4 reasons to quit your PhD program - When to call your PhD quit!

When you are doing a PhD there are moments when you just want to chuck it all in. But this is a decision that you shouldn't take lightly. There is a very important disclaimer at the start of this video and I think that every PhD student should wait at least two months of hard thinking before quitting.
00:00 - introduction
00:26 - an important disclaimer
04:56 - After the first year "it's just not for me"
07:42 - health reasons
09:49 - supervisor relationship breakdown
12:14 - a bad project
Let me know in the comments what you would add to this list and if your PhD has been something that you have considered quitting or postponing.
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  • @AaDe13
    @AaDe132 жыл бұрын

    I am actually a bright and intelligent person, and I know I'm capable. But academia and research took away all the life out of me. I can do research but I know i am not at all enjoying it. I feel like I'm wasting all my potential (which i could use to do something productive) into something i despise. And what's worse is i have invested most of my life to academia, to the point i don't know what I'm really interested in (because i never got the chance to expolre as research is so demanding).

  • @3kg_tangerine113

    @3kg_tangerine113

    2 жыл бұрын

    I literally could’ve written this myself… Doing a PhD weirdly took away my passion for learning new things and my self-confidence took a massive dive as a result. I’m trying to reevaluate my motivation for doing a PhD at the moment and, despite feeling really shit, I’m hopeful that I’ll figure something out in the near future. All I wanted to say is that you’re not alone and I know what it feels like! ❤️

  • @viktorsaurus

    @viktorsaurus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oof... That hits close to home. Same ❤️ It very much feels like a pyrrhic victory. But, don't fall for the 'sunk cost fallacy'... Unless the situation is a real stalemate and the only way out is graduating, make a U-turn if that's what your gut is telling you to do. I hope you're taking care of yourself ❤️

  • @PHRLoureiro

    @PHRLoureiro

    2 жыл бұрын

    I totally get it. I quit academic life at the very end of my MSc (after 2 years), right after being kinda forced by my supervisor into extending my deadline for defending my dissertation. I had coursed and passed all credits with good grades, organised meetings, written a large part of the dissertation and conducted most of the hard work alone (which was isolating some microorganisms and, after that, preparing some extracts) in a record time, at least for myself. Then, I would need to "just" do some experiments and conduct some molecular biology procedures to actually get results good enough for the defense. It wasn't a big deal in terms of effort, but I simply didn't see any benefits in continuing it. I would have absolutely no financial aid to go on, I felt burnout symptoms and I was miserable psychologically. My former supervisor had assigned me what was an "emergency project" due to the beginning of the covid-19 pandemic, and the experiments had started almost one year late. After the two years, I just felt exhausted, as if my vital energy had been drained. Then, one of my experiments went out completely wrong (my control groups just didn't work as they should, so I would just have to repeat them). Besides that, I had a terrible relationship with my co-supervisor and no support from my actual supervisor. It was the turning point for me. I think it was my first time experiencing actual anxiety symptoms and I decided it just wasn't right for me. Three months after quitting, I feel much better now, and I am still figuring out what is it that I want to do with my life from now on.

  • @andreatorres1287

    @andreatorres1287

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel like I wrote this. 100% Don't know how to leave tho, but yeah, the light in my eyes has gone now haha I only have sarcasm about my situation :/

  • @Simfuchsia

    @Simfuchsia

    Жыл бұрын

    I recently passed my phd and felt the same. But I forced me to work on a small project for myself and i got my passion back. Just take a break afterwards and try to do something for yourself. (I programmed a game on which i generated the music and Animations by mayself and I worked a lot in the garden to get some Balance and peace)

  • @rawanashalaan3272
    @rawanashalaan32723 жыл бұрын

    I’m now a PhD student and my mental health is trash :) ! Lost interest in life ... wish I never thought of a PhD

  • @MrChowboy23

    @MrChowboy23

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, just want to say, your mental health comes before everything else. You say you've lost interest in life, that's awful. Take a break from your PhD, take time off for yourself, talk about it to friends and family if that's possible. And quitting a PhD is the right decision if it continues to harm your mental health. Just know that if you're struggling now, it doesn't mean you'll struggle forever. Things will get better, I want to stress that. Good luck with everything and send me a private message if you want to talk about it more. :) Stay strong!!

  • @rawanashalaan3272

    @rawanashalaan3272

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrChowboy23 thank you so much! Your reply made me feel heard .. I’m okay now I have talked to my sister which was the right think to do and she pretty much said the same thing but it’s nice to read it again. Thank you for offering to talk you’r very nice and again your words made me a lot better and hope others who might feel the same as i did will read it too.

