British Asian guy here (Essex/London-raised Filipino bloke living in NYC) wanted to share my perspective and get other peoples take on this 😄 In terms of aesthetic and appearance I guess I fall under the eboy/pretty boy category via. Ear piercings, medium lengthed wavy/curly permed hair, skincare, and I go for a starboy/preppy/quiet luxury wardrobe, so in terms of attire and aesthetic I’d be lumped in with every prettyboy Asian/asian American TikTok poster child. That being said, I fervently cater to my fitness and physique (via. 1 hour cardio, starting doing heavier Weight lifting, a regimented and clean alcohol and sugar free diet) and I’m an avid boxer/Muay Thai practitioner, I have a glaring hawk tattoo on my chest, my accents literally no more Asian than Idris Elbas or Danny Dyer since I’m an essex boy (southeast of England), I still watch Premier League football on Sundays, and I’m currently pursuing a British Military/Defence sector career. Which I suppose are sensibilities/interests which bleed into the “Apollo” or “Gigachad” archetypes. The point is I feel like these 3 categories are just a baseline for Asian guys and shouldn’t be a forced trichotomy. And the reality is that most Asian dudes will realistically have enough nuance/unique personality and aspirations to crossover either 3

@jmedz893

6 ай бұрын

Fellow British-Filipino here from London .. I'm 5'9 with blue eyes, often clean shaven but have a hairline worst than Le Bron, but I even found the K-Pop ting to be heavily desired in Thailand .. Even in Philippines, people there didn't really think much of my look. Maybe it's because I'm in my mid-30s now so I appear to be much older, so maybe I just need some drastic makeover to make me more appealing to women, or get on Love Island or something lol

@DemocracyManifestJr

6 ай бұрын

@@jmedz893 Glad to meet a fellow countryman on this side of KZread, mate 👊 😆 It’s all about finding the perfect overlap between aesthetics while realistically tailoring it to your personality and style I guess! As a Filipino the 30’s has the potential to be your style prime, look up SEA Models and Actors like Desmond Chiam, Chuando Tan or even Henry Golding if you can, while growing out and throwing in some k-pop hairstyles if you can. If not a clean buzz cut with a chiseled physique (not overly muscular) works just as well with the right niche P.s. whereabouts in Thailand were you? I was just in Phuket with my gf and family a few weeks ago for Christmas/new years

@jmedz893

6 ай бұрын

@@DemocracyManifestJr I was in Pattaya late November :) Was in Bangkok a few times as well as I have a friend there. I also spent Xmas/New Years with fam there as well in 2017. I honestly have given up trying to date here in UK now dude. Whilst I didn't have drastic overnight success in Thailand - I at least noticed a stark difference in attention I was getting there versus here in London. My main issue is that I really don't think that girls here would commit to a guy that looks like me, we're all trumped by other ethnicities dude; Black/Caribbean, Arab, South Asian, White etc, its difficult to stand out here. Funnily enough, I actually put in my Match bio that I'm the "ghetto version of Henry Golding" lol. But yeh in Pattaya the Koreans & tall White dudes were my ops lol

@DemocracyManifestJr

6 ай бұрын

@@jmedz893still mate, don’t let it rule out all prospects of dating in the UK! Sometimes all it takes is a slight rebranding (style and aesthetic) and going out of your comfort zone ! And in all fairness, if you’re in a close minded community surrounded by woman and people who judge you right off the bat for being Asian alone, then they’re not worth the day let alone are they good people. You owe em fuck all effort or notice, and people with bullshit outdated and superficial prejudices aren’t people you want to associate with from the get go, much less people who get far in life. Keep your chin up mate, and own that ghetto roadman Henry Golding vibe! You got this, big man 🇬🇧 🇵🇭 💪 P.s. Bangkok is absolutely unmatched, and I’ve heard Pattaya is gorgeous during winter 🔥

