I love my GS for its versatility. Last week rode up into Canada for a Fishing trip . Rode 200 miles of pavement then rode 35 miles dirt roads back to lakes to camp and Fish for a few Days . I consider this kind of riding true adventure riding going places I have not gone before. I may go mid size as I get older maybe when I reach 80 in 3 years . But for now ride on.

@misiakw

Жыл бұрын

middle and big ADV's are bougth with holidays in mind. Enduro bikes - dayrides in mind. those are major differences in ride they ro. once you use your bike for what it's designed for, it starts to be great bike.

You nailed it. I ride a GS Adventure mostly for touring, but love that I can ride civilized trails offroad with no problem

You have perfectly described what those large ADV bikes are about! I might add that some of those bikes are actually pretty good fun on road. A large displacement twin cylinder always puts a smile under your helmet.

Just finishing a 10 week, solo, adventure touring trip of the US and been camping in tent and using my camping stove every single day. I like the power and ability of my 1190 Adv to carry my home and me on everything from dirt roads to freeways. Crossing the Wyoming prarie in thunderstorms, whipping rain and strong wind for a full day it is actually nice to have a heavy bike compared to a small on. 😊

You captured it! I own a GSA and that is exactly what it is. It is an amazing road bike that my wife and I can ride all day long. If there is a trailhead we want to get to down a gravel or dirt road, I am able to head to it with no worries.

@timm1583

Жыл бұрын

The BMW is quite good for the size and weight it is, but I'm glad I got rid of my 1100 for a middleweight

Problem with a big ADV like my former Super Adventure R is that if you run street tires, you may as well just ride a street bike. And if you run knobs, you can't use all that power on dirt OR on asphalt as the rear tire just spins up long before you are using the available power. I tried a SAR, also a 890 AR, got rid of both, and now have a '24 T7 coming.

@wallishaines7247

5 ай бұрын

yeah I agree somewhat although I have both the sar and 500 excf, I can get most places I ride with the sar although it's point and shoot, and the 500 is a beast but will bounce of a pebble and get in more places. the power to weight is the same, tyres are more dirt orientated and sar is 60/40

Well explained and a positive reminder for all the so-called “marketing guru’s”. Choose the correct tool for the job - there is no one bike that does it all 😎

You are exactly right! Thank you!! I used to ride 10,000 mile on the US highways each year, on a Goldwing. I tried it on a bonneville an NC750x and even a Tiger 800. Only the big bagger worked. You need the power, stolid road presence, and the rider geometry to carry you over 700 miles a day of riding. A small or middle sized bike wouldn’t do. HOWEVER, for off-roading, even a 200 kg plus “mid size” adv is a bit much.

Solid information! Truth in advertising at last. But you didn’t mention how cool these bikes look!

Spot on!👍

Nailed it. For long distance comfort with a passenger and luggage there's nothing better. Personally I don't find them fun off-road at all, but plenty do, to each their own. About the comfortable rider triangle/ergos, agree completely, but just want to add: if you're getting an ADV for the ergos, give the unmodified bike a chance, they really are very good. I know from experience a lot of the bar risers in this vid would give me crippling shoulder pain after a day or two, and I'm not short.

@paulyflyer8154

Жыл бұрын

Yes I'm amazed how some people throw away millions of pounds and thousands hours of research by the manufacturer In favour of cheap modifications because they think they know better. I always try and keep as much stock components as possible and I invariably get a better price when I sell.

I like the looks of these big bikes, however the weight of these things is just something that I can’t get used to. Yes I have seen little Pettit ladies riding them but still feel they are just too heavy for my liking. Cheers from Oz 🇦🇺

They are not so versatile. Driving my 1200cc in the city is a real nightmare. 3ven parking it is a frustrating experience... No tbanks. Now I'm looking for a light 450cc like the new himalayan.

@MrEtnorb

Жыл бұрын

Agree, the more weight means more hassles and stopping/starting 240kg bikes is a pain. Try picking up a 1200 a few times by yourself and you will wish you were on a single.

@xpusostomos

Жыл бұрын

What is tbank

@giuliobuccini208

Жыл бұрын

@@xpusostomos a typo... sorry. "No thanks." P.S. Damn! I hate typing on the tablet with that little characters and sensible screen...

