wide mouth deep hp at cronygraphed speed of952 fps,also 250 gr xtp same. Ai don't get around our foothills and mountains much any more being disabled but not.helpless. bears not far from me .if fishing in bear area I would load 255gr 22 brinel hardness factor of 22 975 fps. Or take my Taurus tracker 44mag loaded with 265 or 280 hardcast of the same hardness at 1000-1050 fps.i load the super with the old triton ammunition company's 450smc load data. i think underwood still sells this round.the brass I s stronger than the 45super brass. it's a cut down 308winchester that use small rifle primers. I have thought about calling underwood to see if they would sell me just the 450smc brass. papa wishing you well 😊

@calvinnelsonjr6465

3 ай бұрын

Should've got the 10mm drop in conversion barrel

@cesarsaavedra3095

Ай бұрын

Pssh 45 super just get the 460 rowland . Jk man im a big fan of 45 super

A good choice may well be a Underwood 135 grain extreme defender @~1300 fps. It is solid brass and is basically barrier blind which should do well on head shots of attacking bears.

Should the recoil springs be upgraded when using these higher power loadings? Thanks for the great video

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you liked it. To be completely honest we haven't had too switch them out ourselves since the stock spring on this A1FS ejects the rounds well. Depending on the gun you might need to change them or add a recoil buffer pad, It's hard to say.

I feel more comfortable with cocked and locked than with plastic trigger dingus safeties. Even better is DA/SA. Have you considered best ammo options for wild hog? Here near the Everglades, bear are the size of dogs, hogs the size of VW's.

.45 caliber head shot… it’s going down!

If u like the 45 check out the 45 super and 450 smc rounds ,

My Ruger P345 has a decocker so once it's decocked it's safe to carry with one in the chamber. You just shoot double action without having to pull back the hammer first.

@woj5105

Жыл бұрын

Exactly why I love my Sig 220.

@dave4344

8 ай бұрын

S&W 4500 series also has a decocker and is safe to carry with one in the chamber

I told a friend who was a .45 ACP every day carrier (like me,) that although I loved the round, I felt it was a little light for Bear and that I'd loan him a .44 Magnum for his Alaska trips. He did not take me up on the offer. Two years later, on a trip to Alaska, a Brown Bear charged him and his buddy while loading their winter fish onto a boat and my friend turned and fired 8 rounds with the only weapon that they had in reach , his Full Sized Series '70 .45 ACP loaded with Cor Bon +P 200 grain JHP's killing the bear as it turned broadside at the distance of a few feet. They accused me of not knowing what the "Bleep" I was talking about, and I guess in this instance they were correct.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that's quite the experience! I'm glad it worked for him. As much as I love the .45, taking it too Alaska wouldn't make me too comfortable but I guess he just reinforced my case here lol

@Visiblyblue

Жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures based on all your testing , what would be your preferred caliber/bullet and gun for the big Alaska bears?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

@@Visiblyblue Great question! A 444 Marlin or 45-70 Govt with Heavy hardcasts would be perfect as my primary gun, actually my 450 Bushmaster would be good too I just hate the slow rate of action it has being a Bolt action. But either or any way, I need a big long gun. As a sidearm, the 10mm is great and so is the .45, but neither is my preferred choice at this time for Alaska. I am looking into investing into something like a 44 mag or 480 Ruger with a 6" barrel. Either would be perfect for me. A 460 Rowland conversion, if reliable, would be good too and is something I plan on getting down the road aswell

@Visiblyblue

Жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures those are very well thought out choices. Thank you! That's good to have your data based opinion when we're picking up some new woods guns

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

@@Visiblyblue no problem, glad I could help!

Where can you find the Hard Cast ammo that you have reviewed? I live in Boise and the gun shops don’t carry Hard Case loads.

