Does anyone honestly believe that the head engineer is going to tell you that it’s not reliable.

@mad-meh2719

6 ай бұрын

I mean, they could have stayed silent.

@user-tb7rn1il3q

6 ай бұрын

Considering there are a lot of people that drive a lot of miles. Reliability better be good. I doubt they’d release a truck with issues. This engine is already being used in several models.

@DougEvans-wb5ch

6 ай бұрын

It’s called signal theory, you actually are telling everyone how bad the engine really will be. By having to do all of this PR bull crap.

@tacoponcho

6 ай бұрын

The first one or two years of this truck is going to have problems. It might be 30 or 40k miles before we see them, but there will definitely be problems.

@Olaf236

6 ай бұрын

And when the turbo goes T U how much is that going to cost?

I still believe a V-8 or V-6 will outlast a stressed out 4 cylinder

@steveriddle8446

6 ай бұрын

It always will . Any new turbo will need extra " care " , and this one is no different.

@rndsommer40

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. I'd have no problem going back to the old days of 3k oil changes to keep one of these going to 300k. I just don't see those turbos lasting that long no matter the maintenance. I'm keeping my 2022 TRD Off Road for a while. I'd consider a 4th gen once I see a few going over 200k miles right before the gen 5 release.

@rjeepster8640

6 ай бұрын

100%

@1guyin10

6 ай бұрын

It all depends on how that 4 cylinder is built. There are 4 cylinder turbo diesels that will go hundreds of thousands of miles. A gas turbo engine can do the same if built strong enough.

@rjeepster8640

6 ай бұрын

@@1guyin10 That would be wonderful but they intentionally build them with a shelflife of about 200,000 miles max because they want you to buy a new one

If they are so confident the new engine will last they should increase the warranty to make consumers feel safe.

@brontoab1

5 ай бұрын

Damn straight.

@davenport9807

5 ай бұрын

Excellent idea.

@markmassoglia

5 ай бұрын

I don't buy it for one minute that a turbo 4 hybrid will be as reliable as the V6 that Toyota ran with little issue for so many years,

@Michael-ii9fs

5 ай бұрын

The number of miles that you'll be without issue will be above 100k as well. Once you put all options next to each other at that number higher than any warranty, which powertrain do you want? I'm not pro 4 banger for trucks, but he's not wrong that this has been a staple overseas for decades including turbo diesels. And the cliches such as "go anywhere with a Range Rover, but if you wanna get back get a Land Cruiser" come from those LC's with those engines. Those engines held up reliably in the Outback, the Sahara, Saudi, New Zealand, China, Siberia, etc. Not powerful. But really reliable. Does that mean that it is that reliable? No. But they beat on these smaller engines like crazy with Land Cruiser in both 4 and 6-cylinder turbo engines like they have for decades. We just aren't used to those smaller turbo engines, but they HAVE been more common over time with Toyota in their serious off-road offerings. I guess we'll see.

@Prxyshj

5 ай бұрын

Yep, they should increase the warranty to last as long as the average old school V6 or V8. But we know they won’t.

Caveman over here just wanting a regular cab, manual transmission, crank windows, hydraulic power steering, and actual mini truck footprint. That ship has sailed.

@coffeeandlifting

2 ай бұрын

I had the same desire, but to make things even more difficult, I also wanted a full box frame and a manual transfer case (no electronics in the drivetrain at all). The only truck that checks all the boxes and isn't completely impossible to find is the 1st-gen Nissan Frontier.

@claudhenrysmoot7957

2 ай бұрын

@@coffeeandlifting I get it. Cheap failure points disguised as progress reign supreme and have for well over 16 years now.

@truthnow902

Ай бұрын

Some of those things you can still get by good manufacturers but I definitely agree with Toyota that ship has sailed and so has the quality!!!

@fuqoff8583

Ай бұрын

I want the same. I had it once in my 2001 Tacoma, except for the crank windows. I kept it for 13 years and 350k miles, I wish I hadn’t gotten rid of it.

@stevet8121

Ай бұрын

@@fuqoff8583 That's why I'm keeping my 2003 Tacoma with crank windows. 123K 2.7 liter 4X4.

He is not talking as a Tacoma owner, he is selling the product like a salesman

It's been 9 years now since it's been available in the Tacoma, and not a single thing I've seen in person or read online has convinced me to ditch the Toyota 4.0L V6.

@donaldpiper9763

6 ай бұрын

Definitely cheaper built, pulleys plastic ,pumps plastic ,turbo charged 4 cylinder engine, which everybody knows when you force more air through ,it runs hotter. That way the life of the engine is less easy to figure out.

@MeltingRubberZ28

6 ай бұрын

​@donaldpiper9763 good thing it's intercooled

@MrVincemims

6 ай бұрын

Consumer Reports just named the current 4.0 litter 4Runner the most reliable car you can buy.

@mt-ec4uf

6 ай бұрын

Consumer Reports ain't what it used to be!@@MrVincemims

@triple6758

6 ай бұрын

A masterpiece of an engine and the end of evolution for Toyota V6. 3.0>3.4>4.0. The 3.5 is regression from the 4.0. Yes, I have owned both

Funny how it's technically a smaller engine than a GM 3800 V6, and yet looking at the way the components are stacked, you can tell that this engine will be a major pain in the ass to work on and will cost a lot in labor.