I can ride a bike as good as them people in the ads but realise I have to pay for it when it goes down so you slow down , oh and being stuck in the middle of no where because you bike is broken because you went full send isn’t a really good holiday now is it lol

The reason I shy away from Big bikes is speed limits I can't use 140+ horsepower

I wanted a dual sport but I knew I would get more use out of a larger adv bike. I live in northern California surrounded by twisties fire roads, dirt roads and trails. I live rural and use my ADV to commute to town through the twisties to get supplies and visit friends. I have soft bags and a tail bag that makes it so versatile for fun adventure and every day chores. Off road she's big and I'm use to my sur-ron so I take it easy. I'm 45 y/o so every fall is getting harder on me. I'm glad I choose a used 2014 tiger 800 xc. She takes me everywhere I need to go and I ride her with respect ,especially off road! Love channel Solid. Keep on making!

This video is spot on! I bought my 22 ATAS for a great long distance tourer that would be good for 2up and to hit unimproved roads, fire roads, and ride through state parks.

Hi I think you summed up the reason so many people own a large adventure bike, most are very experienced riders who have ridden all manor of motorbikes and have come to the conclusion that for all of the reasons you outlined, and the ergonomics make them almost the perfect motorcycle. The sales figures for the GS and GSA prove that point. Thank you I enjoyed your assessment.

Thanks, very valid information on big Adventure/Touring Bikes. I have my Triumph Tiger 900GT and its been perfect for long distance rides and I do go on dirt roads which is my skills limit.... David...Adelaide/Kilburn....Tiger 900GT & Scrambler.....

Watched a few video in your channel. Love your alternative, logic and beyond marketing approach. Keep up the good work! Thanks

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback 👍

I always thing about A long way around with big Adventure bike. The possibility of the journey

I am a longtime KLR650 rider so I like that style of bike. My wife and i are looking for a larger touring bike and I was looking, of course, at a Goldwing. The kids are older and we can do some us time on a bike. My wife like the Multistrada style better. I was on the edge about this but you hit all the points I needed to hear to make the decision obvious for me. Thanks.

Cheers mate and G'day from NSW... I think that you've hit the nail on the head for Oz at least. With so much distance and dirt after you leave the Big Smoke, having a dirt worthy big(ish) bike is pretty much essential, unless you love highway driving, and who does? I got seduced by sheer elegance into buying a BMW S1000XR a few years ago and just sold her, after feeling frustrated that I couldn't confidently turn off the bitumen. Sure she was a blast on the road and I did sometimes stray, but her tyres are really sport bike tyres, and will work ok on dry dirt, but the bike quickly becomes a menace if you are caught out on dirt and it rains (trust me on that). I've replaced her with an F850GS, with nobbies and all the fruit, in the hope that that I can whittle the bike collection down to one bike. An elusive quest that I've failed miserably at so far after more than 50 years of throttle twisting... Thanks for your channel!

Spot on! Totally agree with you, my 1200gs is a great touring bike that permits me to do gravel and medium to easy off road (my skill level).

Just picked up a Pan America. My DR650 is still in my garage as well.

You hit on the nail i bought my second bike 1000 2018 v strom DL it is great on logging roads some trails but i know my limits . They show the wrong message of them with a pro rider tearing up the roads that is not true lots of people hurt because of that . Great video !!

You nailed it. My Honda ATAS DCT is a Swiss Army knife motorcycle; not perfect at everything, but can do anything. I like the fact that if it falls down I don’t ruin $4000 worth of pretty plastic bodywork.

I bought Xt1200 two years ago for touring was looking at the 900 tracer but was to small for me. Soon as I climbed aboard the 1200 I knew it was for me we have done many thousands of km's & I would not go back to anything else. My background was dirt bikes for 30+ year's prior.

@algojeff

11 ай бұрын

The XT1200 is really a perfect match for my 6,1 - 225 lbs body. It fits me like a glove and with the technology, I can adjust so easily to changing terrains and conditions. What an easy bike (except for the lifting weight ;-0 ). My occasional passengers love it too (wife, kids). Superb on tarmac, even better on gravel, but stay away from mud and sandy dunes. I used to change bikes every two years, or so, until I bought my ST in 2020. Won’t move away in any predictable future.

