303 British Ammunition

My take on .303 Caliber British ammunition I have used, which I like best and why.

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  • @mickmoriarty5442
    @mickmoriarty54426 жыл бұрын

    I've been hunting with soft points in SMLEs for 50 years and never noticed a problem. Lotssssssssssssssssssss of dead things out there as a result. If you can get the PPU 174Gn FMJs or HPs (I can't remember what style bullet they have) you will find they shoot to the sight settings on Lee Enfields. Unfortunately, gunshops don't seem to want to stock both types.

  • @MilsurpGarage
    @MilsurpGarage2 жыл бұрын

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  • @randalleasley1111

    @randalleasley1111

    2 жыл бұрын

    You might want to check on the PPU they've been using 308 bullets the southern bellator actually using normal 303 bullets right now so just giving you the heads up

  • @MilsurpGarage
    @MilsurpGarage6 жыл бұрын

    Many of these comments seem to be from people who are misinterpreting what I am saying. I am not saying soft points won’t work. I’m not saying it will cause your rifle to not kill a deer. They function! My point is simply that I have noticed Enfields frequently clip a piece off of the soft point tip and my testing showed that this does affect accuracy. Not reliability but accuracy. FMJ was unaffected.

  • @waynewalton8328

    @waynewalton8328

    3 жыл бұрын

    i have been hunting with my 1916 for50 years. never had any problems. with any type. from canadian mil sup. to 212 grain CIL round nose.. you use corrosive you clean your gun. right now with my 104 year old a with my nikon scope 180 gr sp my first 5 rounds touch at 400 yards. as for fmj you cant hunt with it in canada.

  • @armandocassius829

    @armandocassius829

    3 жыл бұрын

    you prolly dont care but if you guys are bored like me atm then you can stream all the new series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my gf recently xD

  • @garyh1449

    @garyh1449

    10 күн бұрын

    Well full metal jacketed bullets aren't for hunting a deer. I have a No.4 MK 2 ahd it doesn't peel lead from soft point bullets.

  • @therichie9916
    @therichie99168 жыл бұрын

    I have four Enfield No.4 Mk1 rifles. I shoot the PPU soft points all the time. They all have scopes. I shoot them out to 300 yards and have no problem busting clay pigeons on the berm. I wouldn't say that's an adverse effect on accuracy. I have taken a few deer out to 350 yards with a couple of these rifles. Right behind the shoulder within a couple inches of point of aim. So I can't buy into the "don't use the soft points" thing.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    8 жыл бұрын

    I buy into field testing, period. Biting off the nose affected my grouping. Test some FMJ yourself and see if there is no difference in your groups at 300 yards. If not, then I don't buy into it for you either.

  • @therichie9916

    @therichie9916

    6 жыл бұрын

    Still shooting these rifles out to 300-350 yards out of four Enfield No.4 rifles....several hundred rounds ( around 900) since I made my comment, still hitting very accurately. PPU, S&B and Remington. Maybe you have a messed up rifle or two. I don't know.

  • @dennispfeifer7788
    @dennispfeifer77888 жыл бұрын

    Very good analysis!!! I agree. PPU .303 appears to be the ticket. I first shot the .303 Enfield in 1968. It hits hard with little recoil and will drop'em in their tracks. They shutter and fall like being hit by a ton of bricks.

  • @hanzenfranzen406
    @hanzenfranzen4068 жыл бұрын

    Never had issues feeding soft points in my No4 Mk1* even used the PPU ammo

  • @geezerp1982

    @geezerp1982

    6 жыл бұрын

    soft points mean you can use the lee enfield for home defence

  • @nzdochunts34

    @nzdochunts34

    6 жыл бұрын

    Check out some Hunting in New Zealand on my page. Latest video is a Red Stag taken with a Lee Enfield 303. shot with privi partisan 150gr

  • @gubourn

    @gubourn

    4 жыл бұрын

    you just have to tune the mag a bit

  • @pollyokeeffe4861
    @pollyokeeffe48619 жыл бұрын

    You're terrific ..... Great video !!

  • @Rundu1987
    @Rundu19874 жыл бұрын

    The most popular, and accurate .303 bullet is made by Hornady and is the 150 gr .312 soft point. Because its .312 it works in shot-out barrels better than the .311 stuff. Thousands of antelope are killed every year in South Africa with this bullet. 43.5 grns of S335 gives 2750 fps out of my no4 mk2. Close to a .308 win with the same weight bullet.