@rossr6616

6 ай бұрын

that was my first thought too; where'd they hide the starter on this one? 😂

@juanfo7307

4 ай бұрын

Interviewer: where is the starter located? Chief engineer: That is propietary undisclosed confidential company info. But I can share that it is conveniently located Directly beneath the exhaust manifold, right above the engine mount in front of the downtube squeezed tightly between the turbo and block to keep it hot in cold weather and prevent it from accidentally falling out. Interviewer: engine out to change it? Chief engineer: absolutely, a lot of work went into making this truck as difficult to work on as possible.

@PassivePortfolios

3 ай бұрын

The Nissan Frontier still has a naturally aspirated V-6.

@user-rm7kb3il6x

2 ай бұрын

@@juanfo7307 its a toyota, why are you so pressed because they got rid of the old v6? we know toyota is going to be reliable, why are you splitting hairs here, especially when the only thing you need to make a turbo 4 reliable is to simply overbuild it and cool it properly, which is exactly what they've done.

@dennisnky

Ай бұрын

@@PassivePortfolios That thing is so fun to drive, I get them as rentals all the time when Im in texas for work lol

After I saw this video for the first time, I quickly bought a 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed with the premium and technology pkgs, because historically a Turbo engine simply doesn’t last as long as a naturally aspirated engine. I put over 300K miles on my last 3.5L V6 Toyota. It didn’t give me any problems from the day I bought it until the day I sold it. We keep our vehicles for 15-20 or 300K miles. I currently have 7800 miles on my year old TRD Off Road. I doubt that I’ll live another 20 years and I know that I’ll be dead before my Tacoma hits 300K miles, so I’ll be driving my TRD until I die.

@brianonnela8186

6 күн бұрын

Why would you want to keep a vehicle that long. Just because it runs doesn’t mean it’s not a pile of junk. Just buy a new one.

@Doc1855

6 күн бұрын

@@brianonnela8186 Why would I do that? I invested well when I was younger and retired at 43. I don’t need to keep up with the Smiths and Jones. If our vehicles stay reliable, we just keep driving them. My wife’s Camry was 18 years old when we donated it to our church. It had only 118K miles on it and the car went to a single mother who desperately needed a vehicle. Because of where we live, we get 5-7 feet of snow every winter. So my wife would park her Camry and drive my RAV 4WD Limited with the 3.5L V6 and I’d drive our old 4WD pickup, until she was able to drive her Camry again. For my wife’s 50th birthday I bought her an Outback so she can drive it year round. We’d much rather invest our money into real estate or gold, silver, etc instead of buying a new vehicle every few years. Automobiles depreciate, but real estate and precious metals appreciate. Furthermore we rent our properties, which in turn puts money into our bank accounts, in which when we have enough set aside, we invest in more things that increase our income. Years ago my grandmother told me to live frugally so that when you’re old, you’ll be able to live comfortably and see the world. If you can afford to drive a Mercedes Benz, drive a Toyota instead. If you drive an expensive vehicle, everyone will know you are either wealthy or you’re dirt poor., scraping by, but if you just blend in then no one will try to take advantage of you. She was a very smart woman. Her parents were dirt poor and so was she while growing up. When she died at 93 years old, she had over $17 Million in her estate and she drove a 30 year old Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Brougham, 2dr that now sits in our 6 car heated garage and is driven only on occasion. It still looks great and drives like new with only 97K original miles. The car is now 40 years old.

Thanks for making my 2012 4.0 ALOT more valuable..good luck!

@qbanlink25

Ай бұрын

good luck to you with that 12 year old vehicle, sooner or later everything breaks and you're DEFINITELY pushing that later portion of that equation, good luck!

@TheJmich2001

Ай бұрын

@@qbanlink25 UNPRECEDENTED resale value..enjoy your chinky rusted out chevy

@Allups50

Ай бұрын

Tundra/tacoma V8 v6 are unicorns now

When i hear smaller gauge on the frame i hear "it will rust through quicker".

@is6566

6 ай бұрын

@proto… That and I also hear cost cutting.

@yeoldmetalhead6592

4 ай бұрын

Only on the US made models

@kb9oak749

3 ай бұрын

"We made it thinner and also better": Said nobody ever.

@user-rm7kb3il6x

2 ай бұрын

@@kb9oak749 thinner and better by making it as strong while being lighter.

@bcplumlee

21 күн бұрын

​@@user-rm7kb3il6x don't forget he also said they are passing that savings on to the customer 😂....

I’m an Ex military diesel mechanic and retired fleet maintenance manager. I’m buying a new car this year, and it will not have a turbo!

@waterlec8718

5 күн бұрын

What does that mean ? You don't like to or cannot afford it or something else ?

@barrya.6212

3 күн бұрын

If it's a Ford 2.7 or 3.5 ecoboost you'll be happy.... short term cam phaser issue addressed....

Much like every other company out there you're not listening to your customers. You completely did away with the six cylinder, forcing the 4-cylinder down our throat. The four cylinder, I don't care what you say will have to work harder and not last as long. For this reason I'm out

@AyaWetts

19 күн бұрын

You act like they have a choice... they are being forced to do things by the government... most people are voting for 'leaders' who keep pushing this junk.

@jombyalters520

15 күн бұрын

You're not looking broad enough. Peace and safety comes first ;) then comes "choice" and then comes "freedom".

People don’t want small Displacement turbo motors.

@hottew_twat3963

5 ай бұрын

just like we also dont want EVs but they will keep trying to convince us ,now people will have no choice .

@RickNethery

5 ай бұрын

​@@hottew_twat3963 Exactly, if you look up the F150, the ecoboost doesn't get much better fuel mileage than the 5.0, and once that turbo crap fails what little savings you had will be spent on repairs.

