reliability and second-hand market depreciation, Yamaha>>>>>>>KTM

@matvill4405

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but performance, agility and fun factor, KTM>>>>>>>Yamaha

@10daysAgo

3 ай бұрын

​@@matvill4405lol the mt09 is known for being one of the most fun bikes to ever exist , that triple cylinder engine is to die for . Ride one first before commenting like an ignorant🤦

@matvill4405

3 ай бұрын

@@10daysAgo if someday you can test both bikes, as I did, you can experience that performance, agility, and fun-factor are superior in the KTM. Just as most reviews stated, take a look. The sound of the triple engine, reliability, and price are the assets of the Yamaha. 🤷‍♂

@laicaodung6558

2 ай бұрын

@@10daysAgoyou said one of the most? Yes, but Ktm is more , can the mt-10 go 300kmh?

@firehouse6226

Ай бұрын

The KTM is a bike for super high riding abilities, the Yamaha is more enjoyable for people who don't have high level track abilities.

I'd choose MT 09 anyday of the week mainly because of the sound. Plus all the bells and whistles comes as standard with Yamaha. Which is a bad move for KTM, all the extras comes with a price like c'mon.

@Drunken_Hamster

7 ай бұрын

IDK man, I'm on the fence. Every time I think triples get it, I go back to decatted 890 vids and FTR1200 Toce vids and cream. Then I go back for MT-09s with Yoshimura, RoadsItalia, Two Brothers(the modern stainless megaphone one), Black Widow, M4, or Arrow exhaust and feel like I'm insane. Triples definitely sound like more of a rush, making me feel like a Street Rossi, but the brutal sound of the 285 and 300-degree parallel (75 and 60-degree V, respectively) twins make me feel like Brock Lesner.

@MakTheSank

7 ай бұрын

you can get the MT09 SP for around the same money as the KTM also, which will have ohlins rear suspension, KYB upgraded forks, and Brembo brakes if i am not mistaken.

@exothermal.sprocket

5 ай бұрын

@@MakTheSank The WP suspension on the 990 is pretty high spec, probably greater spec than the SP kit, which isn't the advanced version of Ohlins but basic (and that is only rear shock). The Stylema Brembo calipers are a top notch upgrade for the SP.

@MakTheSank

5 ай бұрын

yeah maybe, i got the 2018 MT09 SP and the front forks are KYB and rear Ohlins. The rear is super smooth and adjustable, the front forks are awesome considering they are not ohlins my only issue are the brakes especialy the rear cause i wheelie a lot . Both bikes are one of the very best for street riding@@exothermal.sprocket

@exothermal.sprocket

5 ай бұрын

@@MakTheSank If I could have my cake and eat it too, the MT-09SP would run a 4.5 gallon tank.

The cornering, stability and agility of the KTM are far superior. The sound of the Yamaha three-cylinder makes you fall in love. Two great bikes, but for me the KTM is more precise and safer.

KTM would be the go-to if they could build bikes that are actually reliable and fucked right off with software-locking stuff that is already installed and paid for. Fuck that, never gonna support a company that does something so scummy and hope the EU regulates that ASAP

@paulhope3401

5 ай бұрын

Well said, I don't like this business model either.

Wow! What an amazing video. I've never seen one like it. Keep making more!

Awesome graphics, this a very informative and engaging video. Thanks.

When it comes to looks, I'm kinda on the fence here. MT's face looks so robotic, while Duke's headlamp looks unfinished. What do you think?

@lohchenghuat6388

7 ай бұрын

Looks wise, I'd have to give the win to the MT. But just ever so slightly. Although the new robot/Ironman face headlights isn't the most outstanding design, but if you compare it to the previous weird, quirky, some may say outright ugly "cyclops face" headlights, the new design is much more acceptable and palatable to a wider segment of riders. Meanwhile the Duke just looked like KTM took Suzuki's headlights and attached four LED bars around it and voila. Also, those cavities between the DRLs and the main lights are going to be such dirt and dust trap or worse, cob web housing if you lived at regions with harsh winter, you're inevitably going to have off season for riding and have to park you bike for a couple of months in your garage

@sajileo

7 ай бұрын

new 390 Duke face better looking than this 990

@hollydillion1315

7 ай бұрын

Personally, I love the new light the Duke has. It's stripped back and resembles an exoskeleton, kind of like Titanfall machines, all while preserving its functionality. It also saves weight which is a win-win.