  • @MrChowboy23

    @MrChowboy23

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rawanashalaan3272 Absolutely my pleasure! I'm glad you've talked it over with your sister! I'm still young but in recent years I've grown to understand (I think) how damaging mental health issues can be for someone and how important and liberating talking to others about your problems can be. Again, good luck with everything!

  • @dalaldalal6683

    @dalaldalal6683

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am feeling the same . I am thinking of quitting. I am no more living a normal life .

  • @dalaldalal6683

    @dalaldalal6683

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrChowboy23 I really need your advice. Can we speak about it?

  • @ryantaylorlive
    @ryantaylorlive Жыл бұрын

    Needed to hear this. Quitting today. ❤

  • @lizwilliams2097
    @lizwilliams20972 жыл бұрын

    I am almost regret staying longer in my PhD program, it's been almost 2 years. I've been hopeful it would get better but it's only gotten worse and I have completely lost interest in working on anything academic. Good thing I have teaching that distracts me from my project tasks. After this semester (which in Germany end in March) I'll quit and be free!

  • @sonjak8265

    @sonjak8265

    2 жыл бұрын

    what is your field?

  • @lizwilliams2097

    @lizwilliams2097

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sonjak8265 Nutrition science is my background, but I am currently working in Public Health

  • @mdshakilzaman4439

    @mdshakilzaman4439

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am quitting in 3rd year

  • @JohnDoe-gf7ct

    @JohnDoe-gf7ct

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s the German academic system I don’t blame you

  • @with2280

    @with2280

    Жыл бұрын

    This is me

  • @sophiechurchill9204
    @sophiechurchill92042 жыл бұрын

    I am at the end of my first year in my PhD program and slowly realizing it just isnt for me. I am so grateful that I, unlike many others here it sounds like, have an absolutely wonderful advisor and department. Because of this I have felt like its my fault for not wanting to finish, but it is doing more harm than good right now.

  • @firdevsu9056

    @firdevsu9056

    2 жыл бұрын

    May I ask whether you made a decision on whether you want to continue your PhD?

  • @sophiechurchill9204

    @sophiechurchill9204

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@firdevsu9056 Surprisingly I have actually stayed in. I had a good talk with my advisor about my expectation from the program and my own personal life/timeline and we were able to make some adjustments. My field is anthropology and actually conducting fieldwork is an important part of that. I decided to make a final decision after going to the field, since right now I have only been doing theoretical work which I don't enjoy.

  • @raina2311
    @raina23113 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Andy! I cried when you mentioned mental health. Your descriptions are very accurate. Thank you

  • @DrAndyStapleton

    @DrAndyStapleton

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm pleased that it was useful for you! Good luck with your PhD journey. Remember to seek out help if you need it…

  • @imenebouchakour2272
    @imenebouchakour22723 жыл бұрын

    Your are right! thank you for this video. I am experiencing depression from a toxic relationship with my supervisor, this is no good at all !

  • @zoes4645

    @zoes4645

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, I can relate 😔

  • @demetronix
    @demetronix3 жыл бұрын

    I would add one more reason ( which is my case right now). I am thinking about quitting because I am not learning the skills my supervisor promised I would be able to learn when I started the PhD.

  • @ujalaabbas1861

    @ujalaabbas1861

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the same problems I felt and I quitted

  • @dukherdohonekorunrodone6346

    @dukherdohonekorunrodone6346

    2 жыл бұрын

    damn! THIS! i feel I am learning nothing!

  • @demetronix

    @demetronix

    Жыл бұрын

    update: so a year ago I talked about my issues with my supervisor and of course she promised changes and more help but after just a few months it all broke down again. So after 2.5 years of my PhD I informed her that I will be quitting and today was my last day in the lab. Looking back I think I should have quit a year ago but at least I know I tried everything and I will never regret quitting. Also, I used the time to come up with a different plan for my future and I cant wait to put it into action. After years I am actually happy getting out of the bed in the morning. And now it feels almost comical when I think about how much I cared about it even though I knew it wouldnt help me in my future at all.

  • @Ncore52

    @Ncore52

    Жыл бұрын

    @@demetronix Thank you for this update... I'm enrolled in a PhD program (this is my first year) and have already decided it wasn't for me... I was thinking about just taking the Master's but at this point I don't feel like that it worth it either. I'm glad that you are happy to get out of bed as that is the feeling I am looking forward too as well. This program has weighed more heavily on my mental health than I thought it would. :')

  • @eamond6509
    @eamond65093 жыл бұрын

    Hi Andy - your videos have been a great source of information as I am working on a PhD proposal. It was hard to come to realisation that the relationship with the supervisors would be untenable. When every email and meeting begins with how they don't have time to look at the proposal and then give off the cuff feedback it has not given me hope for the future. So I have decided to return to the workforce instead. This decision was made in consult with family and friends but your videos really helped me to visualize and realise how the future relationship could be.