  • @jackscott2594
    @jackscott25947 жыл бұрын

    come to new Zealand and you will find that there is no problem using any of the ammunition mentioned in any Lee Enfield rifle obviously you have never done your home work properly the rifles were designed to work with all types off ammunition and the deer cullers proved that from the 1920s right through till 1984 and people still use them for hunting today .with out hang ups damaged bullet tips etc and accurate out to 300 plus yards

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    7 жыл бұрын

    jack scott I hate homework

  • @devatwell334

    @devatwell334

    4 жыл бұрын

    I harvested deer with my .303 My 2019 9point buck got a softpoint from a Lee Enfield at about 140yards. Just sayin!!!! But I want some of those ppu fmj rounds

  • @TheBeaker59
    @TheBeaker598 жыл бұрын

    I run a 210gr round nose cast lead projectile in mine behind a moderate load never had a feed problem and use all sorts of brass from S & B, ppu, and old CAC from the 50's never seen issues with inaccuracy from tip wear. Rarely have cases fail even after dozens of reloads and only costs a few bucks for a day at the range or out hunting :)Love my No4 mk1*Longbranch in original military as issued condition. Just like my Dad and Uncles used in WW2

  • @MilsurpGarage
    @MilsurpGarage Жыл бұрын

    Just bought a Remington Model 34 .22 bolt action rifle and in doing research for an upcoming video there was a lot of talk about this rifles unique lifter system for loading 22 cartridges. Apparently, this rifle is known for being extremely accurate and there is even an NRA target version with quite a reputation for accuracy. The design, which is relevant in our discussion here, is unique because the lifter positions and introduces the cartridge into the receiver without the nose of the bullet touching anything, and this is its huge claim to fame. Designed by C. C. Loomis, extensive research and testing has been done with this rifle, proving the legitimacy of his design. For all those who think a tiny nick in the nose of a bullet from a feed ramp or sharp breech opening doesn’t matter, maybe they should check out all of his research. It’s out there. To all those non-engineers, making unenlightened comments below for years, I accept your apology.

  • @MrGsteele
    @MrGsteele8 жыл бұрын

    The shoulder doesn't matter; 250 microseconds after the firing pin hits the primer, chamber/barrel pressure is at about 50,000 psi, and the brass is conformal to the chamber wall - so where it started out makes no difference. The only reason it's smaller than the chamber in the first place is so that you can close the bolt even if the chamber is dirty. Also, the presence of corrosive primers, etc. is not relevant if you clean the gun immediately following a range session, which you should do whether you fired corrosive or non-corrosive ammo. It's only relevant in a wartime-like scenario, where the barrel and action interior could stay dirty for weeks in a range of temperatures and humidity. The primer salts left behind are hygroscopic - they will take up moisture from the air, which provides the transport fluid for the galvanic corrosion ions that will rust the metal. Just wash it out and corrosive ammo is fine.

  • @Schulzffw

    @Schulzffw

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Problem of the brass is about reusing it and in that case it matters a lot, how much stress the brass has taken. Especially at a point like the neck.

  • @MrGsteele

    @MrGsteele

    5 жыл бұрын

    I understand. However, from a single firing, the brass doesn't really get work hardened. Furthermore, if you neck resize only (which you would do anyway, if you only have one gun in the caliber), all subsequent cold working of the shoulder is minimized. Compare a fired round to one out of the box to get an estimate of just how much the shoulder is blown out. Also, if you anneal the necks every 4 or 5 reloads, the cold working is relieved, and the brass will last much longer. Use a Tempilac marker to get the temperature right, restrict the area of heating to the neck and shoulder, and you're good to go. Finally, don't forget that most wildcat cartridge cases are fireformed; that is, the parent case is put in the wildcat chamber and fired, so the case is conformal with the chamber. In some cases, that dramatically stretches the brass - once - blowing out the shoulder, with no ill effects if you neck resize and anneal thereafter. And wildcats are just about always loaded much hotter than the parent round.

  • @johngallagher3732

    @johngallagher3732

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t try and educate this donkey

  • @2009Berghof
    @2009Berghof4 жыл бұрын

    I bought a box of, I believe, Finish .303 ammo dated 1938. It was marked 7.7mm and I could not actually read it but it sure looked like .303 to me. It all fired. This was about six months ago.

  • @australianmade2659
    @australianmade26596 жыл бұрын

    PPU is better brass for reloading. It’s my preferred 303 round in oz.

