4 LIES You Believe About Determinate Tomatoes: Everything You Know Is WRONG

This video disproves 4 LIES you believe about determinate tomatoes! The internet is full of myths surrounding growing determinate tomatoes that aren't true. This video will prove that everything you know is wrong about determinate tomato plants and why you should be growing more of them in your garden.
I've been growing tomatoes most of my life, but I only started growing determinate tomatoes 5 years ago. That's because I believed they were inferior to indeterminate tomatoes based on lies I read on the internet. The truth is they are SUPERIOR producers! Determinate tomatoes produce tomatoes more efficiently than indeterminate tomatoes, often ripen earlier, are usually less prone to tomato diseases and are much less maintenance! Determinate tomatoes should be the foundation of your annual tomato garden, and I'll prove it to you in this video.
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0:00 You've Been Lied To About Determinate Tomatoes!
1:14 Lie #1
2:48 4 Great Tasting Determinate Tomato Varieties
4:08 Lie #2
9:18 Lie #3
11:43 Lie #4
13:22 Square Foot Gardening Tomato Growing Tips
16:20 Adventures With Dale
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  • @TheMillennialGardener
    @TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын

    If you found this video helpful, please "Like" and share to help increase its reach! Thanks for watching 😀TIMESTAMPS for convenience: 0:00 You've Been Lied To About Determinate Tomatoes! 1:14 Lie #1 2:48 4 Great Tasting Determinate Tomato Varieties 4:08 Lie #2 9:18 Lie #3 11:43 Lie #4 13:22 Square Foot Gardening Tomato Growing Tips 16:20 Adventures With Dale

  • @tfcig2019

    @tfcig2019

    Жыл бұрын

    Curious where you got the huge Sun Shade/Cloth? Just built my own hoop house (sorta) which is an odd size.

  • @Giggiyygoo
    @Giggiyygoo5 ай бұрын

    Back before I got really into gardening I grew determinant tomatoes. Threw miracle gro on them once a week, did everything "wrong" according to the Internet, and they produced all season until frost. I swear, sometimes ignorance is better.

  • @amyk6028
    @amyk6028 Жыл бұрын

    AGREE 💯 my friend! I have grown Rutgers, Celebrity, Bush Early Girl and Ace 55 for the past 3 years and they ALWAYS outperform my indeterminates 👍🏼 And, my determinate tomato plants consistently produce for MONTHS. All I have to do is keep the fertilizer going and they will keep producing until disease takes them. I love the way you keep it REAL about the struggles with gardening. I live in Hot, Humid Georgia and frankly it’s a pain in the ass to grow tomatoes.

  • @andielliott7721

    @andielliott7721

    Жыл бұрын

    Had no idea....

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s about the same, here. Really hard to grow tomatoes past Memorial Day. Determinates have changed my life by making the impossible possible. I have no idea how they’ve developed such a negative reputation. They should be the FOUNDATION of our tomato garden, and the indeterminates should be considered the fun play things for kicks and excitement.

  • @amyk6028

    @amyk6028

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMillennialGardener So true! My Cherry and Determinate tomatoes are most of what I grow, then about 4 Indeterminates. And every year I cuss them and pull them out by mid-July. Growing in heat & humidity is a whole different ball game. It’s a constant battle

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amyk6028 I've found the same thing. The cherry and roma-type indeterminates will still grow. However, the determinate roma types are just as good. It's really only the cherry indeterminates that are worth the trouble. Honestly, if I were growing strictly for production, I wouldn't grow another indeterminate tomato, but I grow them out of love for the variety. Determinates are just so much more productive and lower maintenance!

  • @stevenharris6866

    @stevenharris6866

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMillennialGardener The Tommie Toe Indeterminate is one that I've grown here in North Central Florida for 4 years now. It's a vigorous and giving plant. Basically my only one still fruiting right now! I haven't grown determinates due to the "myths" so thanks and I'll start adding them as we have a second summer here starting real soon and rainy season will end in Sept plus weather beginning to get cooler as we head to winter. Thanls for the awesome content!

  • @jaynebirkholz1596
    @jaynebirkholz1596 Жыл бұрын

    Isn't it wonderful we all have choices? For anyone to say that determinant or indeterminate is the only way to go is just plain being uninformed. Great video to educate.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven’t met anyone that mastered how to grow determinate tomatoes and quit growing them! Once you get it, they’re tough to exclude.

