329PD 44 Magnum - The Ultimate Mountain Gun
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The Smith & Wesson 329 PD is the most painful revolver I've ever had the "pleasure" of shooting.
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Looks about as fun to shoot as a 2lb. 12ga. shotgun! Ouch!
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
LOL No kidding!
@beakfish7319
Жыл бұрын
Its super nice with 44spl! And if a bear is charging me im not going to be too worried about what the gun will do to my hand. Lol ive fired a full box of 50 rounds of 240 44mag rounds and my hand was pretty sore afterward but it is doable. Its the greatest backpacking/hiking gun ever!
@PsychoticBovine
Жыл бұрын
My brother has a .44 mag derringer. Weighs about as much as an lcp.
@hardtack8776
Жыл бұрын
Ouch 😳👀, Good shooting Buffalo! 👍👌😎😊
@PsychoticBovine
Жыл бұрын
@Peter Angles It's an American Derringer. Built very well.
I got a flinch just watching you shoot that cannon man.
For those of you starting out with revolvers, any rubber grip that covers the steel back strap is a giant improvement. Getting whacked in the web of your hand by those frame back straps while using anything bigger than 357 Mag will hurt enough to create a flinch.
Once was asked to shoot a S&W Mountain Revolver, which was an alloy frame 44 Mag. Owner could not hit anything with it and thought the sights might be out. I took 50 meter pigs with it, passed it back and told him it was perfect. Did not want him to see the tears in my eyes or guess the fire in my arms all the way into my shoulders. Truly, a travesty of a revolver.
I put Hogue tamer grips on the 329PD I had and it was still a beast to shoot with full power 44 magnum ammo. I am happy to say that particular gun no longer resides in my collection. My brother in law want a light weight trail gun for bear and other types of threat protection. I sold my 329PD to him. He's happy and so am I. I replaced the 329PD with a 629 Deluxe 3" that is still a handful with full power 44 magnum ammo but much more pleasant to shoot than the 329PD. I would never call anyone a whimp after shooting that gun. I would tell anyone that say your a whimp they need to shoot that gun to have the experience. The 329PD is not a gun that I would just hand to anyone to shoot.
@fyisense9312
Жыл бұрын
I have a stainless 629 custom shop 2.625" bbl .44 mag that with the rosewood grips and full house loads will hurt you. The soft grips made a huge difference.
@rogerpemberton79
Жыл бұрын
@@fyisense9312 I have a 629 Classic 5", 69 Combat Magnum 4.25", and 69 Combat Magnum 2.75" besides the 629 Deluxe 3". I have Hogue tamer grips for all of them. I also have VZ G10 grips for the 69 Combat Magnum 2.75 that I use for carrying but I carry 44 Spl ammo not 44 magnum.
Buffalo, I think I speak for most of us…thanks for taking one for the team!
I almost bought a 329 PD some years ago. My friend carried it while hunting in Alaska. He only fired it one time and then offered it to me. Seems it just about ruined his hand. I wish now that I would have purchased it as he offered it for a great price. I'm looking for one now for a EDC piece. Nice review. I just had to sub to your channel after watching you shoot the beast.
Those grips are nice but ouch! Beautiful revolver. I see a man with bear paws had the good sense to put on a glove that says it all. Great video as usual.
Thanks for sacrificing yourself to make the video! I really was impressed by you mentioning that a good crimp is needed on the bullets! With factory Magtech ammo in my 329 PD it was pulling out the bullets from the case.. I now crimp factory ammo as well as my reloads on my 329PD. Best regards!
@iankelly3479
5 ай бұрын
I have had the same issue with my Charter Arms Bull Dog Pug "new production." The revolver is so light that the bullets creep out of the cases if they are not tightly crimped. And then jam the action of the gun. But they can be pressed back into the cylinder. In an emergency to facilitate function.
Good to see you again! Seems like 44 has come up in popularity lately.
@john-paulsilke893
Жыл бұрын
I just wish cowboy or even Special ammo was more cheaply available. Unfortunately you have to roll your own to keep the prices down.
