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All that shade thrown at Hobbywing, but the Castles are the one's blowing up.

@xibidit

2 жыл бұрын

the castle "on/off switch" apparently have more than 100% power available to the motor, since there is "more top end speed" than with the hobby wing "on/off switch".

@KacKLaPPeN23

2 жыл бұрын

@@xibidit Nah, it's just that the over current protection in the HW units actually works and limits the power output in those scenarios while the Castle will happily keep on pushing past it's limits until it goes up in flames. Brushless ESC's also are a little more complex than an on/off switch...

@xibidit

2 жыл бұрын

@@KacKLaPPeN23 not really man, it's mosfets switching power on and off, and if there is over current protection it would go into limp mode. Connect the wrong motor and wrong battery the esc blows, if the unit is faulty it's usually a mosfet that blows and starts a chain reaction. Take a 45A esc and a 60A esc with the same motor and battery, they will have the same top speed but the 45A esc might blow first. Look at RCexplained's channel if you want technical stuff...

@KacKLaPPeN23

2 жыл бұрын

​@@xibidit I've personally had some higher kv motors (above what the ESC was rated for) reach a lower max. RPM than a lower kv one with HW ESCs. Over current protection is the only sensible cause of this phenomenon I can come up with. If there was an internal RPM limit we'd see the same max RPM but that wasn't the case in my tests.

@xibidit

2 жыл бұрын

@@KacKLaPPeN23 higher KV motors have a lower resistance, probably in some kind of limp-mode since you had too low resistance through your windings. OCP usually cuts the power all together, but I can be wrong, there are some advanced on/off switches out there for sure :)

A man of his words right here and very very respectable. If i was your customer, I would be forever your customer. Owning up to your mistakes and being honest goes a loooooong way. You've earned someone's trust forever. We need more people like you in this world.

I don't think braking caused this. People run the kraton on 8s with big gears, big tires and the same power. The esc was defective IMO.

@MZBallistic

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. My Outcast 8S is pushing 70 mph @ 30lbs with a MMX 8S zero issues.

@AutoBodyEverything

2 жыл бұрын

Awe don’t say that… I’ve seen these go up in flames… but I’m THIS CLOSE to buying a XL2 combo, …. They admitted 5% were defective but those defected ones go up in flames RIGHT AWAY! If you got as much as 5 minutes run time it “could” be something else….🙏

@Das_Lucifer

2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoBodyEverything buy one. It's worth it!

@rcjunkie260

2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoBodyEverything could be 5 seconds or 15 minutes. One never knows till "FLAMES ON" That's the great thing with castle creations, they push the limit!!! And the costumer pays the price!

@michaelregan427

2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoBodyEverything I would personally still buy one of these controllers, in fact might be buying two for one of my twin catamarans and converting them to water cooling. I firmly believe there was no user error here, Raz knows his shit and even Castle knows that lol. The esc was defective.

Super interesting Raz! That beast can only have the best gear and as you pointed out a separate disc braking unit is a must. Can’t wait to see the next instalment!👍🏻

It’s a pleasure to watch and learn. Thank you!

My Outcast 8s EXB with the exact same system in it, fully loaded weighs 30lbs. I'm definitely not easy on the brakes, and the truck is geared high enough that it's hit 65mph. I think the issue here is a combination of belt resistance and a defective ESC.

Hello Raz, Great video! I am running a Kraken KV5TT on 15S with a MGM setup. With MaxAmp batteries and no brakes either. I know this is not a cheep setup but it’s never net me down and although I try to not bash too hard I can’t help but to keep the throttle wide-open as long as the tires will take it 😊. Look forward to your next video.

Picked up my first above 1/10th tonight. A Limitless. Your a good influence ;). Been enjoying R/C since late 1980s. Does not make me an expert. But I know there will be trials and setbacks along the way. Let the butt kicking commence LOL!

A lovely build that , shame about the ESC woofing up in smoke, but great seeing you take it on the Chin and replace the faulty unit 👌

I watch all your videos. I like to learn from people that know what they're doing. Plus great content does not hurt.