  • @jaynebirkholz1596

    @jaynebirkholz1596

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMillennialGardener I think the fact that you grow both types and seemingly know the pros and cons of both lends A LOT of credibility to your video. I will be trying one of the favorite varieties you mentioned in my Wisconsin garden next year. Thanks again!

  • @Mrs.LadeyBug

    @Mrs.LadeyBug

    Жыл бұрын

    Very diplomatic. 😊

  • @Wendy420T
    @Wendy420T Жыл бұрын

    You didn't convince everyone, but you convinced me. I have a whole new tomato plan for next year.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad to hear it! I recommend growing both types of tomatoes. The determinate tomatoes make fantastic foundational workhorses for solid protection. They're the "food tomatoes." Indeterminate tomatoes, to me, are "fun tomatoes" and go well in salads since they have more 'interesting' varieties.

  • @ammorales1524
    @ammorales1524 Жыл бұрын

    I tried determinate one year. They were very prolific. You convinced me to raise determinates next year!

  • @SpiceyKy
    @SpiceyKy Жыл бұрын

    YOU are literally the reason I'm hooked on growing determinates. I succession plant them constantly.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s excellent. There are two types of people: those that love determinate tomatoes, and those that haven’t grown them yet 😂 After many years of wrestling vines, it is nice to have something easy to manage.

  • @jmaalona

    @jmaalona

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m going to try this strategy next time.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jmaalona you won't regret it! Just make sure you DO NOT prune them. The only foliage that can be removed from determinates are the lowest leaf nodes underneath the first sucker. Anything above that can't stay. Determinates thrive on neglect. Stake them up with Florida weave or a short, strong stake and they'll flourish.

  • @SpiceyKy

    @SpiceyKy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@area51z63 My indeterminates have been through h3ll this season. Thrips and extremely high UV Index levels. Only my determinates are thriving. And we eat them to fast to freeze any because we now live in an apartment. Can't grow too many at a time. 😔

  • @mimiashford5544

    @mimiashford5544

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMillennialGardener I never even knew there was a difference... I just plant tomatoes, either seed or plant. Nice to finally know that there IS a difference and now know what to look for.

  • @KT-yq7ed
    @KT-yq7ed Жыл бұрын

    Darling you are a Cutie-pie!!!!!😂👵🏻. Love that you live in my State bc I can count on when to plant something since our climate is the same…..this old lady planted green beans, limas, bell peppers, oh and in containers…Oriental Eggplant….it’s a lot of work for me but I do what I can….my green beans developed a bacterial something and I can’t find where I put my Neem Oil” 🤷🏻‍♀️….🤣 I direct sowed Tomato Seeds (Romas and Red Delicious) and put too many in the container!!!!! Will never do that again……I tried….Love all your informative videos…..keep up the good work….Gram

  • @bluewolf4915
    @bluewolf4915 Жыл бұрын

    I think the myth of "all at once" comes from farmers who HAVE to harvest all at once with machines. Not all of their tomatoes ripen all at once either they only keep the ripe ones and spread the green ones back onto the field to compost. Thanks for suggesting Siletz earlier in the year. Just picked the first ripe one and it was very good. 👍🏻

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed Siletz! It's a very special tomato.

  • @bruc33ef
    @bruc33ef Жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate how you stack your vids like your garden -- no wasted time or space. High yield vids!

  • @anthonyloguirato8006
    @anthonyloguirato8006 Жыл бұрын

    You are spot on. I am from southeastern Pennsylvania in Bucks County and this year the heat has really done a job on my tomatoes but the only ones standing now are the determinant tomatoes which are thriving still. I think I’m going to start growing a lot more determinate and cut down on the indeterminate because I have much more success with the determinate tomatoes. Thanks again for a terrific video!

  • @CurtisBrandt
    @CurtisBrandt Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate these words. Tried a few determinate tomatoes last year and found what you say to be true! Will be growing many more this year!

  • @gailalli8086
    @gailalli8086 Жыл бұрын

    InDeterminate grower here! It’s what I’ve always grown! Roma to be specific. I love how fast they grow, I love how they taste even in a sandwich and so much more, and for me I get great harvests! I grew just two plants in a raised bed this year, planted them end of April. They are still producing! I’ve had the most beautiful fruit this year despite this horrible heat, humidity and drought! Every time I try growing indeterminate, including this year, I’m disappointed. Low yields, problems with pests or disease, And way more upkeep than my faithful Romas! So I am so glad you are making this video!!!