Need to test the Underwood 255gr hardcast, they usually shoot at fps indicated by mfg.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Just did 👍kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z5yNssyvY6nKkZc.html

My nightstand gun is Glock 21 and my woods gun is G21 frame with LW 20L slide 10mm. I use 200 grain hard cast Underwood ammo @1500 fps. I just subscribe to your informative awesome channel,

@mikerobinson8734

Жыл бұрын

How are you achieving 1500fps? Are you running a 9”barrel? No manufacturer makes a 200grn load at those velocities. Even a 6” barrel your looking at 1275-1300fps.

@Anthony74te27

Жыл бұрын

@@mikerobinson8734 you are right 200 grain hard cast is 1250. I meant to say 1500 feet per second on my 140 grain extreme penetrator. Sorry for the mix up.

@mikerobinson8734

Жыл бұрын

@@Anthony74te27 right on my man!

Consider testing the Winchester USA Ready in 230 grain FMJ flatpoint. In my testing it will penetrate 2 pieces of plywood and exited 6 water jugs. The flatpoint will do more damage, penetrate deeper, and keep a straighter line than a RN FMJ.

The 1911 with the hammer cocked and safety on is exactly the same as your hunting rifle with the a round in the chamber and safety on... You may also want to look up and test the .45 Super...

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I know, but I hear that's almost taboo. I decided to go on the safe side with my comments. And the 45 Super and 460 Rowland are high on my list.

@Wildwestwrangler

2 жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures also double tap makes 450smc which is the same or a bit more powerful than the 45 super

@robertmakowski7808

2 жыл бұрын

@@tompullman7955 Would have to disagree... 1911s from the factory have a 4-6# trigger pull. All of my hunting rifles have a 1.5-4# pull... I was in LE for 30 years and carried a 1911 for 5 on duty and every day since 1976 off duty. More officers have had unintentional discharges with safety on the trigger striker fired guns than any DA or SA semis or revolvers combined...

@cgsimons1187

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes people get the notion of carrying a 1911 with the hammer back being the same as holstering a revolver with the hammer back. Which is a scary thought. However, they are different. While the trigger on many 1911s are pretty light, they have a manual safety as well as a grip safety. Taking this into consideration, they are actually safer than many other pistols. I can shoot a 1911 more accurately and with greater speed(probably those slender grips, light trigger, and weight of the pistol are helping) than a Glock 21. Though I'll give the Glock 21 credit for having greater capacity since those mags hold 13 rounds.

Seen plenty of old horses dropped with a headshot from a 1911 in .45acp. Headshots but a horse has a thick skull also

good video.

CZ 97 .45 or my Glock G40 10mm are my choices. Practice‼️, bullet placement matters most.

if Roy had used a hardcast, or a fmj flat nosed bullet like the winchester USA ready 45acp but it's loaded to about 880fps and has a 230gr flat nose, but I'd rather have underwood 45acp+p 255gr hardcast

Have you any experience with Underwood 255 grain hardcast, powder coated rounds?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I just picked some up, so hopefully we'll be able to try them out soon.

Hello Jep You documented your past ammo tests in a very detailed way on what looks like typed and printed form. I know you spent a lot of money on the premium ammo you bought. Did you Do these tests as a research paper for school ? Glad to hear about your second channel, I too have an interest in the Bigfoot subject. Good luck to you and keep up the good work !!

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes, somewhat. I also plan on writing a book with all the results in a few years so it works out.

I use a sig P220 in 45 ACP but have it loaded with 45 Super with hard caste double taps when in bear country.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

One of these days I'm gonna test out some 45 Super ammo. From everything I've heard from my viewers, think you're in good hands carrying that caliber. Anyway, thank you for sharing and I hope you have a good rest of your week!

a Glock 21 with one in the chamber is in fact cocked and ready to negligently discharge. I have taken 3 deer over several decades with 45 acp. It seems to work fine. I think I was using 200 gr JHPs for all of them.

@richhauxwell7848

Жыл бұрын

Deer and smaller mammals are a huge difference

@Mike-xi4zt

Жыл бұрын

​@@richhauxwell7848 I've shot 2 black bear with 357 mag revolver 6 inch. 1 went about 50 yard with double lung hit the other went about 2 steps.