Raz that’s a awesome build buddy. Can’t wait too see the full run. 👊🏽💯

kevin talbot showed that the XLX 2 started on fire twice in his videos.

@Basherqueen

2 жыл бұрын

Kevin had way too high kv motors.

@xibidit

2 жыл бұрын

@@Basherqueen why does the motor even exist if the best esc cant run it? it died without load man...

@Basherqueen

2 жыл бұрын

@@xibidit The XLX2 are known for some units being faulty.

@xibidit

2 жыл бұрын

@@Basherqueen I know, but read the above comment.

@oscarjones4788

2 жыл бұрын

@@xibidit different escs can run it it's only a 6s motor he was also running it on 8s

Dope build bro I’d love to see that car with an mgm 12s controller. The 800amp one would be dope. Awsome video

Aint there a temperature cut off on that xlx2? Even with a monster car like that it should have cut off before it self-destruct, even from braking.

Been waiting for someone to do this! Awesome mate thankyou love your work , castle are the new novak

Love your videos man, it's nice seeing what is possible with this hobby when you lay down serious pennies. Also what a community, must be awesome having a load of likeminded guys to enjoy the hobby with :)

@RazShifrin

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And yes:)

@brandonbentley5453

11 ай бұрын

I've found if you get into a local club you don't need to lay down serious pennies. Make due with what you have too. I dominated my local track until it shut down a couple years ago. Now I converted my buggy int GT8 Class and im ripping into the top three already. I run a converted O'Donnell Z01B SG

Oh man that could have been so much worse. Good thing you guys caught it quickly. Glad you did this vid Raz, it's a learning experience for us all. 🙏🏾

Ohhh damn 👀. Always sorry to see smoke. Props to you for standing behind your builds, regardless of what actually went wrong. That Big Girl must be smooth as silk belt driven and sensored. 🍻

Such a clean build like all your builds!

Great build Raz!! Very informative and resourceful. I have yet to add a 1/5 rig to my collection. I'm not sure which I want to invest in as far as either 1/5 gas or electric. Currently leaning towards gas but what would you suggest?

That thing looks amazing! I need one of those.

Honesty goes a long way! Nice Video Raz 🤘

Really want to see a pt2 to this and thank you for another great video

Nice Video and it will help as I just starting out and knowing is everything, Thanks man!

100% respect to you for fixing it for free and for sharing the info

I'm actually a little scared of these Castle "smoke systems" now:-) Anyway, thanks a bunch!

@Basherqueen

2 жыл бұрын

Castle Cremations... 😘 to DK(?)

@bensettos8705

2 жыл бұрын

Batch # please

Kevin! Sick build and vid bro!💯 Gotta add this to the collection

Aww man! That was a beautiful build! I want to try the castle systems, but I’ve been skeptical. Bcuz I seen them burn up. Is that normal?

I had this exact same thing happen to my Kraton 1/5 EXB with that same setup, castle warrantied the esc and I’ve had no issues since. I believe it was one out of the “old batch” and no fault of yours

Very cool car Razz! Too bad about the flame up , part of it I guess ! I just fried another 1717 🤣 going back to castle

Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work would love to get my hands on one of these beast 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

Thanks for the video I never took into account the braking on my baja 5b guess I'm gonna get that on there before running it also can you turn the braking feature off on the xlx2???

Dang! I love the smoke when you guned it! Definitely ran a lot of power through that sucker.

That car was very agile for its size … hope to see it going again even better than first time .. got faith in you 👍👍👍

i considered an xlx2 for one build and passed it up as i didnt want to see £2k+ rig go up in flames then thought they may have fixed the problem so started to consider it again for another build this puts me off.

