The LSD in the Integra will be the biggest difference maker on track, no question. Power’s useless if you can’t put it down. Loving this series!

@MrGrentch

2 жыл бұрын

+1000. IMHO the single biggest most noticeable difference between the JDM SiR I had and the Type R was the LSD in the latter. If I had a standard FWD Honda of that era and could only install one thing it would be an LSD. Actually I'd say that of any FWD of any era.

@peopleschampgarage7869

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGrentch have you experienced a clutch type LSD like OSGiken? It's like opening cheat mode. Makes the OEM LSD feel like trash.

@MrGrentch

2 жыл бұрын

@@peopleschampgarage7869 I knew a guy who had a clutch type so I have. Great on track or going illegally hard on the road. Allegedly your honour...😁 but I found it harsh for everyday use. The OEM is more liveable with. Well my R's my daily so I'd have a different angle on things I suppose.

@dancarlos1216

2 жыл бұрын

I used to run a 195whp B20 vtec Integra on circuits and it had the stock open diff, I got left coming out of the slower corners where I couldn’t keep momentum.

@jareddougherty8925

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGrentch yeah same here.. had a kaaz 1.5 way diff in my Integra. Less than a week later I swapped it for an oem type r helical and never looked back. It was straight up annoying for street use...

Man, no matter how many times I've watched your videos, all your projects, quick builds and series, I am still amazed at the lineup of cars you guys have put together ( and a bit jealous I admit LOL) The effort and dedication you put on EVRY single one of them is why IMO you're the very best in this "segment"

I did a full HARDRACE suspension on my ‘94 Integra GSR as well! Great suspension parts at a fair price! Love this build!

Both of the budgets are ballooning real fast boys

@Captaindan7141

2 жыл бұрын

Rule of Pi haha

@slickman5969

2 жыл бұрын

the way she goes

I have to say I really appreciate the pace at which this series is moving. I can’t wait to see the finished builds!👍🇨🇦

Got some PIC suspension on my ITR. Those are like a huge step up from mine. Very nice suspension. Also of course I built my car 9- 10 years ago.

I love the two very different strategies and that you will be sorting it out on track. I've missed your track segment like the one you guys did comparing the Type R & Veloster N.

watch out with those chassis there's a really high likeliness of the subframe tearing with the upgraded RSB. I remember they used to sell super thick subframe braces for that chassis

@jesselee4405

2 жыл бұрын

I went with a 22mm on my type s for fear of that

@ianm432

2 жыл бұрын

It's less of an issue if you're running a serious motorsports coilovers. The rsb has a lot less work to do.

@qleap99

Жыл бұрын

ASR is one of the major manufacturers that make a brace (and a bar that corresponds) but there are Asian suppliers that sell similar inexpensive braces now (and it's basically just a big slab of shaped metal).

the audience wants the budget cap lifted 😂 #teamnocap

@dln.sweeney

2 жыл бұрын

Hoping they'll revisit these cars later and go really stupid on them. The Integra at least, it deserves it.

@peopleschampgarage7869

2 жыл бұрын

@@dln.sweeney 💯

@BubbaGumpShrimpss

2 жыл бұрын

You can fund it 😬

@dln.sweeney

2 жыл бұрын

@@BubbaGumpShrimpss Maybe if I had the luxury of sponsors hah

Loved how many suspension goodies you put on the R! Talk about raiding the parts catalogue! This is going to be so sick when it’s done!🔥

Dave, if I may be so familiar, 🙂personally I'd 100% have left the rear trailing arm bushing original Honda(new). They are the main(and patented) part of Honda's passive rear setup which was one of the things that made these chassis(and the EK9) so good for a FWD car and why they have this reputation down to today. They were _specifically_ designed to be more compliant to allow movement from front to back. It's meant to move that much back and forth, so under braking for corners etc toe in is increased according to load which increases stability. Putting harder bushings in there takes away from that well thought out setup and has a negative effect on the handling(poly bushes completely ruin it IMHO). I'd happily swap out all the rest for Hardrace stuff(nice quality) but would leave that one original Honda. Maybe the slightly stiffer Spoon replacements which were engineered to work with this system, but even those I find more "twitchy" than OEM.

@GleepGlop2

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know much about suspension but I wonder what parts of the Type R suspension were different from a regular Integra. I wonder if some of these upgrades will hurt the suspension. That said, new is better than old and worn out.

@zeitgeist2720

2 жыл бұрын

Regardless it’s better than what was in there 🤷🏻‍♂️

@MrGrentch

2 жыл бұрын

@@GleepGlop2 There were quite a few differences. Thicker antiroll bars, heavier spring rates, different damper settings, stiffer bushings(some).

@MrGrentch

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeitgeist2720 Oh 100%, but for that particular bushing I'd go original Honda. Cheaper too.

