$350 PER CARD?! 💰 2022 Diamond Icons
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In today's video we try our luck again with a box of 2022 Diamond Icons. Will our luck continue?
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I'm glad you are able to show us these products. I'll never touch a box like this in my life lol
@iwantitall21
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My heart goes out to you if you’re never able to touch a good box , have you tried tinder ?
@Flores38956
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The prices of everything now is absolutely ridiculous. Started with Upper Deck and Panini carried on the tradition. Topps gets a pass as the majority of their products are priced fairly. I just watch box break videos at this point or buy singles.
@derekjohnson2558
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@@iwantitall21 lmao touche
@JohnDeBord
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Same
@PIP-zf9yb
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@@Flores38956topps products priced fairly I chuckled at that. They are hoke of the worst roi in the industry on some of there higher end stuff
3K loss on that box easily... Phil said he was mad.. I would've felt homicidal after that opening!
@captainsergeant
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It's like playing the lotto. Don't use money you need for bills!
@muddro420
Жыл бұрын
no one to be mad at but yourself.
@MrGrammarPolice
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3k to Phil is like $30 to us normies
@alexkoos7876
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He’s made over 80 million dollars in salary from baseball alone he will be ok
@MarspeedCars
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@@alexkoos7876 Yeah but the point is collecting these days is garbage with products like this. Even if really rich why would you wanna open this and get hosed. Pretty pathetic stuff
That’s the kind of box that would tell me to stop buying/collecting. Thanks Phil for taking the bullet for us.
I remember paying 1400-1600 for diamond icons boxes. Same quality at over double the price hurts my heart for the hobby.
I remember spending $6.00 (six) dollars on a full box, 36 packs of 1991 Score Baseball... I pulled a Mantle auto, sold it for $500 on the spot... Those were the good days... I don't give anyone a hard time for what they spend or what they pull... It's all a gamble...
@brentwalker5726
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Nice pull! I opened so much of that garbage and loved every second of it. Every time I saw one of those green cards in the pack I'd get excited. Never pulled an auto, though.
@fantasticvoyage262
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I pulled the unsigned card. And still treasure it today.
@randallrobertson3458
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$500 in 1991? By whom, a complete moron? Any of those /2500 Mantles could be had for like $50 in 1991. Hell one just sold in Feb of this year for $300.
Your edits and clips in between are the funniest in any videos I watch. The red clip…. “Whatever ya gotta tell yourself….” 😂
Thumbs up on video, down on box, and BIG thumbs up to the Editor!
Absolutely brutal. Maybe around 10% ROI which is awful *especially* for a "premium" product.
@paulnicholson5937
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cards are not an investment....
@snerdterguson
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They absolutely are. Now opening packs is a poor choice to build your investment. But cards themselves are obviously an investment.
@brentwalker5726
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@@snerdterguson cards are what you make them. They are absolutely NOT an investment to me. I'm a collector, so are millions of others. My collection might be worth something but I'd never stake any of my economic future on it. To me, calling my cards an "investment" takes the fun out and brings the grimeyness in. I'm not saying card investors are grimey, I think there's a lot of people who call themselves that and they are chum for the scammers.
@snerdterguson
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@@brentwalker5726 obviously not everyone uses them as an investment. I responded to someone definitively stating that they are NOT investments.
@Ozai75
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@@paulnicholson5937 You completely missed the point. If you change this much for cards, you shouldn't be filling the product with stuff no one cares about. Getting cuts etc is expensive, but getting the top tier players to sign does not cost nearly what they're charging. In reality all card boxes should give you 50% ROI, which means the total value should be about half what you paid for the box.
I'm driving a car that cost less than that box lol 😆
Good Show Phil as always...I will watch whatever you open man....from start to finish. Keep em rolling
These cards are "high end" but I'm not seeing the individual cards sell for anywhere close to what you'd need to get your money back. Usually if the box price keeps jacking up its because the boxes are still undervalued but I just don't see the value in these at all. Like a Julio auto /5 gets you about half your money back... how could a box ever pencil out? At least with a lot of insanely priced Panini products if you hit one of the top guys out of 5 you'll at least double your money back
@MrK623
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You probably have to hit one "monster" per box to break even. But it's a pyramid scheme. You can only sell to other "collectors", the cards really have zero intrinsic value. They are produced specifically to be collected. Claiming it is a high end product. But these autos are becoming more common and worth less and less like a decaying isotope until one day it all blows up.
Love all your videos!! Thank you so much
Damn, that was brutal. At least they're on-card autos. Thanks Phil!
Might barely have $500 worth of cards there. Absolutely brutal
@dustjacket1000
Жыл бұрын
$3500 for $500.
@Samuel-xs2yv
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$500 is being pretty generous, too lmao
@snerdterguson
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That's what I came up with. And that's assuming the relic actually sells for $60 and factoring in about $150 for the Chipper (I think I'm being very generous) before the chipper, I was thinking he had about the cost of one card in value.