@jmedz893

6 ай бұрын

@@DemocracyManifestJr Thanks dude :) Yeh Pattaya from late Oct to end of Feb is probably the best (& cheapest) time to visit the city .. The whole "high/low season" thing has changed weirdly since the pandemic so it wasn't too hectic when I went. They had some 3-day fireworks display happening where Philippines competed in it & were quite good. As for Bangkok I was only there mainly during the day cos I was proper tired walking around the malls lol

Koreans are the ultimate marketers. Every white person thinks I’m a Korean now. I look nothing like a k-pop with my shaved head, leather jackets, and heavy jeans

@gametri-eq6lj

3 ай бұрын

idk maybe you got the conscripted Korean aesthetic

I guess I transitioned through all of these looks throughout my life. I didn't fill out my slender frame until I was in my mid 20's. No tattoos, no unnecessary facial hair, just being the best version of myself with my tech job and being active at the gym and various sports. It is a surprise when I take my shirt off. Being in the music program in school allowed me to experience things that I would otherwise not have experienced. Traveling, learning, being active is what makes you interesting. Looks fade and styles change. At the end of the day, you are left with yourself. People need to stop trying to fit into a mold/archetype and just be themselves.

@mocheen4837

3 ай бұрын

I went through all of the three phases myself. I started out at 140 lbs and after working out for years went up to 185 lbs being able to lift over double my body weight. I dress nice for work, but on the weekends prefer to be in sweats and a t shirt as it is comfortable and versatile.

@ekozoidmajiker6186

3 ай бұрын

'wished your wisdom is also applicable to women

Just do you. Ignore what this influencer says to attain these superficial archetypes (Western standards), and do what works for you and what makes you happy and successful on your path in life.

@LeadLeftLeon

6 ай бұрын

K-pop isn’t western at all. Dudes who look girly are a small niche!

@DemocracyManifestJr

6 ай бұрын

@@LeadLeftLeon gotta find the perfect and most pragmatic overlap amidst these 3 categories, mate. Pretty boy face and medium-longer hairstyles (doesn’t necessarily have to be K-pop passing) with the lean body of a welterweight pro boxer, a somewhat mysterious but assertive and compassionate personality, mixed with minimalistic/quiet luxury tailored clothing are the piece de resistance to fighting your way up the dating food chain as an Asian bloke 💪

I find the pretty boy works for most Asian guys.

Fung Bros seasonal style makeovers as a case study! I'd love to see it. Get some volunteer fans in NY, sponsored by those bespoke fashion companies or local vendors, maybe reconnect with Leo Chan from Levitate or Richie Le. Or connect with my favorite fashion CC Frugal Aesthetic. New series idea? Seasonal fashion videos and then "Off-Season" specials and challenges such as "Mall Only outfit" or "Target only outfit" or "Thrift store fashion makeover." These gold nuggets are free for you. Add it to the whiteboard.

I really feel that this is an interesting topic that explores the topics of masculinity. It kind of reminded me that masculinity has like the Hard and Soft spectrum , like the Kpop style pretty boys and the warrior type macho mens (This also reminded me of the Wen- Wu Masculinity thing which was some Chinese thing about masculinity). This video showed me how different groups of people express their ‘manliness’ and how guys can sometimes have to settle for a certain ‘style’ within the spectrum. Just wondering, although the perception of Asians(East) is that of more of a ‘‘scholarly’ and maybe ‘pretty boy’ look. What about Asians like maybe Mongolians which are somewhat of an East Asian (or maybe they are Central Asians). Because I feel like Mongolian can be perceived to be like gigachads (Like Genghis Khan) and also a little edgy like the band The Hu. Really found this video rather insightful and hope to see more videos like this!😄

@LeadLeftLeon

6 ай бұрын

Mongolians Turkic Asians Central Asians Siberian Asians. I’ll call them steppe Asians for simplicity. They don’t exist in the western mind. Steppe Asians are acknowledged in the Russian world!