Hey, what a cool coincidence, I was at the range today shooting my 329PD. Yeah it's very painful to fire with full power 44 magnum loads. It definitely is a save your life gun. My 329PD, her name is Annie because she is atomic. The grips are very beautiful but they are very hard to shoot. I've replaced the grips with the pacmeyer decelerators and it is more comfortable to shoot. I do conceal carry Annie and load it up with Buffalo bore hardcast wadcutter 44 specials. Another load that I like is the Buffalo bore anti personnel 44 special heavy hollow points.
👍👍great video Buffalo. You’re definitely not a whimp, can’t imagine the recoil.
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
I first saw a 329PD on a table at a gun show. I grabbed it and lifted it from the table, and my hand shot up into the air with it! I was not expecting a large, .44 mag revolver to be that light. I had to have one. Now I do have one, and it's my trail gun for defense against bears and mountain lions. (In fact, I carried it today on a five and a half mile hike.) When I shoot it, I'm good for twelve, maybe eighteen rounds before I've had enough. It's VERY unpleasant to shoot. But I figure I'm not going to get into a gunfight with a bear or puma, so I'm willing to deal with the punishment for the level of defensive power it gives me for so little carry weight. Mine came with both the wood and rubberized plastic grips, as seen in the video. The former are very pretty, but aren't suitable for actual shooting (as Buffalo promptly discovered). The latter promptly broke under the stress of the recoil. It now wears Pachmayr rubber grips. and they're just perfect for a gun like this.
@ammoiscurrency5706
7 ай бұрын
Do you practice with soft loaded 44 special? I've heard guys swap a 629 steel cylinder into this gun and have been very happy with it.
Thanks for taking the punishment to your shooting hand to make this interesting, entertaining, informative video, Buff! 👍
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thank you !!
Recoil reminded me of my Charter Arms Bulldog .44 Special I had in the early '70s. Not a magnum, but the gun was like the weight of a .38 Special snub nose. It hurt. Traded it favor of a Ruger Security Six.
I've had a 329PD now for about 13 years and use it mostly as a hiking/hunting revolver. I use 44 spcls in it except for hunting. I have taken 3 deer with it over the years all at 50 yds or less. Not a pleasant revolver to shoot at all with 44 mag, but surprisingly accurate. I've not injured my hand(s) firing this beast, but sure has felt close to it with 240 gr full power 44 mag. I've always kept the wood grips on the gun. Equally as painful is the S&W 340PD 357 mag revolver which I also carry when feather weight full power is required. There is really no reason to carry these scandium/titanium revolvers other than they are so light, you just forget carrying them. As an outdoorsman's revolver, there is nothing better. As a range gun, better off having someone beat your hands with a baseball bat. The end result will be the same. Also forgot to mention the action internals are slightly different than other S&W revolvers. There are some additional parts which lock the cylinder release in place so the cylinder does not unlock with heavy loads. The PD series of revolver are truly outstanding examples of revolver engineering.
You may want to try a Pachmayr Decelerator grips on that gun. Even with the stock rubber grips it can hurt quite a bit but the Decelerator really made a difference. Pricey but worth it.
@davegrenier1160
Жыл бұрын
Second that. See my comment made 3 days after yours.
I got the 340pd on the way, 11.2 ounce .357 magnum, that might give this thing a run for it's money on pain, probably a bit different pain but pain none the less.
That looks amazing…even better than the 629.
Looks like a great Bear protection for hiking in Bear country . Or a fun plinker for 44 special. Thank you 👍
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
It sure is!
Very nice revolver, you did a great job shooting it.
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thank you !
Man, I think I better leave that alone, as you said, I been working for a long time to reduce flinchl Thanks for the video !
I love the revolver but the weight would make me shoot 44 spc. or not full house 44 mag
@stevenunyabidness
Жыл бұрын
perceived recoil aside, that thing would shake itself to pieces long before my 69 or 629 lose time.
