hey Scheib, thank you for this video, indeed no one is doing these measurements, so thank you for that :) for anyone wondering how much these bars weigh in kg: - standard 25 inch bar: 1.644 kg - light 25 inch bar: 1.162 kg a difference of 0.482 kg which is indeed 1.06 pounds 😮

You can sure tell the difference in a dull chain and a sharp one. Enjoyed it.

Hey brother thanks for taking the time to make the video! Subscribed! Just got my favorite saw!! A brand new MS462!!!

@OutsidewithScheib

2 жыл бұрын

Haven’t run a 462 yet but have a 362 not really impressed compared to the 500i

The throttle response on that saw is incredible.

That saw sounds really good with that bark box !!!

Sounds good buddy. Nothing better than the feeling of that saw pulling hard into the wood like it wants to tear it apart

Awesome Don! Sounds like my 400c. Like a dirt bike!!🤣 Will be installing my light bar soon.👍🏻👍🏻🍺

I put the 25" light bar on the 400c, and got a 28" light bar on order for the 500i. Any weight loss is a good thing! -Update: the 28" light bar came in today!

Scheib, good video, Take Care and Stay Warm 🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸

That thing sounds great!👍👍🤘🤘

Sounds like a winner!

Just bought the 291 with a light bar!!!! She's a Bad piece of machinery right there. Went thru 2 feet of oak like it was butter!!! Nice!!!😁

Hey Scheib. I put a 24 in Sugihara light weight bar on my Jonsered and it weighted a little over a pound less than the stock bar! I think a pound is a pretty good weight savings

I know a regular 28” - 3/8” bar weighs 3 lbs 14.4 oz and the ES LIGHT 28” weighs only 2 lbs 11oz. That extra 19 oz feels like a brick on the front of the saw. That 30% less is huge when you’re carrying it around for hours

Sounds great!

Cool video 👍😎

I cut timber with a 661 an 24 inch Oregon bar. Never did worry about the weight just the power. To me a pound isn't much of a difference compared to the price difference

I am thinking about the bark box for the 400c and a lite bar but that will probably be sugi or tsumra stihl lite bar is difficult to come across it seems

I love the bark box on my 462. I did the Todd Lacy tune on my 462, made a big difference. I dont know if that would work the same with the 500i though? Keep on barkin Scheib WOOOOOO. Take Care !!!

@magnumkdb44

2 жыл бұрын

What is a Todd Lacy tune?

@outdoorswiththisguy1950

2 жыл бұрын

@@magnumkdb44 Go to Whackin Axes Channel. Video name is, How t Reprogram Stihl ms 400c M Tronic system. Evens Dad, Todd Lacy shows the saw tuning itself after installing the bark box. Worked for me!!!

Hi Scheib great video man, I’m about to buy a new 361 (my first chainsaw) and I don’t know wich bar to choose between 25” or 20”… What would you choose?

How did the light bar feel? It looked like it changed the balance of the saw (for the better in my opinion). It looked like the saw with the original bar sat with the bar tip touching the ground, whereas with the light bar it sat with the rear handle on the ground. Nose heavy vs rear heavy. I think I'd like the balance between my hands better. That saw sure pulls! Dull chain or sharp she pulls! I'm looking forward to hearing how you like the Bark Box after some use. I've been thinking of getting one and maybe some new felling dogs to dress up my old saw. ( and a new MS 500i )

A pound doesn’t sound like a lot , at the end of a work day it is. Have two light bars for my ms 462. A twenty inch and a 28. They’re worth every penny. My ms 391 came with a 25 inch standard bar. 462 with the longer bar is lighter feeling than the 391.

The pound of difference can make it better for all day road side harvesting. I received my light bar yesterday for my MS311. Wonder how long the auto tune will take to get used to the Bark Box??? Have a Safe Day

I just bought a new Stihl Rollomatic ES Light to replace my original Stihl Rollomatic E Standard bar for my Stihl MS 362 C-M. I was really looking forward to adding a 30% decreased weight to an already light saw further increasing the power to weight ratio of this beast of a chain saw. So I get the new light bar and immediately weigh the bare bar on my wife’s kitchen food scale, with the light bar coming in at 32.9 ounces. So then I go to the shed and change out the new bar for the old, clean up the old bar real good, because I’m going to be weighing it on my wife’s food scale, and it comes in at 36.0 ounces, a whopping 3.1 ounces lighter, or an unimpressive 10%. Now I ask myself, why did I just pay $148, three times as much as I could have for a Standard bar, to save a mere 3.1 ounces? I was expecting the bar to be 30% lighter, which would have been about a 25 ounce bar. Stihl, you lied to me!

@OutsidewithScheib

Ай бұрын

I am sorry your disappointed in the outcome.

Let us know how you like that light weight bar..I'm running the 25 inch bar on my 362cm and my 500i finally came in and it also has the 25 inch bar..

I have a brand new yellow chain, 25 in 84 dl What's the difference?