  • @lorr.jones8887

    @lorr.jones8887

    Жыл бұрын

    What variety of Roma's are they? I didn't know there were determinate ones. I've only found indeterminate ones.

  • @00Recoil

    @00Recoil

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lorr.jones8887 Most Romas are determinate. I think Gail was a little cryptic with the first word of her post.

  • @ivanpare3836
    @ivanpare3836 Жыл бұрын

    Amen. Your deterinate posts have confermed my lived xperience. I am 64 yrs. Old and have just recently been converted to this message. Hoping your info will help up and comming gardeners alongthelearning curve sooner. GOOD JOB

  • @kb1236
    @kb1236 Жыл бұрын

    I agree as well! I grew both determinates and indeterminates this year and they have been just as productive and still going. The determinates were a little smaller plants but other than that they produce just as long as the indeterminates in Georgia . Red Snapper has big beautiful beefsteak size tomatoes and the plants are still going.

  • @ivettesantana4319
    @ivettesantana4319 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with you 500%! I am a gardener that observes the plants behavior rather than listen to every gardener and all you are talking about is what I learned.

  • @bigrich6750
    @bigrich6750 Жыл бұрын

    Celebrity was one of the first tomatoes I ever grew. It had just come out as an AAS winner and I read about it in the old Organic Gardening magazine and ordered some seeds. It performed fantastically.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    I worked on a farm from Age 11-17 back in the late 90's/early 2000's. All the farmer grew was Celebrity. No other varieties. They were split-proof, produced like crazy, every one was picture-perfect. People would drive from Pennsylvania to our farm in NJ to buy them.

  • @babystepsgarden6162
    @babystepsgarden6162 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! I am def. going to try growing determinant tomatoes! Thank you! This year (my first garden) I found that I can grow a garden and get produce from it. Lots of mistakes along the way, and it still grew. I honestly didn't think it would. But I tried. I hoped. I prayed. It grew. 😊 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ There is So much to learn about gardening, and it's so much fun. Hard work at first, but def. A lot of fun. Thank you for sharing your love of gardening, and teaching us how to garden.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    Great job starting a garden! That's excellent. I've been in the garden since diapers, and I still make mistakes all the time. When I moved from the Northeast to the South, I had to learn all over again! Just remember, there are no such thing as failures, only learning experiences. You only fail if you give up and quit. Every year, things go wrong. Learn from them, and try another angle next year. Every year, they'll get better and better. Start slow, and every year, add a few more things. Don't forget to try a fruit tree or two. They grow themselves and produce for a lifetime!

  • @suehill6194

    @suehill6194

    Жыл бұрын

    that hard work never goes away..just gets (hopefully) more efficient. plus hard work feels good. Great job on your first garden and happy gardening!

  • @DyesubDave
    @DyesubDave Жыл бұрын

    So true. I have both determinate and indeterminate tomatoes and some are doing FANTASTIC this year while others are not. It's all about trial and error to see which varieties of each grow best in your climate and soil type. And of course ones that taste good to you. Thanks for the informative video.

  • @helenvannest7397
    @helenvannest7397 Жыл бұрын

    Tried determinate this year and never going back- delicious 😋-productive - space saving -and no pruning Best thing I ever did in the garden! I only tried this because of your earlier video, thanks you soooo much for the helpful info 🍅🍅🍅🍅

  • @sandramorton5510
    @sandramorton5510 Жыл бұрын

    I agree, I had determinate tomatoes planted in September, highly productive through two freezes, removed them in March to replaced with new ones. I love determinate.

  • @bettydillingham1498
    @bettydillingham1498 Жыл бұрын

    Well, now I’m really intrigued. I’m not much of a tomato gardener but decided to try three varieties of determinant tomatoes for the first time this year. Since I didn’t get them started until mid-June, I’m still waiting for the results. I decided to try determinant varieties for the first time in the hopes that the smaller plant size would help make me more successful. Your video has made me look forward to trying the actual tomatoes. Thanks for your info. I’ve subscribed and will go back and watch other videos. I’ve got a lot to learn.

