My dad had a payloader when I was a teen back in the 70's that had a 4 in 1 bucket and tracks. He worked magic with that machine. Wish he had kept it to pass it on to me. What a tool.

My work just replaced our Yanmar with a Kabota L3200 with 4 in 1. I love sculpting our man-made beach with this little orange beauty. Come by Southbank and visit next time in Brisbane Australia.

Serious tractor envy, Thanks for bringing out the M62

This specific implement looks to be much better suited for a skid steer. I love the Messicks demonstration videos. I always watch them to learn something new whether or not I will ever own such a machine.

@Wingnut353

Жыл бұрын

It's a must have on a medium to large backhoe... a bit better on a bit larger backhoe. Where he talks about limitations of grappling... my grandpaw's 555e has carried off 10in trees in the grapple... pretty much at max load of the tractor.

I have one on my tractor and use it all the time. It's like trying to replace your big tool box with a leatherman tool. The specialty tools are better, but sometimes you just need to do something quickly. Sure a grapple is better, but I may be on the other side of the property and just need to move a few things instead of going to the barn to get my skid steer. Saves a lot of time. Thanks for the demonstration.

Either that is a very big bucket or Neil is shrinking💯🇺🇲👍👍

@nervousordo

3 жыл бұрын

First on your first!

As a newbie to tractors, I really appreciate your informative videos. If I lived near there, I would definitely be a customer. All our local dealers treat you like you should already know this stuff. Roll their eyes and sigh when you ask a question.

You forgot one of the most useful features and that is to pick up the last of a dirt pile by clam shelling it. How many times have we been moving a large pile and by the time we get to the end we have to grab a regular hand shovel and scoop it into the bucket because all we’re doing is chasing the pile

@jbcowherder6210

3 жыл бұрын

agreed. also the ability to use it as a "land plane" by backdragging with the clam shell fully open using the inside edge of the clamshell and putting the loader control in the float position.

@jea069er

3 жыл бұрын

Very true!

@nervousordo

3 жыл бұрын

Never happened to me.

@jamesj590

2 жыл бұрын

You just gave me a lightbulb moment, thanks. Got a little machine 2 days ago and was doing exactly what you describe with the shovel.

@Daresoberme

6 ай бұрын

Maybe find someone who is really good at running one. Food for thought

Well done Mr Neil. Best Messicks video by far about attachments. I think you missed one other function of that bucket. You don’t actually have to normally dump it, say dump dirt into a trailer, just open the jaws, which I think would help with lift height issues.

Wouldn’t be without it. Working around the farm and woods it’s a great tool...especially when working by myself. It is as you said...does many things moderately well, but the versatility for me is invaluable. Thanks for another great video!

I own this exact tractor and 4/1 bucket AND thumb on its backhoe. This tractor would absolutely be the best selling tractor ever if people only knew what it was capable of. The satisfaction I get by accomplishing the variety of tasks on my property are indescribable. Neil, you really need to visit somebody who owns one of these and educate potential customers as to there capabilities. Incredible “Swiss Army Knife”of all farm tractors.

@jc-botaman1077

3 жыл бұрын

If it only was available in a cab model

Neil, i bought my M62 locally after watching your videos. took advice from my brother in law (JD110) on the 4 in one bucket. Not an inexpensive upgrade but i use it so much i would consider it a must have! Thank you for all the information and advice.

The reason i got my 2601 is the 4in1 option. Its more versital than most can imagine and more handy than an extra pocket. Its a learning curve that worth the cost and time, imo.

This is actually a good tool for those who don't have a constant need for any of the actual attachments it covers. At times I could use a grapple, but for the most part would sit collecting dust. I sometimes find a need to use a box blade, but it takes up room and finds it's way behind other, more used, equipment and needs to be pulled out, same with the grader blade. In fact, I am considering selling all the above since I haven't used them in years. I think the most useful part of it is how you can dump and spread materials, especially when the bucket can't curl down without hitting a truck bed. I wouldn't replace a standard HD bucket with it, but would have it as an addition. Should also have mentioned that it requires a 3rd function setup if the tractor doesn't have one.