@raleighthomas3079
Жыл бұрын
Not as a personal slam, but I’m pretty sure your hands would give out before that S&W got loose. It probably would take a lot more full house/Buffalo Bore loads than I would care to put through it.
@stevenunyabidness
Жыл бұрын
@@raleighthomas3079 as much as i love my s&w wheelguns, i've worked on enough 3 series to wonder why people buy them. if you like em, all the power to ya but steel always wins in terms of toughness regardless of whomever is judging it.
That injury you took to the webbing of your hand is hysterical only because I suffered the exact same experience with a 629PC 2.6" that I used to own. Had the wood secret service grips with no place for the last finger to rest. The 1st time I shot it, I was bleeding in the webbing by the 4th shot. Great video man; it totally took me back! 😂
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! My hand hurt for about 2 weeks after this! LOL
I have always wanted one of those. Thanks for the video.
Buffalo this reminds me of a Scottish proverb “Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me!”. And no one going to call you a whimp, sir! Give us an update if the owner took his gun back or just said “That’s why I had you shoot it first … no no really I don’t need it back anytime soon, keep it as long as you want, you shoot so well don’t you want one for your collection, I know you can pick one up since it’s left such and impression on you!”
Mine is quad ported by Mag-Na-Port. Changed out the titanium cylinder for a fluted stainless steel 629 cylinder. Hogue 500 S&W rubber recoil absorbing grip to aid recoil impulse mitigation. Much cosmetic changes but only those changes above are to reduce recoil impulse. Love mine.
@tonyromano6220
Жыл бұрын
I bet!
That is a 44 special revolver that just has the ability to shoot magnum rounds. Thanks for the video.
I just picked up a Taurus snubby 357. Kicks like a mule but so much fun to fire....
You're a brave man. My 4" 629 ceases to be fun shooting after about 20 rounds. Don't think I would want to try a lighter revolver. Jess
What are the odds, I've spent the last 2 weeks drooling over this model!
Bless your heart Brother. Thank you for suffering for the cause. I am not sure we should thank the fella that sent you this gun. He is probably trying to find out if you were able to handle this brute. Well you did but not without cost. Lol. I had the 3" 629 for quite some time. I felt it was a bit excessive with recoil. I put the Pachmayr diamond grip on it and my 6" 629 and it has proven to be the best recoil taming grip I have found. I have had around a dozen 44 magnum revolvers (S&W and Ruger) with barrel lengths from 3" to 10 5/8". I would give them serious consideration. Well done as always.
When I saw the gloves I knew it was going to be brutal. Hurt just watching. Gloves do make a difference especially shooting several magnum loads. Appreciate what you do to make great videos. 🙏 👍💥
Wow. Ouch. That’s a carry much and shoot seldom gun. We used to say that about the Charter Arms .44 Special. I have a .44 Mountain Gun (from the first run, the one they called Mountain Revolver, no writing on the barrel), and I thought that was a killer light .44 when I shot some 320 grain “bear loads.” Pachmayr Grippers help, but not enough. A friend carries a 329PD in a shoulder rig, He admits he doesn’t shoot it often, and it’s much more tolerable with .44 Special loads. But one heck of a niche gun. Great video!👍
I used to Elk hunt in Colorado in an area with a lot of bears. It was also at high altitude so any extra weight seemed twice as bad. I bought one of these revolvers thinking it would be the perfect high altitude bear repellent. However after firing some full boogie 44 Magnum loads I decided it wouldn’t work out as I had hoped. I would have to carry two guns! The 44 Magnum from Hades for me and another gun to give my hunting companion so he could hold it on me and force me to shoot the bear!
@6Sally5
Жыл бұрын
😂
DAMN! Shooting those clays out of the air with that thing was really impressive!
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thank you !
I started to flinch while you were dry firing it! Great video!
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Hey Buffalo, It has been a while and is nice to check in and see you out on the range. As always, great video and keep on keeping on.