  • @christophershaw4608
    @christophershaw46082 ай бұрын

    Great advice. It validated my experience with tomatoes. You rock. I appreciate how informative you are my dude! Thank you! From TX

  • @kittiew260
    @kittiew260 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome update & I agree 100%. I tried siletz this year because you suggested it & thank you. Enjoying them. Good boy Dale. Hope he got an extra treat for finding the critters. 😉

  • @jeffbradford1999
    @jeffbradford1999 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for debunking these myths. Of the tomatoes I have grown from seed the determinate plants have done best. The heat this year has been brutal on all crops but especially my tomatoes. I learn alot from you,thanks.

  • @schnder1
    @schnder14 ай бұрын

    I am enjoying all of your videos. "It pays to have a Dale" just made me smile. I have an Ollie, (a rescue from a reservation) and we feel the same. Our Ollie is our cherished king of his castle. Thank you for all of your great videos!

  • @gregryeii403
    @gregryeii4032 ай бұрын

    I agree a person should grow both. Look at your climate and your growing season. If you plan carefully you can have a very long harvest season

  • @S.Kay.Steffy
    @S.Kay.Steffy Жыл бұрын

    Wow, another great video. You are such a wealth of information😊👍. This is the first year I have had a garden and I ended up getting both kinds of tomatoes. I must say, the determinants are much easier for his senior citizen to handle. Honestly, when I bought the starts (not brave enough to try seeds yet) I didn’t understand the difference between the two…but I’ve learned so much from your videos that have helped along the way. Thank you!

  • @soniamarshall9293
    @soniamarshall9293 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the pro and cons to both types. Good helpful video.

  • @brianmodlin1537
    @brianmodlin1537 Жыл бұрын

    I live in Winston-Salem, NC. Last year I grew some tiny treats tomatoes and I had a great harvest. I also grew some beefsteak tomatoes the last two years, I did not have a great harvest. The tiny treats was not much work and they were great for my environment. I glad I watched this video. This year I will be growing determined tomatoes this year.

  • @ctraugh2005
    @ctraugh2005 Жыл бұрын

    I have both, and I was planning next year to go all determinant. I love the fact that they stay smaller than my indeterminant and they are so much less work. I agree with every point you made. Thank you for the video.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    I still grow mostly indeterminate, but that's because I'm a hobbyist/enthusiast. If I were growing strictly for production and food storage, I'd grow all determinates and not waste my time with indeterminates other than cherry types. Determinates just produce so much more food per square foot!

  • @rachellemazar7374
    @rachellemazar7374 Жыл бұрын

    Hi from the SanFrancisco east Bay Area. I have a couple of 8x4 ft raised beds that are fully enclosed so I have been trying dwarf tomatoes with only moderate success. This year I planted Siltez, Stupice, Patio, and Super Bush. I am happy to hear your endorsement of Siltez. I learned a lot from your video and I’m glad I have pruned my plants yet.

  • @tomgreenwood4769
    @tomgreenwood4769 Жыл бұрын

    I live in Salem Oregon now for eight years and was raised in San Diego, in Cali you can grow tomatoes because of the weather, but here it’s a little more challenging I have grown indeterminate Tom’s and labored endlessly cutting them back and vining them and not getting much harvest! This year I’m growing way more determinate tomatoes! Thanks so much for your advice. You can’t buy a good tomato here during the season not like in Cali So I’m looking forward to changing with your experience thanks again! Tommy G.

  • @lidip8700
    @lidip870011 ай бұрын

    Last year (2022) my Determinate Romas were going strong all summer, with less disease. As the nights were getting down to the 40s and everything from our summer sowing had died, Romas were still producing fruit. I pulled all the large green ones before pulling the plant (so I could seed my fall garden). The green Romas were still nice, firm & red sitting on my kitchen counter. We ate the last one in January!! I always grow Rutgers, Romas & Celebrities. Thanks for another great video!

  • @AlvinMcManus
    @AlvinMcManus Жыл бұрын

    I am adding in determinates at this point in the season shooting for mid-Sept ripening. I added this video to my Tomato Playlist. You didn't have to sell me, but you did a good job of sell the point.

  • @jnviljoen5679
    @jnviljoen5679 Жыл бұрын

    I rate your channel as one of the best! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into making these videos and the invaluable research you share. Take care

  • @shorty8256
    @shorty8256 Жыл бұрын

    Love the video...I too grow both determinate and indeterminate tomato plants and my determinate tomato plants outperform my indeterminate tomato plants funny thing both in my garden beds and amazing in 25 gallon buckets...so really appreciate your videos and I am willing to try some of your tomato variety recommendations! All the best to you and Dale!