  • @christopherrhoads5918

    @christopherrhoads5918

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pardon me for the lack of vocabulary but do they use Brendan primers?

  • @australianmade2659

    @australianmade2659

    4 жыл бұрын

    Christopher Rhoads these days boxer primers are typical. Very old brass might be Berdan. But PPU is boxer

  • @christopherrhoads5918

    @christopherrhoads5918

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@australianmade2659 thank you!

  • @lewisward4359
    @lewisward43593 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. The old Millsurp ammunition is also very corrosive and you must clean the rifles in a prescribed manner. PPU seems to be accurate enough, but they are FMJ and everything I've read basically says the bullet doesn't expand. I've used the Remington Core-Lokt 150grain and that is also accurate., but still FMJ. Now that we can use rifles in this county I would use the Remington Core-Lokt .303 British 180-Grain.

  • @MumblesMarbleMouth
    @MumblesMarbleMouth9 жыл бұрын

    The Czech (Czechoslovakia doesn't exist anymore) Sellior & Bellot, (Sell-ee-or Bell-lot) neck is actually formed correctly to military spec. That PPU is not. Modern day Federal and Winchester .303 is the same way. Winchester is mil spec, Federal is not. The mil spec neck is just meant so if the chamber has dirt in it, the casing will still chamber and fire. No modern day .303 British ammo can't be used in a Lee Enfield. The ammunition is all designed being used in the millions of surplus Lee Enfields that are now being used as hunting rifles. There is no point for manufactures to not design it to be used in a Lee Enfield. The neck design doesn't mater and isn't critical. The casing head spaces off the rim and not the shoulders. Lee Enfields chambers and bores are very inconsistent. If you want the best results for your Lee Enfield, cast lead bullets are the only way to go due to the various bores with a reduced load. The most common is 172gr cast lead bullets with 13gr (+/- half a grain) of Red Dot shotgun powder. Another common target load is 32cal 100gr cast lead bullets with 7grs of Red Dot shotgun powder. I reload with modern Canadian military brass since I get it for free although you only get about 2 reloads out of it before you scrap it. You can't complain about free brass though. As a note that the Czech brass is correct, The Canadian military brass is exactly the same as it.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    9 жыл бұрын

    I have some old .303 Milsurp ammo and the cases are identical to the PPU cases so I always thought PPU had the dimensions more correct. Regardless, PPU ammo functions flawlessly in the three rifles I have chambered in .303 and is the least expensive choice.

  • @MumblesMarbleMouth

    @MumblesMarbleMouth

    9 жыл бұрын

    There is two ways to get cheap .303 British in Canada. Its either join the Canadian Rangers and you get 100 rounds per year for free or, live near a Rangers base so you can stockpile loads of .303 brass. My loads cost me 33 cents a shot. I cast my bullets from wheel balancing weights. I go to my local scrap yard, its free to get in, and I just take all the wheel weights and melt them down in to bullets.

  • @geezerp1982

    @geezerp1982

    6 жыл бұрын

    not anymore

  • @carll.freemanjr.9867
    @carll.freemanjr.98676 жыл бұрын

    Never had an issue with lead tip or "soft point" ammo in my mk 1, i deer hunt with it.

  • @jthebk3864
    @jthebk38646 жыл бұрын

    Went shooting my enfield used PPU and it keyholed every single round swapped to Remington and I had one more random key hole but then every other round shot perfect however it was $30 for 20 rounds so idk about using that in the future but I did stock up just in case

  • @07thunderhawk
    @07thunderhawk4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, PPU is amazing!

  • @calebroach1281
    @calebroach12818 жыл бұрын

    I have a yugo 24/47 mauser in 8 mm and i have been primarily using ppu sp and i see what you mean but i get excellent accuracy despite what you are saying about the deformation on the tip of the bullet, and a bit of brass and lead build up after about 300 rounds or so.

  • @mickmoriarty7780
    @mickmoriarty77805 жыл бұрын

    PPU works fine in my five or so Enfields, my mates Ross and lots of Enfields at the range. One young guy just gave me 100 Sellior and Belliotts to reload, I went and looked and no splits.

  • @GenScinmore
    @GenScinmore8 жыл бұрын

    Greek HXP is probably the only good milsurp ammo for .303. (so ive heard) its supposed to be "the best." great vid.