@migukin7492

6 ай бұрын

Some Mongols look like Koreans and some looks Kazakh or Asian Russians. I know this Mongols who did DNA test and it showed more than 70% Koreans she was shocked. I think it’s because the Manchurians from the far northeast Asia conquered and ruled Mongols for 300 yrs.

I believe that you need to match your facial structure and own personality to decide which category to fit in, and making sure that it is ATTAINABLE

Tyga x Jay Park hybrid 😂

Broke Asian dudes get more girls because they have more time for them. Ambitious men don’t randomly hangout all the time especially with girls

@tabithayeldell8863

6 ай бұрын

Ha! No job = more time!

@hlcapa

2 ай бұрын

​@@tabithayeldell8863lol

Muscles and gym with protein snacks three times a week on one end (chad). Meanwhile, flashy clothes like mesh and stacked flare jeans (pretty boy). Alright, Apollo is where I'm at now!

From what I've observed, most women typically prefer a toned guy, but not to the point where it looks like he's juicing. Men usually look at the bodybuilder type and think that's the epitome of manhood, but women tend to be turned off by this physique because it evokes vanity.

Looks maxing leads with being in shape. Dont be fat, groom yourself regularly and get your money up.

@Postc0ital_mal0ne

2 ай бұрын

Get Money oughta be the baseline

This conversation always gets me thinking how I got the most positive female attention when I was skinnier. I was such a great example of not needing to get all buff to attract female attention. I'm filling out a medium shirt now, which is what I always wanted, but my phone is BONE dry compared to when I was like 135lbs. I was dating this FINE ass 50 year old woman who owned her own firm in Atlanta. That woman was better-kept than 70% of women 25 years younger than her...HIGH QUALITY. Structurally, I fit in with the middle-tier because I'm medium tall (5'10) and my face is more in line with what they'd call "classic" among those fashion classification archetypes. Sort of like a dark skinned Sawyer from Lost, or Christopher Reeves. A friend of mine said I sometimes remind him of Jeff Goldblum in the original Jurassic Park. I genuinely just don't feel like I have a grasp of where I sit with most women anymore, but I think that also has a lot to do with my "fishbowl". I live in the South, where if you're not either a dad-bod "every-man" or the hyper-masculine gym-rat archetype, you aren't really on the menu. All the girls I'm attracted to (I like em petite!) all go after dudes way taller than me and are the kind of dudes I wouldn't enjoy trying to emulate. So I've resolved to move somewhere where my body type is in favor. Gotta do what you gotta do!

Do you know how insane this guy sounds even if he's right. You basically need to be either photoshop beautiful or have the body of a fitness model and you'll match with an average girl on a dating app lmao. Why would you do that to yourselves as a guy?

@LeadLeftLeon

6 ай бұрын

Always question the source of girl advice. Is this person ucking the girls I’d be interested in. Genuine interest not just some girl someone would settle for

@invisiblerevolution

6 ай бұрын

I know this whole thing is crazy!!!!!

@Grim67894

6 ай бұрын

Because his advice is for dudes who get 0 bitches anyway and wanna try "something" to get "something"

@playafly1776

6 ай бұрын

Trust me it’s worth it. Living as an attractive guy is such a fulfilling existence.

No love for Shredded MMA. Dude fistfights for a living. Boxing is the most alpha activity anyone can do

@lockiet7227

6 ай бұрын

Anything who believes this guaranteed isn’t a alpha

South East Asian: Tattoos and martial arts. Those were what I’ve done.

I always wanted a cute GF. In school I would always try to impress her and stand out. I ended up annoying her instead lol The kind of girls that are attracted to me are the sexy model type. It took me a while to realize that and accept it. You gotta open your eyes about yourself and the girls around you. Working out and getting in shape you'll never lose. It's a win/win situation because in the end you'll walk away healthier

@LeadLeftLeon

6 ай бұрын

congrats. Sexy > cute. She's an adult not a puppy or child!