I'd be very interested in seeing how a 357sig would do. I've been researching this gun and it's quite impressive. I have owned both 45 and 40 cal but from what I've read the 357sig has greater stopping power, higher velocity and higher muzzle energy then both the 40 and 45. The 357sig can produce 1475fps and muzzle energy up to 620. It's Impressive.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about getting a conversion for it, but I'm kinda leaning towards getting a 460 Rowland... decisions, decisions.

@steveorules3972

2 жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures I hear you there. ✌️

@jimbob465

Жыл бұрын

357 mag has use against critters because it can fire 180-200gr bullets. 357 mag is good for person defense with the 125gr bullets. 357 sig cannot use heavier slugs than a 9mm, and therefore is not as good as even a 40 or 45 for shooting claw critters.

@northtexasairgunner

Жыл бұрын

Jeps, you should do a 45 super

@ryanranard5187

Жыл бұрын

Stopping power 🤣

Would you carry a .45 in western Montana?

Good points on the 45 auto. I disagree about carrying cocked and locked, it is very safe and how the pistol is designed, but unless you carry a double stack you are better off with a Glock. As far as the hairy man goes, I've never seen one but how can anyone discount the many thousands of people who have?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, and I appreciate your input! And that's one of the biggest reasons for why I started Idaho Bigfoot: people are seeing something, the question is what exactly is it? At the end of the day, its a fascinating phenomenon at the very least. Anyway, thanks for watching!

Here's the link to a new video I made reading a story written by Russell Annabel! This one is entitled "Bulls in the Snow": kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXeWt9asqqWzYto.html Also: make sure you watch to the end folks, I have an announcement I want you to hear!

@DavidLee-yu7yz

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jep, i just subbed your Idaho Bigfoot channel, when it comes to Bigfoot there are a minority of people jumping on the bandwagon, that are not credible, but I do know people and sites who are credible and I count you in this number and will look forward to viewing your videos to date. Sorry to mention this on your Outdoors channel as this is primarily sidearms, and to reiterate something I said to you over two years ago now, that I wish I had made the jump to The States in the late Eighties but these things happen .I am from UK (Wales) and still live here but did live in Spain and Ireland (Eire)for a short while about twentry years back. Anyway wishing you a Good day. Dave

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLee-yu7yz that's awesome, thank you! Hope you're doing well 👍

@DavidLee-yu7yz

2 жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures I am good thanks 🙂

@jason_m_schmidt622

Жыл бұрын

But sir with all due respect. What about zombie bear defense in the apocalypse? 😂

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

@@jason_m_schmidt622 never look them in the eye. Best thing you can do is buy them lunch, maybe Popeyes or something

Can you test the underwood 255gr hardcast 45acp +p

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I'll look into getting some 👍

I can no longer find Double Tap ammo. Do you know anything about this company’s status? Their website shows all of their loads as “sold out”. Thanks in advance.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I saw that too, I wonder why. Hopefully they are alright. They make good ammo

I have this ammo for my 10mm when I'm out in the woods,and I have my wife carry my Glock 45 .Would this ammo be sufficient aswell for bear or cougar in 45 caliber?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, any one of the hardcasts I tested should work given how well they performed👍

@TheKalico23

2 жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures Thanks 👍

Which cal do you prefer 45 or 40 for dangerous game 800 lbs or less?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

45 honestly. Both are great though

.45acp isn't the be all and end all of the 1911 format. Many people in Alaska carry .45 Super or .45 Rowland as bear protection from a handgun. I shoot .45 Super from my sr1911 , 185 gr. @ 1300 or 230 gr. @ 1100 suits me just fine and all that from a Plain Jane 1911 slightly modified (spring pressure and compensator) to fire the more powerful cartridge.

I would highly recommend if you like 45ACP get a 460 Rowland conversion then you can fire 460 Rowland , 45 SWC , 45 super , then of course the 45 ACP.