@TheAnnoyingBoss

5 ай бұрын

I dont want 8 injectors in a 4 cylinder. Pardon me i just think port injection worked fine enough there was no point. They go from v6 to 4, so imstesd of 6 injectors you got 8. Then they turbo it and semi hybrid it and it gets a wopping +2.7mpg. No thanks, ill take 4 cylinders with 4 port fuel injectors, no hybrid, no plastic valve covers. Extra durable transmission, call it a day. Boom easy. Why the hell are they overcomplicating us into bankruptcy man? Get rid of half the injectors I bet thats like 200 saved on each. Thats pays for the whopping loss of 1/4 of an mpg and i have less injectors that will go bad eventually. No turbo. Why turbo at all? A 2.5L in a truck is too small turboing it is worse i think. My last sedan had a 3.0 this is a truck not a sedan and they had to turbo it and semi hybrid it just for it to barely barely squeeze by as better on paper only in certain ways? No thanks. Maybe one day toyota will actually build simple vehicles again. 8 injectors 4 cylinders. Make the dumbness stop please I beg. I dont think its worth it. More efficient my ass. More efficient to the junkyard perhaps. With its water based paint

@johnsullivan8673

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@TheAnnoyingBossit’s not just fuel economy but also emissions. And there is no comparison between an old windsor or modular v8 vs a 3.0L ecoboost.

@Joystickoperator

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately EPA is making manufactures do this

I would love this truck with the 4.0 V6.

@truenorth1355

4 ай бұрын

How about a turbo v6.

@donbrloks3959

3 ай бұрын

I had a 4.0 and now have a 3.5. The 4.0 is by far a better engine. Also transmission constant gear hunting was not there on the 4.0. Gas milage was the same.

@saintgiles

27 күн бұрын

1GR-FE all the way!

I was waiting for that big boy to get into that tiny truck

@ohiofarmer5918

Ай бұрын

I have never been able to gjit into a Toyota Tacoma. My knees fo not fit under the steering wheel to get in the damn thing! The salesman explained that once they have drive by wire this will change. Well,at least I fit under the wheel of the Mighty Cummins. Crank windows because I knew I would keep it for a long time. I wonder if a guy could move the damn seat back a few inches by modifying the base where the seat mounts to the floor. Honda found out early on that Americans did not fit well on their motorcycles so they made the CB 750 and it damn near took out Harley. Toyota needs to make their tilt steering wheel tilt up HIGHER.

@dennisnky

Ай бұрын

@@ohiofarmer5918 sounds like they did change the tilt and the seats and fixed all that--or tried to, there's a million at the dealerships, I'd love to hear you check one out and see if they actually solved anything or if it's just talk.

This why i will not buy a toyota truck now

I'm a firm believer in a normally aspirated V8, without turbos or anything else is going to be more reliable in the long run and easier to maintain. There is no need for a turbocharged engine in a land based vehicle for driving. I believe this based on 50 years of driving.

@user-rm7kb3il6x

2 ай бұрын

"based on 50 years of driving" is exactly why your opinion on turbos being bad is not as valid as you think. nowadays engines are built stronger with better, purer casting. the reason modern engines dont last as long as they could in many cases is due to planned obsolescence which applies to any engine turbo or not. look at the turbo engines used for commercial applications, what about the turbo 6 engines in semi trucks? those run easily passed 500k miles and the longest ones go passed 2 million miles towing 80k lbs for most of those miles. if they want to make a turbo 4 last, they can make a tubro 4 last. fundamentally, yes its easier to make a bigger, less efficiently engine make the same power and last longer because there are less cylinder pressures. but building an engine strong enough to easily handle the high pressures is not impossible at all and has already been done, as seen in turbo diesles. turbo diesels have WAY more cylinder pressures, yet they last a very long time. why is this? because they build them to withstand thos pressures by using iron blocks and highly overbuilt components that are made to withstand those pressures, so they naturally last a very long time. this is entirely doable on a gas turbo 4. the difference is simply the added lubrication the diesel fuel gives. but thats not enough to account for the massive difference in mileage. its down to the way they're built.

@Xencer

Ай бұрын

LOL how long does a chevy v8 last? 60k miles until it needs engine removal and camshaft/lifter replacement. Toyota made a reliable v8 that the american brands couldnt do, and everyone thinks toyota cant make a 4 cylinder now thats ridiculous

@dennisnky

Ай бұрын

@@Xencer 100% agree lol

@buck546

Ай бұрын

I don't know but a naturally aspirated V8 is what I prefer.

@dennisnky

Ай бұрын

@buck546 that was my preference until I realized I'm straight up too dumb to even work on even the simple 70s vehicles haha. So my preference is going to be what goes the most miles before a major repair and without leaving me sitting anywhere.

"Reducing the gauge" of the frame doesn't sound like something I would call an upgrade. Still not sold on turbo or hybrid just because of complexity and maintenance.

@2nickles647

6 ай бұрын

Trying to sell you a thinner gauge frame is an upgrade 😅😅. I drive mine all the time too. From my garage to my front door. No issues at all period. My neighbor started to brag about his cheaprookee. I've had no issues in all the years I've owned it. So I asked him. Wasn't it several years ago you called me to rescue you and your wife from the Rockies.. and how far do you drive each day. Maybe 1.5 miles to the grocery store every day. 😅😅😅. He shut up and walked away.