  • @LarryYuenCheng
    @LarryYuenCheng3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for articulating the experience many of us have but are afraid to bring up publicly

  • @shrijitasgable
    @shrijitasgable3 жыл бұрын

    Very articulate and brilliant, loved this one. Soo many people have these questions because of the social cost of not going ahead with a Phd. Thanks for answering them.

  • @nadinebest8481
    @nadinebest84815 ай бұрын

    Thanks Andy! I actually decided to quit my PhD at that one institution and now I’m just short before a new start at another institution in another city. Best decision ever - there’s always another opportunity coming around

  • @soccersprint
    @soccersprint9 ай бұрын

    When its time to leave, its time to leave. Get out of there if you need to.

  • @ryanglennconda9349
    @ryanglennconda93493 жыл бұрын

    Your video helps us think more cautiously of the things that really matter more on a personal level. The insights are so reassuring and enlightening.

  • @DrAndyStapleton

    @DrAndyStapleton

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ryan! Good luck with your PhD!

  • @wahikorea7379
    @wahikorea73793 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Andy for the valuable content 🌹

  • @rethishan5557
    @rethishan55572 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your honesty and objectivity. Your video helped put things in perspective for me.

  • @DrAndyStapleton

    @DrAndyStapleton

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome!

  • @Sic_Parvis_Magna
    @Sic_Parvis_Magna2 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful and insightful video. Good job beard man

  • @gabriel-mckee
    @gabriel-mckee3 жыл бұрын

    You really nailed it, Andy; thank you!

  • @swishchee
    @swishchee3 жыл бұрын

    8:25 "Where you have lost interest in your normal fun activities." I realized I wanted to leave when I realized that I had no fun activities to speak of. Any escape I made, even for a weekend, would get some kind of scathing email from my advisor about not notifying them about what I was doing on time that wasn't even scheduled in the first place, even when I made arrangements weeks ahead of time with the research group to show up for research meetings remotely. Unfortunately in my case, the option to change supervisor was nonexistent. I basically would have had to reapply because the funding was tied with each advisor.

  • @namrata3836
    @namrata38362 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou so much! Your words were really of great help. ✨

  • @VegetarianFeast
    @VegetarianFeast3 жыл бұрын

    Good video and topic. Cheers.

  • @stanleychan3571
    @stanleychan35713 жыл бұрын

    Just want to say thanks for making this video, as it turns out my awful experience isn't so unique.

  • @hack2science945
    @hack2science9453 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video after doing PhD for 2.5 years and due to bad supervisor lack of instruments and guidence I tired everything

  • @AdvaiticOneness1

    @AdvaiticOneness1

    Жыл бұрын

    You still doing PhD?

  • @jarrodsio
    @jarrodsio2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent content, Dr Stapleton

  • @DrAndyStapleton

    @DrAndyStapleton

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so!

  • @DrJack55
    @DrJack55 Жыл бұрын

    I quit and went to industry. Best decision ever and I'm happier than I ever was in the program.

  • @nicoduqueg
    @nicoduqueg3 жыл бұрын

    Andy many thanks for your videos!! I would like you talk about the loans as source for funding. I do not agree to take one because it is very risky, yet if you could make a video about funding including your opinion about loans (including those loans that waive certain percentage if you achieve your PhD). Regards

  • @shonjagdale
    @shonjagdale5 сағат бұрын

    I started my PhD, but having the most difficult time of my life. The workplace has become very toxic and is giving me anxiety everyday. It also feels like me and my supervisor are on a different page. It just feels like I'm completely stuck and have no idea how to move forward.

  • @PeanutsandPopcorn
    @PeanutsandPopcorn3 жыл бұрын

    37 hrs away from my exit. 😬

  • @patriciajarrett1105
    @patriciajarrett11053 жыл бұрын

    I do not agree that you have the power to change supervisors in the way you describe. That certainly has repercussions (you are the one seen as difficult, not them), so it is not unproblematic. You seem to ignore the power relationship that exists between student and supervisor. That is why bullying occurs. Other members of faculty will not go against another member of staff for a student!! The student is seen as the one with the problem!!!!

  • @DrAndyStapleton

    @DrAndyStapleton

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree that it can be politically challenging to change supervisors. I have seen it best navigated without conflict and pointing the finger. People can come to some sort of agreement like I did when I changed my primary supervisor. If a student is being genuinely problematic (unmotivated with their PhD and confrontational) then I agree that it can be hard to change. Typically, even the other members of the faculty know the issues with each other's supervising style more than they do their own. If you are having a professional or personality clash with your supervisor and approach another to take over without accusing your supervisor of wrongdoing but rather explaining the situation I think there is much more chance that they will understand your situation and agree to take you on.