  • @RussellHoughton
    @RussellHoughton8 жыл бұрын

    303 head spaces off the rim that's why you find different storts of shoulders. Some like to have a tight fit some like to go with a lose fit so it will feed better in any condition. Regardless after its fired it all looks the same and can be reloaded all you want. I use IVI brass and neck size with a 7.62x54r fl die and let it set the shoulder back about .005 to insure feeding.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    8 жыл бұрын

    Great info. Thanks. Gonna start reloading some day

  • @GenScinmore

    @GenScinmore

    8 жыл бұрын

    +vettelover2009 I found Herters to be really good too. I use both :)

  • @GenScinmore

    @GenScinmore

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** ty I didn't know that. makes sense why their quality is so high.

  • @Genevasuggestions1
    @Genevasuggestions18 жыл бұрын

    I've noticed the soft points don't feed well at all in my no.4 I just load one at a time. Ammo is ammo right now, I can't really afford to be picky when I can't find any .303 near me anywhere.

  • @mackmyles9034
    @mackmyles90345 жыл бұрын

    Does the grain matter for the enfield like the M1 Garand where it has to have 150g to not damage the firearm, also how is 303 federal ammo for the enfield?

  • @WastelandArmorer

    @WastelandArmorer

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, you can use whatever you want.

  • @henkboshoff8869
    @henkboshoff88693 жыл бұрын

    I have hunted more than 400 antelope with Sellier and Bellot ammo with zero problems

  • @mStiltner89
    @mStiltner894 жыл бұрын

    My grandfather killed 30+ deer with his No 1 Mk 3, 1942 Lithgow which is sporterized. Using 180 gr. Remington SP. The barreling is great and still shoots great. Still hits its mark to this day.

  • @arthur.887
    @arthur.8877 жыл бұрын

    It gets bald slightly yes. Extremely when the same bullet is loaded multiple times. But its not like its a 1000m cartridge anyways, so i see no problem with using soft points.

  • @ianmccutcheon6319

    @ianmccutcheon6319

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes....one slide up the ramp I do not believe is a problem for a soft point. When hunting and on watch I usually chamber a round by hand to avoid the ramp. If a second shot is required then it will be of course pushed up the ramp by the bolt from the mag and into the chamber. I agree, I would not recommend several trips up the ramp with the same cartridge as they do broom up.

  • @geraldswain3259
    @geraldswain32597 жыл бұрын

    Great video but cannot agree on the soft point issue,my nephew is a full time professional deer culler mostly in Scotland and shoots many 100drds of Deer on the hills with those cartridges many in the 350yrd range with an old sporterised Enfield and never had an issue !.

  • @therichie9916
    @therichie99168 жыл бұрын

    I mentioned no offense. I've been shooting fmj and SP in my rifles for near 30 years. I just haven't had the problem you describe.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    8 жыл бұрын

    No offense taken at all, just meant that testing FMJ against the SP would be necessary for any determination of which is more accurate. If the SP fits your needs regardless then by all means, stick with it.

  • @therichie9916

    @therichie9916

    8 жыл бұрын

    Very true brother, very true. I must also add that I polish my feed ramps pretty good. That may be the difference.

  • @cameronmaclean9623
    @cameronmaclean96237 жыл бұрын

    Is there a lot of 303. WWII dated ammo available?

  • @redfoot69
    @redfoot695 жыл бұрын

    soft point good deer ammo i used ppu in enfield no 4 mk1 no issues 1 inch moa out to 100 yards

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you test to see if your groups improved using FMJ ammo?

  • @tonyb7748
    @tonyb77482 жыл бұрын

    11 years running the S&B mixed with various surplus. Mine operates fine. This is a top .01% er video

  • @MudCrabMagistrate
    @MudCrabMagistrate7 жыл бұрын

    Has anyone used the steel cased 303 made by wolf?

  • @notrophyhuntersallowed4231
    @notrophyhuntersallowed42316 жыл бұрын

    Is this round good for ferret control

  • @the11kaj
    @the11kaj9 жыл бұрын

    That is just what a proper .303 neck/shoulder looks like. After you fire it the first time, the case shoulders will be fireformed to the chamber on your rifle. Most reloaders do not full length resize, but use a collet neck sizing die, which does not mess with the shoulder. The biggest issue for the Lee Enfield is headspacing. The .303 British is rimmed cartridge. It is not headspaced from the shoulder of the chamber, but from the face of the breech. If your headspacing is too loose, the fix is to put in a longer bolt head ..... IF you can find one. As for the feeding problems with soft point, by VERY small increments bend the forward feed lips up on your magazine with pliers. But be careful not to go too much. There is a tipping point. Up here in Canada myriads of deer, moose, elk and bear have been taken with Lee Enfields shooting SP bullets that we can buy in pretty much any hardware store.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the input. I don't reload (yet) but I do understand what you are saying. Still prefer the PPU though.

