Just found your channel I'm also here in WV. Just purchased an older Hudson Oscar 28 and loving it. Something satisfying about seeing what's inside a log.

@willbillys8876

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the mill!

That is nice looking wood. Thank you for sharing

@willbillys8876

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gene! Have a happy Thanksgiving!

Nothing like breaking your back while your help is standing and watching with hands in pockets. Gotta love it

@rogercarrico4975

4 жыл бұрын

Yes in deed! Ready to teach you how much smarter they are than you. By showing you how they would do it!

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Haha my brother has trouble putting that phone down sometimes.

@oakleydavid7619

4 жыл бұрын

@@willbillys8876 we have a couple of guys that work with us that like to watch each other watch each other

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Screen addiction at its worst right there!

@TikTokBackedUp

4 жыл бұрын

I was there only for moral support!!

That sure was was pretty lumber. Thanks for sharing. The Woodland HM-130 is a good mill. I got one 2 years ago.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

I've been happy with it!

@bablupandit6803

4 жыл бұрын

Gu gu k ul ko llllll plllljkk

very nice work thank you for this video

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you we appreciate the feedback!

You got your log stops backward. Luca. Did the same thing myself.

I love the HM130 Good job!

@thefuntime5261

4 жыл бұрын

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Thank you for the video! I just bought a saw mill myself. Hello from Odessa Ontario Canada.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Better enjoy the mill! You’re gonna love it.

@laxamgimeena196

4 жыл бұрын

Vijay Kumar tiwari

@user-yf4cm8oq1z

4 жыл бұрын

@@willbillys8876 ฟอนิเจ้อ

Very nice & cool!

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Beautiful lumber, just a tip though; Flip your log stops around so the angle faces the log, easier to spin the log. That is the reason they are cut at 45deg. Cheers

@raycarlosjr.7588

4 жыл бұрын

If you spin the log stops so the 45 is facing the log it doesn't tear out the corner as much

Great videos, I have found if you mill from the butt end first you are more likely to not run out of clearance at the end of a cut.

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@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

always trim the butt end and get rid of the felling face. there is usually a lot of dirt in the whiskers. and it will get the length closer.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Solid advice, thank you!

I know this is several years old and you call this hickory,. I think you will find that you milled a Gum or black jack oak,. However you are correct in that it is an extremely hard wood. sweet gum has a sweet smell when green and goes to a stinch/stink as it cures. Look closer at the bark of Hickory it's scaly and feathers off from trunk or flaky, and that hickory bark will eat a chainsaw or bandsaw blade right now. gum and or black jack also make beautiful lumber. ease up on that saw and let it eat, that hurry will cost you later. I have the 130max.

@willbillys8876

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for that information! You are likely correct. And I’ve been easier on the mill since this video. This was actually one of the first logs I milled. Enjoy the HM130max!

Beautiful hickory. Love that mill, I’m looking to purchase one next season . But I’m looking to do custom milling for farmers or homeowners. Not sure how much demand thr is for that . I love the outdoor work and feel it would compliment my lawn and landscape business . Do u do any custom work and do have much call or demand for it . I just subscribed !! Great content

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I think once you have a mill, word travels fast. I am still in the process of getting my shop finished up, but I have still managed to sell at least one item a month for the last year I've had it running. Last weekend I sold two fireplace mantels. I am hoping to construct a dehumidification kiln this Spring/Summer, and then I'll really be able to move lumber. If you're primarily looking to mill for farmers, selling wood green isn't uncommon- especially hard woods. You can air-dry lumber in our area (just west of Washington DC) down to about 14% MC, but lumber for home use should be kiln dried down to around 6-8% moisture content. There's likely a kiln you could pay nearby. If you are into landscaping, you will likely have access to logs. I mill casually and only go through a couple logs a month usually. Hoping to increase that rate, though! Thanks for following, I'll keep a lookout on your channel in case you pick one up. -Will

@amjadskamjad8955

4 жыл бұрын

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4 жыл бұрын

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I could turn that lumber into some nice furniture. Looks great

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

If you're ever in our neck of the woods I'd be happy to donate some to you.

@brandon2239

4 жыл бұрын

That's a nice looking setup also. Just subscribed

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@juanfeliciano161

4 жыл бұрын

@@brandon2239 m.m.

purdy stuff. I see the 14 hp upgrade is needed for that big hickory.

@willbillys8876

2 жыл бұрын

14hp does the job but there’s always times when I could use a bigger motor, but then I’d want a bigger tractor, trailer, truck, and Etc.

What log tongs are you using? Nice video!

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

These are the Roughneck Lifting Tongs with 25in. Jaw. They’ve been good! Had to replace a bolt on one of them but that was easy.