@ericrotermund1004

4 ай бұрын

Hybrid is better than turbocharged

@WireEd1966

3 ай бұрын

Remember the Toyota “frame gate”? Keep your receipts!!

@deadbrother5355

3 ай бұрын

Turbos fail. I would not trust this thing to reliably take me to the middle of nowhere like I do my 2010 and 2019.

@ClockworksOfGL

3 ай бұрын

Hybrids are mechanically simpler and proven to be reliable.

This new motor is as reliable as this Chief Engineer’s current health…

@UTAH100

4 ай бұрын

haha true

@mysteriousoklahoma777

3 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same damn thing…lazy body….was hoping the chief engineer was from Japan.

@reloadNshoot

3 ай бұрын

I worked at the San Antonio Toyota plant when the average was building 1100-1200 trucks a day before retiring there. There was a big guy, almost twice the size of that engineer that I would see walking in and out. He would be slumped over the handrail taking a rest before continuing on, I mean he was big. Felt sorry for him actually. Here is the kicker, he drove a Hayabusa bike with handicap plates on it. He always parked in the closest spot to the turn styles. I s hit you not.

@diz_guy47

Ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅

@JBLynch

15 күн бұрын

Dead in 4 years?

I am so tired of hearing about emissions. Unless Russia, China, and India start doing it (and there is no shot in hell any of those 3 will ever do it) it doesn't even make 1% of difference. We are wasting resources, reliability, and time on something that is futile unless you get those 3 on board.

@mocheeks709

Ай бұрын

China dominates global production of solar panels, electric vehicles and wind turbines

@MVRWC

Ай бұрын

It's all about control

@letsgobrandon6545

Ай бұрын

completely agree, thats a pretty poor damage control from Toyota, how many times that dude mentioned emissions, including in towing context

@mocheeks709

Ай бұрын

Actually, China produces 80% of the world's solar panels compared to the United States 2%, they also produce 2/3 of the world's electric vehicles, wind turbines and lithium ion batteries .

@mocheeks709

Ай бұрын

science deniers should start thinking about emissions, it's getting hotter every year.

I’m so happy my 2020 4Runner still has the 4.0L 1GR-FE.

I'm still nervous about buying these vehicles with the turbos. Extra stuff=more stuff to break and fix and less long term reliability.

@jcrbama

6 ай бұрын

I have a Ford with a turbo that just hit 150,000 miles without a single problem. Pretty sure Toyota can easily surpass that mark. If they recommend a 0-20 oil though, I wouldn't use it. Bump up to a 5-30 or something like that. Turbos will tear apart 0-20 oil that they spec for mileage. Also, a turbo really isn't that complicated or add any more parts. It's a compressor and a couple of pipes. Probably less complex that 2 more cylinders, additional valves, plugs etc.

@bigboi2089

6 ай бұрын

​@@jcrbamathat is a terrible idea. The bearings on these motors were designed to run on thin oil. Anything thicker wouldnt have enough oil flowing and could ruin the bearings or cylinders

@user-df3ye5nm9y

6 ай бұрын

Precisely

@theshadetreewelder5043

6 ай бұрын

this isn't the first time Toyota did a turbo 4cly pickup

@sumokaa

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@jcrbamaIs this true for the current 4Runners V6 too? The idea of switching from an oil recommended by Toyota to an oil random people online are saying “could be better”, just seems really risky. Especially considering that full synthetic 0-20 has been proven to take the current V6 to crazy high mileage. The current 4Runner was even listed as consumer reports most reliable vehicle. Also doesn’t thicker oil have significant downsides, like issues in cold weather, where 0-20 can operate properly in a much larger temp range? Not disagreeing with you, I just don’t know what to actually believe. Lol

No matter how good that 4 cylinder is, all my friends say if they are spending all that cash, they want a v-8 in the Tundra and v-6 in the Tacoma. That's it.

@paulallen-01

5 ай бұрын

Well you can’t have that option on the Tacoma. You want a v8 then spend 70k on a tundra lol

@nowayagain8141

22 күн бұрын

@@paulallen-01 then they're not building products the majority of the market-place wants, but what unlawful regulators desire.

I heard a similar argument from a Toyota engineer who assured us the Tundra V6 would last as long as the old V8. Now they're spinning bearings. Also, the boxed frame is funny, as if it's innovative. Nissan had it YEARS ago.

@ZorrowTasogare92

3 сағат бұрын

Over 100k recalls including the Tacoma lol Yeah such a small engine for big trucks that require a lot of power for such big vehicles Nothing like a good V6 or the best a V8

Honestly I'd love more videos like this talking about the engineering behind models. Always fascinating and makes you appreciate the effort past a checklist of features, spec sheets, and looks.

@3blenders

6 ай бұрын

obviously this kind of “sweet talking” has s unprecedented because toyota feels the push-back from the consumers. The sell attempt is just a bit too eager “folks, we have done our job, now it’s your turn to trust us- we would lie to you because this is our life blood…” something like that. i am just concerned about the future service Nd parts and repair costs like my trusted old-timer mechanic tells me that more moving parts on turbo boost cooled engines more things can break. we all know what Mercedes Audi VW and BMW have done. They used to be the best and today they are just rental and lease industry providers because after 40,000 miles these cara are toast. o don’t want to take that chance on Toyota. Let’s just see how it goes.

@traviswright3343

4 ай бұрын

So you believe this guy is the chief engineer at Toyota? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Oooo. Kkkkkkaaayyyyyyyyyy

@chiphill4856

4 ай бұрын

@@traviswright3343No, I don't believe he's the Chief Engineer at Toyota. I do, however believe he is the Chief Engineer for the Tacoma vehicle at Toyota, as stated in the video.