To each their own, I guess. A KLR and a KLX work good for me. I dirt iked Harleys all over in the day, so if a rider wants an over-complicated boat with a skid plate, I say more power (literally) to them.

Your videos are informative and unbiased. I enjoy your videos very much! You need to get some merchandise so I can buy some stuff like, coffee cups, tee shirts, hats, key changes, stickers or even a baby clothes. Can you seeing your new child sitting in their high chair with a COS logoed bib!

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

Great idea 💡

Great video. Thanks for making this. I have been riding motorbikes since I was 16. Years ago, I had a BMW 1100 RS, but I changed countries, could not take the BMW with me, and ended up on a Harley Dyna Super Glide. While the seating on the BMW 1100 RS was pretty comfortable, on the Harley, it's not, at least not for me. Both become scary pretty fast when leaving solid ground - asphalt. Seating comfort and the ability to occasionally ride a gravel road at a decent speed will make me change to a big adventure bike, which, for me, is just a versatile tourer.

Great comments on the big ADV bikes. I consider my Africa Twin the "mini-van" of the motorcycle world. It does everything pretty well until the trail gets very technical. They are just to heavy for an average rider's skills, even it they have a lot of off road experience.... like me. I like the big bike ADV format for touring broken up back country roads, gravel/jeep trails and though I don't care for it, miles on the slab. Loaded with my camping kit, I have a blast on it. I'm still looking for something better for more technical off road touring. I'm going to see how my KTM 500EXC does with a minimized camping kit but seriously thinking of swapping it for a DR650. I'm 65 years old and I mostly ride alone so being able to pick the bike up multiple times a day is a necessity. I don't crash a lot, but it happens and I need to be able to deal with it myself.

Yep, you're spot on Solid

I sort of agree, but isn't it "Adventure touring"... not just "touring", because that is what makes dirt roads inclusive and capable as part of the route the tour takes. I think it sums it up better anyway. I realise 'adventure' means something different to everyone, but lets be honest, if your touring on tar roads, is that really an 'adventure'? That's where these bikes come to their own; the offroad bit!

You make great videos. I’m glad I subscribed! Thanks

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

Cheers👍

Great video!

With proper training, you can do a lot with the bigger bikes. People get in trouble when try to off-road them without knowing what they are doing

@xpusostomos

Жыл бұрын

Heck, I get into trouble on an actual dirt bike

@chrisvodka2412

Жыл бұрын

Know your limits ....

@xpusostomos

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisvodka2412 you have to hit those limits before you realise

@chrisvodka2412

Жыл бұрын

@@xpusostomos yeah, and with this in mind practise is king.

I'm now 68 years old and you just described the 4 reasons I own my Africa Twin DCT 😀

Brilliantly done as usual mate 😉

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

Cheers 👍

Well said. I would argue, just as rtwpaul has before, any adv bike weighing over 400lbs is a "heavyweight bike'''- meant for long highway jaunts to be comfortable- because when it comes to picking them up, it becomes pretty clear what class they all really belong in. To travel across the world or across the country, esp alone and doing a lot of back roads and dirt tracks, a lightweight adv bike is the way to go.

Comfort and good amount of power as needed. For those who likes the highway or some not too much technical off-road. Concern: weight. 200 pnds difference is huge. Meaning more maneuvering in serious terrain without struggling.

What’s funny is most of the guys that complain about big bikes being “too heavy” to take off-road can’t even ride hard trails on proper dirtbikes 😂

As everyone else put it. You nailed it. Perfect for the long hall and you can take a dirt road and not worry about damageing it.

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

touring, bit of gravel, rough looks, quality of travel, and you feel as sitting on top of a landrover or a monster truck! In BMW terms: a GSA = RT which can go further. (I still miss the stereo on the GSA ;-0)

I just got back into motorcycles after 3 decades away. Got a 2023 Ducati DesertX 2 months ago and already have 2.6k miles on it (even with the Texas heat). Been exploring lots of double track dirt and gravel roads in the area, lots of hidden lakes. Will be doing some cross country rides starting in the fall. Feels great to be back in the saddle.

