So Idoneth: They come from the depth of the oceans obviously, but for raiding the land dwellers their Tidecasters summon the Ethersea, a phenomenon, where the air becomes spectral water in where they can swim with all their sea beasts. So really a good guess you made.

@jordanhelljester

2 жыл бұрын

I always saw it as the way Marvel portrays Namor and his atlantean posse when they parade over New York or something.

@johnalbers6153

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying it so I didn't have to!

@thecandlemaker1329

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordanhelljester Weird that you'd remember Marvel, because at release everybody called them Aquaman Elfs.

The positivity energy is what the hobby needs. Who else thinks before the 3rd or 4th KT box is released, the boys will finally get their free one?

@murrayprovan4835

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully hopefully

I love how you guys keep referring to the "Order" guys, as the "Good" guys. Remember, this may not be set in the Grim Darkness of the far future, but it's still Warhammer.

@IdolsHextech

Жыл бұрын

it's age of sigmar though so it's babby warhammer

@kaladongstormguy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Idoneth Deepkin being called good guys made me giggle. They're definitely not the most evil faction, but in pretty much any other setting they would 100% be the bad guys

@stephenchurch1784

Жыл бұрын

I think that people see the Greek mythology influences and think of the Disney sanitized version of Greek mythology. Looking past the bright coat of paint though shows that it's closer to the real Greek mythology where Hercules was a man with serious anger problems and a "redemption" arc that involved killing anyone or anything that stood in his way

@mrwabbit9576

Жыл бұрын

Barely. Same IP but it's very watered down

This is fun. AoS for me has been a nice breath of fresh air after the intense space marine fatigue GW has caused. This Black Templar release should have excited me but I knew something was up when my reaction was "really? more space marines?" I recently got a handful of AoS models without knowing anything other than "box art looked awesome" and have been enjoying painting them.

@thecandlemaker1329

2 жыл бұрын

This is the exact reason I abandoned 40k and never looked back. I haven't been excited for space marines for what must be 10 years now. With AoS, sometimes you get gold, sometimes you get dogshit, but you always get something fresh!

@UntiltedName

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecandlemaker1329 Yeah I just finished some Bonereaper hero cavalry guy it's awesome. If any Space Marine group needed love it was Black Templar (or maybe Space Wolves) so I can't blame them, but it is tiring.

@rasmuskock8077

2 жыл бұрын

For me it's the exact opposite. I grew tired of AOS because they also tried to make their own Space Marine posterboys (stormscasts) in that series too, but atleast they don't get all the focus like in 40k

@UntiltedName

2 жыл бұрын

@@rasmuskock8077 Yeah they're just 1 faction, not literally half the game. Though you wouldn't know that looking at the starter sets.

@roninwolf3347

2 жыл бұрын

Im starting an AOS ork Iron Jawz army next weekend. Ive never played 40k or aos before just want to paint up an army.

Im pretty sure that the "ghoul on zombiedragon" came out in 2011 when the Vampire Counts got some lovin' in form of plastic Black Knights, the redhead Banshee, and other minis that are still kicking around.

@CTA12356

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they’re fantasy not Aos credit where credits due Eons

@captainweekend5276

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they update the date on the store page when the item is reboxed, usually for new editions.

The old metal Lord Kroak looks great on the floating palenquin especially surrounded by a block of 20-24 templeguard... Or if you prefer frogs then the older one again where he is being carried is good too haha

I feel like the masked griffin abomination would look way cooler if it was painted in dark colors to lean into its horror aspects

As a history nerd and wargamer who recently joined this side of the hobby I really appreciate the positive attitudes and love for the hobby you guys really make me remember why I love this hobby!

To be fair most of the big models are pretty awesome. But how is the average person supposed to transport a whole army including these models…

@CTA12356

2 жыл бұрын

GW doesn’t want you to, that’s the point

@commandercostas

2 жыл бұрын

Magnetise the bases

@shrike2598

2 жыл бұрын

@@commandercostas How would magnetising the bases solve the problems of models being 30x30 cm with wings etc

@commandercostas

2 жыл бұрын

@@shrike2598 Get a taller box

@Phoenixillusion18

2 жыл бұрын

@@shrike2598 It's really not that hard , some modedl can be carried in the standard foam box to.