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

Supposedly the replacement bushing that Honda sell now (52385-SR3-000 or 52385-S21-003) is a little bit stiffer than the original bushing. I dunno. 🤔

Speed Academy, imagine stripping the whole underside of a DC2-R, grinding it back to bare metal and then restoring it as well as all the suspension and brakes on axle stands. Yep that was me, and NEVER AGAIN 😡🤣🤣🤣 I'm absolutely loving these videos guys, they have fantastic content. Keep up the good work.

Run the DWS09 on my VW Tiguan - even though its an all season it significantly outclasses the suspension. It runs out of composure before the tire breaks a sweat. Love em'

Highly recommend a rear subframe brace. The subframes on these cars (more so the civics) are constructed of thin metal. I've seen swap bars tweak/bend the subframe, and some have ripped out completely during track use.

Everything looks fabulous but paint the dang calipers boys sheesh!

@michaellopez809

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. It couldn’t have taken that much time. Damn

Man, I need to copy and paste that shopping cart to mine (someday)! Great looking set up there and my first time seeing the Honed rear roll center correctors. Neat to see all the thoughtful, engineered mods going in versus solid heim joints everywhere and generic coilovers.

@y.b.-

2 жыл бұрын

Your project is also doing great progress Steve, pretty sure you will end up with an amazing car to have some fun on circuit & street.

@BRICKHOUSESPL

2 жыл бұрын

@@y.b.- Thank you! It's coming along (need to get back on it). More parts have arrived so I'm ready to tackle the interior and hopefully make a shaken attempt soon!

@Itr-tv7kt

2 жыл бұрын

you got a type r too ?? i got a 01

@BRICKHOUSESPL

2 жыл бұрын

@@Itr-tv7kt mine is a SIR-G. Not a Type R. I'm not that cool. Haha

@Itr-tv7kt

2 жыл бұрын

@@BRICKHOUSESPL cool enough 😁

First thing I heard was "Welcome to the haunted build off..." I was like, "did I miss something?" Haha

@Jorge_Magallon

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a good title if this was another BMW build.

@xozindustries7451

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought too 😂

Love to see the proper torquing under load for the suspension bushings.. Also nice to see some of the typical canadian car troubles like cutting the uca nut off the rear trailing arm etc... As a fellow canadian i was as scared as im sure you were with the big strong bar on the compensator arm bolt

Great video. Brings back memory's of my old track MG ZS 180, which basicly was an integra with a v6. These mods will help alot with laptimes.

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

These days the MG ZS is a compact SUV, lol, fun times (the same fate as the Mitsubishi Eclipse). Oh well. Those ZS 180s are cool cars -- they are extremely rare here in Australia! ☺ I hear the MG ZS 180 was the pick of the bunch compared to the MG ZR or MG ZT thanks to the double-wishbone suspension, better driving position & pedal layout (thanks Honda) etc? 😃

As a complete aside.... I always wondered why Honda went with the Civic EK9 Type R wheels for the North American market? They had 15 inch versions of the JDM 16's that they fitted everywhere else like Europe, Australia etc, but for some reason went the the EK9's for NA. I can understand the lack of Recaro etc as they were trying to get them under a certain pricepoint but the wheels seemed to be a styling choice for those markets. Focus groups or something? Then again what has also long fascinated me is how the different market versions differed in so many ways. The obvious are the JDM fronts which were only for them, but NA got no Recaros, IIRC they didn't get the Momo steering wheels or the titanium gear knob. They did get the centre console with the Alacantara lid and the rear seat base got a plastic divider. Oddly the JDM rear seat backs don't directly fit the EU or NA market cars. The Canadian market ones went weirder again with red seats in the back as well as the front. Europe got a rear foglight, the rest of the world didn't(I think). Europe also got a heavy wooden panel over the spare wheel, Japan got a very light, but very bendy plastic panel. I dunno about the NADM ones. The Swiss got 100 Yellow with a yellow Recaro interior special editions. Australia alone got gold brake calipers for no obvious reason. Some markets got a rear wiper, some didn't. Then there were all the various different rear light clusters. And Acura branding for the NADM. That's before we get to differences under the car like different sized catalytic converters, different manifolds(headers), compression ratios, valve covers, anti roll(sway) bars and so on. In Japan nearly everything was option delete. Never mind the four stud JDM only the OG 96 spec cars, or the JDM runout Type R-X with all the options ticked and retractable mirrors, 6 speaker stereo setup, keyless entry and a slightly different shade of faux carbon fibre interior bits(which ironically made it the heaviest R built). Kinda crazy for such a relatively small production car worldwide. No wonder Honda lost money on every car sold. 😄 That would never happen to nearly the same degree today.

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa, you know your stuff about ITRs! That was very interesting.