Hi Raz 🖐️🥰. Nice Clean build from you as always 💪 If my calculations are not totally off, then there was nothing wrong with your setup and gearing if top end is of about 50mph. 💪 Also I am quite 100% positive that the brake rate/gearing/weight of the car should not have exceed any of the known limitations of the XLX2. Not even close. The binding drivetrain isn't helping but what is it compared to any off road rolling resident? Just bad luck and bad ESC? Don't blame me but I personally wouldn't change anything except freeing up the drivetrain and give it another go. 😘😘😘

If you pretin the wire and the pre-fill the cavity in the connector with solder before you saw them together you spend a lot of less time at once putting heat into the connector making it much less likely to deform or melt it. I don't know if that's normally a problem with the QS8 connector but an xt90 would definitely start melting if heat was held on it that long at once.

thanks for your honesty mate and like the rest of us you live and you learn

I going in interested every video that you made . and im learning alot . keepit up 👍🏻

Has nothing to do with brakes. The FG is a baby compared to MCD. The esc was defective, luckily no one got hurt. There is a guy here in Maryland that hit 149mph with the FG running XLX2 and TP motor. Good content as always man

@madmatt2769

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe, but a gem of a car just deserves disc brakes! ESC is probably faulty though…

@HighVoltageRC3080

2 жыл бұрын

@@madmatt2769 I have two brushless FG's and both of them use motor braking. I'm running 8s on one and 12s on the other. xlx and an MGM esc powering the cars and neither one have caught on fire yet. Xlx2 was just faulty... thats all there is to it. We put the same 1100kv/xlx2 combo in another FG and its geared up for about 80mph, no issues in that car either.

@RazShifrin

2 жыл бұрын

@@HighVoltageRC3080 hey, i would love to see the xlx2/1100 in action so i can learn more, is there a video of it? Thanks!

@HighVoltageRC3080

2 жыл бұрын

@@RazShifrin next time I meet up with my buddy I can get some video for you of his car. He's running 23/40 gearing with the 1100kv/xlx2 combo.

@RazShifrin

2 жыл бұрын

@@HighVoltageRC3080 thanks!! Much appreciated, what is the battery configuration over there?

You talk like a collage history teacher....✌🏼😁

OMG that's freaking quick for it's weight! And are those tire smokes? Sick!

Very informative video, I love the FG stuff they are tough as nails but they make em outta Depleted Uranium🤣

From my personal experience with motor drivers and controllers I believe something called back emf killed your esc basically when braking the esc cannot handle the high voltage and current flowing in the opposite direction from the motor back to the esc. obviously when braking the motor is working like a generator and due to the weight and inertia of this car it was to much for the esc to handle which by the looks of things has fried the diode in one of the mosfets and caused a shoot through on one of the half bridges giving you a dead short and obviously some flames, as a solution potentially adding a capacitor bank in parallel with the esc after the battery might prevent this from happening again you need a buffer between the batteries and esc especially when the batteries are fully charged make sure you use some pretty high voltage capacitors to handle the high voltage spikes

Raz your builds make me feel terrible about mine lmao! Your the best, thanks

That car is huge man. Very cool!!

That was crazy I couldn't believe it went up in smoke Your gambling theory was pretty interesting 😁 What a awesome RC 🔥👍✌️

I hope Castle gets in touch with you. Thanks for posting!

I'm a new fan to to your Channel and you did such nice clean work with this car

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us Raz 💯👍💯🍻

Great video man!

That a really sweet car wow. Thanks for sending it yeeeyee. Interesting first chassis in a while that has the motor mounted horizontaly. Holy shit it smoked the tires in a highspeed drift.oh no that was electric smoke?? Nooo

That car is incredible😱😱😱😱😱 Was it literally smoking the tyres all the time 👌🏻 Love the video, and explanation Raz 👍

@RazShifrin

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother!

Very nice car my friend 👍

The issue, which you mentioned, was the resistance. Im currently running the same exact car with an xlx2 and a TP5660. PB has been 114mph (yes, I have video). But Im very very very familiar with FG (owning 6 of them) and know how to go about building them. And that belt resistance is a killer. I bench rolled it until it rolled more freely and took some of the tension from the tensioner under the case. Also, Im not running mechanical brakes even though my model came with them.