@daveo9844

6 ай бұрын

Duke 😎

@exothermal.sprocket

5 ай бұрын

We can get used to anything I guess. The KTM owner will be spending more time cleaning smashed bugs out of the front of their bike.

Watching this to get an idea of the 990 rcr engine! Thank you!

As someone with a superduke with an Akra slipon who test rode a '17 fz09 with a full toce, ive been searching for that high of listening to the pops and bangs and the cp3 engine screaming ever since. Im now looking to trade for an MT10

Thats video editing is best than the official

We waiting for Street trip vs Mt 09 comparison video

So it's that 12k MSRP without including the extra perks in tech?

MT, the KTm breaks down a lot, A lot of my friends bought their KTM and regretted it, they advised me to stay away from KTM haha I followed their advise

Can u review 2024 z900?

I think there is a mistake about the weight. The duke is sligly heavier than the MT. And in France its price without the tech pack is 15k€.... more expensive than the MT in SP version with ohlins, brembo, Cornering aids and keyless. You can even add Akrapovic exhaust for the price of the 990...

@SecondGearYT

7 ай бұрын

KTM states the bike weighs 179 kg ready to go, excluding fuel. With a full tank (14.8 liters, around 11 kg), the total weight is 190 kg.

@SecondGearYT

7 ай бұрын

Classic KTM, always dancing around the specifics when it comes to revealing the weights of their bikes 😅

@siegfriedz8211

7 ай бұрын

@@SecondGearYT yeah first time i read it they also got me with that 😅 With oil and everything they weight arround same weight at the end.

@MakTheSank

7 ай бұрын

Are you sure they mean only fuel is excluded? Some companies i think italian one, leave out oil and brake fluids as well lol . @@SecondGearYT

Mt09❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Slide control is available for the KTM under track mode

KTM always charges too much. I'll keep my 23 MT09SP.

MT 09 I think it has an S 23 tire

Definitely mt09. Cos of giving every techs in every varient itself ❤ & mainly its YAMAHA BROOO😌🔥

Just SAD that ALL THE UNIQUE SELLING POINTS of the MT-09 got eliminated. In 2023, it was the last upright naked bike that people over 1.85 m (6.1feet) could still right comfortably on, that didn't look like an insect but like a Transformer and that still had a subframe/pillion footrests with luggage attachment points, as well as the option of fitting a windshield. I like every of the other Transformer light masks in the MT series better than this new one. For the GEN 3 to 2023, Givi and Shad had hard case mounts for larger cases, than on a standard GS in their linup and you could attach a large windscreen to the light mask. The subframe load capacity has been removed from the MT-10 from 2021 to 2022 and now from 2023 to 2024 for the MT-09 as well. It's a pity that none of the reviews mention this. If the display becomes so large that it protrudes forward over the light mask, you can no longer retrofit a windscreen. Who convinced the manufacturers that naked bikes have to be made for the racetrack? I've been riding an MT-09 for 30,000 kilometres in 2.5 years and love this engine. With in the commuteabilty gone, the last real UJM is unfortunately dying in my eyes.

@Milyutin53

3 ай бұрын

are you a bot? you post same post on every mt09 video. go jizz somewhere else on mt09 bud

It's as simple as my closest KTM dealership is 30 miles from my house, there are 3 Yamaha dealerships within 10 miles of my house.

KTM 990 starting price in EU atm is around 16.000€ + , with no extras at all, no quickshifter, not even electronics!!! Great bike by KTM, waaaay off on the price.

Duke 1290 vs 1390?

Duke 890 vs 990? 🙏

The best move is to get 890 duke R in second hands with all options for much lower price. The new 990 cost 15000€ without options in France versus 12800€ for the MT-09 SP.

Is it just me, or you can literally put the mt headlamp in the duke and it will fit 😭

@estroaye

7 ай бұрын

lololol literally having the same design language

@hilmiyahya3027

7 ай бұрын

@@estroaye not what i meant, but if the duke is the socket, the mt could be the bulb, like, you see its like a puzzle piece coming together lol

That demo period for extra tech on the duke is just slimy. imagine buying a bike that has all that tech onboard but the bike doesn't let you use it... its like buying shoes with laces, but you gotta pay more to tie them

Mt 09 sp vs 990 duke makes the price muuuuuuuch closer

If the ktm didn't have a scary reliability record and anti-consumer business practices, it would be more compelling.

Mt all day

If the Duke 990 was made by Yamaha I'd choose that.... but...

