Once you started spinning you might as well throw the zero to 60 time out the window. There's been times under 6 seconds with EcoBoost you kicked the pooch with that start.

@tamonhoward5082

Ай бұрын

Strongly agreed

@Jacob99174

Ай бұрын

Poor dog

Great demonstration !!

Great review of these trucks. Awesome job.

I'd take the Tremor

Love JB reviews! I wish we could do a redo on the acceleration tests. Many other reviewers have the standard rebel in the 6.25 range and the tremor 3.5 in the 5.5 range. Great comparison! Keep up the awesome work!

Hard part for me, with the Tremor, if you want the 360 camera, folding mirrors, upgraded stereo, heated back seats, etc., you need to get 402A and that raises the price almost $12k! Suddenly you're in Raptor territory.

@hellkitty1014

Ай бұрын

Yup. I mean they have the right idea by at least offering a lower price variant, but Tremors can get up to $80K with the bells and whistles.

@SkylarRace

Ай бұрын

No the 360 camera and 8 speaker B&O stereo are standard in Tremor. If you want 14 speaker B&O Unleashed, full leather seats with ventilation and rear heating, 4H Auto, and front axle w/ Torsen Diff then yeah you have to get 402A. I do wish they offered the front Torsen Diff as a standalone option for 401A.

@tewksburydriver8624

Ай бұрын

Do you need a heated back seat lol?

@jimmeth7748

Ай бұрын

@@tewksburydriver8624 So what if I do? And my point is, the way Ford is selling the Tremor, you cannot pick and choose options as you could in the past. Hence your choice is essentially a base model for roughly $66k or a loaded model for $79k. I've discussed it with the dealer. Love the truck, but I cannot get something in between.

@tewksburydriver8624

Ай бұрын

@@jimmeth7748 … the base model Tremor is a loaded XLT not a barebones truck in anyway. Tremors in the 401A are selling for 62-63k right now. That’s a great truck for the money. Heated back seat, pano roof, 14 speakers etc for the lariat version is imo a waste. Just my opinion of course, but it’s a truck.

You beat TFL Truck with this showdown.

Inline 6 is way better for a truck less to go wrong just like the Cummings they probably took a lot of key designs for the hurricane unfortunately no dip stick on the new motor but still a better design in my opinion.

@barrymantei7795

Ай бұрын

The inline 6 hasn't yet proven it's long term reliability, the EcoBoost has been around for a long time.

@dy8863

Ай бұрын

And the Hurricane is a closed deck design, whereas the Ecoboost is not.

I would take the Tremor

The Ram's already have blown I 6 motors showing up at dealers and they have no dip stick so we don't know if its coolant in the oil or low or no oil that has blown them up. Best to wait a few years before buying any new twin turbo motor just go ask Toyota about turbo truck reliability 😅Ford is the only one that's worked all the bugs out of them this far.

@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451

Ай бұрын

WTF is up with non dipsticks these days? I know, and electronic gauge is safer for the average driver. But why not have both, that seems safer by far.

Damn dude that cut is all the way across on the crease. Ouch - what did you do? Fend off a stabbing under that overpass?

Would like to see the 0-60 comparison with the tremor package that includes the 4 auto mode along with many other other upgrades, haven't seen a review yet against the new Ram Rebel keeping things closer to apples to apples , both nice trucks though 👍

I might have just missed this info but which ecoboost option is in the F150?

One thing thats interesting is how the ho turbo i6 on the ram makes more power than the massive 8.3L v10 in the srt10 ram. Thats insane in itself. Also how the ecoboost makes more power than the 70s 440 magnum n the raptor turbo 6 makes the same power as the big block ls6 454 (7.4L v8) from the 70 chevelle ss

@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel

Ай бұрын

The #Ram tho. wow

Start/stop was removed on many previous 22-23 F150s because of supply constraints.

I wonder what the HO will feel like compared to the SO.

The #RAM is just a whole other level. The hate from the competition is the best evidence you could ever ask for. Toyota is going through their worst engine fail in history, yet they don't even receive a fraction of the hate that the new Ram gets, because nobody is threatened by the new Toyota. Low output heavy metal truck as fast as the high output lightweight aluminum truck. And everything else hands down is better on the #Ram.

@terrarecon

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't say no one is threatened by Toyota. But their new Tundra is a dumpster fire. As an owner of an older Tundra, I have no problem admitting the truth.

Nice comparison. Both nice trucks! But, I’m beginning to doubt Fords electronics with my own 2023 here lately😬

With the F-150s, you have to disable traction control or the rev limiter will engage and reduce how fast the truck accelerates. Either way, the 2025 Rebel has a slightly faster 0-60 acceleration time.