  • @charlie5204
    @charlie5204 Жыл бұрын

    This year I tried few determined tomatoes and most of them are very productive, where I have indetermined tomates with less than they have. So I will check their taste and in case I like it they will find a place in my garden next year.

  • @joanies6778
    @joanies6778 Жыл бұрын

    Great info. I always planted indeterminate San Marzano just because I loved the flavor and they're great for sauces. Then I couldn't find seeds, so I opted for a determinate Roma. Later, I found the seeds and now will grow both.

  • @tesswagner895
    @tesswagner895 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this !!! I just love how you go into such detail on such a simple level! Excellent to share with beginners🌻🌻🌻💞🌻🌻🌻

  • @VermiCast_Garden
    @VermiCast_Garden Жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more with this video. A smart take on reality when it comes to growing tomatoes. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Gardenfnp
    @Gardenfnp Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for going over the differences. I never knew the difference so was not sure how to care for both.

  • @user-wz8dt3jv8g
    @user-wz8dt3jv8g10 ай бұрын

    This is my 1st year of adding determinate varieties, and they have been healthier and more productive than the indeterminate tomatoes I planted. Already planning for next year with more determinates that I’m going to add.

  • @BramptonGardener
    @BramptonGardener Жыл бұрын

    This is my first year with determinate. I'm growing several dwarf varias well. This was great, I had heard those myths as well, and wasn't interested in determinate because of that. I'm in Southern Ontario and the dwarfs have worked great, I can start them indfs in January and they're manageable until April when they grow in the greenhouse. I'm growing marglobe for the first time this year, I've only gotten so far, but it was tasty. Thanks for the info.

  • @nickbristol3457
    @nickbristol3457 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Growing some determinate tomatoes this year!!

  • @BrainsOfMush09
    @BrainsOfMush095 ай бұрын

    I grew 8 determinate roma plants in 2023 and had nearly 85 lbs of romas.

  • @lynnlovessoil
    @lynnlovessoil3 ай бұрын

    I have been binge watching your tomato videos. Excited for the spring.

  • @jimoyler1780
    @jimoyler1780 Жыл бұрын

    I have been growing determinate tomatoes and other crops this year. I also have found that hybrid versions are much more rewarding too. I enjoy the videos.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! You may also be interested in looking at Dwarf Tomato Project varieties. They are not particularly disease resistant, but they're fun to mess with early in the season. The fruits are fantastic.

  • @pristineperistome5696
    @pristineperistome5696 Жыл бұрын

    This makes me feel better about my current tomato situation. Several determinate, 5 or so “big boy ” indeterminate and only I think 2 super sweet 100 indeterminate. And now I have bought more seeds I’ll start now for later season or in pots if I want to use shade

  • @stanclayton221
    @stanclayton221 Жыл бұрын

    For the past 3+ decades I lived and grew indeterminate tomatoes in northern California a few miles outside Napa in near-perfect conditions. I'd start seeds in our sunroom in January, transplant in March, shade in June, and harvest beautiful tomatoes until November's or December's frosts. It was like a textbook case for indeterminates. Then I retired to the Piedmont of North Carolina and tried the same varieties. Oops, big mistake...HUGE! Now I'm looking for some Celebrity starts so I'm not hopelessly behind, and succession plant them. Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • @SecondComingTwice
    @SecondComingTwice Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the input. I'm growing a crop of plumb tomatoes for the first time and they are much heavier with fruit than all but one of my indeterminate breeds. Too much heat this summer for some of my favorite slicing tomatoes, and some blight(?) but I'm more than happy with the new plot growing in last year's wood chips without a raised-bed. Squash too, although the volunteer pumpkin hybrids I could have done without.

  • @sherreeroper7656
    @sherreeroper7656 Жыл бұрын

    I've learned so much from you. Like that you can't leave a cucumber to turn yellow. As for tomatoes, I keep hearing that they're full of lectins? Only the peel and seeds... I thought determinate meant it doesn't get leggie and indeterminate grow and grow all over the place. Anyway it's a crap shoot here, I feed my chickens tomatoes and I have tomatoes growing everywhere. 😌 I have so many roots,to see something growing in the ground..I sometimes top off my indeterminate, pick the suckers( if I see them) it's hard to find determinate tomatoes I look at the tag. But I didn't know to not prune them.. a BIG Thankyou to you!