KTM ❤

@joseluisgonz6002

7 ай бұрын

Ten cuidado, se ve bien, tiene varias mejoras pero no compres extra lo que debería venir incluido en el precio. No compres los opcionales. Yamaha te los vende por menor precio.

In Italia KTM costa $ 16.500,00 ... !!!

New mt-09 vs Vs Z900

Wow that KTM front end is hideous.

You have forgotten to mention that the Yamaha Triple Motor is smother than the Chinese Twin of the KTM

@gomez13333

Ай бұрын

I have to correct it. It's from Austria.

What idiot would buy a Yamaha triple over the street triple first of all. It was pretty much neck and neck with the triple rs and 890r. Now i think the 990 will edge it out and when they come out with the r version it will dominate the current market if they can keep the price down

@Bullpit2

2 ай бұрын

What idiot would buy the KTM with all the goodies in it but pay extra to use it.

Z900 vs KTM 990 ?

@toxicman4144

7 ай бұрын

KTM 990

@exothermal.sprocket

5 ай бұрын

Z900 makes upwards of 128 horsepower at the wheel with the usual full uncorking. Also has a very capable chassis, as some club racers have found out. Engine is butter smooth, super wide and flat torque curve.

@gomez13333

Ай бұрын

Z900 is ok to ride. The quality of the bike kills KTM. But 990 is a different level of fun to ride.

MT 09

Yamaha Mt09. Solamente por fiabilidad un 10

you can olny compare sp version to duke 990..... standard mt09 peripherals dont stand comparison with the duke .

@SecondGearYT

7 ай бұрын

I'm sure KTM is going to release the 990 R, or perhaps the Evo version, which would be equivalent to the MT-09 SP.

@exothermal.sprocket

5 ай бұрын

@@SecondGearYT And nonequivalent pricing.

Bike with microtransactions? Wtf is this?

@damienadios968

7 ай бұрын

ikr😅

@paulhope3401

6 ай бұрын

Yep, not cool, sadly it's probably going to become the norm.

@inquisitive6786

6 ай бұрын

@@paulhope3401 Dystopian shit

@exothermal.sprocket

5 ай бұрын

Going to have to find a software hacker.

There not exactly middlewieghts anymore at 900cc

KTM for the win!

990 anytime anyday

MT09 🏆

Yamahaaaaaaaaaa!!! No one can be this brand. Yamaha is like it's own planet...

Always KTM

Anytime Duke 😁😁😁

Street Triple RS tops both of them

Triumph street triple 765 RS for the win 😊

I mean none of them is going to outperform a Triumph ST 765 R anyway, so I'd not say "New King of Middleweight Naked Bikes" as well all know the Triumph is better...

Ktm the EA of bikes huh

MT09 any day. Looks, quality, sound, aluminum frame. Also KTM customer service is atrocious, and KTM quality issue stereotypes exist for a reason.

Yamaha always king any time

Am I the only person who thinks parallel twins are pure $hit??? It's like we went 30yrs back in time. The Ninja 650 has been around forever putting out pretty much the same performance stats as modern 600 parallel twins and they were considered budget crap all threw the 00's. SV's were cool with the v-twin. But the Inline-4's were where it was at!!!! What happened to adrenaline???

@forestmotoadventures

3 ай бұрын

I hear you brother on the high rpm adrenaline, but most of us mere mortals enjoy the torque production down low ❤

@gomez13333

Ай бұрын

Go and test ride 990.

@davidlagno7717

Ай бұрын

@gomez13333 I already own 2 bikes. I'm not interested in downgrading. I believe that KTM is ahead of the parallel twin game. But people who are buying them are only getting ripped off and I was wrong about the 30yr old tech of that motor, the 285°crank actually came out in the 60's.

@gomez13333

Ай бұрын

@@davidlagno7717 Test ride I'm suggesting is not buying one. It's just to let you get a clue ;) Yes, selling 2-cyllinder for a premium price IS a rip-off. But for me it's not about numbers but fun. And as long I hated how poor 2-cyllinder were running, the 990 riding is awesome overally.

MT not really a master of Torque at all then

@gudboyngdisyerto

6 ай бұрын

becaused he compared mt09 to duke 990. it should be mt10 vs duke 990 or mt09 vs duke 890

@Bullpit2

2 ай бұрын

@@gudboyngdisyerto + the price difference

Yamaha is best

A lot of butthurt crybabies in the comment section omg you guys are sensitive 😂

KTM ALWAYS

@Bullpit2

2 ай бұрын

Yamaha for the win, we actually want to ride and not be in for repairs all the time.