"Could you explain what non random selection means" "of course I could, it's my life's work" Brilliant.

@ManMadeOfIdiot

3 жыл бұрын

The fact the host told Dawkins to keep it brief but didn't impose time limits on the religious guy to let him pull his definitions of god etc. out of his arse really questions the host's ability.

@chrisrea6841

2 жыл бұрын

@@ManMadeOfIdiot i think the host realised how passionate and eager Dawkins was to speak about evolution and he was afraid that he could be talking about it all night. That's why I think he asked him to give a relatively short answer.

@Izixster

Жыл бұрын

Also loved how he kept telling dawkins what 'most evolutionary biologists think', after showing himself extremely ignorant to the process of evolution

@glennlanham6309

Жыл бұрын

he was randomly selected by "his deity??" to participate I guess if you think Dawkins won, do you say "Thank God"??? I figured don't sneeze and I won't say "God bless you" so help me God

George Pell attempting to tell Richard Dawkins about evolution is hilarious.

@chaosbynature

5 жыл бұрын

six years in jail is plenty of time to learn about evolution.

@chaosbynature

5 жыл бұрын

@Backpacker One64 the reckless child rape of the man!

@mikeyoung7660

4 жыл бұрын

"Professor pell"

@RogerCanda

4 жыл бұрын

It is more hilarious Dawkins try to define nothing. lol

@mikenedelcu3682

4 жыл бұрын

@@RogerCanda he didn't try and define nothing. At all. He said that the answer behind how the universe was formed is simpler than trying to explain how a creator planned all existence, and how that creator came to be itself. You're a typical religious nut looking for fallacious arguments, just like the pedophile you worship.

six years in jail is plenty of time to learn about evolution.

@HarryNicNicholas

5 жыл бұрын

he'll probably just wank it away.

@Sinnbad21

4 жыл бұрын

Naw I’m thinking he will need the whole life to figure it out.

@hammer-r

4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully his cell mate will treat him like he treated the boys..😂😂😂

@mickritchie1815

4 жыл бұрын

Survival of the fittest in jail. Good luck,Pell.

@RogerCanda

4 жыл бұрын

You see how the media and the world wants to demonize the Catholic Church. But the truth will always prevail eventually. Cardinal Pell was innocent and released just recently. So all you try to slander him caught red handed. God bless you all.

Where is Hitch when you need him. He is sorely missed..

My goodness this Pell guy's arguments are a real clusterfuck! If the audience wasn't "ever in his favour" he wouldn't talk so fucking much.

the neanderthals part was just plain embarassing. It's sad when a qualified biologist has to explain something to a grown man which is taught to children in primary schools

I feel sorry for Richard here. He's talking to complete morons. I love how the audience starts clapping when the archbishop claims that "people evolved from neanderthals" when it's not even true...

@mikeyoung7660

5 жыл бұрын

Pell comes across as an arrogant tit but knows nothing, and it's blatantly obvious.

@kainable8769

5 жыл бұрын

I was told exactly the same thing in college, a liberal college from which I was kicked out of for reading my bible in the common, I never force my religious beliefs on anyone, however I always down for a debate or conversation, or things of this nature. It is commanded to spread the word of God. I am no soapbox preacher. But I have read the KJV of 1611 and the NIV cover to cover and I have also read origin of species. Personally I find Darwin’s theory wanting. I believe in micro-evolution not macro. I am an old earth, evolutionist with several twist involved. I was always told neanderthals were our cousins, but that would mean that we have a common ancestor... somewhere. And to answer the survey question, yes it makes the world better, save muslims wanting to kill jews and Jews killing who they believed a false prophet.

@AltumNovo

4 жыл бұрын

@@kainable8769 If you believe in micro evolution, where do you draw the line. Did all cats come from a common ancestor? We know all domestic dogs came from wolves, that happened in our own recorded history. If a pug and and great dane have a common ancestor less then 20,000 years ago, then why do you doubt bigger changes happened over the course of hundreds of millions of years. When all scientists are in agreement that this happened.

@RogerCanda

4 жыл бұрын

I think Cardinal Pell is deliberately make that "mistakes" just to show the audiences that it doesn't matter.