Topps taking the money and running 🏃♂️ 🤑🤯
Brutal rip Phil, thanks for the upload!
BRUTAL! Also, whoever does your editing is awesome. I'll buy the Arenado if you sell any off the break.
Been watching this channel for a fat minute and i legitimately didn't know you were phil hughes! lol thats awesome bro
So glad ur back 😊
Rough…but gotta get those boxes outta the way to get to the good ones! Have a great day Phil & thanks for sharing.
Love your content and thanks for taking that one for the tons of us who would love to have a box like that but just cant afford it
This was a brutal hit. Definitely took one for the team. If anyone at Topps/Fanatics watching this give him something this was a tragedy.
My favorite super high end product is topps dynasty but these are nice too.
I fully understand and appreciate your honesty. You took it on the chin. You will bounce back.
Wow, sorry for the lackluster box. Thanks for the box review.
I appreciate the honesty in your pulls and for showing comps. It keeps me from pulling the trigger myself on these high-end products. 🙈
Yes more Phil’s pulls!
The cards up to and including the Barry Larkin brought you to around $350. If this is a $3500 box for 10 cards..... So total, with quick rounded out math, equalled $588. Sorry man I feel for ya. Glad I don't have the money to spend on these types of boxes. Cool cards though
Holly molly! $300 worth of cards. Thanks Phil. Always enjoy your vids.
Ouch. I love the Will Clark, but ouch man. Thank you for showing us this stuff.
Phil am from Canada I just finally realized who you were pitching against my Blue Jays lol newly back to the hobby. This is actually crazy. PS I’ll buy that Joey Votto of you, my favourite player IPC him.
@codymac4474
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@HIT UP ON tele_gram Real phils_pulls Jesus! I will definitely hit you up. I’m at work at this moment. I’m so excited. I even messaged my wife I went back and watched old videos man. It brings back some memories absolutely incredible. I will message you back later on brother. Thank you so much you made my week..❤️
Got me on the spin-a-roony , thought an epic card was incoming!
Man, have to like and comment... sorry for your loss! I could hear the pain in your voice! Better luck next rip
WOW... Less than $600 in all... Ouch!!!!!!! They could at least but sometimes that would get you half back your money. That one was painful
My ass even hurts after this Topps fail.
@Novastar6
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I could feel the pain in his voice
You weren't spoiled last time... it's just $3.5k for maybe $500 worth of cards. I'd be calling up the CEO of Topps lmao. That shouldn't happen, not at that price point. There should be a minimum assessed value for each box. Even if its $1k
Excellent cards my friend 💯, you have great luck. Diamond Cuts rule 💯.
Brutal. Only when people stop paying these prices will things change? $3500 gets you alot of graded hof rc’s. Unreal.
Love this channel, brother! Keep up the good work!!!
Absolutely love that Arenado. As a STL fan Id be happy with that box, of course a Goldy would be a killer addition.
I love the chipper 😂
Beautiful box and cards.
phil, you're the icon of my diamond.
Thanks for sharing.
There’s Phil!!!!!
Better luck next break I really enjoy seeing new baseball cards
I have a few of your cards. Love your channel.
I really like that you went back to an old camera or something. Looks way better than when everything was blown out and to bright to watch.
Phil has me watching his openings and I don’t even collect sports cards …Sorry for the disappointing box😢 Content is still fire🔥🔥
@khure711
Жыл бұрын
Same, just entertaining seeing his reactions
Wow, that was a painful experience. Tough box Phil.
25 years from now, kids will be like, 350$ a card, I wish I could go back and get that.
@JP-rg1yj
Жыл бұрын
(X) to doubt on that one. I doubt these are going to be iconic cards at all in 25 years
@jmoneystone1363
Жыл бұрын
Crypto cards
That box must have been like a kick to the groin.
I love the chipper card
Thanks
That Will Clark 🔥
That was brutal
I'm born and raised in Michigan. Other than Jeter your only the other Yankee I liked. You the Man Phil's Pulls 👊
@coreyredman1984
Жыл бұрын
Could you please send me the DM link one more time. Thank you 👊
I don't know how you stayed so calm.
Wow...tough box, sometimes it happens
I legit was going to buy this product this year (I tried last year but by the time I tried to pull the trigger the resale market was awful) but after seeing this I’m a hard pass. I get not every box gets you close to whole but this isn’t even over $1k. Thanks for being the guinea pig…
when it says "the relic is not from any specific game, event or season," is it still a game used bat from that player? or is it a team issued bat from the player, not game used? some please clarify for me! Thanks!
@MrK623
Жыл бұрын
The patches and bats used to be more authenticated. Now it is usually a gray area unless specified.
@DanielleBaum
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@@MrK623 that was at the beginning of the century. all the card companies got trashed for that and are a lot more careful now. even mlb keeps track of what relic comes from what game. if it doesn't say then it's likely just from the player. maybe the bat was bad but it's from the player.