I appreciate you doing these videos on penetration. When it comes to large animal defense with handguns, penetration is all that's important. If the penetration is there, the bear will never know if the velocity was 200 fps faster or slower.

There is a true story of a man killing a grisly bear with a HIPOINT JHP 45acp pistol. You can look it up. The bear wondered upon the man and his young son at their home in a northern state or maybe even Alaska. He fired several shots.

@wynnholdal2317

Жыл бұрын

If you carry a 1911 with a round in the chamber it must be cocked hammer locked. Thanks, Wynn

Cool 🔥🇺🇸

454 casual is my pick for Bear county!

Good job, you put together some awesome tests! Which 45 ACP Bear round did you discover to be the overall most effective? How does the Underwood 255 grain +P compared to the Bufallo Bore equivalent and the others?

I load a lot of 45 acp and so I have tried a lot of loads. what I have settled on as an all around load is my cast and coated 200 grain SWC at right at 1050 fps. if this load will not do it then a 45 acp will not do it. are their commercial ++++P rounds with lighter slugs that are faster? yes but... I have 185 molds and the 200 is a way better alll around bullet for feeding and accuracy... The SWC bullet for 45 was originally a target bullet at low velocity but works great for high velocity my load shoots cloverleaf groups at 25 yards from a sandbag rest. So this is my round of choice for the 45 acp... Glock for tense work? naa.. the grip angle is wrong meaning if you have to point shoot you are screwed. Better to have a gun that points like your finger.. that would be a SAA 1873 or clone or the 1911 or any handgun with those grip angles.

45 acp 1911 has won 2 world wars cant say that about any other gun it was good enough for anything outside the USA

@AZ-yo1qd

Жыл бұрын

45 acp won 2 world wars?))) Are you kidding?))))))

Bear charges you, takes hits, keeps charging until it's killed. Rangers tell you you should have used rubber bullets. That way, it will not stop coming until YOU are dead.

G.K. USA. What about a double stack 45acp with 14 big ones in + p. I have one and it never fails to shoot in standard or plus p loadings. The pistol is a Para-ordnance P-14. I have magazines with base plates that increase the capacity to 15 or 16 rounds. Happiness is a pile of warm, spent brass.

HIPOINTS 1095TS 10MM Carbine would be an idea gun and reasonably priced. Underwood 200 and 220gr 10mm hard cast.

I would like to see you test the Hornady Critical Duty .45 acp 220gr +p flex lock. See how their claims of “barrier blindness” hold up to your jugs testing for bear country. Thx

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

4 ай бұрын

I'll look into that, thank you for the suggestion!

IF your placement is perfect, any large caliber will do... However you may only get one shot... your round has to easily penetrate the bears skul... onlt 357 or 44 mag can relyably do that... My choice would be a short light 44 mag carbine... mine in a Winchester model 94...weighs six pounds easy to carry..

I think 45 super ammo will stop any bear.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully I'll be able to test that someday

@tradesman63

2 жыл бұрын

If you do test it I hope you are hunting the bear, instead of the bear hunting you..

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@tradesman63 yeah, I didn't word my comment too well lol!

@Wildwestwrangler

2 жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures if you get your hands on an hk45 or usp 45 especially you can shoot 45 super without modification

One of my heroes is John Moses Browning.

I thank you for the video. Some free advice. A person could carry an XD instead of Glock. P.s. Contact the manufacturer of Glock and Springfield arms and verify that the XD can handle a small amount of 45 Super /+ P ammo, instead of worrying about a Glock.

@keithmccready3158

Жыл бұрын

I did contact them and they can handle 45 plus P ammunition .

Loss of bullet mass must occur in the bore due to friction.

45 Super or 450 SMC and 255gr Hardcast for Bear In Glock 21 for Alaska

Cocked and locked is the safest way to carry a 1911.Case closed.