The sound of 💪🏽💪🏽🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅..... How can you not love that sound🤘🏽... Well maybe you're neighbors lol

How is the 290 doing

The sniffling ❄️

@OutsidewithScheib

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I may have had a cold lol

Scheib, now in the next video do a side by side competition between the stock and the box. See if there is a difference or is it just sound.

Sounds nice Scheib! I need a light bar for the MS880! Just kidding. I am going to weigh it with the 25" bar and 41 inch bar. I wonder what a bark box would be like on an 880 with a 25" bar. Probably a screamer lol!

@sawsurgeon

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Craig you crazy Big Block Chainsaw operator! I’m think’n the 880 would be more of a Growler than a Screamer!😬😉 Bless’ns to ya, Tedd

Hey Sheib thanks for making this short clip! I just bought a 500i today and had to cut up a dead tree when i got home, wow! She rips! Looks like you cut weight by 17.1 oz with light bar and about 23 oz total with that bark box! Wow! Do you use a raker depth gage for checking raker height? Im going back to the dealer tomorrow and will probably get one. The sales rep recommended i buy a "2 in 1" file system from stihl he says it sharpens better than a grinder which is what i got. Thanks for sharing!

@OutsidewithScheib

7 ай бұрын

Awesome!! I use the 2 in 1 it is great.

Hell ya 🍻🤘

Definitely loader. How does it feel in the hands? Thanks for sharing Scheib

Hey Sheib, Have you noticed curling beer in the winter keeps your arms strong in the off season not cutting wood? Just curious. I tried to buy the light bar today for my 500i, but my dealer didn't have any. Where did you get your light bar? Thanks

@OutsidewithScheib

7 ай бұрын

I couldn’t find any either on of the subscribers found one contacted me and he sent it to me. I did pay him for it plus shipping. Can’t believe they are still hard to find. I’d call around to different dealers if they are relatively close.

Is it noticeable in the noise with the bark box??

👍👍

Regarding them oil ports being small, could have been the machinist screwed up and used the wrong size drill on a big run of em, im a machinist by trade and seen that happen at old shop i worked at and the new shop. And it can take a while before the issue is caught!

And I thought I love Stihl saws

I'd have thought you'd at least buy the light bar in a 28" or a 32".

Scheib, won't the saw get heated and blackened now the way the exhaust is facing? Its sound different alright tho I think I prefer stock.. the light bar looks the part on her 👍

@OutsidewithScheib

2 жыл бұрын

The exhaust exits on the same side. All this cover doses is gives it a second exhaust port kind of like dual exhaust.

@6900pilot

2 жыл бұрын

@@OutsidewithScheib ok best of luck with it. I have the same light bar on mine it's balanced nice. 👍

Thanks for sharing. After spending 1,400 on my saw I'm not sure I want to add the bark box? Not sure if long term it will hurt the saw?

@OutsidewithScheib

2 жыл бұрын

I see your point but if the saw can breath more can’t see it hurting it at all

@6900pilot

2 жыл бұрын

They run pretty good with the standard box, I'd be weary of that bark box too. Surely stihl would have it running as a good as it could out of the factory? Also I'm hearing of hardly any gains other than noise.. I guess its OK if your saw is out of warranty.

@sawsurgeon

2 жыл бұрын

@@6900pilot Indeed they do run nice as equipped. As for running as good as it can straight from Stihl, not so much. There are always gains left on the drawing board and so the Power Hungry are going to be porting and tweaking their saws. Especially those STIHL guys, am I right Scheib? LOL The BarkBox should have no effect on longevity, as the program is capable of making the proper air/fuel mixture changes to accommodate it. Now considering performance gains, there's only one way to know for certain. If you're happy with it, I'd leave well enough alone. I exclusively ran vintage muscle saws up until about 10 years ago. Some of those 80-100cc saws had no mufflers from the factory... I was soooo happy to land my L65 Husqvarna and my MS362... Evidently just in time, as my hearing is still intact! Bless'ns to ya, Tedd

@TheDriftlessHomestead

2 жыл бұрын

@@6900pilot I agree Stihl should be interested in having a hot saw from the factory.

@6900pilot

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDriftlessHomestead I think they have! If it was a thousand hp guys would still try to modify it! They run like a beast out of the box, IMHO no need if you want more go 661 or bigger.. 500i is an animal the way they are I think anyway..

Did the bark box make it a lot louder?

@OutsidewithScheib

2 жыл бұрын

It sure did

I like 👍👍🇺🇸🍺

Is my assumption right that the standard muffler has a spark arrestor as in a lot of small engines, and the bark box is just like a tin can with no spark arrestor. Cheers my friend

@OutsidewithScheib

2 жыл бұрын

Gerry the bark box takes the place of just the muffler cover which has no exhaust port. So the stock exhaust port is still there this just adds another exhaust port kind of like dual exhaust. As for spark arrestor there is one on the bark box.

Time for a beverage!

That is a saw STIHL huskies are good if you want a great saw buy Stihl...

Ones lighter than the other that's the difference

She pulls

No safety gear !!! No good for the people watching