Most AoS models say 2016, since at that time Warhammer Fantasy was turned into AoS. So yeah, the Zombie Dragon/Terrorgheist kit is about 15years old iirc

AoS completely goes full nutty with the designs and breaks a lot of barriers design wise. This game more than 40k is where GW has been the most creative and original

The new kruleboyz almost make me break my promise not to get into the big army games. Swampboss Skumdrekk is one of the best models I’ve seen in years and it’s actually pretty cheap. I don’t know if it is big enough to be ”army centerpiece”.

@michaelspitz9151

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I was crazy too it does look cheap, and amazing

@pronumeral1446

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelspitz9151 It's 55 USD and medium sized. And yeah it looks so good holy crap. Reminds me of the Ogre Stonehorn somehow.

@michaelspitz9151

2 жыл бұрын

@@pronumeral1446 yeah I’m pretty sure GW has brainwashed me in reality it’s not worth it but I’m terms of GW it’s a steal

The dwarf would be fine on an ornate saddle. The fact he's stood upright on top of a pedestal makes it look daft

@MrZauberelefant

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, short legged dwarves don't need no saddle. Have him control the beast with a pair of chains, holding onto it like a Fremen riding the Shai-Hulud.

@pug1184

2 жыл бұрын

The alternate build (Auric Runefather) has the guy on a saddle with a long axe/polearm. It does look better.

@taigaaisaka6305

Жыл бұрын

I'm gonna do exactly that if I ever get the model. Kitbash him into a saddle/throne looking down on everything instead of the stupid "Mom! look! Without hands!" pose he's in by default.

Made me think that 40k misses the centre pieces, there are a few forge world options, but aside from those, there isn't much .

@noosa187

2 жыл бұрын

I like the game being more about armies than superhero characters

@Stuffandstuff974

2 жыл бұрын

As a 40K player I prefer that it doesn't have centre piece models.

@Some_Cool_Dude

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stuffandstuff974, I don't know man that Lord vek model when it was in the game was one of the pimpest things around

@harryskinner1426

2 жыл бұрын

These centre piece models are actually what put me off AoS

@Stuffandstuff974

2 жыл бұрын

@@Some_Cool_Dude I don't disagree with the quality of the model, I just prefer a bit more grim dark and a little less high fantasy.

How was your centerpiece pick for Bonereapers Arkhan and not Katakros? You really need to look at that guy for the next video, he's a 10/10 model.

@rathalos28able

2 жыл бұрын

What about nagash himself

@HagenBraun

2 жыл бұрын

@@rathalos28able Nagash should honestly be the model for Gravelords if they do only one per faction. Although missing out on the cool new vampire kits is also a shame.

@thecandlemaker1329

2 жыл бұрын

@@HagenBraun Nagash is shared by the entire grand alliance. Vengorians are the Gravelord centrepiece.

@HagenBraun

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecandlemaker1329 Nagash can only go into Gravelords and OBR. Plus, they had Archaon in the other video instead of Belakor, and he actually goes into 5 chaos armies.

@thecandlemaker1329

2 жыл бұрын

@@HagenBraun You forgot the most important one, Legions of Nagash.

Thanks for sharing this video with us. I am sure most of us got a kick out of watching those Age of Sigmar models. Most are above my affordability meter. I also need to work on my painting skills. I would go to town on those models if my skills level was much better than it is now. Love watching your videos. Keep up the great work you do.

I tried building that stormcast star drake and the wings refuse to stay attached. It’s currently half built in a box of shame. There are some good “honourable mentions” you should do for some of the factions you already covered: - The daughter of khaine cauldron of blood/blood wrack shrine - stormcast celestant prime - deepkin Volturnos or Eidolon - nagash, the original floaty negative space model that GW seem obsessed with these days - coven throne. It’s such a cool model same with Mortis engine Look forward to the next part!