@champepang6824

6 ай бұрын

@@LeadLeftLeon Where the heck did you get puppy from? I know where this is going. Kids go to school. Not adults. I wanted to share my experience. Not give lessons on how to read. Out of everything was said and that's what you got out of it!?!

That Atsushi-San from Buck-Tick he died recently which sucks.

LOL Andrew said "The type to fold you up in a chair when you're doin' the dirty..." 🤣

Don't need it. Don't care.

If you do you, you gotta be the best at what you are still and be an exception. If you’re being yourself but get little results then you’re doing something wrong. It’s like you created a formula that doesn’t even work. You gotta be as realistic as possible and realize you need to do things that get results. If keep it real gets you nowhere, learn from others and don’t be ignorant thinking being comfortable being you will get you somewhere unless you know what you’re doing.

Think u guys should've used actor Don Lee as a hyper masculine example for Asians instead of Simu Liu. He fits the archetype better.

When you say Smala goes well with everything, do you have a specific dish in mind? I’m down to try it but I really don’t know what to put it on (esp since I barely cook)

@red-wd3cm

6 ай бұрын

Instant noodle

@MrGrim504

6 ай бұрын

​literally anything...pizza, burgers, any soups, any noodle soups, any stir fried dish, fried chicken, french fries, mix it in ketchup or any sauce or condiments, squeeze a bit on a chip like people would with Sriracha..pretty much anything that's not a sweet dessert, you can try it with the sauce..you're making it more complicated than it needs to be

@d15z1sux

6 ай бұрын

Fried rice and also on eggs

Just look as good as you can and work on manners, education, everyday skills like cooking etc.

That crow look 💀

The type whose life has been controlled by traditional Asian parents since birth but lives in a Western country.

In my better years, I'd put myself in between an Apollo and giga Chad lol.. Comparable to a Young Mazino..Now...I like to describe myself as an East Asian Polynesian..😂😂

@yannickjohn6930

6 ай бұрын

You influenced by Tua from the Miami Dolphins? He had a hell of a year too! 😊

As an asian man in his early 30 i go for more of an old money look.

Search for Dingdong Dantes. Buff with a great look.

why dont u guys ever bring in your dating life experience into the video

What about Ben baller, Eddie huang, dumbfounded, jay park. They all dress urban. Do they look weird?

Love Kevin Kreider! He's so nice irl. I was surprised to find out he has his own insecurities about his looks too. Glad he has a platform to help represent Asian adoptees! I guess my husband is a category of his own, he used to be nerdy, still kind of is, but is pretty built and has a good social circle of friends. No tattoos for him anytime soon tho lol. Wears glasses, but also likes his Gatsby hair gel lol. Mostly wears various shades of blue. He may not be perfect but is certainly not part of that "dark triad" category.

Most people can’t tell the difference. They just view Asians as Asian. Even after looksmaxing… It just depends on their type. A Black Woman can looksmax but if they don’t find Black Woman attractive it doesn’t matter. Black Woman and Asian Men rank the same. Blasian Babies are cute. Maybe Asian Men should just date Black Women. Dating each other makes sense.

Light yagami would be the eboy/apollo mix for the asian brothas

Kpopmaxxing works for pale East Asians with neotenous features.

@LeadLeftLeon

6 ай бұрын

Example host on our right would probably pull off K-pop better than our cap man

@CoolNumber1

6 ай бұрын

Not really. Work for younger generation only. Older generation still better to look like a samurai or dynasty warrior

@Grim67894

6 ай бұрын

@@CoolNumber1 asians also age better. asians 30-35 with a kpop look can probably pull baddies age 24-28. then transition to warrior look past that (even better if girl is already "locked in")

@CoolNumber1

6 ай бұрын

Only if you're into younger girls. But i like older girls cuz I dont like kids looking.@@Grim67894

There are 2 types of Asians, either they are heavily influenced by their parents from Asia (99+% of the 2nd gen), or a free thinker.