@MrGrentch

2 жыл бұрын

@@TassieLorenzo So yoou're basically calling me a nerdy weirdo about DC2 Type R's? 😄 Yeah, guilty as charged Tassie.

Had an Integra like this in college, had a lot of money into it. It was stolen out of my driveway, I still miss it to this day 13 years later.

Matco makes a Honda specific ball joint tool for an air hammer, some of the best money I’ve ever spent as a Honda tech.

I love these builds! Especially a “budget” build.

@PACKERMAN2077

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely I love to see budget bills and not the unrealistic expectations of professional shops with tons of gear and personnel and sponsored parts and cut to and cut to a Martha Stewart style and it's done bake syste. Even if it's a $50000 budget keep it realistic and keep it grounded so at least we know if we had 50K where our expectations lie. If this was a $5800 budget billed or a is build or a $30000 budget build, Show us everything we can do realistically to make the most out of that budget and that's what would be what would be satisfying.

I love the way the video was shot and edited this time. Super pleasant to watch

That steering rack gurgle was excellent 👍

The ITR will always be the FWD king. No matter what.

great choice on suspension components I run all of the hard race adj arms w/ hardened rubber catalog on my dc2 as well except w/ tein flex coilovers & ASR subframe brace / sway bar +wilwood dpha i didn't go with honed roll center as im not lowered much on a 16x8 +38 square set of advan rzii w/ 225/45 a0542 tires however i did go w/ honed's adjustable tie rod ends to correct any bump steer/toe curve w/ addition of swapping hardrace fuca for pci positive caster FUCA I'm sure you'll love the handling as mine has been the best handling Honda I've ever built those annex coilovers sound awesome similar to my dream coilovers by quantum except they go even further w/ custom valving & set bump stomp /body length in addition to spring rates

Something about suspension upgrades makes me so happy! Looking forward to the first drive w/mods!

First Pete now Dave's turn with the mod sequence and music on back. Love the wrenching noisier too. Great editing guys. And awesome content as always. Keep it up guys.

Yes had a jdm 98r with a 97r lsd trans in a 95 hb an loved it. Had blox cams and tb with the whole valve train also tein full coilovers. Only made 205hp on a s300. Loved that motor.. my next motor will be a h22a euroR or try a k24a2..good luck.

Living in the PNW, the DWS06's are phenomenal. I tried the DW's but with as much rain as we get, the DWS just outperforms.

Man. You guys working through those steering racks sounded like an alien autopsy.

I've really been enjoying the civic and integra videos! Look forward to seeing the show down. A friend has almost finished B swapping his EF sedan, plus watching you guys have got me really intrigued on old Hondas! They look real joyous and fun 😎

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the amount of rust, but old Civics/Integras/Preludes etc are pretty straight-forward cars for the most part! I'm not sure that older models like the first-gen City, AH Civic or CVCC have quite as much parts support though. 🤨 Whereas the EF, EG, EK stuff seems to be bread and butter for Honda tuners.

You guys were flying through those upgrades/fixes! I probably would've gotten like... one corner halfway off. xD I think this ITR is gonna be plenty quick.

The R rack has a tighter radius than the lesser models

@jspeedking

2 жыл бұрын

Old auto cross trick to swap Type R racks into EG’s

Possibly my favorite SA video yet. The simplicity, the ASMR building, the ITR….. YES.

Build your integras now! These things have hit an all time peak and are not coming down again…

Love it ! Only watched this 2x’s!!!! Thank you for this !

I love what you're doing with the DC2! Can't wait to see you rip some tec on it! 😎😎

Really loving these build offs

Awesome work guys

Running full hardrace suspension and ktuned k2 coilovers on my 97 k24a integra!

LOVE these Integras...such a good time for compact cars

Love this video so much. Thanks guys.

Fantastic episode. Good job keeping it simple.

Shoutout annex! got a set on my 04 wrx and love em

Proper down right parts great parts upgrade I wish I never sold my type R. Oh man Loving these videos. Great job 👏

You guys make quick work on swapping out all the suspension! those lifts are a game changer. I do miss seeing you guys struggle wrenching on the floor at your old shop! Speaking of old shop…what’s new with brother ken???

these series is so dope. got to love it

Love this build !!

Awesome video guys! Full Hard Race suspension is perfect although you should try & use Blox Competition or Skunk2 Pro Front Camber arms. Their hex keys are facing down which makes it easier to adjust the front camber on the wheel alignment machine =D

love this build

I could have watched several more hours of this, informative and entertaining.

Great build series and man I love Milwaukee Tool!

this is the coilover & suspension geometry setup I want! I have full spherical PCI parts though.

One of the best channels on YT, you guys should have way more followers.

