Full Apex player mouse/controller breakdown here: diamondlobby.com/review/best-apex-legends-mouse/

7:22 and imperialhal even switched from mouse to roller cause he knows how much more easier and consistent it can get for just raw aiming which this shows pretty well. Compared to a mouse that has so many variables with mousepad glide, mouse skates, sweat/humidity on the pad, or on the arms/wrist skin that can drag on the pad and fuck up your aim everytime you try to go for a kill. a controller you just barely move a thumbstick that even snaps back into its center position by itself, this fact plus low sens is huge. you only have to micro poke the stick to aim and readjust. No matter how fast and agile someone can be with a mouse and movement cause he can 360 a cople times in a second, in the end it comes down to one clean track to get in dmg which is the easiest with a roller. Even without Aim assist it's so much easier. In my opinion they should split controller and mnk once and for all for any game, aim assist or not!

E-sport is at such high level you can play with aim assist on tournament. True show of skill.

"aim assist is not a problem in competitive fps" aim assist:

@mundodosgames08

10 ай бұрын

@@Scandalmiez cod is not a competitive fps. It's a casual arcade shooter.

@Hk7762Tube

10 ай бұрын

@@mundodosgames08 Apex is a random bullshit go BR, no a competitive FPS like Quake, CS or TF.

@mundodosgames08

10 ай бұрын

@@Hk7762Tube it's definitely not as mechanically challenging as something like CS, but the skill ceiling compared to something like COD is tenfold. Also COD has always been known for the arcade casual gameplay, easy to pick up and play, so much so even activision and their studios neglected ranked play for so many years. There is really no comparison.

@snorQz

10 ай бұрын

Tbh the mix of MnK and roller Is the worst shit that happen to FPS 💀💀

@maozedowner5915

10 ай бұрын

Aim assist in FPS is completely bad. It's breaking competitive integrity. It's like racing cars against motorcycles.

You can tell me what you want, but if only 1/3 of the top 15 players use mice and the rest use controllers the AA is essentailly broken. I dont care what anybody says, the AA is too obviously too strong, ie broken.

@Oscvrz

10 ай бұрын

Use a controller then

@stephankim8086

10 ай бұрын

They can't change it because most of the community is on controller

@TheACTIONZ

10 ай бұрын

​@@Hk7762Tubeit's alot easier to get good with controller, while kbm has more potential, while taking way more time.

@brian4893

9 ай бұрын

@@TheACTIONZ besides flicking onto targets faster the extreme precision you can achieve on controller with AA definitely gives it a higher potential for most games that heavily involve tracking

@mes2009

9 ай бұрын

@undeniable6763 control u not play not aiming is bot do all that

No matter how much you want to make fun of people having issues with aim assist it's not gonna change that it's detrimental to the scene. It just makes the whole thing feels less well-rounded when mechanical skills aren't as important as the other things.

as a die hard MnK player, I appreciate you leaving it at top 4. Top 5 is really just overkill :]

Would love to see a mousepad breakdown as well. I was blown away seeing so many SkyPADs at ALGS this year.

@XDGoose41

10 ай бұрын

i guess that makes sense with the mentioned fast paced gameplay, a easy glide pad would make movements that much easier and quicker again on top of a lightweight mouse.

@fizz_time7003

10 ай бұрын

Artisan

@xtremefps_

10 ай бұрын

@@fizz_time7003 I have an artisan hien xl soft, doesn't compare to my skypad 3.0 xl. much better experience imo. easier to clean. glass pads are where it's at.

Your tattoos are straight-up inspiration for my future sleeve(s). Beautiful. Also great video, subscribed

Your videos are one of the only few informational nerdy mice videos that I don't click off after 1 minute. So entertaining and funny. Keep it up!

and that is why aim assist is one of the biggest problems of competitive apex (basicaly all the apex, since the playerbase is sweatier than the 150kg gamer in a 40 degree weather)

Love these videos, you should do the same format but with mousepads :0

Some of this is just generational differences most of the top CS players built their muscle memory with mice with the older heavier mice before the new wave performance ones.

Reps knows what's up and shows you can still perform good with a older and heavier mouse. After all shape is king and the g305 really is such a good shape imo. I was still rockin the g305 until about half a year ago. Was hoping Logitech would of dropped a updated and lighter version of it, but they're straight slackin. Ended up getting a Small SL12 and its been a good alternative. Got the Atlantis mini on the way too. Heard great things.

@BruceWayne-wh4of

10 ай бұрын

I mean bro, have you seen how thicc his arms are? The guy is pressing weights every free second. Obviously he doesn't have issues with a heavy mouse lmao

@Ottoni174

10 ай бұрын

i would still go for an egg shaped mouse but lighter one on a control pad, it would still feel controled but less tiring on the fingers and wrist which i felt disconfort at when i used it, now im using the pulsar x2 and i can play for hours and hours without any disconfort

Love your humor, stoicyness, sarcasm and vibe. or Everything!!!!!