Wow I love all your videos I could never afford this. That was extremely rough that was a loss of I'm guessing 2500 sorry man
Nice Chipper !
Bad box man, but glad to see you back
Holy moly. Nice cards for sure but 3500 would be over 4000 up here. Thanks for the break
Pulled the plug on Chipper - I hate so much about the things that you choose to be 😑
Not a very Chipper box 😢. Even though Chipper is my guy
For that price point every box should have a 1/1. Holy Crap, I feel bad for you Phil. That box is horrendous!
That was brutal!😢
People forget this product is very limited, nothing numbered over 25 so there's only so many cards out there so the price per box is going to be up there. I've seen multiple times more than 2 1/1s per box come out but of course some boxes are gonna be like this. I'd only buy this if I had money to burn.
2021 Topps: Send Phil loaded boxes 2023 Fanatics: We can't send him loaded boxes, so make sure there are no case hits in those.
I’d run my head into a walk with that box. Appreciate the reminder to never spend the money on a big box
Phil's pulls Phil's pulls Phil's pulls!!!!!!!!!!!
Great lesson for a young collector...spend 3500 and get maybe 600 in value. Where has the hobby went? We didn't ever in a million years get ripped off like this in the 90s when there was 3 card shops in every city.
This was like a mortal kombat finishing move: brutality.
That box was brutal
Is there a guarantee if you ordered a case?
Nice names but no big big names, all I know is I need that Votto!!
Let’s go
@DT_123
Жыл бұрын
Tough box. But, always love your videos. Glad you’re back doing these. Hopefully you keep them coming
That was a rough one bud.
Joey Votto's patch auto /25 best hit... Go Canada, Eh.
And that’s why I buy singles. Thanks for the rip.
I like the KB card.
So 3500$ for not even 1 card that worth 350$ it is bad... really bad! At least could have a 1/1 of Chipper Jones... Seriously that is the kind of product that kill the market for more than 10 years now.
Do you hear that? its the Execs at Topps laughing and toasting single malt. Hurry up Mike down that thing, Tee time is at 130.
Brutal
Topps thanks you for your $3k donation.
Brutal. I'd be mad too. Obviously you never expect to recoup even 75% of the value no matter how high end the product but this is downright insulting.
Are you putting the Eloy up on eBay?
Influencer box!😂
OUCH!
Brutal....
And of course, nothing on the backs.. 10 “half” cards for $3500, way to go Topps, good thing they made it so there’s no competition for baseball cards
That was rough
You should visit topps headquarters and ask which brick wall did you build with that 3.5k. Wow
2 of those boxes or a Satchel Paige RC 🤔
Annddd that’s why I buy singles only lol !!! Damnntttt 😢
These boxes are like trying to hit scratch offs!......
Hey Phil, as a former player your input would be great here. Guys like Bryant and Arenado etc ... are good players but their autos aren't worth much. It's even worse because they sign seemingly everything. Should Topps take the initiative and not ask them? As a player would you be offended by that? Should these guys be a little more aware and reel themselves in? Should we as fans stop looking at things through the perspective of how much money it's worth? All of the above? I'd love to see a video where you and some other players or collectors discuss this. A $400 box being a dud is bad enough but for $3500 you'd be lucky to sell those cards for 10% of that. Throwing a trout auto in every box would dilute his auto values so like, how do we fix this if we can fix it at all?
@JP-rg1yj
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Not Phil or a former player, but to answer your question we'd need to know a bit more about what you mean by "fix"? Is it fixed if box prices come back down to more sane levels ie pre pandemic? Because to do that either supply has to get quite a bit higher or demand has to fall off a cliff. I doubt we'll ever see the magic of early 2020 again, where box prices (from manufacturers) were still low but individual cards were still (insanely) high. If individual card prices stay high, box prices will too. The disaster Fanatics needs to avoid is oversupplying when demand shrinks which TBH seems like the direction we're headed.
@MattKeller
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@@JP-rg1yj Yeah I have zero faith in Topps to do anything they seem rather clueless. Can't even do quality control on their base product let alone 1/1 high end cards being off-center or dented etc... I wonder how players feel because to us a Kris Bryant autograph is a bummer but to Kris Bryant this is the dudes life, ya know? Maybe the dude loves signing, maybe he gets offended that people value his cards so low. I'd love to hear how they feel about these sorts of things especially nowadays when they've got such young kids signing for draft sets and USA baseball and all those kinda things.
@JP-rg1yj
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@@MattKeller I mean unless Kris is into the hobby himself IDK how bummed he's really going to be... like he makes millions playing, he makes money from Topps for signing... But I think I understand what you mean. Like, is there any way to try and level the playing field between the top stars and the lower level or mid-level players? Not sure there ever could be tbh. Just the nature of economics.
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