FNX45 Tactical is a double action single action autoloader with 15 round magazines. Regarding 1911s, they are safer to carry in condition one (cocked & locked) than a Glock or any other pistol without a manual safety, of which a 1911 has two.

@mikerobinson8734

Жыл бұрын

A Glock has 3 safeties. It is ultimately impossible for a Glock to fire without the trigger being pulled. Holster discipline and trigger awareness is common sense, if you can’t manage a Glock than you probably shouldn’t own a firearm.

@richardthomas6602

Жыл бұрын

@@mikerobinson8734 people have much higher unintentional discharge rates with glocks than with 1911s. It is also easier to take a glock away from someone than a 1911 because a weaker four digit grip.

@tedpendagast579

Жыл бұрын

@@richardthomas6602 weaker four digit grip What kind of crazy crap are you inventing

@richardthomas6602

Жыл бұрын

@tedpendagast579 a four digit grip is weaker than the five digit grip made possible with the 1911's thumb safety. Of course, this is possible with handguns without this safety if you fire the pistol and don't reset the trigger. Not likely to be a good solution.

@tedpendagast579

Жыл бұрын

@@richardthomas6602 what are you going on about?? What does a thumb safety have to do with holding the firearm??

WHERE DID YOU GET 50 ROUND BOXES OF BUFFALO BORE FROM?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 ай бұрын

From Buffalo Bore themselves, if I'm not mistaken. I think they have changed the way they package their ammo and only ship 20 round boxes too now

Like pepper spray to ward off human attackers and small animals...bear spray has an expiration date. DO NOT DEPEND ON BEAR SPRAY AS BEING EFFECTIVE IF USED AFTER THE EXPIRATION DATE.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

4 ай бұрын

That's good to remember

You can carry a 1911 cooked and locked. Meaning it has a thumb safety. I'm not at all trying to call you out and love your videos. I just think carrying a glock or 1911 would be very effective for larger game in the woods. Provided they all cycle properly lol.

Underwood makes a really great 45acp +p hardcast bear load too!

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

4 ай бұрын

I was able to test it after this video. And I agree, its one of my favorites!

@beakfish7319

4 ай бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures oh that is awesome! Haha

You mentioned my favorite rifle caliber 444 Marlin, that would be in my hands in bear country! F%@k the bear spray!! Wind will blow it in your face! I carry a 1911 45acp EVERY DAY ALL DAY, it's NOT TO HEAVY! I'm a little guy too. Yep Buffalo Bore 255g is EXCELLENT FOR BLACK BEAR!! I figure Bigfoot too! Great video!!

1911’s are meant to be carried cocked and locked, and between the thumb safety, grip safety, and internal safeties, is safer for many than a Glock. If you’re afraid to carry a gun the way it is meant to be carried, carry something else. No trainers recommend carrying a 1911 with a hammer down on a live round.

The Lee 255 grain slugs I've cast, shot and recovered haven't lost much if any weight. I'm surprised that a BB 255 hard cast only weighed 231 grains....

Not to be picky, but isn't the .45acp referred to the pistol and not the cartridge? I think all reloading manuals refer to the cartridge as the .45 auto nor the .45acp. But, I could be wrong. The all-steel 1911 and .45 auto are still my favorite over any polymers.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

6 ай бұрын

I believe you are correct, I just find myself using the term .45 ACP more often than not 👍. And I agree, I like 1911's a lot more than the polymer pistols I've used. They just feel right. Thanks for watching and stopping by!

How about 45long colt ? For bear? Buffalo bore?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

7 ай бұрын

I would imagine the 45 ACP and 45 Colt are - more or less - pretty equal in performance, but I unfortunately do not have access to a 45 colt in order to do any testing, so I can't help much in this department. Sorry

Hammer being cocked on 1911 is nerve racking? wha? Yet, with the Glock the striker firing pin is cocked and under spring tension isn't? The 1911 has a manual safety, grip safety and the hammer also has a half cock position that can catch the hammer, series 80 also has a firing pin block, seems like a lack of information and training than a valid concern.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

For some. I've been carrying the 1911 for 3 months now cocked and locked, no issues 👍

@FearNoSteel

Жыл бұрын

@@JepsOutdoorAdventures carry on 👍

Hey Jep 👋 111 grain 1700 fps monolithic 45 acp plus p “grind hard ammo?”