Damper length seems to be a very contravercial topic, no one wants to talk about it as it would mean basically everyone with BC suspension, and other budget brands are setup totally wrong. Doing it properly changed my track car big time

Man when I’m done with my EG Si I’ll be around 10k into it talk about a money pit but it will be satisfying lol. I love the suspension parts.

oh man that integra type r is going to drive amazing with those upgrades !

Would have been interesting to see the old BJ at my old work. Used to work for the manufacturer of the BJ and sometimes they like to study old samples.

I used to just bend the knuckle for gaining camber. It raced well

You guys to good work i have been watching your channel for a long time now. The only thing missing from the garage is a sand blaster. Would give the builds that extra touch.

I can't wait to rip I to. Myiata to do pretty much what you guys just did. Good luck!

dang I can't wait to see this thing turn now

Digging these builds!

I hop between you guys and Mighty Car Mods. Loving the content, and the paired battles y'all bring to the channel! Oh, and the cars you build...lustful!

I dont even own a Honda but this video is very satisfying to watch.

🥰 the Teg! I think a rear undertray of some sort would be good, that rear bumper looks like a parachute 🪂

Brakes and suspension won’t be enough for the good old k series PT has!

DP *standing in front of the crustiest looking brake caliper I've ever seen* "We'll see what we can do about that valve cover to make it as pretty as the rest of the car" Surely a little elbow grease and some spare paint from around the shop won't blow the budget?

This video is like a dream for me. I’d love to do a full suspension overhaul on my 8th gen.

As always, Dave is doing it right

even though i'm able to do all the same things, watching older honda's get refreshed is very calming and satisfying

Can't wait to see this battle!

Love all the suspension bits, can't wait to see how it all comes together on the track. If you are selling that ITR bar, hit me up... I have a Honda LBJ specific tool, it's a c clamp style press but with specific cups. Think it's off Amazon... But the ol' hammer and socket works well if you're away from the shop.

I’m kinda surprised you didn’t put new brake lines on with all of the suspension upgrades.

Loving this series so much!! The R will molest that Civic. DP being the best driver can give PT a few seconds 😋

I've got continental eco 6's on my g1 insight, with some 14x5.5 CE28NS and I'm getting 85mpg on average

I love the videos of this series , but guys pay attention to details paint the calipers and inner disc center , and or the inner fenders would be covered on a protecting paint coat against rust

This series is 👌

What ever you do KEEP the stock airbox!!!!!!!!! It works the best, just do a filter..

@alouisschafer7212

2 жыл бұрын

If they change the airbox they would need to go all in and make a hood scoop or something crazy like that

@MrGrentch

2 жыл бұрын

+1 About the only one better is the original carbon Mugen seup. It gives a little more _provable_ power and makes a nice induction sound. The rest just add noise and heat soak.

@dln.sweeney

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGrentch CT/Comptech Iceboxes are good if you can find one, but you can also modify the piping on the stock unit and ditch the resonator.

@MrGrentch

2 жыл бұрын

@@dln.sweeney Very true Dylan. The Comptech were good. Sadly too many got the ally pipe with K&N filiter jammed on the end type, or the "whale penis" type, Both of which just added noise and heat soak. I remember on one of the Integra forums a guy who had made essentially the same kinda setup of the Mugen but using the OEM airbox and some plastic piping he got in the local hardware place. Worked great gave some extra power and looked 100% stock from above.

Please do a Cb/sm4 accord build. Absolutely underrated chassis to work on and would love to see the car get some coverage. Even the bulletproof f22 engines are overlooked

The Honda video always come through 👋👍🏽

5 stud DC2 sweet upgrades

Great build series! I know how you old school Honda boys operate lol. Also, you guys really need to do a JDM Legends with an Altezza vs IS300.

Man, that double wishbone suspension😍😍

Everything but the calipers and rear brakes looks great.

Always a good day when speed academy uploads

We are so excited for this showdown! We love golden era Hondas and cannot wait to see this battle play out. Keep up the great work guys =)

A totally fresh new suspension on an old car is my favorite type of video

First we press like then sub and tune see the video bcs the content is always good!! Greetings from Greece

Wow! Amazing suspension upgrades. I know you guys are doing a budget build however since you are preparing a track car, I'm surprised you didn't get the spoon sports rigid collars. I put them on my honda before suspension mods and man I felt a difference!

Awesome

Yayyy for Honda content!

B18c sleeved to 84.5 mm 2l vs 2l

Wild that these guys are in the GTA, would be a dream to wrench with these two on my own project

Enjoying this series! Im wondering why you didn’t elect to get subframe locks from spoon or blox

Love this Type-Raaaar

Best JDM Nugget ever ❤️ 🔰❤️🌶

I would have loved if you picked up a centrifugal blower kit for the type r. Maybe 3500USD. A fair chunk of budget, but good bottom end to make up for the K-B difference.