Best mastering tips channel out here!! Thank u

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Huge love!

I'm a mastering engineer, and I clicked on this video for the title because youtube mastering tutorials are usually full of crap. I gotta say however, this is a very good video. All tips are accurate. Very impressed

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was worth the watch! Thanks for watching!

Somebody has to hold these self-taught "KZread Music Producer/Mixers" accountable for just saying anything. I don't care who you are, but if someone is trying to give me mix advice using FL Studio or a neon sign on the wall that says "EDM Tips" with foam panels on the back wall....I'm out ☮. Another reason why I love the detailed, scientific approach to your videos. Good man!

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching; everyone has their own angle; and that's fair enough; I think it's a limitation in the format of video content where-by what is said on the screen leaves a lot for interoperation and also; little for discussion other than the comments below; I find this the same for my videos when I've got something wrong; people call it out in the comments; and I wish I could just go back into the video and correct myself; but people have to go into the comments to see the corrections;

Great content! The track also was 🔥

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Thanks ! YES! Going Home by MorningMaxwell & Jade Alice

GREAT contents! 💯

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

What a track to show as an example. Go off jade and maxxxx!!

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

It's wild!!!

4:00 if you do a boost like that on the master, ringing is the least of your problems lmao

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Yes you’re right! This was for examples sake

@intranexine8901

Жыл бұрын

@@panorama_mastering yea I just think that the impact of preringing is vastly overstated, especially with the small EQ changes that one usually does while mastering, while the phaseshift of regular EQs can lead to especially distorted, square-like heavy bass waveforms massively increasing in amplitude, hurting your maximum loudness for the track for no good reason. Dan worall once made a video about how much of a problem preringing really is called "sympathy for the devil" and I think he broke it down well, it's not that bad.

@luciiddd

Жыл бұрын

🤣

I watched a tutorial video with Metropolis Mastering and they were cutting 22hz on a song (using Ozone plugin)

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Link? And the WHY! is important;

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Friend told me of MAAT Orange eq, apparently that is proper linear he said the fab filter pro q wasn't good at linear. Maybe try it please MAAT Orange, Id be very interested to see what you think of it, as you are very good t all this stuff! LOVE YOUR KZread CONTENET> :)

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Yeah; I've heard of another too which is stating similar; I WILL get around to checking them out; all in good time;

If you do wider boosts and cuts in max +/-2dB range you won't hear any pre-ringing and the benefit of using linear-phase eq will be significant compared to the traditional eq. It sounds smoother in the highs, less eq-ed and more full in the lows and low mids. So using linear phase eqs for mastering is actually pretty good advice. Just don't use narrow filters and hpf or lpf with linear-phase eq and you'll be fine.

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

How does it sound smoother in the highs, fuller in the lows and low mids? Objectively speaking? The resulting change in tone is identical; and there are no harmonic changes to these filter types? Please define this;

@huberttorzewski

Жыл бұрын

@@panorama_mastering I don't know, I was comparing Ozone digital vs analog eq modes and Pro-Q3 natural phase vs linear phase (high) and both (digital mode in Ozone and linear phase mode from Pro-Q3) sounded better than analog and natural phase modes on a full mix when doing multiple 0.5-2dB wide shelves and bell filters. The difference is very noticeable when there are 3-4 eq moves at once.

If, in the example about stereo width, youd have used the mono-maker knob to ensure the low end is still mono, would it still be a problem/possibly interfere with punchiness?

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

The oliptical filter / mono-maker for the low-end works on the exact sum-difference principles; so it's actually WORSE for the low end to do this for "Most" cases

@marcito12345

Жыл бұрын

@@panorama_mastering i see, thanks for clarifying! I assumed thats the thing its for as its always next to the stereo width knob what would you use it for / in what cases would it be useful then? Would you suggest just not using the stere width knob in the first place either?

Does linear phase eq can help in parallel bus Processing? Specially on low frequences Because I like to group my bass and kick or drums and send them into a parallel bus and Use EQ to isolate 150 to 350 hz. And i use chorus dimension d on It

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

For multi-channel drum recordings, yes it can certainly help! A lot of time in prep is soent getting the phase coherency betwen the mics set up correctly!

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Actually sounds like a fun video to do… you’re giving me ideas

One thing about the low cut on the master, can we use low cut with like a 12db/o slope and linear phase mode? and should we avoid putting low cut in mixing on low end content too?