Okay so hear me out: Idoneth are the best Race in Age of Sigmar. Teclis made them, but whoopsie, he isn't perfect and they turned out not how he wanted them too. They grew pretty reclusive, he tried to kill them and they fled under the sea. Tyrion made Teclis chill down later. For the Idoneth it's better down where its wetter, but mainly because they hate experiencing strong emotions or feelings, because they have Super PTSD from their original souls being in Slaanesh's stomach after the end times until the Aelven Gods trapped Slaanesh and make he/she/it throw up all the Aelfsouls. Down under they realised that 99% of their children were born with only tiny souls that couldnt sustain life, so they were forced to ready for Soul Raids, get souls from the surface world to extend their Soulless children, the Namarti's, live into their 40s. The Full souled ones, martial Akhelians and magical Isharann have normal Aelven lifespans (very long). Now the Idoneth are forced to go out and raid for souls, which they hate, because it forces them from leaving their nice, safe, cold, dark underwater strongholds. They are really good at it, but they dont like it. They figured that they ned beasts of burden and war mounts, but they couldnt really connect with the underwater monsters, so they had to resort to blinding and breaking the beasts with awful means. In order for the Idoneth to live underwater and for the Mounts to accompany them on their soul raids, the Idoneth came up with the Aethersea, which above ground manifests as a fog, that slows enemies thoughts and movements, allows the Seamonsters to breathe and swim, steals the survivors memories (because Idoneth love their secrecy) and underwater allows the Aelves to breathe, see and not get crushed to death, because they decided the homiest place for them is at the bottom of the Mariana trench in AoS. They want to heal their curse so badly, the Isharann labour ceaselessly to find a solution. But they also need to survive with the stopgap measure of the soulraids. Idoneth are awesome.

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

that does sound really cool! I don't dislike the Idoneth, the models just don't get me excited enough to want to collect them.

@moldiworp9143

Жыл бұрын

Honestly this has me give a full 180 about Idoneth, that's a believable cultural event/trend leading to a very elfy duality. Good work you reached a hater.

Honestly stardrake looks amazing to me while the space dwarfs and the tree people don't interest me at all

Keep up the good work. You guys keeping the positivity of the hobby from dying.

I'm glad you guys are getting into AoS, it is amazing imho. You need to see Katakros!

This was a great idea.💡 I’ve been playing 40k for a very long time and I never got into fantasy. It’s awesome but it wasn’t played much at the old bunker in my area. I’d be willing to give it a try.

Doing Death and not doing Katakros or Nagash? That better be the first thing we see.

check out Katakros in the next video, also the alternate build for the zombie dragon is called the royal terrogheist and that looks 10 times cooler

Now I'm sorta curious how you would rank them. Also should totally do one of these for all the 40k ones.

Didnt look at Nagash or am I missing something? No Archaon either? They are THE centerpiece models.

@converseroo101

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t get to Chaos - but yeah Nagash is the original floaty boi!

@petrinafilip96

2 жыл бұрын

@@converseroo101 Must have turned the video off before that. I was super confused because it seemed like a decent amount of models was missing from the review.

@converseroo101

2 жыл бұрын

@@petrinafilip96 they said towards the end this will be a part one. they did order and i think all of death - i didnt see the bonereapers(?) come up, so destruction and chaos to go

@obedpacheco5420

2 жыл бұрын

I think Arkhan (sp?) was their option for OBR unfortunately. Hopefully someone can let them know Katakros is the boneist of bone boiz so they can include him in the next vid

@converseroo101

2 жыл бұрын

@@obedpacheco5420 ahh I didn’t realise he was a bonereapers character! Yeah they deffo need the boney boi

"they don't want baby skulls" (completely neglects baby skulls on hat)