Would be cool to see a mousepad version of this vid!

Bro you do your research very well 👍

Solid video, thanks!

can you please make a video on the zaopin z1 pro, seems like a really good budget option and would absolutely love to see a review on it from a trustworthy tech reviewer like u 🙏

Been waiting on this one

Me using the same mouse as Reps makes me feel powerful. Tho I do want to change mice cause yeah. The G305 is still a tad of a heavyweight. Good thing Lamzu and Aria has some good alternatives for me.

@ItsZim0

10 ай бұрын

Have you seen the size of Reps biceps? You could give him old Razer Mamba and he'll still one clipping everyone

@imFurbs

10 ай бұрын

G305 is such a amazing shape man. I was maining the g305 shape for like 5 years back when it was also the OG G pro shape. Continued to the G305 up til a few months ago. Now rockin the Starlight small and its a good alternative. Lamzu Mini is also on the way and thinking that will also be killer. Sucks logitech is slackin so hard on releasing a updated lighter version of the g305. I was waiting so long for one but they seem to be falling off. Guess they making so much $$$ of those Superlight sales to care.

@Kruzun

10 ай бұрын

@@imFurbs the lamzu mini has been out for awhile. maybe low stock but its released. look into ajazz aj199 its a china mouse with same internals as an atlantis but smaller similar shape to a viper mini.

cant wait for Masters Tokyo mice breakdown

You definitely have the most sickest tattoos out of all the mouse reviewers out there... No doubt... Great video as always, keep up the good work!

Hi DiamondLobby Reviews, been watching some of your videos lately, amazing content. I have a request to make, can you do this concept video but with the game Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege, if so tysm in advance

Another one of these for next lan please

I saw Jusna is using xtrfy m42 wireless in this LAN,not m4

Ski telle kake is probably one of the hardest name to pronounce out there, god bless his soul!

It's pretty obviouse when ImperialHal who has well over 10k hours on MnK switched to controller because its a more consisten input with aim assist

@vasudevanvenkataraman5587

10 ай бұрын

I thought it's purely to prove a point that controllers aim assist is broken

Wow you truly achieved greatness

we need glass desks at tournaments for controller players lol

Lamzu maya, when it comes out is going to boost their numbers big time

Hey Diamond. What about monitor size? Was it 24-25" or 27-28"?

@rzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzrz

10 ай бұрын

22-24” is the standard

you're my favorite product reviewer

Jusna gear: MOUSE : xtrfy m42 retro MOUSE PAD: QcK Heavy KEYBOARD : APEX PRO

As an apex player glorious model o is so fucking op

Skittle is truly diff if this man used light mouse with lower sense nobody would stop him

I'm on the hunt for a new mouse. I have the g pro wireless but it's too small for my hands. Looking for something bigger but as reliable as the gpro.

@TheACTIONZ

10 ай бұрын

Xm1r

It’s crazy that you have less then 100k subs! Genuinely the most entertaining mouse review videos on KZread

ImperialHal literally switched to controller to prove the point about it giving you an advantage. Aim assist in modern games is a joke

love how an objectively worse way to play the game is artificially boosted like this, aim assist shouldn't exist in crossplay and console players should be allowed to use MnK

1:50 I guess they are razer finalmouse zowie

controllers reviews soon?

Surprised no Pulsar mouses were used tbh

perfect timing too I don’t even have notis on

@DiamondLobbyReviews

10 ай бұрын

there's still time to fix that

😮 My worldview has been shattered.

Hahaha bro I’m crying 😂. When you were showing all the players with highest kills on controller then #5 on mouse! I lost it when you went back up one and said it doesn’t contribute to my rage bathe hahahahaha

Are there really people that keep ketchup in the cupboard? WTF?

Nah when you said Skittlecakes, I lost it...

dude, I didn't know reps using relatively 'cheap' mouse, consider he's one of the best pros in apex scene.

Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but why would they let controller and mouse be use in a tournament knowing that controller have aim assist? Unless it's turn off to even the playing field?

@DiamondLobbyReviews

10 ай бұрын

No aim assist on controller wouldn't be an even playing field; when you move a mouse to the right, your aim is adjusted right. when you move a controller stick right, you will continue turning right until you let it move back to the centre again - small delay and different adjustment As for answering the main question... 🤷‍♂️ -Luke

Wawawawait aminute...Las Chivas got an esports team now lmaooo.

It's kind of funny that the guy who uses the heaviest mouse plays with the highest sens @ 4320 eDPI.

@VivaLaRazsa

10 ай бұрын

just use a 502 and you can skip arm day at the gym

@ikkstrikknak

10 ай бұрын

It's natural, the heavy mouse is giving you more control thus it's benefitting high sens styles while on the other hand if you are a low sens player you wanna go with light mice. This is what I feel reviewers are not considering when reviewing mice.