I love the reliability of the 2.7 but the lack of power is frustrating, but that lack may be why it lasts. More stress and heat will likely kill the new one much quicker.

@alvinsimba734

6 ай бұрын

Same theory with the 1.8 litre engine in Toyota Corolla. They ditched it for 2.0 but that 1.8 litre did last a long time.

@9ZERO6

6 ай бұрын

In 1994 maybe. Turbo engines are extremely reliable unless.. we are talking about GM vehicles.

@miketerry6036

6 ай бұрын

You’re right you don’t want a turbo

@leonel9110

6 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with a good turbo in a reliable engine they still last a long time.

@NVRAMboi

6 ай бұрын

The 2.7L is a tank of an engine. My only gripe was that mine was paired w/the 4 speed automatic. Biggest shortcomings in performance was during uphill interstate merges or long/longer uphill interstate stretches. I regret that I didn't wait to get one with a manual transmission.

Thanks for making my 1990 V-6 more valuable..Now worth more then I paid in 1990. Keep up the good work!

I just bought one of these things, and im throughly impressed. They really thought through the driver experience, easier to toggle buttons, excellent infotainment center, adaptive and driver assist functions, and the torque/speed ramp up is smooth ! The new setup just makes sense... dont judge it until you try it guys! Not to mention that toyota has a history of small displacement turbocharged engines overseas, this isn't a new stint for them.

I would really love to see a simple truck again. One that was easy on the pocket and easy to work on. I have two early Toyota trucks. A 73 FJ40 and a 78 pickup. Wouldn't trade either of them for a new model.

@derekisthematrix

6 ай бұрын

Keep what you have, a new simple truck will never arrive (for lots of reasons including Government regulation)

@quercuslobata3776

6 ай бұрын

@@derekisthematrix Yep

@vincesmith764

6 ай бұрын

Tell it like it is ! I have an 84 4x4 pickup.22r carbed.,straight axle,5 spd.."classic" all original,factory white steel,slotted wheels.1984 warn winch mount with brushguards..

@quercuslobata3776

6 ай бұрын

@@vincesmith764 Amen

@Chromedome053

5 ай бұрын

The toyota scout is coming back.

He’s not biased at all. Turbos generate higher heat…heat is the cause of wear and failure.

@joepierson3859

6 ай бұрын

Which is why they upgraded the heat removal system

@countryjoe3551

4 ай бұрын

Did you watch the video?

@DefundTheFringes

3 ай бұрын

Keep in mind that diesels have used turbos for a long time, and they are known as reliable.

Throughout the video, for various initiatives and goals, I kept ”compromises.” Don’t doubt advancements in welding techniques, aluminum strength, cooling turbo engines, ability to integrate more parts in complex engines, etc. Weight savings may come back to cost you in some circumstances. And efficiency definitely can. Complex and reliable rarely go hand in hand.

Poor guy. You could tell he was really uncomfortable having to lie about the reliability.

I'm a proud owner of two original 1986 factory Turbo 4x4 extra cab pickups. They both still run like a watch and both are around 260,000 miles. No oil peaks of any kind. Both turbo's were replaced at 200k. I wish Toyota would make a SMALL truck like these again. I believe this new turbo 4 will serve well.

@damnitdang

6 ай бұрын

Same here,but all these tacoma idiots are too overpopulated.. and toyota cater to them

@Joeak74

6 ай бұрын

@@damnitdang its also because most americans are obese, type II diabetics that eat fast food, and are 300+ LBS and can't fit in a small pickup like the older ones.

@brianh5393

6 ай бұрын

How much do you think it will cost to replace a turbo (or 2) on the new toyota trucks? The 22RET could be changed with a few open end wrenches in an hour.

@Joeak74

6 ай бұрын

I have no clue, but I do have faith with Toyota, and I don't see any issues. Who knows. Could be crap too. Internet opinions on the new products from any manufacture are very biased. Everybody wants to be an arm chair engineer. I look at it this way... I'm sticking with my older, perfectly running Toyota pickups. Personally I will NEVER sign on the dotted line to purchase anything new. Debt sucks, and I just refuse to put myself in a situation where I have a $1000 a month payment for God knows how many years (6+). I guess it depends how how much you believe someone telling you that the economy is doing great, there's no inflation, and how much you trust or like your job.

@9ZERO6

6 ай бұрын

Those timing chains though...

Thanks for letting us know. Thanks for continuing the 6-speed manual trans ❤

@TheAnnoyingBoss

5 ай бұрын

At least theres that

@carlc5748

4 ай бұрын

I had a friend of mine tell me, about 1 million miles ago that I'd get tired of driving a truck with a manual transmission, still waiting!

I’m a rideshare driver. Let me borrow it for a year and I’ll put 300k miles on it. Then we can talk about reliability.

Sheldon! No way, great to see you in this. I worked with you 10+ years ago on the RAV4 EV. I remember you being a solid, down to earth person, and a great host whenever I was onsite. Cheers!

Im sticking with my 4.0....

@FilterYT

6 ай бұрын

Cheers, I'm sticking with my '40'

Speaking about fuel delivery: I will avoid anything with direct injection. I don't care if the D-4S has port and direct injectors. That is added maintenance and cost that is avoidable. I am more than happy with less horse power if I get better reliability out of my engine. I had a '97 4Runner with the 3RZ-FE 2.7 liter engine. I loved it. It was a base level 4x4 with the 'J' shifter for the transfer case. No '4x4' button on the transfer caser knob/lever. Open diffs. A340E automatic 4-speed tranny. The 4Runner had it's limitations as I kept it stock. No lifts. No suspension upgrades, Just OEM. I, sadly, used it as a trade-in when I should not have. Bought it for $4,500. If I could, I would go back in time and keep it. I let go of it with just over 200k miles.