Tbh I only discovered your channel fairly recently and I have to credit your positivity with me looking to get back into the hobby atm. I actually stopped collecting back when they cut the Cadian squad in half but kept the price the same. I was still looking at the lore and going crazy trying to read as many stories about WFB in particular as I could as it's my favourite setting (yes more than 40k), just had some very out of date and stale models imo. I loved checking out WFB lore right up until they brought in AOS. Honestly I was so sour that they dumped WFB that I wouldn't even look at AOS for a long time. When I did finally check them out I have to admit I found many of the models to be interesting and very nice overall. But the setting does nothing for me at all and didn't make me want to invest. But more power to anyone that does. This was just my experience with it. I did hear recently that WFB may be making a comeback (please be true🙏). Sorry for rambling. Overall just wanted to say thanks for your excellent tutorials and positivity that are helping me get back into the hobby 👍

@petermartin9224

2 жыл бұрын

You heard correct, its coming back via Warhammer: The Old World. Its keeping the same scale, square bases and is set several hundred years before the end times. Current rumours state that it'll become Forge Worlds flagship game as Horus Hersey becomes a mainline gw product alongside 40k/AoS/Middle earth

@johnoneill3654

2 жыл бұрын

@@petermartin9224 That's great to hear! Thanks for the info👍 Hope it means they continue to write great lore and stories also.

@petermartin9224

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnoneill3654 I hope so to, a lot of work went into fleshing out that setting, and giving they're supposedly making Kiev a full proper army this time round and rumours about Cathay (given what's been said about their incursion in Total War: Warhammer 3) I think there will be plenty to write about

@johnoneill3654

2 жыл бұрын

@@petermartin9224 That would be a dream come true after all these years. Finally seeing or at least reading some lore about Cathay would be amazing. I also think Araby would be a fantastic faction to look into. I saw a mod for Total War: Warhammer 2 that made Araby a playable faction and it's clear they could add a lot to the lore and models if they capitalised on them.

@petermartin9224

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnoneill3654 Araby would be fun to see on the tabletop. If the game is a success, it might happen. I may have to get my tomb Kings again

Not jiving with that Dwarf hate... the grudge is noted in the grump book.

@walkerawhite4698

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I'd like a re-kit of the Vampire Lord/Zombie Dragons to use the Terrorgheist part and put a rider on it.

The sad thing about the griffin and weird elf is that the weird elf is the faction leader while the griffin is a friend he met while shirking his leadership position to galavant around the realm

now i wish the teclis model was just riding the mount and not floating next to it

You guys gotta look at the Grey Seer on Screaming Bell it is hands down the coolest Skaven model

Why not any of the following??? Nagash Belladalma Volga Archaeon Magaboss on Maw-Krusha AKA the Cabbage Katakros (the real bone boy centerpiece) Thanquol and Boneripper Vermin Lord(s) Mega Gargants Mangler Squigs Arachnarok Spider :(

@petermartin9224

2 жыл бұрын

I think the orcs/gloomspite gitz/chaos will be on Wednesday's list. I was surprised that Nagash wasn't on there but Jay probably thought the Black Coach was better...and he was right 🤣

You didn't even look at any Destruction models... woulda loved to see your thoughts on the Mega Gargants or the Orruk cabbages

Lauka Vai is an amazing model! And their paint job is so-so. Find some paintjobs that tie the two together more. I also own that model despite not having a death army.

Do a part 2! :)

I see someone has already explained Idoneth so let me just say a) how awesome Lord Kroak is, I agree!! And b) you guys are awesome!

The Stardrake's armor is the problem. Bulky, bizarrely angled and ultimately unnecessary. Decoration on a dragon? Sure. Armour? I don't think they need that.

Celenars head is so cool!!! I absolutely love the marble statue look on the mask, and helm+ horns look awesome. I give the sculpt a 9, high priest is a super dork tho, takes it to 7

When looking at the screen, you two remind me of Beavis and Butthead

good video i know nothing about AOS and from this video im like WOAH

I prefer the old chunky Stardrake to the new one. Also, 5 for weird vampire-werewolf lady … coz she is 50/50 in herself.

Nagash is my favourite AoS model, took me a while to paint it!

you absolutely nailed the idoneth magic

My big problem with AOS is that the centrepieces are so cool but the standard modles just don't interest me.