  • @the11kaj

    @the11kaj

    9 жыл бұрын

    Ok have never had any, but everybody says that the PPU brass is really good for reloading. It is apparently a bit thicker. The biggest problem with .303 British is short case life. They were designed to shoot reliably in muddy conditions. Not to be reloaded.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    9 жыл бұрын

    Glad it's fairly cheap and easily available. I save the brass in case things change!

  • @WastelandArmorer
    @WastelandArmorer3 жыл бұрын

    Mine havnt has issues with softpoints.

  • @michaellewis5624
    @michaellewis56244 жыл бұрын

    I have 3 #1 mk3's, probably more than a dozen more over the years, killed MANY deer, hogs, and other critters with soft point ammo without problems. I have loaded and unloaded thousands of soft point ammo and never noticed any deformation of the points. JMHO

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Many of these comments seem to be from people who are misinterpreting what I am saying. I am not saying soft points won’t work. I’m not saying it will cause your rifle to not kill a deer. They function! My point is simply that I have noticed Enfields frequently clip a piece off of the soft point tip and my testing showed that this does affect accuracy. Not reliability but accuracy. FMJ was unaffected. Next time your at the range, cycle some through and take a look........never said they wouldnt kill animals, just said they deform the soft points.

  • @franciscosiles
    @franciscosiles8 жыл бұрын

    what's your take on .303 from Winchester or Remington?

  • @scottyroadrunner2441

    @scottyroadrunner2441

    8 жыл бұрын

    Expensive

  • @Kysushanz

    @Kysushanz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Winchester is crap brass. Remington isn't too bad. PPU is best Brass for .303 [or some old Canuk DIZ WWII brass Boxer Primed and then reload.

  • @jamesm1755
    @jamesm17553 жыл бұрын

    I've only had problems with wolf in my 303

  • @haledmondson2756
    @haledmondson27565 жыл бұрын

    The 303 started out with a 220grain round nose bullet. After world war 2, thousands of Lees were and are used in Canada for hunting with no problems....Hal

  • @robinj.9329
    @robinj.93293 ай бұрын

    Guess that's why most all my friends who fire .303 British cartridge RELOAD !😮 Thus You pick your bullets, primers, powders and brass. I even have a selection of "Die sets" from different manufacturers! Just to try them out and stay with the "Set" that gives me the best results. Cheers 🍻

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly. Thanks for tuning in!

  • @mwmcbroom
    @mwmcbroom4 жыл бұрын

    Most commercial .303 ammo is soft point. Hard to find anything else. Also, I've fired a lot of surplus. 303 and I've never encountered the problems you mention. I've also reloaded a lot of it without problems.

  • @rodneyhardee2527
    @rodneyhardee25277 жыл бұрын

    good shit!!

  • @jimbienkowski3883
    @jimbienkowski38839 жыл бұрын

    I get pierced primers with the S&B. The PPU Full Metal Jacket BT-- never an issue

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    9 жыл бұрын

    That brass formed without a proper neck affects headspacing so pierced primers don't surprise me.

  • @CANADIANEHent

    @CANADIANEHent

    9 жыл бұрын

    JIM bienkowski WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PIERCE A PRIMER :O

  • @XLesky

    @XLesky

    8 жыл бұрын

    +james saunders Hope to hell your rifle has good gas handling properties. That is another thing the Mauser has over other milsurp rifles (except the Arisakas), gas flows away from the shooter's eye in case of a rupture. .303 British headspaces on the rim - that S&B brass may have an excessively thick rim or may be undersized for your rifle, causing it to move back under firing and impale the primer.