@bradleygt1070

2 жыл бұрын

I’m actually getting into the skid steer business where I live, would you recommend this over a regular bucket if I had to choose between the two

when digging forward tilt the angle of the bucket not raise/lower the whole bucket - much better control. Also when grappling you come over the top and pull back and curl the back down. You get better as you use it. I love not swapping it. It is standard on the Kubotas here :)

This makes me wish I'd considered such a rig for my B2601! I guess I'd still have gotten the box blade, but maybe not the grapple too. For those with a little of this and that to do, 4 in 1 makes sense. Also for those of us with limited storage space.

Neil I’ve have had a 4 in one bucket for on my skid loader for 19 years. You can do so many things with it clam the bucket full. Extended reach across a trench and back fill .open slightly and grade . Pick up rocks. Shear off small trees. With a skid steer you do what is necessary to stop the bucking. Caused by a short wheelbase.keep in mind they are heavy.

Also handy for 1: grabbing & lifting out old standing fence posts and 2: to hold a log in the air while you chainsaw sections off it. As others have said they’re very popular here in Aus. The ones we get as standard here don’t seem to be made from such heavy material. Very versatile and with practice become like a very powerful set of mechanical hands. They go well with a box scraper or grader scraper on the back. Not much you can’t do. Beware though working with a 4 in 1 with the jaws open means quite a lot of pressure on the hinges and hydraulics.

4in1s can pick up a large amount of brushy stuff with good technique. Open the bucket and reach over your brush, lower the loader close to the ground and back up. Think of it like rolling a carpet up and clamping down on it when done. A youtube search of international drott will bring up two old videos of 4in1 bucket uses albeit on an international track loader but quite informative. Thanks Neil, your videos are why i bought my L3901 over the competion.

@steveholton4130

3 жыл бұрын

I remember in the sixties when DROTT first introduced the 4 in 1 and it was very popular on JD and IH tracked and wheeled loaders. I am strongly thinking of putting one on my NH TC33DA as both my cheap china grapple and my original NH bucket are shot after 15 years. SDH the Great Unknown in CT

Well done you yanks, finally catching up to the rest of the world be it 50 years late. Been using these is 🇦🇺 for years and years......

@Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc

3 жыл бұрын

Look at jcb 6 in 1 clamshell loader bucket since the 80s 4 in 1 before that or as we call it a 5in one open the bucket for high reach truck loading bucket open with a full scoop don't need to dip ur bucket and catch the side of the truck

@cwavt8849

3 жыл бұрын

Well, it did take us awhile to catch our breath from helping secure a victory for the allies in the last great war. Not so confident about the next one though

From Australia - I have a 4 in 1 on my BX23s because the skid steer and grapple was not an option here. I use it constantly to pick up small to medium logs and push dirt and brush around, I absolutely would be lost without it however it is heavier and not as deep as standard bucket and so lift and capacity is reduced. Thanks for the video, there are very few on 4 in 1 and I'm yet to see one on the front of BX23s.

They come standard on almost all the smaller brands and as an option for all the larger brands in Australia for smaller tractors my tym 265 came with it as standard. we'll worth the extra investment if it didn't come standard having the ability to use 1 implement saves so much time and space I still want a grapple in the future but having the ability to wait and buy that when I can afford it while still getting the work I need done is great

I use mine for scraping off top soil, open only 1"-2" the use the bucket as a depth gauge to keep the blade from diving down. The dirt will collect in the bucket.

@paybax

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the best thing to strip sod, especially if you have a heavier tractor.

I had a Kubota 4 in 1 put on my Grand L4060 when it was new. A little heavy, and takes practice but when really working dirt it shows it worth or that rock in the yard you need to pick up the size of a wheel barrel. or tree limbs that fell from the storm

Cool tool, if I didn't already have a grapple, might consider it. Nice to know it's out there though.

you can also pick up big rocks with grapple 4 in 1, where the rock will roll if you try to scoop it up at the frount of the bucket.

Great explanation and demonstration Neil! I need to trade my B3200 in for that M62 :)

I’ve got an L4760, that looks like it would be a good tool for my 25 acres. Lots of old wood laying around that I would rather not have to mess with, and I’m not sure I would use a grapple fully after finish with that project, plus I have lots of rocks I need to pick as well.

Certainly very interesting. Thank you for this review.🤔

Nice I have used one on the farms JCB 3cx For grabbing logs and brush Thanks

Love the smaller once on my B26, it’s holds a lot of material too. It’s shaped more like a standard bucket. It’s the Kubota one 👍

@mcpiddler1135

3 жыл бұрын

I also have one on my B26. Use the grapple more around my sawmill, of course, but the 4 in 1 is handy as well. You can grab a privet hedge bush and pull it out of the ground fairly easily.