Some factions have multiple center pieces as well. I'm not a fan of the lumineths Teclis model but I love the Spirit of the Mountain.

I started with Fantasty, then 40k. Dropped the hobby for about 20yrs, and now at 35yrs old, I’m really into AOS.

"lets start with the good guys!" starts with daughters of khaine

Morathi... Good guys...??? Hmmmmmm

How did you pick Arkhan over Katakros? Please tell me!

@dragnfire95

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that Nagash was looked over as well.

I guess thats why some complain about my huge 40k Slaanesh Daemonprince made from a Morathi while no one complains about it in AoS.

Drycha and Spirit of Durthu are the better centerpiece, since they are actual cool treeish models. Meanwhile you have that elf riding a giant beetle. Not gonna lie, I think the goddess should have been just an big angry tree as well, something along those lines of Warcrafts Night Elf Buildings. As well, I do feel Kragnos should be a Beasts of Chaos centerpiece and because he just looks like a centigor God and not really like an Goblin, Ogor or Orcs god

I think the issue is that most of these big sigmar models are too busy and too big. Big busy mount with big busy hero awkwardly standing on, or big busy hero standing with busy minions and surrounded by busy superfluous surroundings. Not saying old games workshop was better but they were simpler miniatures designed to be painted within a working week and gamed with.

I like the idea of having a 40k model of someone (maybe someone Chaos?) whom has a small form that they are regularly, and then have a second figure of them transforming into a larger form. Idk, could be cool.

EoB: it looks like a honk Me: LMAO! I can't unsee it now

@FYAjibber000

2 жыл бұрын

I am still laughing about this 9 hours later

Lauka vai's biggest problem is its scale as u look at her, her hips are at the level of the shoulders of the lower half so your eyes are asking how can that be 1 body its clearly two but like you both said about the paint job. I would like an example of that model painted in one colour to add another perspective. On another note a way around not using baby skulls because of the unholy barbaric, darkness that may overcome such a person, is to use "shrunken heads " great video 👍👍

How did they forget about Nagash, the Supreme Lord of Centerpiece Models?

Awesome video. Is Nick on greenscreen?

Black Coach was the model that sold me on building a Nighthaunt army.

As a point of correction, the first model (Morathi) used to be the queen of the Dark Elves. Not the nicest people. I should also note that many of these models look like they were a hundred bucks or more American. So I guess GW has given up on the idea of the 'casual' player? Used to be that I could pick up a whole army for $250 bucks. Those were the days...

Teclis is so pricey because you can only play 1 of him so you'll never buy another and he's probably the best wizard in the game. When he casts spells you can choose to either cast 4 spells that go off on 10, 2 spells on 12, or 1 spell on 12 that can't be unbound. You don't roll for the spells. He's in a faction that's all about magic so being a good spell caster makes him insane in his army. He also has a few abilities to buff his army in range. He's one of the best models in the game

Based on your reactions to that DiaperDwarf, I now realize why GW doesn’t bother with Squats in 40K…

@ravener96

2 жыл бұрын

Just make the dwarf cool instead of an ornament. Have him in a granite throne and that kind of thing

@prinstyrio0

2 жыл бұрын

You say that but they loved the Kharadron look, which is more akin to what Squats could look like in 40k with their full on suits and metal beards.

The stardrake with the closed mouth looks like the dog dragon thing from neverending story

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

Falcor!

The deepkin conjure a magical mist that makes it posuble for thier sea monsters to "fly". The mist also hide the memories of the deepkins attacks from survivors and cause hallucinations on those Who fight them

just love this

Ive honestly only ever seen giant snake lady used as the base of a fulgrim kitbash

I know u guys did the zombie dragon but please do the terrorgiest it’s the way cooler version of the zombie dragon

Y’all should do another video of the AoS centerpiece models there’s been some other rad ones that weren’t covered unless you did already which might be the case Edit: I know there’s another one actually but I mean a third my bad I forgot the other one for a second

