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@airdevil21

7 ай бұрын

I think it's a really nice kwad but both the 4 and 6s could use some more powerful motors... Maybe a pro version ;) and it needs HDZERO!!!

Water 'resistance' = clear nail polish. Comes off with an alcohol bath when you need to work on it and provides decent protection from anything short of a full dunk. Yes, you can submerge your FC in a glass of alcohol. 99% isopropyl.

@Markq666

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a really good ideas hmm

I put buzzers on every single quad in airplane if I didn't have buzzers on my drones I'd still be out looking for some of them you wouldn't believe how easy it is to be standing right on top of your drone in the grass or foliage and not see it

yep i fly my v1 everyday and yep runcam phienox and elrs added . great little quad imo. tiny ape changed cam too. which it too i like.

Darwinfpv products are great. Love the hulk and their smaller aio boards

i love my tiny ape despite the flimsy motor shafts... currently waiting for replacement motors....

5:12 - THE TREE MOVE!! 😍

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

kinda, need more fov to make it easier and look more fun

@MoeFPV

Жыл бұрын

thats the BURNS TURN !

wow i really like that im deff gonna start saving for one so come next year feb or so ill be able to order it its the only part im lacking to being back in the air i got some old eachine 2 foam box goggles and a beat up ol qx7 so just need the drone now

I wish Darwin fpv did some hdzero versions.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

yea, it is surprising they haven't so far.

@arQadjo

Жыл бұрын

Adding HDZERO (or Walksnail) VTX isn't difficult to Baby Ape V2 like V1, where you have to add 2mm spacers to the top plate to get enough space for digital camera.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@arQadjo good real world experience here. Thank you

@simonholmes3456

Жыл бұрын

Which HDzero VtX would be best suited for this size whip? I’ve just bought a used receiver and plan to convert this drone to HD, any help would be appreciated.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@simonholmes3456 We would need to use the whoop board as the 1watt would be to large.

Hi Nick Great video and review of the Darwin 3.5in Baby ape. I have thought of getting another Darwin, I have had good luck with my old 3in baby ape, thanks again for the video and information about this quad.

Awesome flying and review, Nick! 😃 I was talking about FPV with a friend, he mentioned he wanted to try it. And then you posted this video. 😂 I just sent him the link! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

Excellent video, excellent flying. Great to get the full experience of this little guy.

Oh Mr. Burns.....(Excellent) ....I saw the way you came out of the corner of your house over the pool. The day you toss a quad into the pool is the day you will see me LMFAO. And that's not wishing you actually do it, but I see the hazard, and no doubt you do too lol. Then again, what's $150 these days? You'll always be my favourite pilot even though I'm into bigger stuff. (actually my wall has toy whoop/toothpick to 7") It's your easy manner and allowing us into your space that makes me watch. Always a fan, Mark.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

I mainly fly with the pool cover on. It has an "auto" cover. It is motorized and has a switch to bring it out or back off. The switch is behind a lock as well, so the kids can't open the pool without a parent. I have put one quad in the pool during a slow flight about a year ago. It was running frsky and fail safed, bounced off the cement and plunked right into the pool....dead. thank you for the kind words and even coming back to the channel as your interests are in the bigger quads. Much appreciated.

Oh, yeah, ordered one today! As well as a Runcam Phoenix. I love Darwin quads for the $ but I have to change the camera every time I buy one. I have a bag full of them, lol.

Captain Crash A lot 😂😂😂 great video Nick it looks like it'll be fun to fly

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

Yep, sometimes I just stink other times...like the camera fov keeps me from being comfortable.

I can tell by your tone and review it's a candidate for your next giveaway 🤣 Cheers Nick!

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

lol, yea, not one I would keep. To big without a standout feature that I don't already have covered/

looks a lot of fun. I am a complete noob and made the mistake of buying a IFlight Nazgul Eco as first fpv drone. I figure I need to practice on something smaller and less powerful first so I ordered a Babyape pro v2, Crux35, betafpv goggles and a Radiomaster pocket controller. can't wait. Do you recommend just cruising around some in angle mode before flying in acro?

Got the original Baby Ape Pro. Can't say I've flown it much, I was still really new at the time. Drove me nuts that the original motors didn't have standard motor screw holes or that the top screw holes didn't match up to T mount props. The goofy front end camera cage is steering me clear of this one, I think I saw that the arm are in a V shape, so if you bust one, you rplace two with one piece (Correct me if I'm wrong on this one). Thanks for the vid, even with that goofy FOV, you still managed to shred the backyard. Cheers!