Good

Good video...have 2 tips for you that may help...when you cut off that log ...I would of cut 8 to 10 inches off the big end...that would of give you less taper and a square end and if you turn your back rests 1/2 turn so the 45 degree angle helps you turn the logs and not dig into the log. Good video though ....stay safe.

@willbillys8876

3 жыл бұрын

Kelly Jones I appreciate that advice! And thanks for watching and commenting! Take care- Will

Been looking but can't see model or hp for tractor . Bought HM30 and about to start assembly , had Logosol before. Wondered if our MF 135 plus front loader forks would handle that hickory. Thanks from Wales.

@willbillys8876

Жыл бұрын

You’ll love the mill! This tractor is a Mahindra 1526hst. 26hp and loader is rated for 1600 pounds I believe. I’ve lifted more than that regularly, though.

Great job. Where in WV are you located?

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Allen Duff thank you Allen! We’re in Jefferson County, about 15 minutes from Harpers Ferry. I went to school in Huntington and have traveled all over this beautiful state.

wow

What did you do with the boards? Thanks

@willbillys8876

2 жыл бұрын

I used them for siding for the shelter I built around the mill. The lumber has held up great. It’s been up for about 2 years

If you dont mind my asking how much does this small mill cost you. Just the mill I do realize you have all kinds of other cost as well. And I did notice this mill cuts pretty quickly with out taking all day to make a cut. So what does the mill cost and how often do you have to replace the bands and at what cost ?

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for asking Oakley. I spend just over $4000 on the mill and another $300 on a pack of ten blades and a cant hook for turning the logs. In this video the blade was relatively dull, especially for milling hickory. I typically get about 3 hours of milling time out of a blade and haven't had any of the 8 I've been through sharpened yet. Definitely worth the lumber for a $20 blade. I spent roughly $600 on the trailer setup that it's mounted to, but removed the axles. I can place the mill onto another trailer if I needed to relocate it. It's a joy to operate and the manufacturer has been very helpful with a few issues I've had.

@oakleydavid7619

4 жыл бұрын

@@willbillys8876 I'm thinking about purchasing one my self. We clear land for a living and I have access to all the timber I would ever need. Thanks for letting me know

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. I think you'd be thrilled with a mill given your access to so much timber.

I found hickory to be the hardest wood that I could find in central Ohio...

@willbillys8876

3 жыл бұрын

John Swartz definitely the hardest I’ve dealt with here in WV

Please make a video of how to make this wonderful machine

Hi Will, I bought the same mill last year. Mine only has one axle. Did yours come with a double axel or did you build that yourself? Nico.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Nico! I built my own trailer for the mill. It was originally a horse trailer. I have removed the axles to make accessing the mill easier and to also lower it to a more comfortable height. I like that the trailer frame keeps the mill perfectly level as opposed to it being flat on the ground where movement occurs due to freezing/thawing.

@gems206

4 жыл бұрын

@@willbillys8876 thanx Will. keep up the good work. greetings from Belgium. N.

Not sure why you cut the excess length off of the good end of the log instead of the stump end. Anyway, beautiful Hickory boards in the end. : )

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

It was a mistake I have learned from, like always LOL. Thanks!

@thefuntime5261

4 жыл бұрын

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Hickory has hardness of 8100N on the Janka scale. While that’s considered high in the US, it’s middle hardness internationally. There’s a lot of species around the 12,000N level, going as high as 20,000+ in some parts. Norwood mills really struggle to cut anything over 12,000 as you lose too much longevity

Mast

Really nice set up... But you gotta sharpen that chain on that saw....😎

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks John! And yeah, we have 6 or 7 blades hanging behind the headrest of our commuter car ready to be sharpened. Thinking about getting an electric blade sharpener.

Can you tell me in your opinion if the mill is underpowered?

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

woodgrinder guy thanks for watching and for the question! Honestly I’m certain scenarios I feel it is underpowered, but in the last year that I’ve been using it I don’t often feel that way. In a scenario where my blade is getting dull and I’m milling a super hard wood such as this hickory, yes I feel it’s struggling but then again I’m not surprised. With a new blade it handles the same log much better, and the motor isn’t bogging nearly as hard as a lawnmower when it hits a big clump of grass. I can pull and rebuild this motor on a bench after work one day and it’ll be good for another 5+ years. What surprises me is how much the motor gets the saw head shaking left and right as it works through a hard log with a less-than-sharp blade. the head is ~600 pounds I believe and I’d be more worried about a bigger motor throwing it off the tracks. Also, I’m a little upset/surprised the new “HM130 Max” allows for a full 30” slab cut at the throat and they still have this same 14hp Kohler mounted. My older HM130 has a max throat of 21.5” I believe. Trust me I wish I could mill a 30” slab but I would absolutely want a larger motor. Shit I’d almost prefer to go electric since I’m not hauling this mill around anymore.