  • @SusanHilesArt
    @SusanHilesArt Жыл бұрын

    I live in Jersey and just pulled out my indeterminate plants and planted Tiny Tim determinate seeds. I plant only in containers and it's my first year gardening, so everything is an experiment for me. I hope I have more success with the Tiny Tim determinates than I had with the beefsteak indeterminates. Thanks for another very informative video!

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! I recommend looking into Celebrity and Bella Rosa if you want the "easiest to grow" beefsteaks. They are tough plants.

  • @darnelldunaway9244
    @darnelldunaway9244 Жыл бұрын

    You are a wealth of knowledge. Learned a lot. Thanks.

  • @eviemarino3562
    @eviemarino3562 Жыл бұрын

    Love all the information you provide in your videos! Will definitely try determinant tomatoes next year. Also interested in the Dwarf tomato project. Could you recommend a meaty variety for dehydrating for tomato powder. Learning so much from your shared knowledge. Thank you! Hi to Dale, such a good boy❤️

  • @annissa485
    @annissa485 Жыл бұрын

    I really like determinate because the space savings. I tried the mini tomato plant this year and I enjoy that one also.

  • @MichaelRei99
    @MichaelRei99 Жыл бұрын

    You make a very convincing argument for having determinate tomatoes. I’m convinced!!

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    I recommend giving them a shot, but with the understanding that they must be treated very differently than indeterminates. They must be staked and not pruned. Never remove suckers, or you won't get a good harvest. Determinates thrive on neglect. You'll still want to do some due diligence with fungicides and pesticides if you have that issue in your climate, but the less you touch the plants, the better in general.

  • @SarahBahou
    @SarahBahouАй бұрын

    First time gardener this year and I bought several indeterminate and 1 Roma determinate and so far the Roma has been the easiest! So good to know foe next year!

  • @claudiauhlir2282
    @claudiauhlir2282 Жыл бұрын

    Great! I didn’t even know about these two types of tomatoes. Now I know what to plant. Thanks a lot!

  • @sandieweatherup
    @sandieweatherup Жыл бұрын

    I only grow determinant tomatoes due to space limitations. Thanks for the list of varieties you like. I'm growing Celebriry here in Georgia, but I'll try some of the others next year.

  • @katrinagarland5219
    @katrinagarland5219 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent information... just what I was looking for as I am starting my garden this season. Thanks!

  • @DawnaRo
    @DawnaRo Жыл бұрын

    This year I am only growing determinant and dwarf tomatoes. I NEVER was able to keep up with prunning and staking and now that I'm losing my sight it's almost impossible. I grew one determinant and 6 dwarfs last year and I'm hooked! No more "jungle" tomatoes that I can't tame and keep where they are supposed to be! I'm glad I.saw your video from last fall showing how good the determinants did. That along with seeing how good my one plant was doing convinced me.

  • @veatplants6721
    @veatplants6721 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, for the excellent points made. It will help a lot next growing season. Thanks also for sharing some of your favorite determinates.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! I'm glad I can help point you in the right direction!

  • @pixellightmedia
    @pixellightmedia Жыл бұрын

    I grow both, love having the variety! Great vid!!

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the way to do it! Thanks for watching!

  • @preppernut
    @preppernut Жыл бұрын

    I used to live in a very short season area (zone 2b), and determinate tomatoes were the only ones that managed to ripen in the greenhouse. They were Santiam and Siletz. Decent size and good taste. I've added a cherry tomato called '42 Days', which does well in containers, it is also determinate and extremely early. I have just found your videos and will definitely share them.

  • @nickzivs
    @nickzivs Жыл бұрын

    100% agree. For the first 3 years of my gardening career, I've gone for indeterminate only growing one determinate (Carolina Gold) which had blossom end rot issues (potted plant) each time I grew that variety and it turned me off vs indeterminate. However, last year I grew a Mountain Merit hybrid that was super productive, allowed me to succession plant up here in Southern Ontario, and was resistant to the "early" late blight that hit and eventual took out my indeterminate by late August. The yield was better, the plant was far more compact, and the taste was sensational. Obviously, I still like growing indeterminate predominantly for the funky varieties/specific cherry tomatoes that do exceptionally well, but your video definitely persuaded me to grow more of a 50/50 split of indeterminate and determinate and thus far when we've been dealing with 100% humidity nights in the 60s and upwards of 110F sticky spells, the determinate varieties are far more stable and productive. Thanks for the advice on the topic and for all the videos you put out, it's a wealth of knowledge.

