Love the way Biskit just goes to sleep even with the belt on!🤣👍

On the road in pedal mode/auto you need to preselect your lowest gear as 4a so the tractor isn’t jumping between 3rd and 4th range at every junction.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

That would be something I would do, if and when I found out how. I only had it for a couple of days so refrained from fiddling with settings.

gates open usually means you either forgot to close them, fly tippers found a new dumping ground or some randy couple thought they had the perfect spot one night. i still think you gunna go for the case, i think the case is simpler and if the price is right worth getting...

If I had to choose I would pick the t5. The hitch is easier, no "waking it up" I like the extra eco gear in the t5 so it could be more economical on the road, the damped loader looks as though it does the job of smoothing out bumps rather well and i think it looks more meaty for some reason and the gearbox seems smoother

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

The Overdrive is also available for the 5S but with a different (and better imho) transmission. The "waking up" is an economy feature as it disconnects the hydraulic pump for the rear hitch from the rest of the powertrain, as far as I know. It saves maintenance and fuel.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbi I didn’t know that bit, thank you. 👍🏼

Ian. I agree with you on the steering wheel. The engine sounded real smooth too. Never loaded down while driving. Not having to rev for the hydraulics is nice too. Not the same class of tractor, but with my John Deere 2025R I’m always revving for either PTO or hydraulics.

hello i been follow from the start like waching your videos very good think its funny when u joke around with your daughters

Thanks for sharing all the things you do !

This is IMPORTANT to know Ian, regarding fuel consumption. The Dyna6 does have the same overdrive as the T5. You can do 40k at 1500RPM and 45k at about 1650, roughly. The Dyna4 doesnt have that, it was one of the main reason a fellow farmer in my hometown got his 5S with a Dyna6 as he also does a lot of bale hauling with that tractor (runs on feeder, bale hauling and wrapping mostly). Also, make sure you select the lowest possible gear for the automatic mode to be highest A range, that way you avoid jumping. Quite handy if you get used to it.

You did pretty well with the squeeze forks, considering they are really designed for bales lying on their side. The tractor seems very relaxed when doing loader work, great that it can do it all on tickover.

Great video Ian it seems to be very comfortable

Nice tractor the Massy and it seems that with the engine bonnet sloping away it makes using the loader a lot easier. nice job Ian well done.

Biskit looks so cute all bucked up. I think she did want you to buckle her up she was happy after you did. Another Biskit approval. :)

Such a great machine

Great video as always farmer P

Good video mr. P. 👍👍👍👍

Good evening Ian, I am just glad I don’t have to pick which tractor 🚜 as they all look very good 👍 I hope you pick the right one as Biskit will only want the best. You stay safe and look after yourself and stay as well as you can.🚜🚜👍⭐️.

Morning ian, great content as usual cheers 😄

Well you enjoyed that and you loaded the trailer no problem. Performing as good as the T5

Loving the camera angles Ian

Morning farmer p mum p abbi holli emma sam bisskit and ur other dogs A great vlog as always and bisskits ever so cute I think the tractor with the grabber on the fronnt is a good one and if u had that one u wood only need to have and drive once and not keep going back for the other tractor and im loving the red colour as its my favourite colour Thank u to u and ur family 4 the excellient time we had and we loved it ever so much and we cant thank u enuff Love u guys❤❤❤

Hello from the Netherlands and thanks for the video. Sincerely, Hollandduck

Nice video mate, what helps is if you topple the bale on its side, so when you approach it, it's a circle a ⭕ looking at you..then the 2 bars slide under the bottom part, to pick it up that way, without any damage 😊👌🚜. If you have the ties anyway, that helps, also if you have the end frames that'll keep them in position too 😅 A different attachment you can use, is a clamp that looks like 2 massive hands, which can grab the bale , then can move it up or down to a 90 degree angle, if that makes sense, and then set it on the trailer flat.

great video

Interesting content again

That looks the business Ian

Hi Ian I've driven the 54 and64 range they were fantastic.i agree with you about the steering wheel I've seen a Massey your driving at a dairy farm at hampreston manor farm in dorset.i would reckon mend it but I do like the t5.keep up the good work mate.👍😃

A very good Wednesday evening to you all

practice makes perfect ian

Maybe when you've squeezed the bale properly go back to the stack and push the next bale you'll want over with the bale your holding a little to get your tine in if that makes sense your only touching it with the bale so less chance of braking wrap. Hope that makes sence lol great vid quite like the look of new massey 👍

You Europeans are very lucky, of course you are hardworking.