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

I think the baby ape pro had the wishbone style of arms. I don't think this one does but I would need to disassemble to be sure.

@amin0_acid310

Жыл бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV I sit corrected, Original Baby Ape had seperate arms, the Pro had wishbones. One more strike against my Ape pro I guess lol.

Love the video!! Excellent content!!! very detailed specs as usual. Thanks for reviewing the budgetish quad.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

@justinkelch4837

Жыл бұрын

​@NickBurnsFPV how do you like the zorro compared to the tx12?

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@justinkelch4837 I sum it up as the zorro is my daily. I prefer the game style radios over square, even small square isn't as comfortable to me.

I see your vtx is mounted in the bottom. did it come like that? And, since it's a 3 hole vtx, does the third hole in the back screw into the frame for you?

thank you for all your videos! is there any good way to mount something like the runcam 4k? i would believe its quite difficult because the batteryconnector is so far in the front

@NickBurnsFPV

2 ай бұрын

It doesn't come ready for an external camera, like many things in FPV we would have to DIY(3d print) a solution with a gap for the battery connector.

It looks it has 16:9 camera better for box goggles, on 4:3 screen the view is squished horizontally

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

oh interesting point. I hadn't noticed that aspect of the fov.

Im guessing its a micro size camera and could you swap out the lens for a wider field of view. Cool looking frame cheers

Thank you for the great information

GE Silicone clear caulking holds 800 mW vtx and antenna mast securely neatly flat on top .

Love my baby ape, after I swapped out the junk camera.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

I am hearing a lot of this on that quad. Surely this camera and it’s case cost them more than a bulk buy of some mid range modern camera

Hmmm. I may be the only person in the community who hasn't gone digital but why would they put the power connector right where you'd want to mount your HD camera (i.e. Go2)?

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

yea, that does create a bit of a nest of wires.

That camera Fov might actually be ok for some fixed wings. For longer range cruiser wings a slightly pointed down cam with a narrow fov can be a good setup

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

I don’t have any recent fixed wing experience, that fov might be useful. On wings is it common to have another external hd camera to record?

@Rocketman0407

22 күн бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV yes many will put a GoPro or similar on their fixed wings or rc planes for digital hd footage and use a analog for video feed, just like with quads.

Please do not underestimate old-style buzzer. It can save your drone cause is much more loud than motor beepers.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

yep, especially if your out flying a micro in a large space.

@yohfpv

Жыл бұрын

Using an old-school buzzer on my micro allows me to fly forest paths with thick foliage without a worry. Its wonderful not stressing about losing the thing in the bush.

Old school quads have buzzers? New quads don’t? Seems like i’ve missed something 🤔

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

well not many of our modern day micros have buzzers, or at least I am not remembering many recently with them. We used to have them pretty consistently 4+ years ago. Micros can be hard to find in the grass :)

i love those little foxeer lolipops, i use them on my 2s fractal 75 build and they get so much cleaner video than the lil dipoles. totally worth the extra weight

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

do you have issues with them breaking? I think this is the second one I have broken

@cowfangirl420

Жыл бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV i had a few of the older ones break but never issues with the newer ones

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@cowfangirl420 I do think mine is a bit older. Thank you

It looks like you need more camera angle or more battery weight. Seems like it was climbing under acceleration more than desirable.

So do you think I should buy the very first baby ape or this one? It seems like you pointed out a lot of bad things that happened with it. What all is better?

@NickBurnsFPV

29 күн бұрын

sorry, this was a year ago I don't recall anything specific

Hey Nick, another great vid! I have the original Baby Ape and it shreds. Love that lil thing. I have a question tho. I got an extra Walksnail Nano on the bench and wanted to know what (if any) mods I would need to convert this baby over. Thx on advance!

Can you install a walksnail vtx and those the flight controller have a 9v pad

@NickBurnsFPV

7 ай бұрын

I don't see a 9v pad. Normally on HD vtx a 5v pad is sufficient or wire it to battery voltage.

Did the antenna come pre installed and was there a big difference between 650 and 850 batteries?

@NickBurnsFPV

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately those are details I can't remember from 10 months ago.

If I want to convert this to Walksnail digital, should I choose the 14mm or the 19m camera?