@press4258

Жыл бұрын

Just ordered a fg was gonna put the 5870 or5680 which one you recommend?

Must have been bad luck on the ESC. I recently converted my FG marder to 4WD and swapped the MAX5 for a XLX2. Running 8S with a SSS 5694-1000KV, so basically the same setup. It's geared a little lower at 16/46 and 20*/48, but slightly larger wheels. Ran 8 packs so far, mostly parkinglot drifting and never seen more than 120A peaks in the logs. It's heavy but when you're not hitting 100+mph it's shouldn't be pulling high enough amps to destroy it during braking.

Don't be hard on yourself, man! I've seen numerous videos of this very ESC catching fire....Castle cremations strikes again....

First time seeing your channel. You seem like a good dude. 👍

That is one crazy bad ass car!!

Love the content. And info. Thankyou 😊

Welcome to 5th scale bro, love the content

One of my future builds for sure and yes you definitely NEED mechanical breaks on a 1/5 I made sure I left the mechanical breaks in my Losi 5B when I converted it from gas to electric ⚡️

This was awesome 😎 I have one my self a megatec 5th scale car 2wd on 12s my self and I blow them rubber tires all the time so I made my own foam tires on the fg rims and now it works awesome 😎 runs a 1.7 on 132ft know I'm waiting on a new esc by viper rc to run it on 16s a see were it's at I pushing these things to there limit !!! Good luck 😃

My money is on it being a bad ESC, just out of curiosity did you check the batch number ? was it one of the early batch ESC's

@bensettos8705

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing! Had to be an old esc from the 1st batch

@HardcoreRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@bensettos8705 It could well be, just been sitting around and not used until now

I have the same care but I bought the gas version and converted it to electric full castle setup I did have the lehner 3080 n mgm 400a pro but was having some issue's

Love your vlog watch it all the time a new video comes out

@RazShifrin

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!🙏🏻

Helpful Information. I am on the fence with purchasing this chassis.

Looking forward to seeing this beast pushed to its limits ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️and with mechanical breaks

Now I want some 1:5 scale GRP tires!

0:45 I've seen that man on other videos, I believe one of his RCs hit 180mph. I love that man's attitude.

Can you run different sizes pinions on it? Or is it fixed like the first line of Arrma granites?

@RazShifrin

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

👍😲📢 I love the car you set up!!! It looks awsome!!! You really did a great job setting that car up. I would buy one from you!!! Have fun, stay safe, and did I say have fun? 😁 I subscribed and thumbs upt you, so I can't wait to see some more nice cars like this one!!! Ok bye for now... Jeremy in Virginia, VA (east coast)

It seems like most of the esc fires are happening on brand new speed controllers. I'm looking at using one of these motors/esc combos on a vintage 3 wheeler. (Geared to about 25mph) but after seeing this i'm thinking about trying something else.

Castle ADVISES to STOP the use of 2000kv motor or HIGHER due to the different types of wiring DELTA AND WYE. I’m not a pro by any means, this should been updated firmware already but… whoooo knows man. If this car weighs as much as the 1/5 Kraton then it should be geared like we do with Kraton and I’d never put a 2250kv or what not in a Kraton I’d not go higher than 800-1100 kv’s… I LOVED that bmw it’s a BEAUTY thanks for having it on your channel!!!! PLEASE show more of this car or share link of owners videos!! It drives soooo well it’s almost perfect!

hey raz, nice video, can you tell me where you have the Vegas clip from? I wanna see more of those.

I did not understand your explanation with the breaks causing this! Could it be possible that it was the ESC? There were a bunch of xlx2s that caught fire in a similar fashion as this one! Also, I have seen 1:5 scale rcs with this combo and no breaks and they did just fine!

💪🏽🇬🇧💪🏽 will be ordering one of these 100%

Hello, thanks for the useful info.. Iam currently doing a Nitro to EP conversion of a 1/7 scale HSP camelry with Hobbywing Max8 combo. Car is almost ready. I would really appreciate if you could provide any form of advice before I fire up for its maiden run. Thanking you in advance for your reply.