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
I know your pain. I have the Taurus equivalent, the Ultra Light Magnum. It's listed as 28oz. If you've ever used an aluminum bat to swing for the fences only to hit a utility pole during sub-zero temps, repeatedly, that's what your hand feels like after a few cylinders fired from this gun. On the plus side though, it is very light and comfortable while in the woods. It is very accurate. I've taken 3 deer with mine over the years.
I have a theory that the rubber grip would damage the skin on your thumb worse than the smooth wood grip because it will stick to the skin as the gun tries to move. Gloves might help a little bit but also it helps if you rotate your hand round the grip slightly to move that joint of your thumb left out of line of the recoil of the grip.
Nice gun and very nice shooting. Thank you for taking the time for making this.😊
I commented before that I would pass on this gun but I recently bought a 360 PD and now I need it's big brother so it's back on the list.
Buffalo. Good video as always. Great shooting. Nice gun but a hand killer. I have a little light weight Charter Arms .357, 5-rounds of standard .357 ammo is enough for one setting. Can't imagine doing that with stout .44 Mag rounds and a lightweight gun. Thanks for sharing and take care.
GREAT VIDEO BUFFALO ... !!!!! LOVE THAT GUN ...!!!!!! IT WILL TELL WHO THE BOYS ARE FOR SURE ... !!!!!!!!! DOUBLE G. HERE .. GARY..!!!!!
I love the .44 magnum! I have 2 model 29's, one is with 4" barrel, the other is 6 1/2" barrel. there are more powerful revolvers out there but the .44 magnum will get the job done and will cleanly kill anything that needs shooting. The good thing about the .44 mag is that there is a lot of bullet weights available and it can be handloaded to your liking. My favorite load is 12gr of Unique pushing a 200gr JHP bullet. This load is plenty strong for Deer and Hogs and the recoil is tolerable.
Another great video as usual!!! You are one of my favorites , thank you for your videos.
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your support!! Thank you for watching !
Great review. I've been shooting .44 mag all my life and I've never seen anything like this! Wow! A guy could still practice with specials or light loads. When I was living in Colorado I did a lot of hiking, camping bowhunting. Much of the time I carried a 629 classic for the reasons mentioned. It was legal to carry a handgun while bowhunting, yes. This truly would have been a welcome addition. But wow, that was brutal on your hand. To continue shooting after being brutalized is ample proof you are not a wuss....😉😆😉 Great video brother. Thanks for your work. God bless all here.
Great video and superb shooting. And here I thought my .44mag S&W Model 69 with 2.75" barrel had a brutal recoil...This one looks even more radical. (I have not fired anything over 250gr in my 69)
Thank you for the honest review. I appreciate your hard work.
Nice revolver and some great shooting to Buffalo. My hands are hurting just watching you getting slammed by the 44Mag1 Thanks Slim.
I had mine magna ported - made it very easy to shoot once done.
I am a huge fan of 357 and 44 mag handguns and am very partial to S&W, owning 6 44mags, all 4" barrels or less and 3 357 mags, again with 4" barrels or less. I shoot 44spl powered loads all the way up to underwood and Buffalo bore stuff. I never minded recoil and am accurate and consistent with all of them. I was pumped to purchase the PD and when I held it for the first time I was in love with the look, finish and feel. I went home, jammed some 240gr Underwood thumpers in it, fired all 6, put it back in the box and sold it back to the gun store the next day. To say the recoil this firearm has is brutal is a huge understatement. It is probably 100 times more punishing and uncomfortable to fire with full power loads than a 500 S&W snub nose. This is a ridiculous weapon. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Couple of my buddies love it in a "burn my hand with fire to see the skin bubble" kind of way. More power to them. I see no purpose in a firearm that is a bit more convenient in weight but absolute punishing to shoot.
Just grabbed some merch…glad you finally got some, Buffalo! Already sold out of some things good for you.
You should try the Hogue Tamer grips for the .500 Magnums. When I had my Scandium framed guns, it worked tremedously to dampen recoil. In the immortal words of a former President, "I feel your pain..."