@KurozawaOfficialYT

10 ай бұрын

​@@ikkstrikknaktru i use 90g mouse with 10,000 dpi and 0.1 sens in val. Didnt expect so much control

@helio3630

10 ай бұрын

w0xic the highest sens CSGO pro played at 3200edpi a Steelseries Sensei Raw/Ten (90g+) pretty much his whole career. He usually plays on 2400edpi these days but that is still insanely ridiculous for tac fps. He tries other mice but always ends up going back, so there must be a good reason :D

@ikkstrikknak

10 ай бұрын

@@helio3630 you can also notice that whenever proplayers are switching to lighter mice they always adjust their sens by lowering it

Never wipe, just pad that bad boy.

nom,ber one finalmoused

Skitalecakes? xD think of the sweets skittles. And a cake. and put them together and you get: Skittlecakes

4:55 wtf was that lmao

I'd guess Logi, Razer and Finalmosue, because it's apex.

@NathanMian

10 ай бұрын

Ah, almost... Forgot Lamzu!

Waw.. 75 kills

Cant take a game seriously if controller is able to keep up with keyboard and mouse. Means theres some fundamentally wrong with it for me

Let’s about mousepad

Logitech, Razer, Vaxee, Finalmouse

@TheACTIONZ

10 ай бұрын

(edited)

Finalmouse, Glorious, Razer

@Fllemingo

10 ай бұрын

Damn I was close

Final mouse

Logitech g305 users rise up!

39% of apex pros? so out of remaining 10 MNK players, 4 of them have a dame mouse hmm

But does it really matter what they use to play with? GPX used to be best mice like 3 years ago? Some people moved on, some still use it, cause they like the shape or they are sponsored by Logitech so they are not going to buy themselves a mice, why, they got it for free

@djmimo9735

9 ай бұрын

they get free stuff from logitech every month that’s why they use logitech they sponsored

@suparcamel5852

7 ай бұрын

@@djmimo9735most of them are not sponsored still using the superlight

logitech, pulsar, and lamzu, apex thats means light mouse for speeddddddddddddd aim

Thanks for showing me that I should never play Apex - I fucking hate aim assist in competitive games

As a MNK Apex player I love being getting beamed by a 12 Year old controller kid fk this shit Apex is not a good competitive game because of controller and mnk input

AIM ASSIST = MORE KILLS Thats why controller players are on the top of kill list

1st logitech 2nd razer 3rd uhhmmmm idk tie between lamzu and finalmouse edit: I cheated

idrk why they dont all use a fm or something, you'd think they all want the best of the best

Controllers are for games like Spyro 😂☠️

I might be alone on this but any time I use controller I play like I have feet for hands. The controller "advantage" doesn't exist (for me).

@vorabahs

10 ай бұрын

Same thing brother. Can’t play apex on controller at all

@SDRaygon

10 ай бұрын

Because you most likely have not set it up right, Ive used both, but I dont feel the same satisfaction with making a good play on a controller as I do with a mouse knowing there is something that I dont do dirrectly that impacts my gameplay in a positive way, so i switched to use KB/Mouse in competetive games and controller for single player games or party games like pummel party

@vorabahs

10 ай бұрын

@@SDRaygon not sure. I tried so many sets and hours to understand why players use it. But my movement and aim so terrible on controller. Btw I never had console so all my life I played on pc

@adrianhathaway

10 ай бұрын

You would have felt the same the first time using a mouse and keyboard in a fps. You just need to put the hours in and get use to it. Except one input gives you crutch (aim assist)

@Mutterschwein

10 ай бұрын

Because the advantage is aim assist which is pretty much all you need if you get used to the clunkiness of the controller.

hang on, you can wipe while sitting???

mouse not light enough? LIFT MORE GET SWOLE lol

There are Apex pro’s?

first⁉️

We love aim assist

Everyone knows Apex sucks. Anyone who's anybody only plays Rust. Geez people.

Disliked just for using the word "controller"...lucky you do not life in my country or ELSE...

I would not take what apex players use seriously. all they really care about is comfort because in APEX aim matters less, you can cheese enemies with the multitude of abilites in the game and all the obstacles in the game, its a mix of fortnite and CS not to mention apex has aim assist. CS and Valorant on the other hand are aim focused, therefore quality and rhythm of clicks actually matters. which is why more pros are using ergo mice there, since an ergo mice can in some situations have a better click feeling, and allow your fingers to be positioned in a way where you can use them more effectively for clicks and rhythmic clicks. Personally i think DAV3 will become the greatest valorant mouse because not only is it a nice shape but the clicks are light and snappy and the side buttons are the best on any mouse. you then keybind abilities to side buttons.

pros are being sponsored by logitech for years so they hardly have any choices, thus going from them is actually rather pointless. One can use them as reference but thats about it. the GPX is surely are top tier mice, but dont let this percentage lead the path way.

@DiamondLobbyReviews

10 ай бұрын

We did a full sponsorship breakdown and analysis in the CSGO video. The summary is that sponsorship basically plays no part whatsoever

Ban MnK in ALGS! Add AA to trackball mice! 🖲