Definitely more rocking on the cab than T5

As a first time using the loader that was excellent! I'm sure that with more practice you would be using this great red and grey machine with ease! The cab is fabulous!

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I also liked the cab, apart from the middle pillar on my left, that would make hedge trimming a lot more effort.

@charleshart6992

2 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP I see what you mean

Mates farm down the road to me have the older models of the 5s. they love them and haven't looked back to New Holland since! allot of choosing a tractor isnt just about colour and badge. it comes down to the dealers. i do rate the masseys myself have driven a fair few in my time!

Richard always seem to catch wrapped bales with his squeezer. Even the purpose of a squeezer is to do less damage to wrapped bales they they seem to do more damage than what a spike would. I'd personally just spike them and take a role of black tape with me. Also I have to say the only thing the I don't like about the Massey is that link and unlinking process seem such a faff, I know it's all for safety but seems a bit extreme. I remember my collage days where all you had to do was press a button and it locks the pickup hitch in to place. Great video Ian and Biscuit 🐶😊🚜

The Fleming version of that kind of bale lifter has removable cylinders with spikes in below which is very handy

farmer p come on you are going to go for the t5 you loved that tractor

Roll on the Case .

Hi. A tip is that when you open the rear window, there is a small mirror there and it is for you to be able to see the tow if the mirror is angled correctly, which makes it easier to connect trailers. 🚜❗️

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

It was on the wrong side Patrick, you would need a neck like an owl to use it.

@patrikantonsson4682

2 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP Hi. Perhaps it is possible to move or remount the mirror?. 🚜❗️

Good evening Mr. P. that was an interesting road trip biscuit seems to be at home in it. I think you got the hang of driving it pretty quickly as all tractors have a different gear box it's a new learning curve every time. Still think it's a bit of a fiddle with the hitch waking it up pushing button A and so on. Is the hole in your tee shirt for added ventilation or comfort. Keep well and stay safe.

Also yeah, the floaty feeling you have is the full combination of front, rear and cab suspension. You get used to it, trust me ^^

Another great video has always farmer p ian and Mrs p Sam emma Abbi and holli and miss biskit miss crumble miss gypsy miss pepper and miss pickle 👍

A Massey I drove had a lovely purr to it I think it was a Perkins engine

keep ar it mate,youle find an easier way.

Have one of your daughters ride to give there opinion. Even though end of day it's your choice etc.

Make sure you buy a loader with good reach v useful for loading bales abs and you should also be able to load silage bales from one side.

👍

very nice tractor but masseys classy but case is better

I must say Ian. Squeezer you use on the Mustang is my favourite. I hate the one you have on the 5s. I've done spiking big bales in a tight area with a MF 6475 (6 cylinder). Total nightmare to grab bales. That 5s is some machine. Think you might be better trying a dyna 6. 4F in gears used to drop the rpm down to 1800rpm. Less fuel and plenty of grunt

To early to judge much yet, but blue by a whisker, Reds a lovely bit of kit, but not as sure footed (looked squirrely) Like I've side before I no nothing of tractors so I could well be wrong.

Hi Ian that seat isn't anything like the one I had In the 7S , It really was like sitting in me armchair mate.

Wheelbase is probably part of your bounce.

😊

Puttin the seat belt on Biskit....well I nearly wet meself!😂😂😂

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

Some of you folks get very concerned about her safety and well being you know 😄

If you look at any of the factory paper work or brochures bottom fine print for New Holland you will see the corporate initials of CNH. That's Case/New Holland. When Case wanted to get into the AG market seriously they chose buying New Holland for the wide array of high quality motorized machines and implements. They also availed themselves of all New Hollands best without inventing the wheel, so to speak. I don't know of which today is superior. Case of New Holland. I sure liked the way the New Holland dealer jumped to serve you.