@woodgrinderguy1060

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the answer ....the reason i ask is i want to buy a mill and the 130 max is up there on my list ....but the other ones im considering all have a vtwin.....so i wanna buy once and not have regrets.....looking at Norwood and Vallee sawmills

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

No problem. I think you’d be happy with either brand. I discovered Hud-son mills also. I believe they offer a 16hp twin powered mill that will cut a 31” slab. Best of luck! Following y’all!

Pushing to hard on that mill buddy

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I should have put a new blade on beforehand. Next ones went much easier.

If you had to trim the log why did you trim that end and not the falled end ?

@willbillys8876

2 жыл бұрын

I trimmed that end because it wasn’t as thick as the fallen end and I was aiming for the widest boards possible

THANKS, WHAT PRICE ? WHAT COUNTRY MADE ?

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Akbor HOSSAIN Thabk you! I paid $4500 shipped to West Virginia from Canada and that includes a pack of 10 blades.

What are those board worth?

@willbillys8876

3 жыл бұрын

10-15 bucks each depending on the location, if air dried or kiln dried that would be higher but as a green wood the cost per foot is less

Is the blade dull or does the motor not have enough umph!!!

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

The blade was pretty dull honestly, but trust me that hickory is a hard wood. I just cut some 6x6 hickory posts last night with a new blade on my sliding miter saw and even that struggled. As for the motor, it does pretty well but I always say more power never hurts!

@andrewfotopoulos7766

4 жыл бұрын

Probably need to saw a little slower...will save the blade. Hickory is hard to saw even though a larger band saw at regular saw mills.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Fotopoulos I sawed another hickory a few weeks ago and went slower. That helped a ton. Thanks for the feedback!

Very nice! You got Instagram? Don't see no links. Got a Woodland Mills on my homestead Love my HM130.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Hey! Thank you. Yes our Instagram is also “willbillys” but we mostly post about our school bus conversions. Thanks for the comment and good to hear of another happy HM130 owner!

@HerEcolife

4 жыл бұрын

@@willbillys8876 I had totally already commented and watched this video 3 months ago lol I just love milling videos. You should get your socials up on your page. I'll go grab you.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Quebec Homestead I need to upload some more videos also. I’ve just been slammed! Took a big trip, got engaged, then got furloughed and have been hustling with random jobs. I appreciate any advice!

@HerEcolife

4 жыл бұрын

@@willbillys8876 ohh BIG Congrats!! We had to cancel our wedding this summer because of all this Covid buisness :(

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! My brother actually had a small wedding here at our place yesterday on the original date they planned. Instead of the 100 people they had invited months ago, there was about 12 people. It was still perfect in its own way, but one of our dogs ate the wedding cake haha.

How much the price of this machine ? I have to buy at an early.

@FixitAll

4 жыл бұрын

Woodland Mills HM130 - $4,300 woodlandmills.com/product/hm130/?msclkid=041e51745e3b1d10ac980fb0482f9fb9&USA%20-%20Google%20Shopping%202018&USA%20Core%20Products

Thanks for the video are ya'll coming back to KZread?

@willbillys8876

3 жыл бұрын

We really want to get back into video posting but have been significantly sidetracked by covid. I was laid off from my day job and have been building a treehouse to share on Airbnb for some extra income and I’ve also been milling a ton of small cedars for the treehouse rather than larger hardwoods I’d like to document. Hoping to be back in a position to post more videos by Spring. Thanks for the encouragement and for watching!

I know 2 years. Showed up on timeline so I like watching the different portable milling Machines. Why does everyone always stop after cut then takes the slab away. Then cut then remove. I seen one mill video the man squared the log up. Like you did. Checked his tiedowns made sure they were in the lowest position then cut the Square down to 4 inches. Remove the slabs. Flipped it then cut 3 4x4’s out of it.

@willbillys8876

2 жыл бұрын

If you’re suggesting I wait until I’m finished milling the log to remove the slabs/slices, I would say I wish that was possible with this mill. The weight of the wood will pinch the blade when pulling it back to the start of the log. I could raise the blade over the log and bring it back that way however that is more time consuming and it’s a lot of work to raise the blade up each time. If I could afford a more automated mill that raised the mill head by itself then I would do it that way

Had to stop the video and ask a silly question, since he had to shorten the log anyway, can someone please tell me why he didn't take some off both ends to get a smooth surface on both ends? I would think that jagged mess from cutting the tree down is not wanted or needed........just saying.......