Stormcast’s Stormy Dragon opens its mouth and makes a sad trombone noise (whomp whomp). Many of the recent undead models have a great sense of motion to them - the 3 ghosts on Arkhan’s base help balance the overall proportions and drive the main model forward; it would look much more plain without them

Not gonna lie. Lord Kroak is very close to perfection 😎

So far, I can't argue against the list, though the vampire lady...I wonder how hard it would be to model armour using green stuff to her lower half and match the style 🤔 From their Lore, I think the reason she's half and half though is to represent how they see themselves (the well presented top half) to the monsters they really are when they lust for blood. Can't wait what you think of Archaon 🤣

Don't play AoS and I have enough 40K minis to paint and to last me several years, but I'm really tempted by the Lord Kroak model - also Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis is another epic model.

All the sylvaneth models look amazing I've got a drycha hammadreth and I don't play sigmar

Steampunk Dwarves are awesome.

the snake-y Morathi model makes me look forward to the inevitable daemon Fulgrim model

I cannot take the bat lady seriously because of how awkwardly she must be flying. She must be bending her human torso backwards so bad and looking like a giant L in the skies

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

interesting, I assumed she couln't fly

@emile1365

2 жыл бұрын

She looks like a cut and shut job to me, as in the torso of both models were just rammed together without rhyme nor reason.

On Idoneth deepkin and swimming through the air: it's magic, ain't gotta explain sh*t

i saw last night for the first time a age of sigmar new stormcast eternal model it was a epic flying dragon it was bad ass

Nick lines the whole video: Mhm..., yeah..., I agree...

Lauka Vai is such a good model! There's a really distinct separation between the two halves which is a pretty bold choice. Admittedly I ended up putting the wings on her back and replacing the lower half with something even weirder but I'd happily buy her again and assemble her as per the instructions!

@EonsOfBattle

2 жыл бұрын

whatup Kirioth! I love Luka too, I may have to pick her up one day just for the experience of painting her.

@Kirioth

2 жыл бұрын

@@EonsOfBattle the armour is super fun to paint, it's absolutely worth getting her. And once you've got her you've got an excuse to buy undead monsters to go with her...

Those prices are just outrageous.

hands down best part of these videos are silly model names ;)

Please keep doing age of signer videos

i Would love to see them make an army called the Eoneth deepkin.

The black coach is deffinetly on the of the best models out there. Also out of the 3 mortarchs Arkham is probably the worst, Neferata or Manfred look so much better.

Amazing title

the stormcast dragon i have issue with the way the front legs look like an afterthought with the pauldron things on them not helping them look like they aren't a completely different scale...............also the Lauka Vai model was not fun to assemble

So, Teclis is 170 bucks because he can cast 4 spells a turn automatically, instead of rolling dice like other Wizards. I modeled mine without the sphinx, I didn't care for the face of the creature either.

@goatman9998

2 жыл бұрын

You must hate making friends

How do you not recognize the teclis model as a sphinx..?

Lord Kroak is taken from the video game actually lol

Just how humongous do the transport boxes for the built AoS models have to be to get them safely from A to B?

@pauldavies9138

2 жыл бұрын

No worse than the Necron Void Dragon, Space Marine Stormraven or Imperial Guard Bane Blade

"Let's start with the good guys" Starts with Morathi

"yeah, I agree..." classic Nick.

Age of Sigmar honestly has way too many centerpiece models. Like, there are factions that have 3+ alone. Great video, but I feel you need to go back and do another round eventually to please everyone. :D

i like em all lol , i want to build a cities of sigmar army with the best of all the races there

What about the destruction centre piece models?

I really like that face on the hyrish model. The floating dude sucks though.

like the video ... its funny please made a video "ranking old warhammer fanntasy tin/metal miniatures out of produktion" like "birdman of catrazza" or the "von zeppel steam tank " or "Malakais golblin-hewer" etc...

Why wasn't Nagash in the Death centerpieces?

My only problem with AOS is they make too many characters look like display pieces rather than soldiers in an army. I want characters to look cool without them looking like something different from the army they're in