@NickBurnsFPV

20 күн бұрын

Depends which walksnail camera you plan to use. The product page for the camera will list the width. We should match that

I just got the cineape 25 and I absolutely love it! On an 850 it flys on rails!!!!! However I'm a little upset that this is a v2 and is worse than the v1 smh.....

I ordered crux35. So I thought I might waited for this one. But at the end, I think it is still better

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

yes. I prefer the crux35 as well.

Can someone please let me know what else I need to buy other than the Baby Ape pro to get started? None of the sites make it easy to understand. If there was a starter kit I'd be interested. Also do I need a windows PC? Only have a Chromebook and android phone

What battery and charger do you recommend for this drone?

Great fly as usual, can you tell the link where you bought that antenna, I have the same drone, I just want to upgraded the antenna for better signal And one last question I used the drone right away when it arrived without the sd card, is needed to use the black box? For better performance? Or it doesn’t makes difference

@NickBurnsFPV

6 ай бұрын

blackbox doesn't have any impact on performance, it is flight characteristics that can be used to pid tune or use the gyro data to use something like gyroflow to improve the video stabilization for an external hd camera. the antenna is the foxeer lolipop, pretty widely available at fpv shops.

Can you use o3 with this drone? Will it have enought power?

@NickBurnsFPV

3 ай бұрын

Not certain, they have a version with the link which is the old version of the dji video system. With that I presume it could take an O3

Sorry for the next question🫣 but which lipo do you use for this drone? Darwin recommend in 4s a 850mah lipo… is it more fun to have a 4s 1000mah or 1200mah or is the weight to much than😵‍💫👀

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

the batteries I use are always shown in the video with weights. Adding more battery weight won't always increase flight time but will decrease agility and top end performance.

Hey nick could you print me just a camera holder for my CINEAPE25 I don't use external cameras and I would love to cut the weight

hi nick I'm super happy with your videos they've helped me a lot I fly with darwinfpv baby ape pro also I want to hear you I've looked at darwinfpv 2 freestyle or darwinfpv cineape25 I'm not very good at freestyle right now but if you could recommend one of them what should it be or would you recommend another in the same price class greetings Kim

The Caddx Baby Ratel V2 would be a good upgrade. Better than an Ant, and it won't break your budget.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

yes this is true. Last I bought the baby ratel they were only $25.

@billmcdonald4335

Жыл бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV Mine was CDN$36; bought it earlier this month. Much better than the Ant, especially in low light.

So compared to the original baby ape pro which one did u prefer overall more? I notice also from this video it seems like the arm replacement is more difficult than the original pro’s 2 arm replacement design less screws to get to replacing the arms. Also your video of you saying your not flying well still impressed my newbie self 😂

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I haven't flown the babyape pro. I did fly the babyape 3 which appears very close to the BA pro. I prefer the babyape3, but the flight time is longer on the BA II

@Monkey_D_Cluffy

Жыл бұрын

That made my decision better :) the BA pro it is lol

How does this compare to the smart35? The baby ape pro didn’t have the lift or inertia to fling it high. Wasn’t as fun for freestyle.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

For much inertia we need weight and thrust. This doesn't have the weight to fling over objects very far.

What is the max camera angle?

Can fly with full gopro sir ?

@NickBurnsFPV

2 ай бұрын

yes, but it will not be nearly as agile as in this video and you will need to design or create a mount.

@yudhaintishar7972

2 ай бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks sir, use full gopro for cinematic only i think hahaha, not freestyle 😁

@NickBurnsFPV

2 ай бұрын

@@yudhaintishar7972 yes that flight style would be appropriate.

@yudhaintishar7972

2 ай бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV oke, thankyou sir

What kind of caddx ant did you use for the comparison

@NickBurnsFPV

8 ай бұрын

Can you reference a moment in the video? I really don't recall the comparison aspect

@fpvStatic

8 ай бұрын

@NickBurnsFPV the part where you are showing the darwin cam on the left and the cadaxx ant you have on the right side. You are talking about how you prefer the fov of the cadaxx and I would as well

@NickBurnsFPV

8 ай бұрын

@@fpvStatic ah gotach. Yes that is the standard caddx ant, it has the mounting screw holes. It is in a different drone though.

I tried Darwin FPV once and my drone caught fire 🔥 after 5 flights. Never again will I buy from them. Baby ape pro running a 3s 550.mah lipo

The Darwin babyape should come with 3D printed Motor Protectors. then the Quad would be level with that 3-D print antenna holder, So not Good Darwin Fpv!