Recently I thought about wheter I could effectively engage in a atheist/theological debade, according to this video I'm pretty sure almost anyone could effectively counter anything the Pell says.

the answer to that question Pell why is there suffering? it is because of people like you

Pell genuinely doesn't know what a Neanderthal is does he....and for the record Darwin was a semi-theist, turned agnostic; "an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind" (Darwin in 1879, aged 70, three years before his death)

@peterbartley9155

4 жыл бұрын

gecko2020 everyone is ether a theist or an atheist. Agnostic is a different question. Atheism/theism is about belief. Gnostic/agnostic is about knowledge. If one is an agnostic he or she is either an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist.

Depending on the numbering in the autobiography, on the p.93 or p.94, so after saying "I deserve to be called a Theist.", he says "The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an Agnostic."

@android12921

3 жыл бұрын

Misinterpretation is a Catholic expertise

Oh dear Pell is making such a fool of himself guess he doesn’t know any better. Anyway he will have time to educate himself in jail.

I love how Richard admits he was not qualified to answer the question about the Big Bang (not being a physicist). I don't understand why George tried to explain it like he actually fully understood it. Same thing with the Neanderthal thing. You would think Richard, being the evolutionary biologist, would be more than qualified to talk about the evolution of humans, than George who acted like he knew it all. That's where ignorance comes from.

@rodmartin-nl8ns

5 ай бұрын

Think. RICHARD GOT A LOT TO LEARN

How did Pell even become a Cardinal? He just pretends to know everything.

@alavista4218

4 жыл бұрын

That's pretty much religion in a nut shell

@georgeforeman9666

4 жыл бұрын

Damn, I was going to say that.

Thank you to the uploader for well...uploading this. Good topic and the whole thing too!

I wonder how Mr. Dawkins feels about this debate today, after Pell being convicted of child abuse. I mean, how would you feel if a worthless pedophile tried to give you moral lessons!?

@chriscrocvlogs

4 жыл бұрын

you’re out of date buddy, he’s acquitted on all charges. It was a witch-hunt

@gdreyer

4 жыл бұрын

​@@chriscrocvlogs so was OJ Simpson

At least Richard Dawkins maybe able to educate Pell a tiny bit.

Thanks Samuel for the uploads

Thank you Augustin Sellanes. Brilliant piece you wrote.

Hitch would have slapped him!

AHA I knew animals have souls ....The nun that denied this and punished me as a five year old for asking, needs Pell to smack her as she did me ......creeps !!

@georgeforeman9666

4 жыл бұрын

He was to busy smacking it to little boys.

I like how the audience just claps at whatever ^^'

@Technicallyimright

4 жыл бұрын

tobbaddol too big words being used for an Australian audience.

@markfindlay8636

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are beyond ignorant!

You can clearly tell which one of the two individuals is the more intelligent one.

Love the comments the viewers are sending in

The longer Pell talks, the more he sounds as though he is on something wacky! He just wanders between mumblings with no meaning and appears to purposely go off subject. I believe I have a reasonable amount of intelligence and I am struggling to comprehend most of what he is talking about. I am aware of, at least, some of what christians believe in and I can't understand where he is going with his explanations. Imagine if I had no religious knowledge and I was listening to him. I would think he is crazy. And anyone who does what he has been jailed for cannot really have faith. That's probably why he struggles to explain or defend it.

This is too stupid for Dawkins.

First question from some young bird telling us she was a Catholic scientist

It’s very hard to argue with Pell. Pell brings you down to his level of stupidity and will beat you with experience

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." ~Lucius Annaeus Seneca

He talks about page 92 of Darwin's autobiography...but doesn't say anything about the next 2-3 pages 😂😂😂 wish I was there in the audience

Dawkins could of made it so much more awkward for him if he had pushed Pell on the end when he is obviously on a fishing expedition trying to save some face by means of gibberish, but instead lets him get away while just saying "they are real"

@android12921

3 жыл бұрын

But, it's hard to keep your argument when you talk to people utterly foolish and argue that they are clever. You just give up...