Can we get Suburban vs Expedition (LWB) vs Grand Wagoneer vids?

Sorry to break it to you I’ve been driving ram trucks for the last 20+ years. They have been the most reliable trucks I’ve ever had some of my employees have Fords not impressed. I would take the ram hands down. It has amazing ride. Interior is kick ass and the exterior doesn’t look like, you’re ready for retirement I definitely would never buy a GM product. Damn they’re ugly most of them and Toyota right up there.

@bmf88

Ай бұрын

I was a GM guy to the core I've had nth but GMC trucks and still have a 5th gen camaro pace car I've had several vettes and wife's had 3 escalades.. bought a 5th gen Ram in 2018 when the new body 19s came out.. I was so nervous signing the paperwork that I was sick sick to my stomach because I felt like I was committing treason, I got flammed from everyone from my father to guy's I work with, needles to say about 10 guy's from work have bought Rams after seeing mine and how it's been flawless for me and I drive very hard and fast but I do maintain my cars very well me and my wife are very much gear heads. Lol 109k on my 19 5.7-Hemi Laramie Sport Blackout can't say enough about it I drag race alot and the performance of the truck has been alot better than I expected truck went 14.20 @ 101 mph 5.7-hemi 3.92 gear bone stock 2wd crew cab loaded Laramie I was more than happy amazing truck still love it till this day can't wait to see the High Outputs go against the eco-boost they better eat their Wheaties. Lol

People are complaining that you put the Ford in two wheel drive for the launch. Did the programming change since 2023 because when I put my 2023 in sport mode, it goes into four auto just like the Ram.

Some 2022 and 2023 trucks lost start/stop due to the chip shortage. I have two 23 F150s without, and a 2024 with. No way am I putting my truck through the start/stop engine lubrication pause (waiting for oil on startup), so I always disable. It will help with fuel economy, but it is not worth the starter and most importantly, extra engine wear. I will just pay for fuel.

@TheLumberJacked

Ай бұрын

Engines with start stop are designed differently than non start stop engines. They do not suffer from oil starvation on restart like some suspect, in fact they keep waaaay more oil in the top of the engine than they used to and that oil is immediately available for lubrication. It won’t negatively affect the engine. The PCV blowing into the intake sure as hell will though. That’s what I’d be more concerned about.

I have a 2025 Ram 1500 Tungsten on order. HO = Warp Speed! Ford Ecoboost is good too.

Had a Jeep Wagoneer with the Hurricane/8 speed for the last 2 weeks on a vacation trip out to UT/CO to visit the national parks. Averaged 17 MPG over 5000 miles and was not impressed with the drivetrain. Transmission would stay in 6th when cruising at 75 mph on flat ground when the temps where in the 90's. Not sure what was going on. I'd prefer the Ecoboost/10 speed powertrain.

I can't wait for RHO v Raptor (v6). I plan on getting a RHO if dealers don't do their typical markups.

@storybookfilms944

Ай бұрын

Check out Mark Dodge in Lake Charles, Louisiana… $10,000 below MSRP!

I had a ram.. now the Tremor.. ya baby…

Reliability?

Duramax next time?

Tremor for sure. Not a dodge fan at all

@AussieDazza

Ай бұрын

It is okay not to be a Dodge Fan, there is no Dodge in the video. They split into seperate brands and manufacturers nearly 15 YEARS AGO. Are you dead from the neck up ?

Tremor should get some fancier design language despite its mind blowing price tag, it should not look like a regular STX or XLT.

Straight six is smoother than V6, always...but I would not own a French truck....EVER!

@MrNismopro

Ай бұрын

French?

@christopherjb274

27 күн бұрын

He thinks because FCA merged with Peugot, a French auto maker and formed Stellantis that means that Ram trucks are now "French". The stupidity is fascinating. Stellantis is headquartered in The Netherlands, not France. Stellantis is a multi national corporation. The Ram brand is American. The trucks are made in the USA. Even GM and Ford have vehichles made outside the US and the American made vehichles are loaded with foreign parts. All automakers are like this. The toyata tundra is built in texas so is that an American truck or a Japanese truck? The truth is that even the most American made trucks have foreign equitment in them. Engines to transmissions and everything in between.

0-60 ram test on 4x4 and f150 on rwd with traction off. Best test lol

RAM took that comparison on everything but the tires. Note off road the Duratracks are superior. RAM is not the Dodge people refer to in the 80’s! They have been great trucks since 90’s.

Except the ford with have a 10 speed failure and ford will either deny warranty coverage or be on back order. That new ram looks sweet!