Hi Nick! Despite the camera that's some decent freestyle. I was wondering if the hdzero freestyle v2 would fit in the back of the frame?

@NickBurnsFPV

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I no longer have this one, I do regular giveaways. I can't be sure it will mount with creativity and the bottom plate slots, at best it would be a maybe.

@airdevil21

7 ай бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV ah that's difficult to measure then : ) I was thinking because HDZERO has now on their website the happymodel crux35 with the freestyle v2 vtx in it for sale so I thought maybe it will fit this Darwin too. Maybe I can find something on the Darwin website. This frame has replaceable arms right?

@NickBurnsFPV

7 ай бұрын

@@airdevil21 yes. the crux35 has a taller body that likely allows the v2 freestyle to be mounted.

@airdevil21

7 ай бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPVaha oke. Thank you.

Hi Nick! Is it possible to install "RunCam Phoenix 2 Nano" or "RunCam Nano 4" on it?

@NickBurnsFPV

9 ай бұрын

as long as its a 14mm wide camera yes it will likely mount normally.

I just bought this can you recommend a direct replacement camera that would fit? Thank you!

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

any 19mm x 19mm camera should work. Something like the caddx ratel 2.

Great review video. 👍🤓

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I wanna wash this drone! xD

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

what do you mean. The grass bath didn't work :)

i order the babe ape pro v2 but they have not shipped yet so i am thinking maybe i should order this new one what do u think ???

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

they fly fairly similarly. I thin the ap v2 will mount an external hd camera better. But if I recall correctly the 3.5inch version flies longer.

Any feel difference between these 1504 and 1404? I don’t like my 3.5’’ with 1404. I feel it lacks pop ands wondered whether 1504 could be a good size for such props? Also, and I might have missed it, did you weight the drone?

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

1404 is much more of a cruiser motor than 1404...at least on three inch props. Especially if we are running 3inch triblades a 1404 doesn't enough to handle that prop well.

@yohfpv

Жыл бұрын

1404 is more suitable for a smaller 2.5" quad if you have a love of power 🙂

How does the babyape v2 compare to the Crux35 v2?

@NickBurnsFPV

11 ай бұрын

crux35 is more capable of longer and more aggressive flight

Is this good for complete beginners

@NickBurnsFPV

10 ай бұрын

I would go smaller unless you have a big space you plan to fly primarily in. 3.5 is pretty quick for starting out, we would likely need more space.

Is the baby ape 2 better than the baby ape pro v2

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

better is hard to determine. Depends on what your looking for

@zombizh4191

Жыл бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV well i have a betafpv cetus x for beginning and my dad get the baby ape pro v2. I flow the pro v2 twice and looking for the pro v2 as well or buy the baby ape 2. Only use for fun with a little bit freestyle…

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@zombizh4191If I recall correctly the version 2 is bigger with bigger props. With that it likely flies longer on the same capacity battery and should have more top end speed/thrust

Do the foam pads go on the arms ???

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

It came with the foam pad on the rear.

@johnkurpiewski3996

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh I see. They do look a little big for the arms. But I love those foams on the arms , and a wrap of your favorite tape keeps them on even in the worst of scraps . I put them on all my quads .

Does someone know how to mount Runcam thumb on it?

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

probably have to design a 3d print or find one on printable.com or thingiverse.com

@FregoUA

Жыл бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV DarwinFpv support told me same :(

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@FregoUA I do wish these companies would design quads with an assortment of external camera mounts. I guess they are depending on the community to take up that task. A company could bolster their brand if they were to do it. Or at least I think it would bolster the brand.

Hopefully these motors will be slightly more resilient than the babyape 3 motors.. I broke those if i looked at them the wrong way

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

I have heard the shafts are breaking is that what broke on yours as well?

@MoeFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV I had 1 broken shaft and 2 motors that I must have damaged the bell on. They stopped spinning but ESC was fine. Pretty minor crashes too. Otherwise, I enjoyed the drone but that was ultimately why I stopped flying it.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@MoeFPV Gotcha. Thank you for that information

This or crux 35?

Is the 4s faster then the baby ape on 3s

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

outright faster?? Yes 3.5inch on 4s is going to be faster.

ATE7456E is the OSD chip and they still haven't shipped my quad :( Have the camera though!