@DorinBriciu

Жыл бұрын

Or use analog eqs: apply the filter u want, render the file, reverse the file and apply the same filter, render the file again and reverse it. Now u should have a perfect filter cut without phase issues since you’ve put all the phase shifted frequencies back in place the moment you processed the reversed signal. This nullifies and shift or pre-ringing. Should work with digital eqs aswell but those already exist as linear phase eqs. But hey analog linear phase sounds good amaright?? I got this from Dan Worrall, i aint no genious unlike him haha

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

The purpose of flagging low-cuts as broad advice was to force you to question WHY you’re doing it and if that why is always applicable/guving you the result you want. You use linear phase refer to section on this video re; linear phase and pre ringing. Regarding mixing; there’s more use cases as when your using pass filter you can also manage elements independently from one another too, so not only will it mask a louder peak or audible effect, you can also go in and move the volume of that individual element you’re effecting

@OUTSHADES

Жыл бұрын

@@panorama_mastering ah now I understand it better. Thank you so much.

@memeswillneverdie

Жыл бұрын

@@DorinBriciuor just use spectral editing, no phase issues and it takes 5 seconds

i still have trouble with this low shelf vs high pass debate. i understand the phase perk. but...when i cut at 25Hz, i'm not just trying to cut 25Hz 3db...I'm also trying to cut 20Hz significantly more, and 18Hz completely. a low shelf isn't gonna do all that. so when what's the solution?

@donotoliver

Жыл бұрын

Linear phase if you dont mind the caused pre-ringing, or use offline audio editing tools to cut it however you like without any side effects (in edison in fl studio for example)

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Why do you want to get rid of 18hz completely?

@Fire-Toolz

Жыл бұрын

@@donotoliver oh but i do care about pre-ringing LOL. i've actually used it as a cool effect on a kick loop before, but wouldn't want it to happen in mastering. i do use linear phase EQs sometimes but only with very easy slopes, and very carefully.

@Fire-Toolz

Жыл бұрын

@@panorama_mastering god damnit you got me there. i don't want it there based on the principle that it's useless...but if i can't hear it, it shouldn't matter if it's useless or not. so then my mind goes to the idea that i don't want it informing my dynamics processing...but you basically demonstrated that as long as it's not excessive, it won't interfere. damn you nicholas

"And show you the right way to do things" Your tips are really helpful don't get me wrong but all I want to say is there is no wrong or right in mixing or mastering

@davidasher22

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think this statement is completely true. There may be different ways of getting to the same place and not all things are set in stone but when you’ve been doing this for a long time you definitely find right and wrong ways of doing things. There are many repeatable procedures and processes that just work and taking the perspective of “there is no wrong or right way to mix” ignores the formulaic part of engineering which imo is 75% of the job. If there were no right or wrong ways to mix then any one could do the job. Right?

@donotoliver

Жыл бұрын

Difference is you make wrong decisions if you aren't aware of their consequences. Tons of new producers put high cuts at 20 hz but they don't know why they're even doing it, they've just been told without explaining

@nils2660

Жыл бұрын

@@davidasher22 Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the subject of mixing. It's true that there is a certain amount of subjectivity involved in the process, and what works for one person may not necessarily work for another. While there are certainly technical skills and fundamentals that need to be understood in order to create a quality mix, ultimately, it is the emotions and feelings of the song that are most important. As mixing engineers, we are tasked with finding ways to support and enhance the emotional impact of the music, regardless of whether or not it conforms to any specific rules or guidelines. Beginners may not yet have the knowledge or experience to fully realize their vision for a mix, but that doesn't mean that what they are doing is inherently "wrong." Instead, we should encourage experimentation and exploration in order to find new and innovative ways to create mixes that truly move and inspire us.

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

You’re right that there isn’t a wrong or right way, but there also is the thirst as a craftsperson to understand the WHY, and why certain things behave in certain ways; hence why I throw a bit of shade at the formentioned advice because it leaves holes/gaps in the knowledge of those who take it on board blindly

@nils2660

Жыл бұрын

@@panorama_mastering Yeah there is too much trash content out there

You are wrong... cutting at 20 hz DOES give you more headroom... even you say so... "sometimes it does," WHICH MEANS IT DOES! Get a Pro-L2, push the signal gain by something, 2 or 4 or 6 db... THEN on/off a EQ with a 20HZ cut... the mix WILL be louder with the 20HZ cut because the limiter can push MORE signal that ISN'T that low end that you can barely hear.

@panorama_mastering

Жыл бұрын

Here's exactly how HPF's work; kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3WszaWhmrCvk9LR.html