  • @jimbienkowski7857

    @jimbienkowski7857

    8 жыл бұрын

    +XLesky nothing unusual happens when I pierce a primer with S&B. I don't even know till I eject the case and look. PPU runs fine and my hand loads with PPU brass with S&B primers never a primer problem. I bought a couple boxes of the steel case Wolf Military Classic to see how they do

  • @CANADIANEHent

    @CANADIANEHent

    8 жыл бұрын

    i popped every primer with the s&b using the no 5 lee enfield!!!! you werent kidding....i should have listned

  • @milboltnut
    @milboltnut7 жыл бұрын

    the enfeilds have excessive headspace, a lot more than the average military rifle. That's why you get either, case head separation, or cases have to be full length sized a lot more frequently than normal. Reliable feeding was a concern, and besides, they only shot the round once, so who cares about inconsistent shoulders. I tried to load RN bullets and they jammed on the feed ramp. The Lee's weren't designed for SP bullets, they were designed for FMJ. Who cares about the shoulder... fire a round and look at the shoulder. There's nothing left of it due to the headspace.

  • @beingsneaky
    @beingsneaky3 жыл бұрын

    So its 2020 what your pick now? with full copper bullets?

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    I still stick with FMJ for anything .303.

  • @joehoesch1850
    @joehoesch18508 жыл бұрын

    I don't shoot milsurp ammo fearing corrosive powder although they could be made useable by pulling the bullet and reloading them with modern powder and primersthereby salvaging case and bullet. I compared modern PPU necks to necks of some 1943 milsurp ammo that I have and they're nearly identical. I've reloaded lots of PPU .303 British cases with SP bullets only because FMJ bullets are generally not stocked where I buy my reloading supplies. You're correct about the lead point being slightly damaged when chambering SPs from the magazine. Small lead divots get taken out near the point. Whether this missing piece of lead is sufficient to affect accuracy can be determined. I will load each SP directly into the receiver instead of loading them through the magazine and will report any improvement in accuracy.

  • @RussellHoughton

    @RussellHoughton

    8 жыл бұрын

    It's only the primers that are corrosive and all you need to do is clean your rifle after shooting it with hot water. Put a few letters down the barrel and it will heat it up and dry it's self then old it as normal.

  • @Swaggerlot
    @Swaggerlot8 жыл бұрын

    I shot 1955 UK government stock in 1972, had to see to 500-600 Yards to get onto a 200 Yard target. Misfires were around 25%.

  • @mustafahassan2666

    @mustafahassan2666

    5 жыл бұрын

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  • @badgerstate3451
    @badgerstate34516 жыл бұрын

    You are trying to tell people that commercial hunting ammo won't work reliably in an Enfield? Seriously? You are either uninformed or purposely lying. I have put a thousand rounds of hunting soft point ammo through my No4 Mk1(T) with no issues whatsoever. I've taken a dozen deer with it out to 330 yards.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Badger State Have you ever tested groupings at the range of both SP and FMJ ammo? I’m not saying it doesn’t work at all, I’m not saying it doesn’t kill deer. It WORKS in the gun dude. I am simply saying that the design of an Enfield frequently clips of a chunk of the soft point lead tip which affects accuracy. I’ve TESTED this. If you haven’t done testing on both types of ammo like I have then how would you know if it affects accuracy for you? My book, reliability is directly related to accuracy, especially when hunting. Bottom line though, relax, use whatever ammo you like. No worries. I only offer info on my findings. Go with your findings.

  • @VIDgamesLover

    @VIDgamesLover

    6 жыл бұрын

    Milsurp Garage if thats the case why cant you just single load? Works fine for a hunting application.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gabe Newell Single loading is not the way the action is made to be used and will cause the extractor to have to “snap” over every rim eventually causing a premature failure of the extractor.

  • @VIDgamesLover

    @VIDgamesLover

    6 жыл бұрын

    Milsurp Garage now that you mention it i remember that. Is it possible to manually place the rim under the extractor? Maybe its a but too outlandish. I guess whenever i take the lee hunting i will just close the action very gently.

  • @richardtravers8772
    @richardtravers87724 жыл бұрын

    So many KZread "Experts " who have no idea what they are talking about.

  • @paulgdunsford7469
    @paulgdunsford74692 жыл бұрын

    Headspace issues omg what is it with American with headspace, and got to say some ranges here only let you use SP

  • @auMr.Pocket
    @auMr.Pocket2 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nicest comment ever posted to this video.....you are very welcome!

  • @frankgon4
    @frankgon48 жыл бұрын

    I figured out the soft point tip the hard way. First off, it will not feed easily. Wish I had seen the video before buying ammo. Good info.

  • @burnemoutdoors7479
    @burnemoutdoors74797 жыл бұрын

    .303 British is necked in .311" which is very hard to find bullets for so lellier and bellot necked it down to .308" which is much easier to find

  • @expo2000000
    @expo20000009 жыл бұрын

    How much is the 303 per round?... is the 7.62x54r comparable in price and ballistics?