Pell seems to be thoroughly uneducated on all things containing even a smidgen of science.

yes i merely threw it in - the percentages - as it came up at the start, and you're right, no reflection on religious persuasion of party membership. agnostics a political party? lol. they ought to be. thanks. "Talk about stacking the audience." Would half theologians, half evolutionary biologists have been the correct blend? Personally i have no issue with the audience, or the phone-in questions. All this debate really means is that we continue our search for meaning, imho.

George Pell answers like an old drunk bloke sitting at the lawn bowls club with his old mates

Dawkins rules

Because such assumptions don't take into consideration that time isn't linear which many scientists don't believe

George is very good at not answering questions.

kind of insane that he can get up there and have no fckin idea what hes talking about

Pretty sad that he had the nerve to try to take the moral high ground.

How do we know right now that all humans are the same species?

Just inviting a priest show how little "we" have progressed.. They had philosophers 2000 years ago that could beat any priest in any debate today for a reason, probably even longer ago.

Cardenal pen, is in a australian prison now 2020. He was charged with rape and abuse of two school boys in his charge. At least the law got him, unlike many others who managed to disappear within the rc church abroard.

@garethhanby

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, we all know that. But it has nothing to do with his argument. Why his argument fails is irrelevant to his crimes and incarceration.

@versioncity1

4 жыл бұрын

But God will forgive him. Good isn't it.

lol we desceded from neanderthals

There are tons of ruins left in south africa....its suposed to be over 50.000 years old!

Darwin's contemporary Alfred Russel Wallace was an interesting fellow too.

Shout out to @11:17 guy. A true hero of our time

7 years

Pell dodges the questions and consistently strays off topic. Dawkins is being clear, easy to understand, and direct. And the studio audience only makes Dawkins seem like the better guy for not walking out and putting up with their laughing and interruptions, they're just rude to him. I'd be pissed.

* which many scientists do believe

My God, A Cardinal that can't defend his faith.

George dodged the Original sin question

I’ve just watched this video and have watched dozens of similar videos. As a non intellectual man, but a reasonably intelligent man who has benefited from a very good education and most crucially, a man who has learned to question everything and think for myself, I can only conclude that religion breeds ignorance. How can you hope to conduct an intelligent conversation with ignorant people who clearly can’t see the wood for the trees! I raise my cap to Richard Dawkins for his valiant effort.

Lol all the comments critiquing the 'Australian audience' because they are clapping pells comments, don't they REALISE that they are only part of the audience and were there to support pell. The network doesn't stop certain people attending the show. Dawkins had his supporters also, maybe not as many considering that Australia has more Catholic than atheist

The purpose of something is an opinion which varies as with perspective. The cardinal, I think, is trying to assert that everything has a specific purpose so he can then put forward the idea that the purpose must have been assigned by something in existence before all other matter which he will then say can only be God. Even if things did have an assigned purpose (which seems I think an absurd idea) then a good scientist could still argue that God isn't necessarily that assigner of purpose...

First Pell says that early Hominids didn't have a soul...then ALL animals have a soul...or a principle of Life...

Moses said. There was no Moses, even educated Xian’s know that.

@Abr022575

4 жыл бұрын

Moses may have been a composite figure or he may be actual/historical. We don't really know.

@jimtruscott5670

4 жыл бұрын

Dale Chawkins Moses was a composite figure, not a single actual individual, not historic.

You do not have to believe. You have to know considering you have limits in capacity. For religious men only god can save us. All we can do is seat and wait what he had promised to do: to come on the clouds and repair everything. But how different was if "god" is inside all of us?

Other priests might think he is.

Well Dell's in he'll now.

See, this is what happens to schools when you hand out all these accommodations and water down the educational standards. They turn out like the Pell's in the world. How sad is his lack of understanding of the English language? He has such a poor vocabulary.

@Abr022575

4 жыл бұрын

He's rather old. Cognitive decline

George Pell is the missing link of evolution!

i don't believe it, not a word of it..... but if it weren't for so many recreational drug users in society in general, dealers would be clean out of business. :) Instead the trade thrives....... why do people, particularly young people, need rec drugs to occupy their time?