  • @augustosuris
    @augustosuris22 күн бұрын

    As a undergrad student aspiring to get a PhD, these were timeless advices

  • @alb4079
    @alb40792 жыл бұрын

    PhD killed my mental health. I hate this PhD.

  • @NasarKhan4U
    @NasarKhan4U2 жыл бұрын

    i have a bad relationship with my supervisor becuase i failed to take care of her dog and it started a never ending series of abuse after it.

  • @weylguy
    @weylguy Жыл бұрын

    After realizing that my PhD project wasn't going to work, I seriously considered dropping out. But I found a new project that did work, and I went ahead with it. It cost me two years more effort, but it was worth it.

  • @physchemwithliz5879
    @physchemwithliz58793 жыл бұрын

    Wish I'd seen this sooner!

  • @archanal2494
    @archanal24943 жыл бұрын

    Can you please make a video on writing a proposal for a fellowship etc during the PhD

  • @josephinedykstra3383
    @josephinedykstra33839 ай бұрын

    Oof- I'm somewhere in 3 and 4. Starting my second year, my supervisor wants results, but I don't have the right equipment to do the project easily, so I'm running into "stupid" problems and in the meantime I get a weekly lecture about how I'm incompetent at experimental work and should go computational (no shade to computation folks, I just don't like doing it). Meanwhile I finished a masters, got diagnosed with ADHD, and just started medication. My mental health is still in decent shape (I have a wonderful therapist), and I'm speaking to the department chair Tuesday (after my supervisor has left for the day. Again, broken down relationship means I don't want to talk to her about this yet), so we'll see how this goes.

  • @abbiecolosimo3720
    @abbiecolosimo37203 жыл бұрын

    Do you ever regret doing your Phd, was all the work extra time in academics, worth for what you doing now? Love the videos

  • @Artiofmusic

    @Artiofmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    I regret it ! It wasn’t worth it for me

  • @luzfabiolaarmenta4495
    @luzfabiolaarmenta44953 жыл бұрын

    I am thinking of leaving the Ph.D. project. Some of the reasons you mention have made me consider whether it is worth pursuing. My thesis director is determined to continue a work that another student in environmental legislation left, I for my part am more interested in doing research in of social networks analysis of the actors involved in environmental legislation, my academic committee is made up of the Director and 4 advisers, none of them have worked with social networks, only one knows the subject of legislation, but it is impossible to communicate with him. I have not lost interest in the research work, only in my committee my director, and the institution because they do not contribute anything or give any type of support, especially in the current pandemic situation, it has not been easy at all. What I have considered is applying to another institution, or perhaps another country with some kind of scholarship from the secretary of foreign relations or from the same institution. Although sometimes I think that this Ph.D. is more about persistence. I will continue to give my best as far as I can go without losing my sanity, and if it doesn't seem enough, bye-bye.

  • @dalaldalal6683

    @dalaldalal6683

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too I am thinking of leaving it. My mental health really deteriorated

  • @robensonlarokulu4963
    @robensonlarokulu49632 жыл бұрын

    What if you have never had an advisor for a year, although you searched a lot and could not find a one that fits well?

  • @ib_parametres724
    @ib_parametres7243 жыл бұрын

    Hey Andy, this is my first time here, but thanks for this video. I'm currently a year into my PhD program, and in my case I would like to continue, but I want to switch to a new(but related) area that I have developed interest in. The dilemma I'm having, though, is that I started off with an adviser as he was the one I asked to work with on my application. However, my interest in his research has waned, and now that I'm wanting to change, I feel bad about leaving him and going for someone else, possibly in the same department. Needless to say, he's a great guy who's advised so many successful PhD students, but I'm just worried he won't take it lightly, and being in the same department (of which he's also the associate chair) would lead to weird scenarios years down the road. I'm certain I want to change, but how to approach it without "burning bridges" is the issue right now. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

  • @banggiangle8258

    @banggiangle8258

    2 жыл бұрын

    how are you doing now, did you change your area?

  • @ikennaonyekwelu5459

    @ikennaonyekwelu5459

    2 жыл бұрын

    Need to hear your story too.

  • @TEWMUCH
    @TEWMUCH Жыл бұрын

    Same here. I quit after having passed my qualifying exams. Which upgraded me from being a PhD "student" to "candidate." And that was after failing it the first time. Passing on the second try. So I quit KNOWING I was capable. I knew i was capable when i failed the first time. I just didnt have the time to study. But i re did the exam to PROVE to myself that i could after taking the proper time to get through all the info. But when it came to walking into the ACTUAL RESEARCH that I had proposed. I just DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT. LOL. that's why I quit. And I found other interests I wanted to pursue. Which I have pursued since then.....also to your other point, my advisor was def distant from jump. He was known to be negligent. It just wasn't worth it to me to find another advisor.