  • @YourPalSal4
    @YourPalSal4Ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video! I have grown several determinate cherry tomato varieties indoors in a hydroponic setting, and in my experience they can continue to produce indefinitely in the absence of disease and environmental pressures. They kind of look like they’re about to die after each harvest, but as soon as you pick all the fruits they go right back into foliage and flower production.

  • @mikeedge2119
    @mikeedge21192 ай бұрын

    This year 2024 I went determinate all the way they seem to be easier to grow here in Georgia thanks for this video it made a lot of sense

  • @raymondpinner8328
    @raymondpinner8328 Жыл бұрын

    I am growing a bunch of determinants this year for the first time. So far so good.

  • @ljgerken
    @ljgerken Жыл бұрын

    You're on a roll! Love it! Truth be told! I am in Central Florida and I am harvesting sun golds right now and they are pushing seven feet, and just getting started. Who wants to get on a ladder to pick that high anyway? So, if I pinch the top of these plants, will they grow more fruit sets lower down on the horizontal branches?

  • @johnrody1645
    @johnrody16456 ай бұрын

    Nice work. I’m from Philadelphia trying to get used to Vero Beach growing. Gonna try the determinate.

  • @learhodes942
    @learhodes942 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much you just ancered all my problems with growing tomatoes. My Mom and Dad have been gone a long time . I remember they just planted the tomatoes in a row no stakes just some kind of line and let them grow so many tomatoes clear up till frost they were the best tasting. Now thanks to you. I know what to do. I am learning a lot from you. Thanks again!

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! I'm glad the video was helpful! Determinate tomatoes still benefit from some support. However, it's a lot simpler than indeterminate types.

  • @emilybarner3440
    @emilybarner34406 ай бұрын

    I enjoy your evidence-based presentation of information, and also Adventures With Dale. 🙏

  • @rolande6342
    @rolande6342 Жыл бұрын

    Glad to learn this for my next gardening season. Thank you !!

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @davidhoward2412
    @davidhoward24124 ай бұрын

    I'm just getting started in this planting journey so I'm totally open minded. I realy don't understand someone getting upset about diverse opinions. I take the advise for what it is worth to me and say thank you then do my thing with or without the advise. Thanks to ALL the channels that guide me with my best Interest at heart. They share with no requirement of payment . God bless you all❤

  • @Waterlily480
    @Waterlily480 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this! I am tired of chasing the tips and trying to keep indeterminates balanced in my deck pots! No more tomato jungle! I was well pleased with the determinate I had last year. This year only a few plus a few cherries. More varieties of veg and flowers instead.

  • @tmcdatty
    @tmcdatty Жыл бұрын

    It’s been the reverse for us this year, low production on the determinates but huge continuing harvests for the indeterminates. Slowing a bit now but plants are still going strong! I have been spraying weekly with a diluted baking soda solution and disease has been kept under control. One interesting variety we are growing is “Candyland” which is a currant type, hundreds of very small sweet fruits. Give this a try. On your suggestion I have started some tomatoes for (hopefully) a late fall harvest. Wish us luck!

  • @cynthiamartinez5884
    @cynthiamartinez5884 Жыл бұрын

    You've convinced me to grow more determinate tomatoes! Out of a dozen plants I grew this year, the only ones still alive are two determinates.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm happy the video could be helpful! Determinate tomatoes are amazing. They're workhorses!

  • @ABetterMeee
    @ABetterMeee Жыл бұрын

    Bless your heart for sharing this knowledge, Thank you.

  • @myrafrancois6582
    @myrafrancois6582 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with everything you said. Indeterminate tomatoes were a lot of work (albeit work that I enjoyed) but the determinate tomatoes are still producing though a bit tired. I will probably always plant both types because I like learning and growing is the best way to learn. I also find that small/mini tomatoes are prolific producers, at least in my area of the Northeast. Love your vids.

  • @51rwyatt
    @51rwyatt Жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Will definitely do a few determinate varieties next season.

  • @mgguygardening
    @mgguygardeningАй бұрын

    Great video, thank you! We've sold our house and are moving in a month so couldn't plant my tomatoes in the yard this year. I have 2 plots in a community garden that I want to put tomatoes in but can't provide the proper vining trellis that I usually use for indeterminate tomatoes. I want to try determinite tomotoes for the first time. You've given me confidence that I can and might actually do better (here in southern Ontario we end up with humidity issues, and it sounds like the determinite might do better for us anyway.) It's going to be a great experiment!