George Pell. The Sarah Palin of the catholic church

I find watching this "debate" ( "discussion"?) frustrating. To have a philosophic discussion involving such words as "God" or "atheism", doesn't one have to define ones terms? So, the moderator is supposed to keep the debate/discussion undercontrol, by seeing there are intelligent definitions. But it seems this is on T.V., so the purpose is entertainment. So, is a discussion about God a metaphysical discussion? How does the question imping on persons in their struggle to live with pain and uncertainty,? Doesn't one have to assume human beings search for meaning in their lives, so God talk has something to do with such a search?

And he has worked with ants for years😂

Hitchens would carve him up.....Richard is too polite

Like a adult talking to a kid

Professor Dawkins is far too erudite and polite to annihilate the spurious responses of his woefully inadequate ‘opponent’- greatly to his credit but what a shame!

ALP 31%; Coalition 47%; Greens 13%; Agnostics 8%.

Return George Pell ‘ honour please . Because not enough evidences only testimony if the court decide this case is correct so in the future someone can accuse someone before the court by his words without evidences . Although the situation is not comfortable to reason and sentiment like George Pell ‘ case.

@fifthape2119

4 жыл бұрын

Thukim Tran www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/21/cardinal-george-pells-conviction-for-child-sexual-abuse-upheld Damning evidence against Cardinal George Pell | 60 Minutes Australia kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXWOz9qkoMvKp7g.html www.democracynow.org/2019/3/13/headlines/cardinal_pell_sentenced_to_6_years_for_sexually_abusing_boys www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/world/australia/george-pell-sentence.html Not enough evidence? Obviously there is. Just be glad that you weren't one of his victims.

Good and bad people existed before religion was invented.

is this Pell guy high or something? He can't seem to string a coherent sentence together.

whoa.. that scientist was beautiful...

Pell was not wrong. Neanderthals would be one subspecies we may have descended from.

Pell has resorted to condescending blabbering.

l don't understand Dawkins when he explains life and religion

Religious zealots are like politicians......all bluff and no substance. George......I wonder how compelling the evidence against you must have been in order to find you guilty. The public will never know. But I guess that was devil making you do those things?

Everything is subject to scientific investigation including the question of gods and other claimed supernatural claims.

"What we know by FAITH and what we learn by REASON cannot be in conflict." - St. Augustine of Hippo, Church Father (354AD.) Historically, the Catholic Church has often been a patron of sciences. It has been prolific in the foundation and funding of schools, universities, and hospitals, and many clergy have been active in the sciences. Historians of science such as Pierre Duhem credit medieval Catholic mathematicians and philosophers such as John Buridan, Nicole Oresme, and Roger Bacon as the founders of modern science. Duhem found "the mechanics and physics, of which modern times are justifiably proud, to proceed by an uninterrupted series of scarcely perceptible improvements from doctrines professed in the heart of the medieval schools." Catholic scientists, both religious and lay, have led scientific discovery in many fields. From ancient times, Christian emphasis on practical charity gave rise to the development of systematic nursing and hospitals and the Church remains the single largest private provider of medical care and research facilities in the world. Following the Fall of Rome, monasteries and convents remained bastions of scholarship in Western Europe and clergymen were the leading scholars of the age - studying nature, mathematics, and the motion of the stars. During the Middle Ages, the Church founded Europe's first universities, producing scholars like Robert Grosseteste, Albert the Great, Roger Bacon, and Thomas Aquinas, who helped establish the scientific method. During this period, the Church was also a major patron of engineering for the construction of elaborate cathedrals. Since the Renaissance, Catholic scientists have been credited as fathers of a diverse range of scientific fields: Nicolaus Copernicus (1473-1543) pioneered heliocentrism, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) prefigured the theory of evolution with Lamarckism, Friar Gregor Mendel (1822-1884) pioneered genetics, and Fr Georges Lemaître (1894-1966) proposed the Big Bang cosmological model, he is the Father of Big Bang Theory. The Jesuits have been particularly active, notably in astronomy. Church patronage of sciences continues through institutions like the Pontifical Academy of Sciences (a successor to the Accademia dei Lincei of 1603) and Vatican Observatory (a successor to the Gregorian Observatory of 1580). As the world's oldest and largest continuously functioning international institution, it has played a prominent role in shaping the history and development of Western civilization we now know today. The Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of education and medical services in the world. The Catholic Church manages 26% of health care facilities in the world, including tens of thousand hospitals, clinics, orphanages, pharmacies and centers for those with leprosy. The church has always been involved in education, since the founding of the first universities of Europe. It runs and sponsors tens of thousand of primary and secondary schools, colleges and universities throughout the world and operates the world's largest non-governmental school system. In the words of J. L. Heilbron of the University of California, Berkeley, the "Roman Catholic Church gave more financial aid and social support to the study of astronomy over six centuries, from the recovery of ancient learning during the late Middle Ages into the Enlightenment, than any other, and all other institutions." This financial and social support extended also to other branches of scientific inquiry. The Church is patron of Learnings and Social Services for almost 2000 yrs.