  • @AntonySebastian-vh4mu

    @AntonySebastian-vh4mu

    Жыл бұрын

    I have an amazing supervisor in the sense that he is extremely supportive emotionally and is very nice to me. I am his first student (and this is his first teaching position) and and I feel the connection. He is also extremely brilliant as his critical feedbacks to students where he is in their doctoral committee is excellent. However, he rarely reads the academic work I submit and gives bland generic feedbacks due to this. He does the same for the other student doing phd under him. although I have asked multiple times for feedbacks, he continues to give such useless ones. He has also chosen his friends as co supervisors whose expertise do not directly fall under the requirements of my project. I get zero feedbacks, no direction and as my first year is about to end, I feel forced to quit. Any word of advice?

  • @TEWMUCH

    @TEWMUCH

    Жыл бұрын

    @AntonySebastian-vh4mu tough. I'm sorry you're not getting the technical support u need. I would say find another person with expertise that fits even if just slightly. And ask them to read your papers and provide feedback. Also if u haven't maybe try having a meeting about the feedback he does give. Say hey can we go over the revisions together? And for each revision that is generic, ask him a specific question about it. To try to pull more out of him..because with generic feedback. Maybe u aren't doing so bad after all. But u just wanna make sure. U can discuss with him your challenges or thoughts behind a certain section. And ask him what do you think? Just have a conversation but about specific aspects of your research.

  • @antonysebastian471

    @antonysebastian471

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TEWMUCH you're probably right. I need to compensate for this by demanding more. Thanks for your advice, I have a couple of months to finish my first year...I'll give your advice a shot.

  • @TEWMUCH

    @TEWMUCH

    Жыл бұрын

    @antonysebastian471 ❤️💙 all the best, my friend! I know it'll work out for the best.

  • @missmarvellous2247
    @missmarvellous22472 жыл бұрын

    Any mothers here?? Anybody quitted phd for kids??

  • @dereathacross1991
    @dereathacross199115 күн бұрын

    Another reason to quit is because your advisor quits. I spent the past 10 yrs of my life working with toxic supervisors, apathetic supervisors, and finally you find the right one and he quits. I don't want to go through all of that again. Then there is the research area. I loved the research area and there are no other faculty that specialize in that particular area or have interest in it. Who wants to start over with someone else in an area you don't have interest in?

  • @camilom8203
    @camilom8203 Жыл бұрын

    I would that someone said me about my mental healt, I leave my Phd by the reasons 2, 3 and 4, I had a psichotic outbreak before my PhD my advisor was mental health problem and not were interesed in my Phd and he not understand the kind of problem where we are. On the other hand we had a result so its so hard leave the Phd.

  • @nicky_bee
    @nicky_bee2 жыл бұрын

    I love my phd and have a supportive supervisor. But I have bad mental health because of Things that happened in real life, and it has affected my academic energy severely. How to deal with this?

  • @firdevsu9056
    @firdevsu90562 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t started my PhD yet (will start in Fall) but I kinda got pushed into doing a PhD. Already before starting it 80% of the time I want to quit but sometimes I can motivate myself that it will be for the best. I haven’t signed any contract yet but as I am a student at the university I’ll do my trajectory at, I am really scared of the consequences of I’ll decide to quit even before signing the contract (but I have by email accepted the offer in February). Has someone experienced something similar or can anyone give me a bit of guidance on what to do?

  • @katielebedeva6009

    @katielebedeva6009

    Жыл бұрын

    I had a similar situation. Before starting I had a feeling that I do not want to do it. I was given a scholarship and the environment of my lab is very friendly so I have bit my tongue and enrolled. Now a month in, I realise it is still not for me and I will be leaving it. Listen to your intuition, it knows what is best for you. There are so many other opportunities out there

  • @fuhodev9548
    @fuhodev9548 Жыл бұрын

    I want to quit but it is just my 1st year of PhD, if I quit, I have to go back to my country or back to the country that I've done the Master. But I want to stay in the US and find a job, is it possible and how can I do this? I really need your help !!!!

  • @marleyalvory3044
    @marleyalvory30443 жыл бұрын

    I always feel "guilty" of taking a break. Hence, I work almost everyday...most reading, panicking, worrying. I feel so stupid. Is it ok to take a week break? 😭

  • @DrAndyStapleton

    @DrAndyStapleton

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is absolutely okay to take a week off of your research. Making sure that you have some downtime means you will be more effective in the long run. Be kind to yourself and remember that lots of little steps add up over a long period of time.