@Fmandan77

6 ай бұрын

As an owner of a direct injection engine with 200K miles, I understand your concern as I've had to clean my valves and they were nasty. But you mentioned that you didn't care if an engine also had port injection in addition to the direct injection. My feeling and understanding is that if an engine features both, the port injection should clean the values and eliminate the need for cleaning the valves - assuming that is your concern.

@pdx650

6 ай бұрын

I understand. Thanks for sharing. I'm standing firm on my choices of port injection only and no turbos either. Why pay for 4 or 6 extra fuel injectors (D4-S) if you don't need them?@@Fmandan77

@TheAnnoyingBoss

5 ай бұрын

When toyota started making me buy 8 injectors for a 4 cylinder and then thry want that with turbo 4 banger hybrids i just cant do it man. They take the trans dipatick out of the corolla and do a cvt. Toyota is already dead. Walking zombie. Dying terribly. Why buy a tundra if i can go get a v8 from ford? Ford v7 is less reliable than it used to be imo but its going to be ahead of a v6 twin turbo hybrid and ford will sell me that too anyway.

@phil4986

Ай бұрын

Me too. Fuel rail pressures are too high and it doesn't clean the valves. Plus ethanol gas kills it and that's all the politicians' will lwt gas stations sell around me. They want to kill the gas engine even though they burn clean. It's some real 1984 stuff going on.

No way, no how, not ever, will this 4cyl turbo outlast a 6 or 8. We're talking about a truck, a small truck, but still a truck.

Only reason for a turbo charger other than a race engine is because the engine is too small and cannot power the vehicle without the turbo. Much better off with a V6 or V8 non turbo for reliability and long lasting engines. Very disappointed in Toyota and Lexus for bowing down to the government and replacing their solid reliable V6 and V8 engines. Not sure about the Tundra but the new Lexus requires Premium gas for 1MPG more Just plain stupid. Then they tell you well get the hybrid for more power, no thanks just give me an engine powerful enough to power my wheels without a turbo.

The V6s are already holding value because of these new engines. I can’t even get a last-gen RX350 because of this.

@DeuceDeuceBravo

6 ай бұрын

I hope that remains the case for a while so someone pays top dollar for my 2022 when I get a new one in a couple years. 😁

@jamesvirga9496

5 ай бұрын

I have a 21 RX, Lexus IS asking me to trade up, I told them no thanks, first time since 2009 I will not be driving an RX. Plus it looks too much like a generic Toyota, they had to spell out Lexus on the back so you wouldn't confuse it with a Venza

Just got a 2023 tacoma off-road 6spd manual.. glad i got in on the last simple toyota truck.

@briancobb3907

4 ай бұрын

I had a 93 hilux. Those were the last simple Toyotas.

@Level-zb4jg

4 ай бұрын

Me too, same truck. I got it last month. I hate the electronic throttle.

@barbwire7449

4 ай бұрын

I also just bought a 2023 Taco, the last of the dinosaurs, but it is a proven machine.

I have a question. I’m a 2023 iforce tundra owner and have been wondering if it’s necessary to allow the truck to idle prior to turning engine off each time I drive to allow turbo to cool down. *Standard driving , not towing or hard use.

Sheldon is awesome! He knows his stuff, and is passionate about what he does. He clearly enjoys it, and that's cool to see :) Get the feeling he'd be a fun dude to have a beer with and shoot the shit about how these things work

Thank you for bringing back a 6 speed manual.

This gentleman (Mr. Brown) clearly knows his product. It is always so rewarding to listen to an individual with so much passion and knowledge. Thanks for the fascinating (technical wise) video.

@kellingtonlink956

6 ай бұрын

(I agree with 97% of what he said/claimed)

@andreaspencer9813

6 ай бұрын

Not only is he knowledgeable and passionate about Tacoma but he is the nicest guy and is always open to answering questions.

@kellingtonlink956

6 ай бұрын

I bet!

@patrickcooper1122

6 ай бұрын

It's called letting folks know in advance that the Tacoma is no longer going to have the quality and reliability that Toyota was built on.... They reduced the Guage of the steel that the frames are built with because they finally decided to build a True box frame with ladder design. Down grading to leaf springs on some versions, etc...

WOW Sheldon Brown great presentation about an excellently made truck!

He literally told us the priority of the new design. Fuel economy. If you want longevity, go for a normally aspirated engine. If you want to meet government controls, go for a blown, high pressure engine

Yeah this is really good PR. But as a car nut and a child of multiple generations of mechanics. Anyone who thinks your going to get 230k trouble free miles from a turbo 4 in a truck, well bless you…

If I made as much money as him I would look EXACTLY the same. Personal chef indeed!

Thanks for all the good info, as I retire I’m downsizing everything my 07 SR5 4x4 4 door long bed is going and a 2 door long bed 4x4 ordered. I spent about 4 month a year in Thailand where I have a 2023 Hilux Rocco my and the Thai wife love it. She upgraded from here much loved Toyota Yaris 4 door hatch to our Rocco and she loves the utility it offers.