I had to load down for mine. Full power ammo was making the cylinder turn and jam up. .44 spl ammo works well, but is very hard to find and expensive, so I just load for mine using reduced charges, and that makes it more fun to shoot. I don't mind, because I load most of my .44 ammo anyway, as factory rounds are ridiculously expensive. But the light weight and big punch of this gun makes it particularly nice for the trail, and I would not sell it or trade it.
You are the MAN(not that man, the MAN😂) for continuing to shoot that beast!! Tube or no tube!! 👍My hat is forever off 👍
Guess I will NEVER figure out why manufactures put crappy grips on hard recoiling guns! Very nice revolver!!! Love the 44 mag, I only have 4.
Almost bought one of these...then I got to my senses and picked up a 629 Deluxe 6.5". Love the look of this and if you're carrying it, beneficial to shed all that weight, but man I can only imagine the handful it would be compared to a stainless model. They sure are gorgeous!
Yeeeaahhh. My chest holster distributes the weight of my Redhawk 4.2 inch just fine lol, I had to get a pachmayr that covers the backstrap and its almost double the weight of this. Thanks for taking it for the team
Two-legged predators are good with 44 Special loads and 44 magnum 265 grain Dangerous Game loads for four legged attacks.
Thanks for the review and important information.
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Buffalo I don’t know why you’re complaining about the recoil. As stout of a country boy as you are, just strap it to your lead sled and carry it over your shoulder handy when you’re picking blueberries in Grizzly Alley up in Montana. A good friend and bowyer has same hand cannon. He said it’s not easy to get back on target so ya better make that 1st shot count on a griz. Dave’s switched to Glock 10mm. You did real well shooting that beast of a handgun. Your hand was going to get bad injury had you kept shooting.
I just bought one without doing any prior research because it was on sale for $250. Looks like I made a good purchase.
Very good Buffalo, you have tamed the beast despite that recoil
That is a gorgeous gun! Best set of lines and size good enough to own just to look at.
Thanks for taking all that punishment Buffalo. Great looking gun, and I would buy it, but it would be a 44sp. You make awesome videos
That's one of those guns that enthusiastic beginner buys shoots one time and either trades it back or sells it. Either way I don't see them going back to the range for another beating.
Every time you pull the trigger you can hear Nathan Explosion in the distance. "#%@^ing brutal."
“…the most painful gun that I have ever shot.” 😂 Sounds like a great candidate for .44 Spl! I have the Model 360PD in .357 Mag, built with the same materials. With the stock hard rubber grips, it literally tears the skin off my palm when shooting.357 loads. The cushioned Crimson Trace laser grips mitigate that problem, but it’s still a beast to shoot. I pretty must restrict its diet to .38 Spl. these days. It is, however, a total joy to carry - it’s incredibly light.
20 years ago I was new to Alaska, was told I needed a .44 mag or a 454 for hiking. I got a 329PD, hated it! Loved shooting 44 specials for practice, but was not happy with someone whacking my hand with a 2x4 shooting the mag loads. The way I saw it, first round may go where I want, 2nd goes high and higher from there on til on my butt with a bear on me. I carry bear spray. I loaned this gun to a few people and none liked it, some said it was OK ... they were lying! I carried that gun in the garden with those same plastic capped snake rounds to kill squirrels and birds in the garden. I could only load one round as after shooting one or 2, the plastic caps would unseat and empty shot of others on the ground. FYI, what Buffalo says about hand loading and unseating your crimp is true. There's even a warning in the manual to try ammo and do not use any ammo that shows the bullets are unseated. This gun has a finite life span ... it will fall apart if shot too much. Amazing for it's weight, though. I'm not a big guy, but was happy to sell that gun for 150 bones more than I paid for it. G20 with 220gr BB for the win ... better yet, carry a shotgun! OH! Forgot. Some say using the rubber grip off a S&W 500 is the best way to tame that kick.
You're definitely one of the best shooters I've seen👍
First things first. We love our Buffalo show!!!! Just don't know why but, I believe I would have to pass on the beating that beautiful .44 would hand out. Can't believe I said that but it is what it is. Glad to see the merch. Definitely got to get my hands on some of that. Thanks for doing what you do Buffalo!! Awesome work on your channel brother. It is far more than what I expected so many years ago. BUFFALO ROCKS
Light weight makes recoil a special kind of unpleasant.