The fact he has *Recruiting Agency* on the roof is absolutely hilarious

God bless sir.ty for all the help. Wonderdul build .id dream of a felony build from you.much love 2u raz

Thanks Raz. Miss ya buddy

It’s either a bad ESC or wire connection between the ESC and the batteries. If anything between the two aren’t super tight beforehand and come loss during bashing sparks or fire can start at that connection point.

Raz honestly that was a nice happy time when the customer was receiving his car, but so sad that all did not go well as the car caught fire during testing and it really beats my understanding how a drive train design can cause a car to burn the ESC.

Thank you!!!!!!

Cool video. It looked as if one of the ABC wires loosened and arc'ed to death. In my FG Audi, the same chassis as yours, I run the ZTW Beast with the Castle 2028 800kv on 12s. 12s is stupid piwer for these chassis. In my FG MT I run the CC XLX2 with the 2028 1100kv. In the monster truck that is the perfect combo on 8s with SMC 120c Graphines. In my opinion, this chassis is better as a 2wd set up, with front brakes.

@RockandRollRC

2 жыл бұрын

It is almost as if you were spying in my garage. I run the same two FG's and setups. Unfortunately, I do not enjoy the limitations of the ZTW. The Fliers are a bit better, and do not limit the Kv as much as the Beast. Cheers.

Also something else to keep in mind, if you're running sensored, if you have to reverse direction of motor it hast to be done within castle link and not by switching motor wires. This was the first thing I actually thought about when I watched this. Also you could consider just not running it sensored at all.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

The car wouldn't even move if you tried to reverse it by switching motor wires.

@jaymitchrc

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoRC if you run it using the Sensored wires and reverse wires...you confuse the esc and would blow the esc. You have to leave wires plugged up aa by cc and would need to reverse setting in esc if motor wasn't going in the correct direction.

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaymitchrc right that's what I was saying. If you don't have the wires in the right order on a sensored setup the motor isn't even going to spin.

Awesome build ,you need to go by the name 'the dentist 'as your clinical clean shop and elite level techniques ,knowledge and products

I wonder if this "tire smoke" wasn't actually tire smoke

My SBR 2.0 is 25lbs.+ stock everything and brakes hard and drives hard on 8S 55-60MPH and I hit that fairly often. The stock motor is 750kv I believe which is quite a bit lower speed than the 1100kv you installed. Makes sense though I supposed why that burned up so fast + gearing is probably crazy on that BMW. What scale is that thing?

Hey Razz are going to be having more of your perfect pass launch control?

Very interested in this build as I have built my own fg 4wd speed run car but not many people out there running these for speed runs so they m following

Raz do you have a financial reason not to blame the xlx2 for these fires or do you really think that the chance you take puting one in is worth it because they are that much better than say a max 4? No disrespect just a honest question.

hey Raz..... so what happened by reducing to 50% power was it still quick or slower....show a folllow up please

Cool video.... I'm not into rc but really interesting nonetheless

Awesome

why no BEC? i ran my FG with similar set up but put a BEC on it

Awesome video raz

what do you mean with the hobbywing esc giving less top speed? it's the batteries that decide how fast you will go, the motor pulls power, the esc does not push power. if settings are maxed out there is 100% of the batteries power going to the motor, there cant be 120% of the power going to the motor just because you have your favorite on off switch.

I have a fg 530 Porsche edition running a castle xlx2 esc as well as a 1050 leopard kv motor with 26/38 gearing and running 81 mph on 8s. My brakes are not at 100% on the esc more like 75%. I don’t know what castle motor you were using….but for some reason…that esc doesn’t like the 1100kv motors. The leopard even though it is a 1050kv has a lower amp rating than the castle 1100kv. I’ve yet to have any problems out of mine, and the fg is a beautiful and fun car for how big it is.