  • @marleyalvory3044

    @marleyalvory3044

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DrAndyStapleton thank you for the kind advice 😊

  • @AntonySebastian-vh4mu
    @AntonySebastian-vh4mu Жыл бұрын

    I have an amazing supervisor in the sense that he is extremely supportive emotionally and is very nice to me. I am his first student (and this is his first teaching position) and and I feel the connection. He is also extremely brilliant as his critical feedbacks to students where he is in their doctoral committee is excellent. However, he rarely reads the academic work I submit and gives bland generic feedbacks due to this. He does the same for the other student doing phd under him. although I have asked multiple times for feedbacks, he continues to give such useless ones. He has also chosen his friends as co supervisors whose expertise do not directly fall under the requirements of my project. I get zero feedbacks, no direction and as my first year is about to end, I feel forced to quit. Any word of advice?

  • @Rahulsharma-rg8ce

    @Rahulsharma-rg8ce

    10 ай бұрын

    get out of it bro, i am in 4th year, this was the same case with me, my supervisors are good people but my research area did not align with them and they had no idea of my direction, I say if you get out you will be far more happy. i am struggling now to somehow finish myself

  • @mdshakilzaman4439
    @mdshakilzaman44392 жыл бұрын

    Before starting PhD, I should have realized the situation. But I liked to believe that I am an academic person as most of my achievement is in academic area. I am quitting my PhD at the end of 3rd year. Quitting PhD does not hurt me..Quitting PhD at 3rd year does.What a looser... :(

  • @AdvaiticOneness1

    @AdvaiticOneness1

    Жыл бұрын

    What made you quit? Which subject?

  • @md.shakilzaman2906

    @md.shakilzaman2906

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvaiticOneness1 The working relationship with my supervisor got worse. My topic is machine learning.

  • @AdvaiticOneness1

    @AdvaiticOneness1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@md.shakilzaman2906 Hope you are doing good now! Don't give up! There are many other things to do in life!

  • @bencham2458

    @bencham2458

    Жыл бұрын

    All the best man.

  • @elahesh6886

    @elahesh6886

    Жыл бұрын

    I want to quit my phD and I am at the end of my 4th year. Some of the things just don't work. There is no losing or winning.

  • @MM-jt5st
    @MM-jt5st2 жыл бұрын

    This is my life

  • @mprone
    @mprone7 күн бұрын

    If you are reading this comment and feel like this video hit too close to home, please leave Academia now. Not tomorrow, not next week, not next month. Now. Don't fall for the "sunk costs fallacy".

  • @thezly8947
    @thezly89473 жыл бұрын

    What if your fellow scholar steal your model and idea and your professor support it,sharing your ideas to that person?how can I cope up with such situation??pls help.now not feeling to discuss any thing with my supervisor

  • @AdvaiticOneness1

    @AdvaiticOneness1

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh no, that's bad.

  • @sneharaina2943
    @sneharaina29432 жыл бұрын

    My paper got rejected 3 times n I am frustrated and depressed now... don't know what to do...this is 4th yr of my ph.d

  • @HighlandManga

    @HighlandManga

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too lol. Feel a bit trapped, stress if you stay, regrets if you leave?

  • @AdvaiticOneness1

    @AdvaiticOneness1

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi sneha, which subject are you doing your phd in? I need some advice.

  • @retroSTAAR
    @retroSTAAR2 жыл бұрын

    My supervisor pretty much told me that I should think of quitting and it’s only been a couple months

  • @marykariuki7381

    @marykariuki7381

    2 жыл бұрын

    My first supervisor suggested the same but I asked myself, why was I doing a PhD. I had a greater goal for it and so I said No! At some point I was suggested to settle for an MPhil. I said no! Long story short. I got my PhD is September. I only wish I had been kinder to myself.

  • @retroSTAAR

    @retroSTAAR

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marykariuki7381 that’s great! Good for you 😊 Did your working relationship with your supervisor get better? I am still thinking about it, I have asked myself the same question you asked yourself why am I doing the PhD? And to be honest with you my only answer for that is that I could not find a graduate job during the pandemic and this opportunity came to do the PhD

  • @marykariuki7381

    @marykariuki7381

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@retroSTAAR our relationship got worse. Honestly, I hate her to this day. Luckily she moved to a different country, as it was her project. She couldn’t abandon it unless I quit. She offered to stay but ended up disappearing on me for years 😅😅😅. I never heard from her until I passed my viva. I guess I was lucky in that aspect. Though she really did my head in. I guess it’s really up to you. Do you love it? Will the supervisor change? Can you change them? How will they impact on your PhD on the long run? I wanted a PhD not necessarily to work in academia for some advanced skills to start a health advocacy start up of some sort.