Smith and Wesson makes a very padded rubber grip for their X-frame revolvers. These same grips fit the 329PD. A good shooting glove really helps. I originally had a Caldwell glove but a day at the range split the glove. Have an all leather glove now which is more durable. Fiocchi 240gr jsp ammunition also helps. Do all three of these things and the 329PD isn't so bad. Still stout but not so painful. Else, it feels just like setting off a firecracker in your hand.
You’re a good shot man. I held one of these today at the local gun store. I really liked it. Just can’t afford it at the moment 😂
Im a pistol guy. But truly the ONLY revolver that I ever wanted is the S&W 329PD. What a gorgeous, sexy thing 😍
Thanks, everytime I think l what one l just watch a video and come back to my senses, thanks again.
Last thing you want is an air-weight 44 magnum. Would be great 44 special though
You still are one of the best shots no the best shot I've ever seen on one of these videos.
What you said about heavy loads Jumping crimp,is exactly right. That gun makes for a excellent weapon in grizzly country, as a back up when hunting elk/moose.
I Have a 329PD and yes. it is a little best on the recoil. snappy!!!
Good demo to an already revered and iconic firearm : don't be surprised if they're in high demand.
I picked up the S&W 69. It’s the five shot L frame. You can one handed mag dump it. (Cylinder dump). I only put one cylinders worth through it as We had to get home. My best friend did too. We talked about it the next day. Our palms were a little tender to say the least!
I’d like to see you do a “Limitation’s” video with the short barreled version!
Great video & great shooting, too!
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I like it but I'll stick with the 357 good video
Looks like a great gun. I'm glad you're shooting it and not me. I don't mind admitting to being a wimp when it comes to recoil. Thanks for the video
@buffalosoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
lol, no problem
Thanks for the warning...
Good video. Thanks, and glad I saw it. I carry a Kimber 2" .357 (18.5 oz) as a woods gun. I carry a mid range 158/hard cast and it's OK to shoot with that but at magnum velocities, it's no picnic at all. If I decide that the bears are buying kevlar, I might want more power but I'll definitely pass on this beast. Something 'mild' like a 10mm maybe!
My 6-inch 629-1 punishes my middle finger knuckle on my strong hand enough. (Underneath and slightly behind the trigger guard). Ironically, I have only shot Magnum loads through it. Guess I love the little bit of pain. My Ruger Super Blackhawk does the same thing.
Great shooting!!
Thank you
Very nice looking revolver. That revolver sure does have a punch on recoil.
The boys down at S&W are a bunch of evil geniuses creating this thing. I have a M69 that's a hand full at 37 oz, and this thing is 12 oz lighter. Dont worry, its on my list
I remember when this came out I had to have one. Owning a 629 saved me. Even a 4" 629 puts the sting in the hand with real 44 mag loads. Those give me yet more appreciation for 357. As far as 454 goes I'd rather have a Casull than a Chevrolet. Might go broke feeding either.
I have a scandium frame S&W Night Guard 2" in 44Mag - My woods gun, nice chest rig. It is brutal to shoot.
I use a glove on my string hand when practicing with full-power loads - otherwise the grip digs into my skin. My bitey/scratchy load is a .370" meplat 300gr WFN @1000fps. I've had mine for 13years and have over 4000 rounds through it.
Looks like something Scott from Kentucky Ballistics would plink with… Us people with sensory receptors in our hands, we need something a little softer lol.
I have one as well and its the only handgun I have that makes you bleed every time you shoot it bare handed. My scars are in the exact same place. Have not tried the other grips yet. My friend and I ushered in some of the TC contenders in 45-70 and 375 JDJ, this revolver is worse then those.
The PD in 329 PD stands for Permanently Disabled.
@Steve-yo4ld
Жыл бұрын
Awesome!😂