  • @CANADIANEHent

    @CANADIANEHent

    9 жыл бұрын

    FUCK NO, BALLISTICALLY ITS CLOSE ENOUGH, BUT PRICE,,,,HELL NO, 54R AND 7.62X39 ARE LIKE .22LR PRICES RIGHT NOW, MOSIN AND SKS AMMO IS DISGUSTINGLY CHEAP HERE IN CANADA, LIKE $3.75 FOR 20 ROUNDS, AND ITS $25-$30 HERE FOR .303, HOPE THAT HELPS

  • @mikec8086

    @mikec8086

    9 жыл бұрын

    james saunders Cheaper than dirt has .303 for under 7.62x54r prices right now. Some is nonreloadable though and alot is hxp. Very nice ammo and fires great

  • @CANADIANEHent

    @CANADIANEHent

    9 жыл бұрын

    noice!!!

  • @towarzyszbeagle6866
    @towarzyszbeagle68664 жыл бұрын

    I've shot 303's for over a decade both in competition and hunting. I've never, ever found any soft point to be marred by chambering it. I think you need to polish your feed ramp! Also, the difference in accuracy you are noticing is much more likely to be about the fact that the FMJ's are a flat based spitzer which is what the MKVII military ammunition was, whilst the soft points are boat tails. Enfields have notoriously loose bores and for this reason flat based rounds that offer more surface area for the grooves to bite into than boat tails often shoot better out of them. This is exacerbated even more if you have one with a two groove barrel (a lot of Long Branch and Savage No.4's have these). I've seen a two groove barrelled No.4 that would keyhole BT projectiles but group flat base FMJ like a champ.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Some useful and interesting info. Thanks.

  • @jaefaralmawswi7473
    @jaefaralmawswi74732 жыл бұрын

    اني محتاج عتاد او ضخيره لبندقية تحمل عتاد 303 انكليزيه

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    5 ай бұрын

    Try Numrich or ebay.

  • @beingsneaky
    @beingsneaky3 жыл бұрын

    FMJ is illegal to use as hunting rounds.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    oh.....that would matter......

  • @laurenttherrienjr1080
    @laurenttherrienjr10802 жыл бұрын

    cant hunt with fmj in canada so i have remington corelokt classic stuff i have some federal sp and some hornady custom150g have no problemes with at all

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cycle some of the rounds through the gun carefully in a safe spot and then check the tips to see if there’s a little piece cut off the tip. I’d be curious to see what the results are.

  • @laurenttherrienjr1080

    @laurenttherrienjr1080

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh ya for sure for sure with at 100% on that ! but those it make a big difference so much when i hunt i have 3 in the mag when walking in the woods but in my stand i try to load one at a time manualy

  • @laurenttherrienjr1080

    @laurenttherrienjr1080

    2 жыл бұрын

    this way i dont use up the bullet before i shoot it my cousin has a300 win mag that every time he loads one it dings up the tip and it even makes a ding in the case 🤔 best exemple of my i load one at a time make sure nothing of the sort happens

  • @laurenttherrienjr1080

    @laurenttherrienjr1080

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MilsurpGarage good point 🤟🏻

  • @xoxbride
    @xoxbride8 жыл бұрын

    Full metal jacket is no good for hunting

  • @fred5477

    @fred5477

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depends on what you are hunting

  • @briankerr4512
    @briankerr45124 жыл бұрын

    I don't like anything S+B except some 45 ACP bullets which seem ok

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    S&B .45 would not fit properly in my SIG p220 mags......weird.

  • @briankerr4512

    @briankerr4512

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MilsurpGarage I was talking just the bullets for reloading . :)

  • @troyadam7612
    @troyadam76125 жыл бұрын

    I run ppu soft point boat tails in my Enfield all the time, fuck all problems with accuracy.

  • @frankcarvell8935
    @frankcarvell89359 жыл бұрын

    I must disagree. The Greek surplus .303 British I bought in November of '14 was as spot-on and accurate as any of today's commercial loads that I've fired. In over 400 rounds I've had NO hang fires or failures and reloaded with ease at the end of the day. Indeed, you may have run across some stored in a rusty Lone Ranger lunch box that had been stored in a leaky garage for years but that most certainly was not the case with mine. To a round, mine were as bright and shiny as they day they were first loaded. When I do use the commercial flavors I tend toward the 174 grain PPU.