  • @marykariuki7381

    @marykariuki7381

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@retroSTAAR hope this helps

  • @xxx-sp8fh
    @xxx-sp8fh4 ай бұрын

    I almost start my PhD and I already regret it.

  • @lenithemonster7119
    @lenithemonster71193 жыл бұрын

    How can you downgrade to masters when you already have a masters degree?? :D I dont get it. And yes, I want to quit my physics PhD program.

  • @Heyu7her3

    @Heyu7her3

    Жыл бұрын

    If your program is in a different subject from the subject you got your masters, then you'll have two different masters. Otherwise it'd be in the same subject.

  • @patriciajarrett1105
    @patriciajarrett11053 жыл бұрын

    How do I post a private comment to you please

  • @DrAndyStapleton

    @DrAndyStapleton

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can send me an email andy(@)andrewstapleton.com.au

  • @qianliu9787
    @qianliu97872 жыл бұрын

    would quitting phd do harm to the advisor?

  • @AdvaiticOneness1

    @AdvaiticOneness1

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. If it's funded.

  • @sasha_markovsky

    @sasha_markovsky

    Жыл бұрын

    No, he can always hire the next person. Put yourself first.

  • @alb4079
    @alb40792 жыл бұрын

    What are you talking about, mate? There is no reason even to enter a PhD. Nobody should ever enter PhD unless this person really LOVES this nerdy depressive way of life.

  • @AdvaiticOneness1

    @AdvaiticOneness1

    Жыл бұрын

    I was already depressed in my masters, can't even think about doing PhD. But I'm facing pressure from my friends and teachers 😭

  • @alb4079

    @alb4079

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdvaiticOneness1 mate, what pressure. Ignore them all. Don't do anything which makes you depressed to such an extent.

  • @AdvaiticOneness1

    @AdvaiticOneness1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alb4079 You are right! Thanks for your comforting words, it means a lot ❤️

  • @JohnDoe-gf7ct
    @JohnDoe-gf7ct Жыл бұрын

    Most of the times it’s the supervisor’s fault

  • @AdvaiticOneness1
    @AdvaiticOneness1 Жыл бұрын

    Nobody cares about mental health, you have to work like a robot.

  • @md.shakilzaman2906

    @md.shakilzaman2906

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly. There is no space for mental health in PhD specially in USA.

  • @richardthegingerbo909

    @richardthegingerbo909

    Жыл бұрын

    that's mental!

  • @willyh.r.1216
    @willyh.r.1216 Жыл бұрын

    If you already step into it, never quit. Finish it. Just manage your time and stress. Try to find meaning and joy while doing it. Good luck!

  • @sasha_markovsky

    @sasha_markovsky

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually it's smart to know when to stop. I pushed myself and finished, but it did come at a cost. Every situation is different and for some people is healthier to change labs or look for a career that fits their interests better! Same with any job - it's just one part of life...

  • @fritzdow4819
    @fritzdow48193 жыл бұрын

    Is attempting suicide 5 times in 6 months a good reason to quit?

  • @sherlockholmes882

    @sherlockholmes882

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wtf. If you are serious about what you wrote, please leave it. Get a life

  • @shrijitasgable

    @shrijitasgable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Quit and be free. A Phd is over hyped.

  • @Ray5C0rn3r

    @Ray5C0rn3r

    3 жыл бұрын

    man if you are serious about what you said, leave, that's some serious situation you are in. Leave and don't look back, PhD isn't worth your life.

  • @Charlie-gv3zt

    @Charlie-gv3zt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sherlockholmes882 Unbelievable 🤣🤯.

  • @fritzdow4819

    @fritzdow4819

    2 жыл бұрын

    I remembered I left this comment here. If anyone happens to care, here's an update: I managed to pull my shit together with the help of my family and fiancée. I am going to defend Q1 2023!

  • @lordblazer
    @lordblazer Жыл бұрын

    I quit after I got a job in data science making six figures...... never finished the degree, and some folks look at me as if I am a failure for choosing money over what they perceived to be my passion.. I did genocide research btw. yea it was a passion, but I was burnt TF out and ain't none them mofos wanted to pay me.

  • @divyapatel6390
    @divyapatel63902 жыл бұрын

    Goog

  • @teatea5528
    @teatea5528 Жыл бұрын

    I am about to quit since my supervisor totally make me feel sad for 2 weeks even it is other fault

  • @mickeykozzi
    @mickeykozzi3 ай бұрын

    Never ever quit your PhD. Every single person that I have seen quit their PhD end up being a loser in life. Dont get sucked in by listening to others that are weak and quit. Keep going you can do it! Don' t be a loser!