Pell showed himself up to be a non serious individual but with enough conceit to think he was equal to Dawkins

I wonder what he thinks now that Australia is burnt to a crisp. Someone should write him a letter, anyone know what prison hes in😂

@versioncity1

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe it was God showing his wrath at cardinal Pells sexual proclivities

@SCHEY101

4 жыл бұрын

God thinks Pel should be able to bugger as many choir boys as he wants. It's a Catholic tradition. That's why he punished Australia.

Is he as good looking as Sarah?

Religion came to be based on how people observed the creatures and creations around them, the intelligence of their design and order of things. All these they attribute to a Divine Creator, We call God. People call God by different names and worship him in different ways based on how they observe things. Scientists nowadays, in their ultimate brilliance, try to disprove God. However, until man can provide an irrevocable evidence that Something can come out of Nothing to design an intelligent being and replicate the order of things that we have in the universe today, only then can Man drop the notion of GOD.

@SCHEY101

4 жыл бұрын

Science can't prove there is no creator, it's just obvious that the 3 main religion's are man made.

Science and Faith should be the same thing really, Science continues to battle for evidence based truth and the faith should be in it to do so. Eventually we will get there and non fact based beliefs of gods and such will cease to exist.

@031767sc

2 жыл бұрын

thank god....

PAGE 92...CHECKMATE

@versioncity1

3 жыл бұрын

lol, it's not even a good move.

We are apes. We are not evolved from apes.

pell likes this word sophisticated, it actually means to contaminate something that was pure, not imbue with intelligence. hang on a minute, god gives us a soul? god doesn't give us a soul? which is it? science would like to understand at what point we became "humans", and if a soul does exist we need to know at what point we got it, ie, when did god (?) decide "this new lot gets a soul", even if god exists he does the most illogical crap. what does god want, cos there are easier ways to achieve it than setting this lot of monkeys off on a ride with no map.

Pell is use to talking to the uninformed

At least with science you can call bullshit, but with religion......lol

he has never read a book

@7:25 - the moment he realizes he's spewing bullshit

Cardinal was fire

@Archmagos_Faber

9 ай бұрын

you mean on fire, now, cause he is in hell, for protecting pedophiles in the catholic church.

Like Wow. If Adam and Eve is just a story and not literally true then the WHOLE Christian religion crumbles. There is no Original Sin meaning there was no need for Jesus to be sacrificed. As an atheist I'm very surprised to hear a Catholic cardinal admit to that so nonchalantly like it doesn't hold the weight of it religion on its shoulders.

@smokeybirdman

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Many Christians don't really believe in Adam and Eve and true it does negate the need for Jesus.

Yes indeed his ignorance comes from him thinking he knows everything. Not mind you l that Pell has had an original thought . It's all about faith. The world is better without religion and especially without the likes of George Pell and his anti- Semitic stance.G'day 😊😢

Pell is a professional lies, he makes a living deceiving people out of their money. Dawkins what are you doing talking to this fool ?

Cardinal pell is not grounded to the sound biblical truth.

The audience speak like they're reading a script, everything so staged.

Who says #evolution is a gradual process. I see in #Afghanistan girls are getting shorter day by day.

in some ways I wish they would take this and any doc. that pell is in. the cho mo pell. the real pell. as long as we can remind everybody what that piece of garbage is. t.y.

What a pompous fellow is George ..he's a 2 yr old playing checkers with a chess grand master .. maybe is an heavenly afterlife ..I think not .. anyway ..de mortuis nil nisi bonum