@chroniclesofsolid

11 ай бұрын

Lovely bike the Desert X , enjoy and welcome back 👍

You put it in a nutshell my Africa twin is the best bike I have owned it will go off-road but main reason I have it is as a long distance tour and and general road road bike I also have swm rs300r for the real hard off road stuff which is horrible on the road

Sold my Harley bought 2016 africa twin 2nd hand and no sore back or tailbone, plus the wife loves to ride it as well.never going back although 2023 africa twin looks convincing. Great video 👍

@jasondavis4421

4 ай бұрын

African twins are off the table after there poor decision in eco friendly paint.. there rust buckets and they start rusting in the first couple thousand miles

Where I ride being able to choose gives you a hundred times more options for half a days ride from the house. The good paved roads aren’t many. Bid adv-bikes also copes great with bad paved roads. I rode a Tiger 800 XCA up until recently and I consider it almost up with the 1200 gs in bigness 😂

Comfort,comfort, comfort and versatility.

Even small pickups have a payload large enough for 250 kg. You should carry ratchet straps of an appropriate size like used on semi-trailer loads.

I had a 2005 R1200RT which was cramped and heavy. A ride on a 1200 GSA showed my a much better riding position, excellent protection and far better touring capability. Ok, I often used it for shopping. It never went off-road but managed 850 miles from France to Slovenia in 15 hours without discomfort other than the freezing conditions. Even then, heated grips were superb. Now, just too heavy and wide in the traffic. Still hanker for a 1250 GSA all the same…..

i dont think anyone buys a multi-cyl Adv bike thinking their going to do hard enduro regardless of the marketing ??

@xpusostomos

Жыл бұрын

Depends if you've ever been in the dirt and understand how hard it is

I love my 1190 Adv EDS, comfortable and powerful but I take the 640 Adv when going off road . The 1190 has road tyres.

We’ll said COS. Just got a Husqy Norden because I want to tour more. Heading out for a big day trip in 15 minutes 😁

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, I would walk straight past the 890 to a 901 as well. Enjoy the trip👍

Is there a realistic 'average measure' of the kind of dirt road the big adventure bikes are made for? Marketing show extreme categories without mentioning the exceptional skill level of their contracted riders. I for one uses the thumb rule to ride roads which are fit for any sedan (family vehicle). A dirt road more gnarly than aforesaid, then I use at least a smaller dual sport or enduro bike.

Discounting the "People" reason and focussing on your other three reasons, a pure touring bike is better at pillion, luggage and rider comfort and worse off road (obviously) An honest assessment of the split and needs would direct you one way or the other. I have a Road King and have had a 650 Vstrom. Once you load up an ADV with a pillion and two peoples luggage I would be very hesitant to take it on anything more than gravel, however the road king is comfortable for thousands of km with two people and luggage, and not a disaster on smooth gravel..

Well said....

Just hope that other manufacturers will follow Kove 800X and Aprilia Tuareg idea. Or maybe reviving Pegaso idea again, why not?Middle weight adventurers with good power. For me anything above 200kg is too much 🙂

Bought my Moto Guzzi Centenario TT85 BECAUSE it looks cool and squarish luggage and cruise control. Don't care for camping, I enjoy indoor plumbing and wifi. And odds are I will hardly see another Guzzista so it makes me more unique. I could go on about the many things I like

Hey, where are those beautiful rock formations ? Sort of looks like parts of Utah. Australia? We’re going! Excellent drone photography. Thanks

@chroniclesofsolid

6 ай бұрын

Western Australia👍

The manufacturer may market these machines as motorcross bikes but they know how their customers will use them. The 2024 Africa Twin has a base model and a more feature laden one. The more expensive option reduces the front wheel from 21 to 19 inches and reduces the suspension travel and ground clearance. The base machine is for off roaders and the more expensive one is for sport touring. I guess what they're saying is that if you're not interested in off road, you need to pay more.