Valtra G135 is similar underneath with valtra gearbox. Can come with eco mode

you may find the gear and pull away issue at the start is down to the settings, you can adjust the response to the power so it may be up on harsh/boy racer rather than a sensible smoother power input, as for the bales, sure your elephant nose could get a adaptor plate made for what ever loader you may go for otherwise store them on the round not the upright and that grab will work fine , i guess thats just what chandlers had in to get you by

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I asked for whatever bale squeeze they had Sean. I store bales on their flat for a couple of reasons. The wrap is thicker on the flat, less chance of a stone puncture, plus a bit tougher on top for the bloody crows to vandalise 😄I can stack them tighter, keep the rabbits out, they are also much harder to climb, keeping kids off. Best of all, it looks neat 🙂👍🏼👍🏼

👍💯👍

That is a nice machine mr p

Can you get an elephant grab for tractors? One thing to consider, is that the tractor with a loader will reduce hours on the mustang, and save on some of the driving over to other farm or across the fields, but will still be the best shed packing/yard machine.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I would get an adaptor plate for mine 🙂👍🏼

If you do a handling course they say the loader should be low down and you shouldn't travel on the road with it in the air as its dangerous with regards to stability and various other things. Maybe worth looking into. Tractor looks fantastic though. Very impressive

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Have it further down, and have the implement point as much downwards as possible.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbi My preference is loader down, implement off. But we have so many tight corners and high hedges I tend to go with my second option loader up, implement level….. We also have a lot of low cables.

Well ask Chandlers if they could demo the 5712 SL with a front loader on it

Soft hands squeezes, come in on a 45 degree angle you want or shouldn't damage the wrap.

Theres a place in Dorchester that does air suspension for Case Tractirs

Had your best out of that t shirt Ian, blown the armpits clean out of it 🤣 Hopefully you get a new one with your new tractor purchase 🙈🤣

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

That T shirt has been a favourite since 2012. Fond memories, I know it’s on its last legs though 😕

@thefuturefarmer88

2 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerP haha I know the sort, I have a few myself! 🤣 Great vids as always keep up the great work 👍 P.s I don't think the massey is the one for you.

Yep Farmer P,

I think you would find it easier with the bales the other way around, as you will end up with a small triangle shape between the bales and less chance of damaging a bale.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I’m used to stacking with the elephant nose. Much tighter and less space for vermin to get in.

Drop the bale on the trailer then push them sideways into place with squeeze

Wow if that's how it starts when new what's it going to be like in a few years time, my 50 year old 50B started first turn of key with a car battery on after being left for 2 years, you can't beat the old Masseys

@hughcarrigan7824

2 жыл бұрын

All modern tractors are like that it's electronic ignition

@hughcarrigan7824

2 жыл бұрын

All modern tractors are like that it's electronic ignition

@paulweston2326

2 жыл бұрын

Surely my brand new daf truck has electronic ignition but that starts first turn of key too, by the way I'm not against Massey Ferguson, I used to be a Massey fitter and have 3 Masseys myself

@hughcarrigan7824

2 жыл бұрын

I have an old massey myself and it's brilliant to start even at minus 20! But I have modern tractors (other brands)and they are all the same it takes a few turns you get used to it and.now I don't take any notice!

Think the massy suites you.👍🏻

It would be the new Holland and it’s dual clutch gearbox I’d go for if finances allowed.

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

Most powershift transmissions can shift clutchless, including the 5S Dyna4 and Dyna6

Quite often the tubes on those bales squeezes undo and their are spikes inside

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I kept a close eye on that.

Hello Ian. I am enjoying the videos on the new tractors. Have you given sny thought about getting a skid steer implement adaptor for the loader?

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I have 🙂

🚜🚜🚜😎😎😎👍

Thought getting orange tractor to

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

When they find me one.

You only pulled straw bales with the new holland wrapped silage is a heavier bale don’t forget

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I was hauling hay, not straw, and the bales were 20% bigger, weights were pretty close.

Not feeling the same vibes as the T5

"Not quite as comfortable" says it all. Buying will be 50% for comfort surely?

what ever implements you will use you will get used to the controls I think it will come down to ride comfort and cost.

what i think it is a lot off pushing 3 or 4 buttons before you can operate the hitch. wake it up first??? and the awesome farmer learned to pick them up from the top down .

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

You get used to it, and its made for economic reason. As far as I know, it disconnects the hydraulic pump for the rear hitch from the powertrain saving fuel and maintenance.

With them bale grabs especially without a drop nose tractor, its very difficult to see whats happening, there's a good view overall on them, also if you can turn down or turn off at times the front suspension could lesson the bouncing. Did you have or getting a demo of the massey ferguson 5711M ? Mike

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

Rich Cornock tested the 5711. I had a look at his.