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand the correlation between the osd chip and the quad shipping?

@jwhitaker81

Жыл бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV I commented that I bought one the day your review came out earlier in the comments. Sorry for the confusion. Good review Nick!

@jwhitaker81

Жыл бұрын

Like right below this comment, 4 days ago, lol. Nothing at you Nick.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@jwhitaker81 ah gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

Can i put a 4s 1800mah battery on it?

@NickBurnsFPV

10 ай бұрын

That is an awfully big battery for a 3.5 propped quad. Will it fly…probably. Will it fly very long…probably not as long as a 1100mah. How will it fly…probably like a boat

@coystycretzu1795

10 ай бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV tnx

would you rather choose this or the crux35 to fly?

@lemonsquareFPV

Жыл бұрын

Crux35 is really fun and agile, one of my first quads, and it was a very good choice on my part! Also really great support from Happymodel, I have had nothing but the best communication with them!!! Absolutely amazing company to work with and I even consider them friends. But be ready to change the frame (the hole placement for the 25.5mm layout really kills the arm durability)… you’ll break it in the the first decent crash, though it did actually take me a while and quite a few crashes. I have had really good experience with the “Recursion Labs” (check his KZread channel too!!! Great fun science content!) “Scythe” that you can get from cncdrones. The “AOS 3.5” is also okay if you want something with replaceable arms, but you really can’t beat the Scythe, it’s lighter yet significantly stronger than the Happymodel frame, and keeps the original simplicity and agility. The AOS frame is better for a heavier scratch build.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

I too prefer the crux35, that one is a fun rocket with really good flight time as well.

@FERNANDOPR_FPV

Жыл бұрын

@@lemonsquareFPV okey, so if I would want to switch the cruz35 components to a another frame, what frame would be great to suit for the components?

@lemonsquareFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@FERNANDOPR_FPV the “Recursion Labs” “Scythe” from “cncdrones” is by far my favourite… but it depends what you have available to you and where you order stuff from. Ordering from Canada may not be the best for everyone… but I do have friends from all around the world that order from cncdrones… but can’t know every situation… If you can’t order from cncdrones, let me know where you normally shop, and I can help you make a decision if you need further help.

Just from watching this video, something seems a bit wonky about the way this thing flies.

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

It could be me as well. I didn’t feel like I adjusted to the camera fov. For me to be certain I would need to swap the camera to one I know I can fly adequately.

Cheap recycled motors. Wow they put bolts in these props! Not push on props and hope they don't come off. I rate this as a throw away drone after 2 weeks! Spend your money on something of better quality!

@justinlinty

Жыл бұрын

can you offer a better choice for 140$? if so link the parts please

@Monkey_D_Cluffy

Жыл бұрын

@@justinlinty a tinywhoop that’s about it lol.

@hehaheadshot97

Жыл бұрын

@@justinlinty $140 gets you a Mobula7 1s ELRS, a Fractal 75 frame kit, and BT2.0 connectors.

@simonholmes3456

Жыл бұрын

Cheap and cheerful!

@Monkey_D_Cluffy

Жыл бұрын

@@hehaheadshot97 that’s a whoop not a 3” or 3.5”

sd card for blackbox!!

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

that is does

like for the video but i will not give a penny more to Darwinfpv as 2 quads died on me in the first week of use last year lol

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

oh man that stinks. What were the symptoms?

@Maxim_Nub

Жыл бұрын

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah, thats for their previous baby ape pro. on the first one esc was dead after around 10 batteries, on the second one gyro started glitching and broke after around 4 batteries. no crashes at all lol thats just fyi if you ever will want to recommend this to anyone :D i heard that for a lot of people they live pretty well but i have to be really unlucky

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@Maxim_Nub It does hurt when things like this happen. Not that they should. Sorry. Hopefully the other quads you have are working well.

Idk if I missed it, but what's the mounting patterns for FC, vtx, and motors. Mostly want to know if they finally updating their motor mount pattern to accept more standard motors. I upgraded my baby ape pro's motors to iflight 1504s but had to drill put the holes a little to mount them. I would also switch out the camera to the original Ant, it definitely looks waaay better! Awesome review!! Seems like it's the normal Darwin issues and problems. Really awesome to see some of your freestyling! Sick little rip!! 🔥🤌 #Meowgow

@NickBurnsFPV

Жыл бұрын

The flight stack is 20x20 and the motors are 4 hole 9x9