Love it COS. You are certainly adding value and helping people make good decisions. Sadly with 30 inch inseams my choices are limited :>(

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! unlucky on the inseam😅

@jasoncee666

Жыл бұрын

The Transalp is suitable for shorter people, have a sit on one you might be surprised. Ohhh and they have a low centre of gravity, nothing like the tip me over top heavy T7's 😎

@BikesDrones

Жыл бұрын

@@jasoncee666 Cheers mate.

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449

Жыл бұрын

I gone down to only 2 bikes now ( well 2 registered bikes now 😂😂😂) 1. Gone down to a Honda CRF 300 Rally - for my snotty off road riding and weekend off road stuff . 2. My Moto Guzzi V85tt “ fantastic LONG DISTANCE ADV bike , 24 litre tank , shaft drive - no chain maintenance, comfortable, cruise control and simple air cooled V- Twin engine, great 👍 handling on road and a good soft off roader .

@BikesDrones

Жыл бұрын

@@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 Sounds like great complimentary bikes.

Got to disagree I had a Africa twin and put 17000 torturous miles on it. The triangle is good but the sitting totally upright puts a lot of pressure on the butt. I even bought a touratech $700+ seat was better but still was unbearable to the point i Avoided riding it. Ended up trading it on a Goldwing absolutely a game changer could ride all day without any issues. Side note a deer attacked me back in May and totaled the wing and busted me up still recovering. I have been wondering if a bike like the GS is really a better bike. The only thing is I loved both Hondas with the DCT.

solid.

Should you buy an r1250gs, you will happily modify your riding, and adventures, to fit the bike. They are comfortable, balanced, and in a pinch easily handle reasonable trail work for even this 67 year old. However, I have been riding continuously since I was 15 years old, and always err on the side of safety.

Anyone tried both a big >1L ADV bike and a Tenere 700 for riding 2 up with panniers? I don't know if I'd ever need or want something bigger than a T7, but then the biggest bike I've ever been on is a CR500, and that's lighter than my WR250R I'm adventurizing. The WRR seems to have the same sort of triangle as a bigger bike. But it vibrates and I have to countersteer into wind. It's perfect for mostly dirt riding though.

I've been driving a 1200 multistrada for 4 years. I love the bike, and would not change it except perhaps for a newer one. My on-road skills are quite good. I'm no Marquez, but compared with the average Joe I'm pretty good and I've certainly done more training. The multistrada on a wide variety of roads is nothing less than excellent. I've done 800km in a day several times, and the bike does it with such ease regardless of the type of road that it is simply a pleasure. But. My off-road skills are nothing beyond average. On a 400 scrambler I would be ok, and I've done some fairly challenging stretches on scramblers. The multistrada, however, is too heavy and I am too scared of dropping it. I've done some dirt road on the multistrada, but it really isn't my thing. Every second on tricky dirt roads I'm worrying about dropping my bike. I avoid dirt roads as far as I possibly can. Sure, the bike might be capable of doing roads with ruts or corrugation or sand, but I am not confident on those roads, and lack of confidence means no enjoyment. So I stick to tar as far as I can, and I enjoy my multistrada more than any other bike I have ever owned. If I ever want to start doing dirt again, I will buy a 400 scrambler. No way I will sell my multistrada though.

Comfort is the main reason I purchased my Vstrom 1050de. I want to be able to ride long distances and not be exhausted.

I chose a new 2014 Vstrom 1000 over a GS because its 80lbs lighter. When you do wind up off road, that matters! It has fantastic brakes and requires almost zero dealer maintenance. I can affors whatever I want, the boxer engine IMHO is an outdated design.

I love KTM promotional videos with Chris Birch doing gnarly stuff on big ADV bikes. If he can so that stuff then surely we can all do it too, right?

@lequan8766

Жыл бұрын

Yes if you train for years 😂

@kab5145

7 ай бұрын

Well yeah I saw a video of Chris Birch dropping his bike. Guess what I can drop my bike too! So technically I'm just like Chris Birch ah ah ah

I've been sold on ADVs for 20 years. As an old rider, nothing will keep me on a bike longer than comfort. In '07 I did an 1800 mile ride on a borrowed Harley with 7 other cruisers. They had to stop every hour and walk around to stop their tail bones killing them. No such problem on my V-Strom, Multistrada (a POS, avoid) and now 1290 SAS. I have no intention of serious off roading.