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid I've never heard of that. I'll look into it 👍 But to be completely honest, I have a hard time believing it will be as good as a good hardcast!

Jep, you say that you are not comfortable with the 1911 cocked and loaded, but do you carry the Glock with it cocked and loaded? The 1911 has an external safety of which helps keep it safe from negligent misfires when drawing the gun from the holster. The Glocks do not have such a feature and people tend to shot themselves in the leg when drawing the weapon. But both weapons are cocked and ready to rock, just that the 1911 has a lock on it and the Glocks do not. If you think that just because you do not see the hammer cocked back that that makes a striker fire pistol safer you are sadly mistaken. Basically, one either has a semi-auto pistol that is not cocked and not ready to rock [not good], cocked locked and ready to rock [good and safe], or cocked unlocked and ready to rock [good unsafe, so kind of not good]. And if anybody thinks that people shoot themselves with 1911 as much as they do with Glocks I challenge them to watch the plethora of KZread videos of people negligently shooting themselves and find me just one where some one shot themselves with a 1911. And at the same time keep count of how many of those videos were Glock related. So far I have not found one video where someone shot themselves negligently with a 1911, but they have mostly been Glock related. A few with revolvers when they were playing around with them and coking and uncocking them. Experts as well as cops, who all have lots of training, have shot themselves with Glocks on the draw and re-holstering. While with 1911s only when re-holstering if they had forgetting to set the safety. With revolvers only if they had cocked the hammer back and did not fire it and then forgot to un-cock it and re-holstered it. Which is better to shot oneself in the leg, because they do not want to have to switch off a safety, and then deal with a bear, or deal with the little time it takes to remember to switch off the safety and then deal with the bear? Or better yet just have a double action revolver (and de-spur the hammer so they can not cock it in the first place, yet it still shoots like a semi-auto by simply pulling the trigger each time they want it to fire) and draw and fire it without worrying about a safety or shooting themselves in the leg when drawing or re-holstering! The safety is your friend on a semi-auto, and Glocks are not friendly in that way at all. And double action revolvers are the friendliest as they are safe without a safety, and they are always ready to rock without being pre-cocked. Personally, I carry a 45 Colt fully loaded. The bullets are 250 grain solid copper, going at 1000 fps, with a TKO factor of 16 or a KPS value of 35.7, and it will take on animals upward of 1500 pounds or less. So I do not have to worry about flipping a safety off, nor do I have to worry about shooting my self in the leg when trying to fast draw it in a pinch. And I do not have to worry if I reset the safety either before re-holstering. The only worry with a double action revolver is re-holstering with the hammer cocked back, and if it does not have a spur then that worry is done away with for good. Also with revolver pistols people do not have to practice "TAP, RACK, and SLAP" like they have to with semi-auto pistols. This procedure takes time that when a bear is charging one may very well not have. And it takes both hands, of which a bear could be chewing on one by this time in the game. Revolvers are an ambidextrous one handed thing that never fail to feed or eject, and if a round does not go off just keep pulling the trigger. So the only real concern should be which double action revolver one would take to a bear fight? And keep in mind that black bears can be upwards of 600 pounds or so, and grizzlies 1000 or better. What ever one should choose (a semi-auto or revolver pistol), run the figures of the rounds through the two equations below to see just how big of game one could take down with them. Keep in mind that these two systems are considering a humane kill with a side shot through the lungs and heart of the animal and not a straight on charging scenario, so really the numbers need to be higher than rated below as far as what size animal the rounds will take down quickly. And always choose HARD CAST LEAD or SOLID COPPER/BRASS bullets only, as they penetrate the skulls easier as opposed to deflecting off them. 1) "Taylor Knock-Out Factor" ( n4lcd.com/calc/) [bullet weight in grains X speed in feet per second X diameter of the bullet in inches divided by 7,000 = ______ ] 2) "Killing Power Scale": [bullet weight in grains X speed in feet per second divided by 7,000 = ______ ] [Any killing power index system must have some baseline values that define minimums for the weight and/or type of game animals that might be hunted. After considerable deliberation and discussion, Chuck Hawks and Pacos Kelly settled on the following KPS baselines. Understand that these are ultimately judgment calls, so someone who has a different perspective might question particular baseline values. That said, They believe the baselines presented here to be reasonable, though not immutable.] Baseline KPS values: KPS 12.5 or greater: Class 2 game, 50 pounds to about 150 pounds (e.g., average size North American deer, pronghorn, feral hog) KPS 15 or greater: All Class 2 game, but especially those between about 150 and 300 pounds (e.g., very large whitetail deer and feral hogs, mule deer, caribou, black bear) KPS 30 or greater: Smaller Class 3 game, 300 to about 500 pounds (e.g., smaller elk, red stag, oryx, very large black bear) KPS 32 or greater: Class 3 game between about 500 and 1000 pounds (e.g., trophy elk, average moose, extremely large black bear) KPS 35 or greater: All Class 3 game, but especially those between about 1000 and 1500 pounds (e.g., very large moose, eland) [45 Colt 250 grain Extreme Penetrator @ 1000 = 35.7] KPS 68.5 or greater: Thin-skinned Class 4 game (e.g., leopard, lion, GRIZZLY BEAR) [45 Colt 250 grain Extreme Penetrator +P @ 1400 = 61.5 (close). As far as pistols this is a 45 Colt Ruger only load] KPS 88 or greater: Thick skinned dangerous game (e.g., Cape buffalo, rhino, elephant)