  • @CANADIANEHent

    @CANADIANEHent

    9 жыл бұрын

    Frank Carvell I DID, ONLY ABOUT 5 OF EM DIDNT FIRE THOUGH, AND THEY WERE BLAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!! RUST, THIS WASNT RUST, TWAS LIKE, A BIOMECHANICAL MOLD FROM ANOTHER PLANET, BUT MOST THE ROUNDS FIRED

  • @geezerp1982
    @geezerp19826 жыл бұрын

    are you pissed ?

  • @merc4hire308
    @merc4hire3083 ай бұрын

    Ok bro! 😂 you gotta stop! Again, I’m laughing so dam hard-I can’t breathe. You are just too dam funny! I’m going to send you my emergency room bill because I can’t stop laughing. 😂

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    2 ай бұрын

    The reactions to this video are so all over the place…..comments galore. It was so long ago I don’t even remember what I said but it must have been full of some pretty opinionated stuff.

  • @mikehenrybell2398
    @mikehenrybell23983 жыл бұрын

    No lead tip deformed from the ppu that I used. Maybe your magazine sucks

  • @CANADIANEHent
    @CANADIANEHent9 жыл бұрын

    I FIND THE S&B LOOKS MORE LIKE THE ORIGINAL CASE THAN THE PPU :/ M'I TRIPPIN?

  • @deador9192
    @deador91926 жыл бұрын

    Case separation? Not really. If that little expnasion leads to case separation, fireforming would never have been attempted. Shotters routinely fireform cases that expands far more abruptly. No need for so much worries.

  • @nzdochunts34
    @nzdochunts346 жыл бұрын

    Check out some Hunting in New Zealand on my page. Latest video is a Red Stag taken with a Lee Enfield 303.

  • @tonystark-ey5gj
    @tonystark-ey5gj2 жыл бұрын

    ive taken 6 deer with ppu sp bt 303 so i dont even know what your talking about, i do agree with old mil surp crap.

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. The bullets will still kill deer. They are not rendered harmless if you nick the soft point, it just may affect accuracy. That’s what I said in the video. It could affect grouping at 200 yards, let’s say. Not cause the bullets to be any less lethal at 200 yards.

  • @scottbuckley6578
    @scottbuckley65784 жыл бұрын

    I find Remington makes great 303 ammo fmj

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, can’t go wrong with Remington....the FMJ is better for it in my opinion.

  • @SuperJuiceman11
    @SuperJuiceman117 жыл бұрын

    how bout converting your Enfield to 7.62x54r??, join us on the mosin side. 20 cent surplus ammo and .30 cent new commercial! I think the conversion is easier than you might think, both shoot exactly a .311 claibr bullet, not a .308 like other 7.62 / .30 cal rounds. The 7.62x54r is just a little wider on the rim, just need to bore your reciever out slightly 1/1000 th of an inch. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mmmYm6OOc8jTiqg.html

  • @boarzwid1002
    @boarzwid1002 Жыл бұрын

    .303 head spaces on the rim not the neck,

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought I mentioned that. Regardless, the neck shouldn’t have to fire form to the chamber by a tremendous amount. That’s not good.

  • @usmc7527
    @usmc75277 жыл бұрын

    the 1903 Springfield 30-06 is a better gun enfields have lose stocks and don't have a claw action

  • @paulsmith6837
    @paulsmith68373 жыл бұрын

    Enfields are a British rifle God save the Queen

  • @SteaminPile
    @SteaminPile7 жыл бұрын

    New Enfield owner, had no idea, almost made a mistake. Thanks

  • @badgerstate3451

    @badgerstate3451

    6 жыл бұрын

    This guy is a Buffoon. I've put hundreds of boxes of commercial soft-points through my Enfield. Never had any issues at all.

  • @dblaandy
    @dblaandy8 жыл бұрын

    anything you have there will shoot out of my gun ! here we have to use soft points round or sharp dont matter full metal jackets i gues if ya just want shooters there fine you buy old amo expecy hang fires but never had any with my 303 and i have shot many difret milsurp ammo !

  • @amerbachaamerbacha1019
    @amerbachaamerbacha1019 Жыл бұрын

    🙋🇵🇰💯👍🇵🇰

  • @MilsurpGarage

    @MilsurpGarage

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see a positive reply to this video for a change

  • @grizzlycountry1030
    @grizzlycountry10307 жыл бұрын

    This is pure bullshit especially if you're hunting.