If the massey is a little faster then do the rebs as bit and it'll save you fuel and be around the same speed as the t5. Does the massey react the same as the t5, as in, does it stop by just pressing the break and not having to use the clutch? I'm guessing you have to use the clutch which in my book is a big plus in favour of the t5. I'm pretty sure you can turn the front suspension off which may help with the ride.

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

The 5S also has the clutch-brake system. And why would he want to turn off the front suspension?! The overdrive is a feature in the Dyna6 transmission that is also available (and in my opinion much better)

@roberthiggins6401

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbi I meant it as a suggestion as he said about the motion and I presume the loader has soft ride but it could be the cab suspension or a combination of all three.

I think you are meant to turn the rollers upwards for safety on the highway.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I did for a bit, but was unsure how well they were attached, it was a well used squeezer. So I erred on the side of caution and let great uncle gravity provide a little insurance 🙂

Could you put bale squeezer over the top of the bales and push the bar down between them? Also when you put a bale on can you give the previous one a nudge sideways?

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

You will witness my learning curve in the next video Ken 😄😄👍🏼

Are those pipes on the grabberfork just covers over spikes tho?

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can take the tubes off and use the spikes inside as well.

Farmer p With all them nobs do u get the rong nob sometimes as there r loads u have to use So u mite have trouble using ur nobs at times Love u guys❤❤❤

Is there a retrofit cab suspension cab and seat kit for the Case,would save a bit of money if there is,tractors have come a long way since the MF 65 I use to drive at my uncles place it had a McConnell bale squeeze lifter on the loader would have been nice to have had joy stick control for the loader instead of the block and levers,the tractor did have air conditioning (no cab) I see your T shirts got air conditioning down the right side that'll be nice and cool

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

No retro fit that I’m aware of.

Hi

Ian would using the gear box as normal instead of auto, would that make a difference to the RPM ?

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

No, the Dyna4 is missing the overdrive. Dyna6 has the overdrive and is a much better transmission.

Of course the sunvisor has to go unless Chandlers cough up some sponsorship for it. If they don't you can put "Farmer P & Biskit" up, hark back to the 80s!!

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

It was a bit of a pain for sure.

From an observers point of view the ride does not seem as refind as the T5,

I don't like the limited vision behind the forks

Hi Ian slightly of topic about the fergie was that a 434 international you drove past?

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn’t looking, sorry.

That's the dyna transmission the 4 and the 6 both suffer with poor speed matching people either love them or hate them I know people who got rid because it threw them into roundabouts and dropped to low nearly bringing the tractor to a virtual stop on a busy roundabout

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

Then these people had now idea how to properly adjust the auto-match. If you spend 5 minutes you can make this one drive like a glove.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

I did suffer that a few times, but put it down to factory settings. I would re set the transmission to my own preferences if I bought one 🙂

i think thereis spikes under the pipes you gig well

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

No, usually its big metal tubes that are rounded off at the end.

@russellpetrie119

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbi ok my bad

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, there are spikes inside the tubes.

Probably better turning off front suspension when the loaders on, that’s likely why it was moving so much. When’s the Kubota coming ?

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

No news on the Kubota yet.

Is it an option for the seat to rotate some to the right to look at equipment behind and not strain the neck.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

Most modern seats have some rotation, it saves your neck but puts your hip out if you are clutching 😄

Hi Ian if you take the sticker off you could put one saying old farmers do it in bed🤔😆😉☺👍👌

Oh No. Along with that door pillar, It appears that you have one of those awful gear boxes for the rear wiper right in your line of sight over your left shoulder. That "Wake Up" thing for the hydraulics seems like it would become annoying to me and I am not even driving the thing. It reminds me of operating a PTO powered implement with a single stage clutch tractor, like the old 8N Fords.

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

You get used to it, and as I wrote in many other comments its designed for eco reasons. Less moving parts, less fuel, less maintenance when the hydraulic pump for the rear is disconnected.

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbi It was no trouble once I got used to it, and if it improves economy, I’m all for it.🙂👍🏼

Does the massy have to power in the grab to lift 2 at a time Ian

@FarmerP

2 жыл бұрын

Two hay bales on the spikes, yes.

Does the Massey not have an eco gearbox 🤔 Thought that was pretty standard now, surprised by that.

@stubbi

2 жыл бұрын

The Dyna6 has it. The Dyna4 is more meant for farmyard work. A farmer in my home village got his 5S with the Dyna6 for that reason.

@tipperarymick5337

2 жыл бұрын

@@stubbi Interesting. Cheers 👍