Hi Sheldon I am getting a TRD Sports 24' Taco. What is the most aggressive bigger size of tire BFG k02 I can install to replace the stock tire 265/65/r18? What is the biggest size of 265 that will fit on it?

He addressed a lot of valid consumer complaints, so that's great to hear. I'm glad Toyota is listening. The prior gen had some major caveats. It's a shame Toyota just kept selling it for many years with the awful 6-speed automatic that can't pick a gear, instead of taking care of their customers sooner rather than later. Also, thank you for keeping the extra cab version. GM and Ford really dropped the ball getting rid of that. I'm one of those consumers who needs the bigger bed, not the extra backseat. Hopefully, the turbo 4 engine proves itself dependable and not more expensive to keep up long-term. I have my doubts.

@Elvisnotpresley97

6 ай бұрын

I get that but wouldn’t it be easier to load cargo with the access cable instead of the xtra cab?

@palebeachbum

6 ай бұрын

@@Elvisnotpresley97 I suppose it depends on what you're hauling. The stuff I haul is either too big to fit in the cab or too dirty. Lumber, gravel, demolition debris, pallets of flooring, etc.

@DeuceDeuceBravo

6 ай бұрын

To be fair, there wasn't much incentive for Toyota to spend money on the 3rd gen when it was still the best selling midsize truck by a mile.

@theglowcloud2215

6 ай бұрын

@@palebeachbum I feel like you'd be better served by a half-ton, not a midsize truck. Single cab Ram 1500s and Silverados are relatively affordable, since demand for them is so low compared to crew cabs.

@palebeachbum

6 ай бұрын

@@theglowcloud2215 a half ton would certainly do the job with more ease, but I'm not accustomed to driving full-size vehicles and I live in the city, so parking spaces tend to be narrow and maneuverability and shorter length is important. I don't totally dismiss the idea, but I'd feel more comfortable in something like a Frontier or Tacoma.

2AZ-FE veteran here. I was hoping to hear that Toyota stepped up to more than 10 head bolts per four cylinder bank. The rest of my life will be free of engines that are skinny on head bolts and prone to blow head gaskets. I totally get the importance of a turbo being a low cost way to deliver more horsepower, but I actually place negative value on a turbo and would prefer the same engine without the turbo with lower horsepower. Though I am sadly forced into other options (per above), it is great to see Toyota making the manual transmission available.

@DigitalCity-sj4es

6 ай бұрын

oh....here we go....the old 10 bolts bullshit that no one ever had an issue with except for ol pete from wisconsin.......ok buddy....time to come back to reality.

@loganamurray64

6 ай бұрын

You have to remember that the 2AZ's head bolt issues had nothing to do with the amount of bolts per cylinder or the thickness of the bolts. The blocks had a manufacturing defect causing the threads to strip out and the bolts were prone to oxidation failure due to the material used and their sitting in a waterjacket, Toyota did slightly change the design but the thickness remained practically the same, plenty of engines use 4 bolts/cyl

@loganamurray64

6 ай бұрын

2AZ's definitely had real head bolt issues lol@@DigitalCity-sj4es

@Arcticfox7

4 ай бұрын

Cool it, guys. 2AZ-FE/PK7 has the absolute nominal bolt to head gasket ratio. TOYOTA switched to 99% tungsten in all of their bolts starting in 2018. Seal itself is 88% industrial grade silica tk-6 temp rated. So 2az-fe is far superior with mostly NTO-6/TG steel pivot points. So as a 22 year Toyota tech I'm absolutely not worried.

So can the rear seats be folded down without needing to remove the head rests every time?

Great interview…

Great insight from the builders perspective and so well spoken! Seen most from your previous review. Looking at buying a new Tacoma next year, hard to get over the fact it will be a “4” and not a “6” although it has so much torque. I have owned nothing but Toyota and always impressed, have 2-1/2 now. Any engineering insight on the TMW Supra I have? The other 1/2 Toyota I own.

Great informative video,should be more like this explanation of the engineering and thought process is informative and interesting,and answers a lot of questions.

I just bought my 2023 sport in order to get the last of the late and great 6 cyl 3.5L automatic, that motor is battle tested. I traded in my 09 Sienna with 245K on it and it started every time and ran great with the original motor, tranny, timing chain alternator and starter. Not sold on the 4 cyl turbo just yet. Lots of stress on that little motor.

The spin-on canister oil filter finally returns! Thank you!

Liking this very different video, quite informative and with the unskinned look at a vehicle like this, brings a whole different perspective on how this has been built from the ground up 🎉

@andreaspencer9813

6 ай бұрын

Totally, we thought many would find this video quite informative. Sheldon Brown is so passionate about Tacoma and is willing to answer any question.

@timphillips4147

6 ай бұрын

@@andreaspencer9813 Yes very good call both on this video, seeing how vehicle like this comes together 🎉

4:59 look at that mess under the hood.😢

@illuminaughty2929

6 ай бұрын

Looks like it was designed by Ford

I miss the 2.7L inline 4's that Toyota used to produce, they were a fun and easy to work on motor, with plenty of power with the smaller Tacoma bodies, I owned two. One with an auto, and the fun one, with the 5 speed manual standard cab... That was one fun little truck I wish I had never sold.

Will I be able to mount a winch on the 2024 TRD off-road?

Great video and all questions were answered thoroughly and confidently, I’d would of like to ask him why so many early issues with the Tundra? and so many of them are still lingering…

Good interview! Thanks for sharing.