  • @zachshott7833
    @zachshott7833 Жыл бұрын

    My indeterminate varieties did great this year, but the determinate variety not so much. I believe the mistake I made, other than getting a bit of a late start, was buying plants that had fruit on them already.

  • @renedean4232
    @renedean4232 Жыл бұрын

    👍, I didn't know my 2 determinate tomatoes were so, & I pruned😢 but, amazingly, still have a few product coming😊 thanks, love them!

  • @rosedowling3690
    @rosedowling3690 Жыл бұрын

    Not only do I Love your videos but now Love you even more bc you're from Jersey but now living in TN LOL Planned on planting determinate bc its my first season ... Hoping Roma n San Marzano are determinate .. Looking into that

  • @donaldp9259
    @donaldp9259 Жыл бұрын

    You convinced me. I'll try determinates this upcoming season for the first time.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    They're much easier to manage and grow. Just remember that determinate varieties should *not* be pruned. Stake them when young and let them grow.

  • @rnorth9286
    @rnorth9286 Жыл бұрын

    Great info. Facts over myths for the win! Zone 7b this year my indeterminate tomato yields have been outstanding.🍅 Apparently there's plenty of time left in the season to experiment with determinate varieties now that daytime temps are falling down to the 80s. I'll get started right away. First frost is not expected until mid November. 🤗

  • @wildbullfrog957
    @wildbullfrog957 Жыл бұрын

    Planted determinate tomatoes for the first time in Fall garden. Thanks for info.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding! Thanks for watching!

  • @mirandam8021
    @mirandam8021 Жыл бұрын

    Dale is a good boy! My brindle mix boy Leo checks the perimeter of my yard too. Loves to chase away the rabbits! Thanks for the info on the determinate type of tomato. I looked through my seeds and I only have 2 varieties. Will be growing them next year!

  • @alancarter4270
    @alancarter4270 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video brother. I will grow more determinates this season. I can argue with your data because you present honest truth IMHO. I only grew early girls in memory of my ex-wife grandfather , who massive plants.

  • @Vora_Vixen
    @Vora_Vixen Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this! I will stop avoiding them and try them out sometime! :)

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent! They're really helpful.

  • @Gkrissy
    @Gkrissy Жыл бұрын

    Yes I like marglobe and I grew them last year and canned them. I have never heard of the other varieties mentioned in the video.

  • @barbaralong8665
    @barbaralong86654 ай бұрын

    Love variety and use variety. Learning about new tomato varieties and like heat tolerant varieties

  • @tinab7791
    @tinab7791 Жыл бұрын

    Without knowing anything about gardening I inadvertently grew determinate varieties for years. This year I decided to get serious about it and took all the internet advice to get indeterminate varieties, and what a freaking nightmare lol. It doesn't help that we've had a completely atypical year weather wise but I still just like the ease of growing determinates. I'm definitely going back to the determinates!

  • @beverlyboyce1041
    @beverlyboyce1041 Жыл бұрын

    I ordered a bunch more of the Dwarf tomato project varieties earlier this season. Bella Rosa was definitely a winner for me last year. I forgot to sow any this year. Red Snapper was very similar to Bella Rosa.

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    Everything Hoss recommends is tough. Their climate is just like mine, so if it grows for them, I know I can handle it 😀

  • @lorihardman1833
    @lorihardman1833 Жыл бұрын

    I will be trying determinate tomatoes next spring! Thank you for this video, very informative!

  • @TheMillennialGardener

    @TheMillennialGardener

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! I think you'll enjoy them. They're much easier and more fruitful.

  • @islanderdraws
    @islanderdraws2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for dispelling some of the rigidity that new growers tend to adhere to. I now have a better plan of attack. Thank you!✌

  • @samantharussell6307
    @samantharussell6307 Жыл бұрын

    I am in Australia so I am getting ready for the season and this year I am only growing determinant verities as I have never had much luck with indeterminate and a grew a couple of determinant last year and they went really well so I’m sticking with those great video

  • @dinacasey7034
    @dinacasey7034 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the great information!! DCasey from Missouri

  • @kathgenest3023
    @kathgenest3023 Жыл бұрын

    Our local deer really love my determinant to my tomatoes. I am devastated they stole my first real red tomato the night before my planned pick! I’m so determined I dug them up and moved inside my lanai in 5 gal buckets to save fruit for us. From Tampa Fl thanks for your advice, I’ve learned a ton