Jack of all trades, master of none.

Skidsteers are the best for so many attachments like the 4in1 bucket.

“a jack of all trades is a master of none, but.... oftentimes better than a master of one.”

They work great for cleaning ditches to

I gotta get me one of these for my driveway work. Great video Neil.

@BiffsEquipment

3 жыл бұрын

Does Land Pride still offer theirs for the Kubota BX? I asked my dealer about one a few years ago but they said getting ahold of one was rare.

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

Land Pride just came with one this year. I've not gotten mine yet.

@BiffsEquipment

3 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip they did? I must be thinking of another company who was making them then. I know guys out in Australia were able to buy 4-1 buckets from their Kubota dealers but at the time they were still very difficult to get here in the states

@kdegraa

3 жыл бұрын

@@BiffsEquipment 4 in 1 buckets have almost become standard equipment on Australian smaller tractors with a loader. I think this might have happened because cheap Chinese tractors started to be sold in Australia with 4 in 1 buckets. These tractors are around half the price of name brand tractors. So the established brands had to start competing. So many Australian tractor buyers have become more aware of the benefits of 4 in 1 buckets out the front.

@rickyhorsburgh6581

3 жыл бұрын

@@kdegraa i love my 4 in 1 came as standard equipment on my tym 265 in Australia most the tractors I looked at had the 4 in 1standard or as a option they advised most people to get but we also have self leveling loaders as standard on almost all tractors so very different from the us

My next purchase... It will work good enough for the projects in hand. Rather spend $2500 on one tool then several

I wish they had a branch in Florida

4 in 1 buckets are a great tool for a tractor, just make sure that you run off a true 3rd function and not a diverter valve so you can do all the functions you need at once.

Cool bucket, LETSDIG18, has one on his track skid steer.. HAVE A GREAT DAY!

@steveholton4130

3 жыл бұрын

Great source reference. Anyone who wants to see a 4in1 really utilized to its ultimate Should Check out LETSDIG 18 here on YT . Chris is a master. SDH the Great Unknown in CT

I have an L3901 with a backhoe. The weight "disadvantage" I think gives me more stability when moving with the bucket low.

Ahhh to have a few scoops full of mulch from that 🤤

The Swiss Army knife of buckets.

great vid

To clean rocks from a field, food plot, garden, just open it a little shake the bucket and dirt will fall out rock will stay in.

When moving firewood after drying, I open the jaws just enough (too much and it falls through) so I can put in another tier of wood just about doubling my capacity.

0:14 “A jack of all trades is a MASTER of none, but oftentimes better than a MASTER of one.” --Bill S.

I thought I wanted one for spreading stone but I am getting better dumping from the bucket.

Wow! I had no idea any such implement even existed! It has to be a blast to sit around and use this stuff and test it out! Hmm..... You guys hiring? 😜

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

You could make a great salesman. 👍

@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849

3 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip You supply the coffee, and I'm there!

Love mine.

Great for loading trucks too

My 40hp Kioti has a Long (brand name) 4 in 1 bucket that when fully open creates a true box with the front and rear sections perpendicular to the ground. The bucket in this video as shown at 5:20 isn't open wide enough to create a box for gathering and distributing material. Is that the maximum opening for this bucket? If so, I don't see how it qualifies as the 'box blade' function.

if they could make the clamshell a sort of quick change so that it could be switched out to different specialized tools such as a grapple then you'd have something.

I love a 4n1 it is the best all around bucket. You can get a light weight version for compacts roughly 350 pounds. I like Neil but he is not to great on using the 4 in 1 . It will do a lot with a experienced operator

Appreciate the demonstration Neil. However, I would never consider this for my 3301L as it is too heavy and really cannot accomplish anything that I can't do with my box blade, front loader and forks. By the way, I cannot get over how much you appear to be a doppel ganger for the famous actor Jon Cryer. I'm sure you have heard this before. Keep up the great videos. Cheers

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

I've not, but in the photo's where he has hair absolutely.

Need to come up with a small one for the BX!

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

Land pride came out with one this year

Gday mate in oz most tractor buckets are 4in 1 standard dont see many single use buckets .

Are there any good 4 in 1’s for the B2650 HSDC?