Women like what they're told to like.

I am #4😁. Jose Rizal type

how do you justify arnold in the 80s? fame. Bodybuilders are definitely not what most women want. But that doesn't matter if STATUS is maxxed. Women look at Status first, then looks or wealth (the former for love the latter for long term relationship)

No thank to

Be true to yourself and develop a personal style that reflects who you are and aspire to be. The examples of different men are just stereotypes or templates one should use as a reference, but just be yourself. Authenticity and unique personal style are super attractive because those qualities can make you stand out from the crowd in a positive way and attract like minded people.

where is my BOLOs!?

Rice Asians aren’t qualified to advise curry Asians imo. Not only is there a stark difference in their appearance there’s a cultural contrast also. 3 branches of Asians in the western world: East Asian, South Asian, and Southeast Asian [mix between the two more so in culture followed by genes]

Only 3 archetypes?

@92ChatNoir92

6 ай бұрын

I'm sure they have more in mind lol, I think they made that video of 18 types of Asian girls lol

@KahinAhmed72

6 ай бұрын

@@92ChatNoir92And they did the same for Asian guys.

What’s the age range of the market that likes k-pop appearance?

@DemocracyManifestJr

6 ай бұрын

Met loads of girls in the U.S. alone over 24 who have a deep seated weakness for the k-pop/pretty boy look Medium/longer lengthed curtain hair with texture or waves/curls paired with some simple silver ear piercings is a start

disclaimer: I'm prob an Apollo lol. But these looksmaxing talks where people just pick a look regardless of whether it matches their tastes or personality is kind of weird. Are things really that thin and superficial out there?

Kind of sad how these incel mentality/analysis is becoming more and more mainstream. Makes sense with how asians need a textbook categorization of what kind of masculinity they should go for. Honestly just be your self. Let asians get more creative and form their own original style that cant be emulated by others. Thats how you truly make yourself stand out in a group.

East Asian should go for soft boy k poop look, SEA should go for tattoo buff look

@Grim67894

6 ай бұрын

What about lots of SEA's with east asian look? Lots of vietnamese are half chinese.

@mikel9751

6 ай бұрын

@@Grim67894 yeah sure

@asj685

4 ай бұрын

Xiao Zhan, Wang Kai, Hu Ge, Lin Gengshin or Song Weilong cutie pie types

@lotuspocus2165

3 ай бұрын

You sound bitter. The reality is that women love Korean men because they are a lot bigger physically compared to SE Asians. Womp womp 😂

I think there is some truth to the stocky buzz-cut Asian look being replaced by the K-Pop look .. I'm quite stocky for a British-Filipino dude & I'm losing my hair like crazy, but I was in Thailand recently & the girls there go absolutely crazy for the K-Pop look. I definitely felt I was having to compete with them despite me having blue eyes & looking like a hapa. I'm in my mid-30s, & I'm honestly confused about what look I should steer towards to appeal to East/SE Asian girls, or maybe I just need a fashion makeover .. I dunno.

what a ridiculous premise

@SmoothLife.

6 ай бұрын

No not at all. Very necessary

I really, don't understand these types maybe im getting old. Im 43 years old asian family man with a dad bod. I think im damn sexy😂😂

lol ricepill

I think you guys have it all wrong for being buff. Pretty boy are seen as feminine and can be portray as gay. Buff is the way to go

@chunsze635

6 ай бұрын

only buff boy who cant fall on the pretty boy type would say they're gay or feminine

@xt3916

6 ай бұрын

@@chunsze635 lol, I've seen a lot of gays hitting on pretty boy cause they think they're gay. So not sure what you're ranting about. Buff and even if you're not good looking at least she will choose you for your physique instead of having a ugly face and ugly flat body she prone to choose you for 1 or the other

lebron is not better than kobe or mj

Horrible examples on celebrity to body type.

really early not first

early

Males not being able to handle having their looks picked apart is hilarious 😂😂