ADV would be nice if they can keep the wet weight between 140-160kg...hehe

visibility! I can see over traffic and traffic is more likely to see me.

Big adventure bikes are for professionals that have tens of thousands of hours of training and seat time. That's who you see off roading dunes and climbing cliff sides at high speed on the GS1200.

👌👍

90% of big adventure bikes never leave the "Blacktop", it's all about the "look at me & my bike", it's the 2 wheeled equivalent of the Range Rover for a school run, laughable at best. 🤣🤣

@FreedomBaba

Жыл бұрын

Starbucks here we come 🤣

Solid, I have a 1250 GS, I am thinking about the 300 L to have at the other end to play more in the dirt to improve my skills w the rhino GS. Thoughts?

@Dirtpoorhomesteader

Жыл бұрын

I have two bikes. A 1200gsa and a 300 rally. Ride the 300 off-road and learn offroad technique and your confidence on the rhino will improve leaps and bounds. You will feel like the gs shed 100 pounds. Iv bee riding for 17 years and o have never been more satisfied with the bikes in my stable.

@FreedomBaba

Жыл бұрын

I only have a 300L. It takes me everywhere. It does need some after market parts to make it good.

The SUV's of the motorcycle world - they can do everything but are great at nothing. Expensive jewellery designed to look good while the owners sit sipping their latte's and vicariously dream of 'adventure'. Classic marketing BS. The name has nothing to do with what these things actually end up doing. They are the tragic but inevitable consequence of marketing for mass appeal, the end product becomes like yogurt a toilet paper. They have to be so safe, comfortable and divorced from what it going on any idiot with the money can do it. The true irony is with any challenge, test or adversity removed so is the ‘adventure’ they claim to be a key to.

Riding posture, comfort by soft long travel suspension

I live 3 miles off the pavement, so every time I ride my Harley bagger, or softail, or Dyna, I’m riding 6 miles of gravel roads. On gravel, I can’t say that the Harleys are any less stable than the 2 BMW GS’s I’ve owned. Up at the lake cabin in rural Wisconsin, I’ve taken the Dyna out on 50 mile gravel road adventures. So to say that an ADV bike is the only option for road and gravel is just wishful justification. And to say that a GS is the best option for long distance touring two-up, could only be said by someone who’s never toured on a Road Glide Ultra. I’ve done both, and riding a GS on a windy day is 5 times harder than a Road Glide. Its not even close.

Travelled RTW in 2011 rode KLR650 with soft panniers still believe that was big best all around bike would be 450-500 cc

Versitility, comfort, and distance.

I don't have a BIG adventure bike... I don't need one. What I have for my solo touring and moto camping is a 650 VStrom. It is well suited to the kind of back road / fast A road / occasional short motorway blast riding that I do. Mind, when I first got my full license a 650 WAS a big bike.

I tried the street legal dirt bike enduros, went back to a proper adventure bike...thanks but ill take the gs 1250 for adventure and just throw my dirtbike in the truck when i wanna ride a dirt bike

There is a 5th reason... the size and tallness of you on the bike, the height and size of the bike itself, and the noise it makes when you rev it up, are sufficient to shatter the cocoon of some of the narcissistic SUV Karens (male and female) that are otherwise oblivious to or rightout ignore the presence of smaller bikes in their immediate vicinity.

I could handle the run up and the launch on a big bike, it's the landing that would be the issue. Splat!

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

😆

Well I’m not sold on what you called amazing big adventure bikes, I got rid of mine or rather gave up the 1200 gsa I had. Reason one much too big, off road no way, two expensive to service, three after three bm’s I’m now on my Tiger xca 800 I can service it myself I find it more comfortable than my bm’s big distances no problem on the Tiger. I was hooked on long way round but I learnt the bm’s way was mostly hype. Small is good my son in law had just got the latest bm super dooper off roader I was shocked when he told me the price as it was around 20k with all the bells and whistles. Sorry big lumps not for me, but hey if it rings your bell like my wealthy son in law that is fine.

What if it falls on me? I will an army to lift it.