Bout time jcb have been using them for decades and invented the 6 in 1 clamshell loader bucket in the 80s

Niel u forgot to say u can open the bucket for high reach truck loading bucket get a scoop of dirt raise up ove side of the truck open bucket material dumps out and repeat that's if u cant curl the bucket to dump and back out while bucket is still dipped jcb guy in UK load like that all the time in the UK 👍so should be a 5 in 1

That bucket was definitely designed for a skid loader...there are others with a more traditional bucket shape and are a bit lighter.

Very nice bucket, do they make em size appropriate? My little J.D. 3025 would be way under h.p. for a bucket that size.

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of sizes, yes. Even subcompacts.

@kdegraa

3 жыл бұрын

Many sub compact tractors sold in Australia come with a 4 in 1 loader. Tractors like the Massey GC, Kubota BX & JD 1 either come with or can be fitted with a 4 in 1 loader. They are sized for the smaller tractors.

@bradcoddington1679

3 жыл бұрын

Frontier probably makes a size for your tractor. I have a 3720 deere with a 72 inch frontier 4in1 and I love it yea it's not as good as a grapple but it will do a decent job of picking up brush, rocks and whatever else you might need to pickup. They are also great for moving snow and piling it up.

Thank you for the content. One suggestion, Talk to Mike Morgan, lend him that machine with the 4 in 1 bucket for couple of days, then invite him to make a video about how to use it.

6:09 Here for the jostling

Two questions for Neil - 1. As you know, I bought new an '05 Tc33DA with a 14LA loader. With that, my dealer (no longer in business) matched a Land Pride 3 point, 72 inch, Rotary Mower. I have been told by several people that the 72 inch mower was To Big for the 33 HP tractor. What do you think? 2. I am thinking of replacing the original 15 year old bucket which I think is a 60 incher with a 4 in 1 (even before this video). Does anyone make 4 in 1s less that 72 inch? Can 33 HP driving a LA14 handle a 4 in 1? Would it be essential , wise, or foolish to replace the 15 year old original Hydraulic Pump? Is there an option to upgrade the original pump with a unit with greater GPM? SDH the Great Unknown in CT

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

I'd not mess with the hydraulic pump unless its broken. Not trivial work. A light duty 72" should be fine, a heavy one will need some front ballast on the tractor. Its all in how you have your machine setup. There are several vendors of 4-N-1's. Land Pride makes some good ones for smaller tractors.

The only bucket to have

Anybody put a cross over brace on loader arm uprights?

Anyone have a 4in1 bucket for a stand on track loader?? Thoughts?

All others called this a 6 in 1 bucket

5:05 Pushing dirt in 2WD!

Love the 4 in 1 bucket. Every body talks about grapples. I think 4 in 1 is more versatile.

Neil what kind of camera do you use for these video? I've seen a few videos recently that Kubota Orange looks red, esp in cloudy situations. I wonder if orange is a hard color to capture. Thanks for all the videos, keep up the great work.

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

Panasonic GH5. I notice that some when i watch it on my home TV, but not on my PC at work. Maybe the orange gets over saturated on some sets.

@silverbackag9790

3 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip it’s going to depend on what color profile the camera is set on....assuming that you are “baking in” a color profile (natural, vivid, standard, etc) and not shooting on something like Vlog.

What # top is this? Thx

1:12 *snicker*

Not sure I would buy that over a box blade

Can we start a Go Fund Me to get new shingles for that roof?

Unga bunga

This is avaible for m5-111?

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@pr4lviper

3 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip could you make videos about that implement and others for the kubota m5-111??

Where's the new LE?

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

here kzread.info/dash/bejne/dH-BmLx6etTWo5c.html

@tomkeating65

3 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip same thing Kubota Instagram's channel showing?

Not a fan of that tractor. The hsd transmission and autothrottle combo are not ideal. I would rather have a standard/syncro/ hyd shuttle etc that you can gear a bit higher, and have less rpm

@MessicksEquip

3 жыл бұрын

The two options where offered side-by-side in the L45\L47 for awhile and no one opted for the gear driven style.

@jessehiebert3419

3 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip We farmers who know what makes a good tractor can't always afford a new one

Should be called a 4-n-1/4 because it doesn't do anything remotely well. The type of setup that I might buy at auction for a grand but wouldn't pay $4k.

Trying to be a lot and ends up being nothing.