Anyone have a report on Underwood ammo ?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Check out my channel, there's a video on it there 👍

Heyyy, I own a rock island too!

Would a 50BMG suffice?

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

No

Where did you get the size of the animal? I mean why is 800 pounds the max

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

It's my personal feelings more than anything. It's a good caliber, but I'm not comfortable with anything bigger than that weight range myself and want others to exercise due caution carrying it in areas where the game exceeds that weight. It can probably do the trick, but I don't personally feel it's powerful enough. Hope that makes sense 👍

@ric2267

Жыл бұрын

@Jep's Outdoor Adventures Yep. Personally I think the 44 mag is the way to go but I'm very interested in the buffalobore 45 ammo. Didn't know they made a 45 in Hard cast. Appreciate the video.

I don't know how you could feel uncomfortable with a cocked and locked 1911 but comfortable with what is basically a cocked and unlocked Glock.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

9 ай бұрын

I'm comfortable with it and carried it all last year as my sidearm while hunting without problems 👍

Carrying a 1911 cooked and locked shouldn't be an issue 2 safeties have to be deactivated before it can be fired I'm not trying to argue just throwing it out there!

I was gonna talk crap about how much you talked….. but brah! This was a great video frfr

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Thanks lol

I lived in Alaska for 8 years/spent a LOT of time in the bush. "Bear Protection" and "handgun" (when applied to browns and grizzlies) shouldn't even be in the same sentence. I'd give you a reluctant "maybe" if you KNEW you'd only encounter black bears and insisted on carrying a pistol only. A favorite for AK bear protection is a 45-70 lever gun. FWIW, if you get surprised by a brown/grizzly bear attack, there is almost no chance you are going to get a pistol out of a holster in time to do anything.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

7 ай бұрын

Long guns are always better performance-wise, no doubt. Thank you for stopping by and sharing!

Those in Law Enforcement who needed to stop someone where they needed great penetration, choose the 357 Sig over the 45 ACP based on their experiences of using both in dangerous situations.

@JepsOutdoorAdventures

Жыл бұрын

I'm in the process of testing the 357 Sig and can see why