My beef is most manufacturers have an “off-road version and a on-road version “ so for the on road crowd, why do they need 8” of travel. Help the shorter inseamed people by dropping three inches

Insted of calling them ADVENTURE bikes i tend to call them EXPEDITION bikes. Tose are great bikes to do what i call an expedition - a trip where you go somewhere far, than do some offroad and onroad stuff there and go back. For example my holidays this year consists od more/less 6500km's in 2 weeks. first there was road to destination North Poland->Albania. 2000km's on highways and mostry paved roads that was done in 2/3 days. those are bikes on which you could do 1500km single day, and don't have a rest day next day. then there was 2500km's inside Albania, mostly onunpaved roads. Ther were not enduro tracks, i was not riding with wheel up on rocks. It was 2500km/s done slowly tractoring thru mud, rocks with some bit of asphalt. I was having great views, i visited some remote places, all with my luggage. I did it slowly but steady - mu bike was able to do it. Then there was a road back, again 2000km's thru nice highways. and i did all 3 parts in comfort having fun. ok, I did it on tiger 800, but it was road biased XR version, so i'm sure that 1200cc of a bigger ADV bike would do it exactly the same easily. I could do it on sport tourer as i already ridden simmilar roads on honda panEuropean1300, but i would need to limit middle part in albania as i could do it for a 300-400 km/s during whole trip, not 2500. Also I could do all road there and back on highway on some enduro bike, but then i woud need to think about service inbetween or exactlu after trip, and after 2000km's there i wouldn't be so "fresh" to enjoy first day of visiting countries. I think that problem is in advertising bid ADV's as an "offroad fun bikes for your weekend rides". For weekend rides i would like to do more hardcore things, and even middle adv's are quite too havy for this, not talking big ones. those are bikes you pick with holidays in mind, not for weekend stuff.

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

Nice idea 💡

Hey! Everything fine?

@chroniclesofsolid

Жыл бұрын

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If you go by the true definition of the word 'adventure: (and by the videos you were showing) (noun. an unusual and exciting or daring experience. verb. engage in daring or risky activity.) Then you would have to assume that KTM is closest to the true meaning of adventure.

Big Adventure Bikes. Why not to buy one. 1. Purchase price. The big bikes out there are plus £30, 000, or in any dollar of your choice, (or Euros) before you even add luggage et cetera. So you need deep pockets. 2. Spares, repairs and servicing. All of the aforementioned are expensive with these big bikes. (see above). But also parts availability Worldwide. And specialist tools or electronic diagnostics systems are often required. It's not a good situation. 3. Weight. These big adventure bikes weigh at least three times your own body-weight (for a normal sized person). In the inevitability that you will drop the bike on your off-road exploits, I don't really need to finish this sentence... 4. Tyres. These bikes are supplied with road-biased tyres because, as you rightly say, the vast majority of these adventure bikes will be used for touring on the main roads, motorways, autobahns, autoroutes, autostradas, highways and freeways, just not much actually off-road. So if one is planning to take a big adventure bike for a big adventure, for anything other than metalled roads, you need to spend even more money on better tyres. I'm reminded that Ted Simon took a 500cc Triumph around the World over four years in the 1970's. No SatNav, no mobile phones, no Internet, no back-up vehicle, no 'riding modes' and virtually no money. On road and off-road, just relying on his wits. That is what I would call Adventure Motorcycling! Love and peace.

Whose "they"? Everybody knows Adventure bikes are for touring but able to do a bit of gravel track as when necessary.

My 1290 Super Adventure R can do pretty much anything.

@starlordstarlordman8489

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That follows with what I’ve seen. I think the real question isn’t usually about what the bike can do, even though that’s how we think about it it’s about what the rider can do. I think most riders fall into the category described in this video for these bikes.

Need be 6 fèet tall plus

@xpusostomos

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Erm... My actual dirt bikes Has a far higher seat than a big adventure

Playing devil's advocate I see. These kind of sales go in cycles. It will never stop as long as people want a unicorn instead of buying more than one bike.

So parking in front of Starbucks isn't a legitimate reason to buy one?

My legs are so short that my 790R is a big adventure bike. Ha Ha

@chroniclesofsolid

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The biggest drawback of big adv Bikes is everybody fucking tells you how shit they are and how much more capable the middleweights are.