@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451

Ай бұрын

The ZF 8 Speed is light years better for sure. But to be fair until 2019 Ram/ Dodge only put boat anchors in their gas trucks.

@canamxmr4760

Ай бұрын

@@myauctionaddictionestatesa7451 I actually just got the new hurricane ram. Sucker has some grunt.

No dipstick in the Ram😢

@atg1338

Ай бұрын

Who cares

@ReelinTension

Ай бұрын

What you mean no dip stick? For the transmission or motor

@williamnickel8132

Ай бұрын

@@ReelinTension the motor and transmission lack a dip stick.

@ReelinTension

Ай бұрын

@@williamnickel8132 how the hell do you check oil levels

@T3merity

Ай бұрын

There's a sensor which shows your oil level on the guage cluster​@ReelinTension

Nice thing about my location is im within an hr of two black owned dealerships. B&B Ford in Barnwell, S.C. and Malcom Cunningham Chevrolet. Haven't found a Mopar dealership yet, but the way Stellantis is ruining Mopar, i dont think i would buy a new one.

7.57 0-60 is great? Isn't that what the GM HD's with the gasser get?

@lil2.74

Ай бұрын

He did a 2wd launch in the Ford, did 4wd on the Dodge. 3.5 Ecoboost is under 6 seconds every time, in 4wd.

@nathanmcdonald610

Ай бұрын

That truck would have been a lot faster if launch it in 4WD like he did the Ram. My 2011 F-150 5.0L runs quicker 0-60's than he got out of the Tremor in this test.

@garys2157

Ай бұрын

He, is at elevation so there is some power loss, that being said most EB and PB have been lower 5 second range, my Lariat 3.5 puts it in 4A when in Sport mode, guess you would call his tests more a real world of just stomping on gas.

@lil2.74

Ай бұрын

@garys2157 its not real world, it is a 2wd launch and not very good even at that. I do 5.6 in a Gen 2 6 speed Coyote Supercrew stock and regular ole All season

@garys2157

Ай бұрын

@lil2.74 I had a 2016 Coyote Screw, pretty sure mine never did 5.6, a tune, premium gas? I would consider it real world, as in just stomping on the gas, while driving, did he even say he was driving in Eco mode?

8sp trans does impact rpm in addition to the real axle ratio. The 10 spd has 2 overdrive gears. The 8spd I'm pretty sure is one.

@barrymantei7795

Ай бұрын

The 10 speed has 3 overdrive gears 7th gear is 1 to 1 ratio The 8 speed has more than 1 overdrive gear.

@justinbourgeois4685

Ай бұрын

8 speed has 2 overdrive (in pretty sure)

Tremor all day, the ecoboost been out for a long time, and there is tunning if you wanna go faster

@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel

Ай бұрын

People want the looks and comfort ride quality sound deadening and already having the speed advantage for many reasons.

@joshuaw2988

Ай бұрын

I’m betting Ford will now turn the ecoboost up to 430/440hp just so they can be ahead of Ram lol or just put them all with the high output

My 2023 Tremor has start stop feature. Love it.

@atg1338

Ай бұрын

It's not that smooth

Has anyone heard about the rams catalytic converters melting?

Why would people be upset you tested 0-60 in sport mode? If you are trying for 0 to 60 performance, I would expect no less. Testing that in eco mode makes zero sense. I think you did it right. But I’d go one step further and test in 4wd mode for a second test, why? Because that will remove the tires or tire temperature from the equation.

Wouldn't touch the ram with that new motor... recalls will be coming

@terrarecon

Ай бұрын

Because you have personally tested the new RAM engine and have signed off that recalls will be coming. As if Ford has never had recalls with new motors.

@eldiablort1461

Ай бұрын

@@terrareconthey have. That’s why we know they’re coming lol.

@christopherjb274

27 күн бұрын

The engine has been out for 2 to 3 years already in the jeep wagoneer. No major issues

Why would people be upset you tested 0-60 in sport mode? If you are trying for 0 to 60 performance, I would expect no less. Testing that in eco mode makes zero sense. I think you did it right. But I’d go one step further and test in 4wd mode for a second test, why? Because that will remove the tires or tire temperature from the equation. I recommend you standardize zero to 60 testing. Settings for the zero to sixty and location should all be the same or as similar as possible. A 4x4 zero to 60 should also be provided.

The rebel has the Ho engine 500+hp. He quoted the standard engine specs

Both suck for reliability I'm sure, but I would take the Tremor. There's no way I'm taking a first-year Dodge/stellantis ANYTHING

The Duke says, the ram barely gets better gas mileage than my f-550 Godzilla. And my truck has 4.88 gears and weighs 10,000 lb empty. Go figure. What did I teach you?