  • @TAJ1974

    @TAJ1974

    3 ай бұрын

    Quite a thoughtless comment really. A person’s mental health comes first. And quitting is a hard decision which does not define or deserve being called a loser. Have some empathy for others……

  • @mickeykozzi

    @mickeykozzi

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@TAJ1974you speak like someone who quit their PhD. Go away.

  • @TAJ1974

    @TAJ1974

    3 ай бұрын

    @@mickeykozzi One should never make assumptions! Did your PhD not teach you that? And if I “go away”, I’d be a loser, no? 🤣

  • @memeking5948
    @memeking59483 жыл бұрын

    If you got a well paid job during your PhD, would that be enough reason to quit?

  • @DrAndyStapleton

    @DrAndyStapleton

    3 жыл бұрын

    If the job is something that you enjoy doing and you are just doing it because of money I think it would be a reasonable reason for postponing your PhD. However, you also have to consider the opportunity cost of leaving your PhD. For example, would your PhD allow you to access higher pay scales in that job later on? Those are the things I'd weigh up.

  • @anweshabanerjee9582

    @anweshabanerjee9582

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DrAndyStapleton Can you please make a separate video on this topic? It will really help a lot!

  • @boredscientist5756
    @boredscientist5756 Жыл бұрын

    Do NOT quit your PhD after 3+ years... Golden rule! No matter what, eat it up and finish it! I myself had huge trouble after 3rd year. It totally took 2 more years to finish it! I thought about quitting every day for 2 years, i had all the reasons for it, but ultimately, got my PhD and a full position in the mean time. DO NOT ABANDON IF YOU ARE CLOSE TO THE END!

  • @JazziKai

    @JazziKai

    Жыл бұрын

    This is my experience. Since the third year I’ve had a horrible experience and it’s added on over another year and oftentimes I think about quitting. Every time I think I’m about to submit I get delayed. I really didn’t want to take this PhD into 2023 and I’m meant to be submitting in Jan but just feel like this journey will never end.

  • @boredscientist5756

    @boredscientist5756

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JazziKai this adventure will end, no worry! Good luck!!!

  • @mickeykozzi
    @mickeykozzi3 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @zinedinezidane2364
    @zinedinezidane2364 Жыл бұрын

    You are killing hopes of students who wants to pursue phd in the future. Better not to watch your videos. You talk negative sides always.

  • @richardthegingerbo909

    @richardthegingerbo909

    Жыл бұрын

    . . . says the guy who quit the 2006 World Cup final

  • @markjones7687
    @markjones76872 жыл бұрын

    Andy mate, as a fairly recent graduate I have to say there was never a moment I thought I should quit as you assert that everyone does. Moreover, their is a lot of shame in leaving a PhD. After all, you have accepted a big bag of cash and a lot of other people's time and energy, and then you say, 'Nah not for me.' I can smell the entitled narcissism of those who didn't take it to the end from here.

  • @lamborghinifan13

    @lamborghinifan13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cash means nothing compared to mental health. Have some empathy. Some people will flourish with PhD work others won't. Accept that. Nothing to do with weakness.

  • @markjones7687

    @markjones7687

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lamborghinifan13 Tell the schmuck working every hour of overtime he can get to keep his family afloat that you have just thrown away the last 20 years of taxes he has paid and see how much empathy you get.

  • @lamborghinifan13

    @lamborghinifan13

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markjones7687 God bless you.

  • @johnsonezenwankwo3497

    @johnsonezenwankwo3497

    Жыл бұрын

    Not everyone got a big bag of cash and time and energy. I'm paying by myself and still not much support

  • @agathaamara8449

    @agathaamara8449

    11 ай бұрын

    Also you get work done in that time, which you're mostly underpaid for. I don't see any waste in that

  • @abhijeetsingh1306
    @abhijeetsingh1306 Жыл бұрын

    It's my 11th month into PhD. I am more on the side of bad advisor category. He keeps on demotivating me calling me words (like: are you insane, stupid, do you even have brains , i will stop your phd if i don'tknow something and that's in the 8th month etc.). From first day he has been in directly and directly passing comments on my skills etc and says "I say a lot of things but they don't mean anything". Practically there is no transfer of knowledge and much more. I have been anxious and non stop in depression. I am just done.

  • @sasha_markovsky

    @sasha_markovsky

    Жыл бұрын

    That is one sick individual. Can you report him to a higher-up or an ombudsman? Are you part of a graduate school? This is not ok by any means and speaks a lot of this person. Don't let him make you doubt yourself, even if you don't know things, that is ok and not an excuse to be abusive. No one knows everything, there are only people who admit it or those you pretend.