@willbillys8876

3 жыл бұрын

oldschooldiy that’s a great idea! I guess I’ve only thought about the chain saw time and wear but the mill blade is a little more $$ and harder to sharpen

Kon se kantri kiya jata hai

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

How much this machine

Brajeshwar mahto

Une bien belle machine qui debite de trop jeune chêne il y a plus d aubier que de bois dur

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Google translate says -"A very nice machine that comes from too young oak there is more sapwood than hardwood" Thank you for the comment! Merci pour le commentaire

What is price please

Would be nice to have hydraulics to turn that log

Time for an extension?

@willbillys8876

3 жыл бұрын

Extension is on my wish list!

A Rooky bucked that log. It should be at least 3 inches over for lumber. The mill will dock you a foot if not. Pig nut hickory. Smoothbark.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

TED C I believe our mill can do a 10’6” log, so an extra 3” on both ends of a 10’ board would be helpful indeed. Sometimes we retrieve logs cut by the power companies or contractors that are unaware of the ideal length for a sawyer to make use of. It really sucks when we get a log that‘a just shy of a full 8 or 10 foot section. We make use of it in some way regardless. I like the name Pig Nut!

Sweetgum?

@likestocutwood

3 жыл бұрын

Sure looks like it to me. That bark is not Hickory.

Ye kitne ka aatah pries

Haw many please

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Insaf Thai we ended up with around 10 4/4 (one inch) thick planks.

RS kitna hi bhaiya ji

boy is that underpowered

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

It may appear that way, but I was working with a slightly dulled blade and hickory is harder than oak. A larger motor would be nice! The comparable Woodmizer model comes with a 19hp motor, and this one has a 14hp. However, this mill cost me $4300 shipped, and the Woodmizer is around $8000 shipped. $3700 more for 5 horsepower just didn't make sense to me. I can pick up a new Kohler Command 25hp for around $1500. Might as well get my use out of this motor first.

@zikrilheri6074

4 жыл бұрын

@@willbillys8876 katy

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Too me I think your pushing to fast.. Let the blade do the cutting.. you'll smoke the clutch on the motor

man! im buying a mill, lol

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

You won't regret it!

@geraldmoncrieffe3934

4 жыл бұрын

Mud hut

@geraldmoncrieffe3934

4 жыл бұрын

Me and Nature bamboo house

Hi

Your blade is jumping around a lot.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Bill D yeah it was more worn than preferred especially when running hickory. I’m changing to a different pitch blade when I order my next batch.

You should have cut that v off the bell of your log . That's unsesasery inches you don't need to cut when you're short on inches.

Sir nmar chahiy aapke

Here in Tennessee we call that black gum

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Greg Frazier I’ve heard that before, interesting how lumber can be known by different names in different regions.

But it makes nice lumber.

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Sure does. I appreciate the comments. Happy New Year to you!

Manoj

Price shir

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

This mill was $4300usd shipped

Not enough power it bogs down every pass

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Tarasenkoop more power would be nice. This is the largest mill I can afford right now. Maybe at some point in life I’ll be able to fund a diesel unit. A sharper blade would have helped some in this case. Hickory is just plain tough!

"Hickory is an extremely hard wood! The HM130 is cruising through foot-wide boards!" Then we are left to reason that all the jerking and stopping is "operator error"?

@willbillys8876

3 жыл бұрын

oldschooldiy it was cruising at first, but I quickly realized how hard hickory really was because it quickly dulled the blade. I should have started with a new one. A local mill has a 96” capacity setup and only uses a 27hp motor, so this 14hp should be enough for 22” capacity

That's black gum not hickory

Underpowered.

@66limelight

4 жыл бұрын

Hickory is very, very hard wood. I'm sure that mill goes through oak like butter. I built a new house and used hickory for my kitchen cabinets and just by drilling the holes for the hardware it's easy to see how much harder it is than oak. Most people want the hickory natural with a clear finish but I had mine stained a medium brown and just love how it turned out. It still shows the color variations that hickory has.

@richardcarter3406

4 жыл бұрын

Pushing a dull blade too fast

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, I should have swapped the blade beforehand.

Nicht empfehlenswert, nur allein der Späneauswurf ist der größte Schrott

@willbillys8876

4 жыл бұрын

Google translate says "Not recommended, only the chip ejection is the biggest scrap" Thank you for the information! Danke für die Information!

@karthismash1666

4 жыл бұрын

@@willbillys8876 ghhhp

@damienbrain8867

4 жыл бұрын

Why don't you cut more random sizes instead of just squaring the log and cutting 1 size and wasting timber whereas a swing blade setup with optimal slabbing attachment will maximize your log returns I done my research and ended up buying swing blade setup

You're pushing too hard don't run the s*** out of it let the blade do the work don't overwork it