@ohioguy4326

Ай бұрын

The Hemi Rebel also got crap mileage. I think it’s the E rated tires. Lets test a standard Ram with 3.55 rears

Duratrash tires are astonishingly bad, and cannot be used off road as they pop instantly. They have mushy, thin side walls and a delicate as glass belt. What a nightmare. Mine were destroyed in no time on a Power Wagon. I would require they be changed out on my next truck.

I ordered one (Tremor) last year and was happy that I didn't have stop/start. I'm at 20.8 mpg over the last 2k miles (Coyote). I don't really like the Ford seats. I think stop/start is overrated.

JB, thanks for your review, but there are holes in your review and will provide you with some things to evenly make your reviews more pertinent. Firstly, you're putting an off-road designed truck (Rebel) against a higher optioned-out Ford F-150 Eco-Boost. There are no details with the Tremor package in this review, compared to the Rebel (which is purpose built) that make it any more an off-roader than the standard off-road F-150 4x4 variant--Tremor upgrades are all exterior/interior stitching eye candy for the most part and are not a purpose-built upgrade. Proof is in the video of the interiors of the two. Secondly, I have read every comment on this post, and most are biased towards Ford, which is expected, and I would say, you're biased toward Ford as well. That is fine as well. However, neither truck was truly tested in its aftermarket and upgraded design form. 0-60 times or mileage is not important here, but their capability. These are off-road capable trucks designed for off-roading. towing, and other utilitarian designs. Make a pertinent video of how these trucks compare in the real world on road and off-road--including the true street variants and the up-and-coming RHO vs. Raptor. vs GM offerings. This comparison is between two amazing trucks. Ford and Ram and the competition is fierce--each brings their own design and pluses, plus unique capabilities. Ram is stepping it up with Hurricane in-line 6 leaving Ford behind in interior design, ride quality, and performance (just look at truck of the year reviews)--the 3.5l V-6 Twin Turbo is great but is dated, just like the Toyota 5.7l. God Bless America, all American truck brands in this segment are awesome and I love each of them! Hope this is a helpful post!

I won’t buy an aluminum truck so would have to go Ram. Plus I’ll take an inline 6 over a V6 any day

Even with the same gear ratio and tires size, the hurricane gets worse MPG than the 5.0L Ford and 6.2L GM

@kyle1986907

Ай бұрын

And out powers both of them.

Cloth seats in nearly $80,000 trucks....

At this point in the game I'd take 3.5 ecoboost over the Hurricane. Huricane might end up like the Tundra motor. hahahahaha

People still buy Fords?

If you're going to test these trucks you need to do so consistently, it's poor form and makes you look bias when you give one vehicle an advantage over the other "in this case launching the Ford in 2WD and the Ram in 4WD". My stock other than exhaust 2011 F-150 5.0L is a high 6 to low 7 second 0-60 truck. A Modern 10-Speed Ecoboost F-150 is a sub 6 second truck 0-60. If you're going to fairly compare on mileage than you need to do so in performance as well. That blown launch on the Ecoboost cost it over a second in it's performance run.

@TRILLdUP713

Ай бұрын

You go conduct your own comparisons and post them on KZread for us.

@nathanmcdonald610

27 күн бұрын

@@TRILLdUP713 No, I don't think I will. But I'll continue to call out bullshit in comparisons like this when I see it.

RAM

Ram all the way Better styling Better interior Better reliability I’m surprised they didn’t have to end the test half way through to tow the ford to the dealer to replace the timing set Like the test between the new Shelby and the demon Mustang kept breaking down and when they finally did the race and the mustang lost they found the body was broken and falling apart . Lol kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJN-kq6vptS9ZaQ.htmlsi=jRA2DABJxEA_Oswm

@nathanmcdonald610

Ай бұрын

You might be one of the only people I've ever seen refer to a Ram as reliable.

@moonwalker8172

Ай бұрын

@@nathanmcdonald610 You people think nothing ever changes. RAMs are way more reliable than Fords. At lest the V6 and 5.7 hemi. Independent mechanic here.

@nathanmcdonald610

Ай бұрын

@@moonwalker8172 if you were an independent mechanic, then you would know how often Hemis shit out lifters…

@moonwalker8172

28 күн бұрын

@@nathanmcdonald610 Yes, some Hemi’s do have roller failures on the lifter, but it’s a small percentage. You hear of the failure because there are 10 times the number of Hemi’s on the streets.

The ram mostly sells the 3.21 axle ratio so the RPM would go down even more

@ohioguy4326

Ай бұрын

3.21 is Hemi only. The hurricane is 3.55 or 3.92

Hell of a power advantage for the Ram. With the proper tires it kills the Ford!