Finland built a lot of aparment blocks with 3 or 4 person lifts. Basically every apartment block built before the other half of 90's has a very small lift shaft, so Kone MaxiSpaces (PowerDiscs) and NanoSpaces (with a EcoReel motor) are very common.

There are two variants of KONE PowerDisc motor, the GMX1 and the GMX2. The GMX1 has that weird looking gray metal skin that you most commonly see on a PowerDisc and they can be in a Motor Room or without. The GMX2 is smaller than the GMX1 but they operate similarly and the GMX2 exposes the magnetic disc but the GMX2 can only be used in a Motor Room.

finally the mystery of the PowerDisc got solved! 💪👍😜

In Estonia I have found 2 buildings with KONE NanoSpaces. Also made a video

It looks very mechanically interesting. I have no clue how it's set up, but hey, still is cool!

Ugh... MaxiSpace... I have bad memories replacing the ropes on these abominations...

@benolifts

10 ай бұрын

What has happened when replacing the cables. Must take a long time because of all the wheels on the 10:1 on both the suspended lift and the under wrap

@BenDeSwert666

10 ай бұрын

It's a very specific procedure. You have to hang the car with its roof on the top floor. Each rope has 6 strands. You have to separate those strands for about 30cm and cut 3 of them. You do the same with the new ropes, and weave them into each other. Then release the brakes on the motor, and you pull the new ropes with the old, all at the same time. It's a very intensive job. It took 3 of us, 3 whole days to do it for an 8 stop. These ropes are extremely tough, but also fragile when misused. They usually get damaged when inspection tests the overspeed governor, and the rope slacks in the shaft. When they try to re tension them, they can get snagged on stuff in the shaft. when that happens they get damaged and need to be replaced. Water damage is also a culprit. In this case, a whole lot of the pulleys need to be replaced too, and since there's 1 bundle that goes from the pit all the wah up to the motor, with a bit of bad luck your motor needs to be replaced too, as the ropes take the water with them damaging the motor.. It's a great product, on paper... In reality: extremely fragile.@@benolifts

In marketing this model is known as MaxiSpace

@benolifts

10 ай бұрын

I can't stand Kone's weird "space" names. While the powerdisc/maxispace is a model of its own right, I would argue the monospace, monogoods, transys and minispace are not actually different models. They are just lift packages of different configurations of the same equipment.

@QuarioQuario54321

10 ай бұрын

@@benoliftsIn the US meanwhile they only have Monospace and Minispace and the main difference there is that monospace is MRL while minispace is a normal traction. Powerdisc was seemingly never made in the US. There's also apparently a smaller 6:1 powerdisc.

@DJSpinSter2004

9 ай бұрын

@@QuarioQuario54321 The US also has the Ecospace, literally just a Monospace that runs at 150FPM (or I believe 200) at most.

I've still yet to find a PowerDisc for myself

This looks like an installation nightmare lol

Hard to find powerdisc lifts

I do think that Kone Powerdisc in most lifts are reliable and are kind of easy to replace I think if a lift breaks down. Or is it difficult to replace these disks if a lift is out of action.

@ukraineball953

7 ай бұрын

So this means in theory the power disc could do 5m/s using a counterweight in 2 to 1?

i miss the wheelie bin is hungry series :(

En France Maxi space KDL 16 R GMX

can gif me a top 10 Kone best elevators?

Thats such a weird Setup for a PowerDisc Comparing to a ecodisc (Keep up the great work)

What is the best version Kone elevator with safety, Cromford and easy to repair?

@benolifts

10 ай бұрын

I am not sure what you mean by this. "Safety" can refer to the safety gear, safety circuit, or just whether the lift is safe in general. So I am not sure what you are referring to. As for easy to repair, get a LCE and not KCE. KCE is too new and has proprietary restrictions and the OS is bloated compared to LCE. LCE has been around a long time and loads of Chinese companies have work arounds for the proprietary restrictions. And the interface is very easy to use on LCE once you understand it. I recommend buying any of the following NMX11 with LCE (N)MX14 with LCE MX20 with LCE All of these are sold as "monospace" packages. Look at the techincle broachers on Kone's website and see what equipment you get in each monospace package. Avoid the NMX07 as it is too cheap compared to the others. You will probably have to specifically ask Kone for it to come with LCE instead of KCE.

@justintrines4522

10 ай бұрын

@@benolifts what i mean in terms safety circuit and micro electronics

@benolifts

9 ай бұрын

@@justintrines4522 The safety circuit is the same across all Kone lifts. Although the later LCE with easy bypass switches is very good and removes the risk of human error as the engineer no longer has to use bypass loops.

@justintrines4522

9 ай бұрын

Thanks.

So there is no counter ballance weight?

@benolifts

10 ай бұрын

It is counterweightless

@andrewthompsonuk1

10 ай бұрын

@@benolifts does it use regenerative braking when going down?

@benolifts

10 ай бұрын

@@andrewthompsonuk1 It would be using kinetic motor braking. All VF drives use the motor as if it is a generator and suck electricity out of it when slowing the motor down, as it would be wasteful to use electricity to slow it down. But it only counts as regenerative braking if the generated electricity is stored somewhere or put back into the grid, which doesn't normally happen with lifts.

@andrewthompsonuk1

10 ай бұрын

@@benolifts so that explains all the cooling for fins on the motor, the excess engery when going down must end up in the motor?

@benolifts

10 ай бұрын

Thats not due to the motor braking. Braking energy ends up in the VF's dissipation resistor as heat. The motor is built like that because it is 10:1. The lift goes 0.66 m/s, so the motor is going 6.6m/s. It has very fast moving parts.

Does that lift have a chasis or am i seeing wrong

@benolifts

10 ай бұрын

It has a small chassis. Although bigger top chassis than the MX06

hey austin this is guys

@twelfthmoon3323

10 ай бұрын

Hey power this is disc

@hariranormal5584

10 ай бұрын

I can't believe you're still doing this

@Hydraulic160Official

4 ай бұрын

Hey Disc, this is Eco

Second

@twelfthmoon3323

10 ай бұрын

First

@jakubukasiak2425

10 ай бұрын

​@@twelfthmoon3323Stagecoach