@andreaspencer9813

6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

This is really really good info! I used to fly a Cessna Turbo 210 with a Continental TSIO-520 engine. My rule was to let the engine idle at least 2-minutes to let the VERY HOT and VERY HIGH RPM turbocharger spin down to a low RPM before turning off the engine and SHUTTING OFF the engine oil pump to the turbo bearings which needing lubrication while the bearings were still spinning down. I needed the turbo charger in the airplane for power at high altitude, but I have never wanted a car with a turbo charger because of this lube issue when the engine has been "run hard and stopped VERY HOT" because of the turbo bearing lube issue. I have been told that BMW keeps oil flowing to the turbo bearings after the engine has stopped. Worse case, in my imagination, is 2 hours of Interstate driving and stopping at a rest area for a toilet break and shutting the engine immediately upon reaching the parking space. MY QUESTION: How does Toyota deal with turbo bearing lubrication in a situation like this?

Do you have to put premium gas is this vehicle since it’s turbo?

Did you zinc dip or galvanize the frames? Do you think the I4 turbo go 300,00 to 400,000 miles like the V6 has?

What's the warranty on the turbos?

How does the turbo in the tacoma compare to the one going into the highlander. I like the v6 in the highlander

My 2021 SR Quad Cab 4x4 is back in the shop for a third time for a mystery creak noise; the front body mounts have been done but now all of them are being replaced in hopes to fix this. However, I truly love do love this truck and will get another after the 24 has been out for a few years to see how it checks out.

Happy to see a manual trans is still available

I went with the Nissan Frontier because I wanted naturally aspirated.

@JesusIsLord7773

6 ай бұрын

Great choice! I love both tacomas too and fronts

@Frontierproxbajastorm

6 ай бұрын

I have a 23 prox can’t wait to install the z1 off-road performance package stage 2

@barbwire7449

4 ай бұрын

I bought a new 2023 Tacoma because I wanted a naturally aspirated. I wanted a dinosaur rather than a turbo.

Nice job, very impressive.

Thanks!

We shall see. I doubt it.

Excellent video, love the technical discussion. More like this please!

Thank you!

So what's the fuel economy for Tacoma turbo 4-cylinder?

I'm more interested in the longevity of them. I do own a toyota FJ but my pick up trucks are all 90s-00s chevys with 5.7 and 5.3 with 250-300k plus and considering replacing with tacomas but my first thought with this engine is its longevity.

Great video but NO Turbo for me.

@barbwire7449

4 ай бұрын

No turbo or CVT transmission for me.

So what happens if the turbos dont stay cool?

I love it when a chief engineer does the talking. Knows all the details in and out. Good video, appreciate the content.

@Nobamaable

6 ай бұрын

An engineer with a hidden agenda.

@Scroll_Lock

5 ай бұрын

@@Nobamaable Exactly. Trying to convince long time customers it will be fine. It won't. I'll take my chances with the Frontier and it's naturally aspirated v6. KISS is always the best bet.

Would like to know more details about fuel management system

I want to see the engine apart . Ive been a diesel tech for 22 years and I know what has to be done for a turbo 4 to last and be reliable . It need big head bolts six bolts per cylinder not 4, the block needs to be a closed deck design, the pistons need hardened alloy piston ring lands, and can’t have low drag piston rings it needs beefy piston rings that can handle extra pressure from forced induction and direct injection . It also needs a beefed up bottom end. You can’t build an engine similar to a naturally aspirated engine put a turbo combined with direct injection on it and expect it to last . You basically need to build it like a diesel engine .

I'm sticking with the 3.5. In fact, I just bought a 2023 trd off-road to keep in the garage for whenever my 2019 dies.

@shawnpedri7948

6 ай бұрын

Why would a 2019 'die'???

@erickonassis6310

6 ай бұрын

​@shawnpedri7948 lol right, but I understand what he's doing

Right on. Love these engineer TED talks. Grants a fantastic insight. Can’t wait to see the drive review next week

@MikeM952

6 ай бұрын

So cool that I see you in the comments! I have a highlander hybrid platinum on order with you

@HenryInKC

6 ай бұрын

Toyota is being forced by the EPA to put reliability 2nd to fuel mileage unfortunately. This will be the beginning of the end for "Toyota Reliability".

@MikeM952

6 ай бұрын

@@HenryInKC probably won’t be as reliable as the early 2000s Toyotas but they’ll still be more reliable than other makes of similar years

@NelsonGasparDrives

6 ай бұрын

@@MikeM952 right on!!!!! Great to see you here!

@Scroll_Lock

5 ай бұрын

@@MikeM952 You have no evidence of that. A badge does not make up for bad design parameters from the get go. They offer a $2000 seat with it's own suspension on it, that should tell you the dumpster fire Toyota is becoming by catering to the wrong customers. BMW and Mercedes are pure shit these days because they started catering to the same type of customer Toyota wants.

What is the size of the OIL Sump? Some tiny ass sump turbos chew through oil. Pressure increases blowby plus epa puts carbon back into oil. I keep my vehicles 300k miles this is a 100k mile vehicle between rebuild unless you change oil every 1500 miles. I purchased a Jeep Gladiator in nov 23 has 54000 miles no issues except cracked gorilla glass. Also purchased 175mi 10y warranty where else can you get that for 49k out the door?

Got rid of my 2018 TRD off road specifically because of the gear searching up hills. I really hope it was fixed. I drive a 2021 Tundra now...bullet proof engine and transmission.

I hope this 2024 engine is better than the turbo 4 in my wife's 2023 Highlander Limited. I can't stand driving that thing. Massive throttle lag until 15mph or so then wham... the turbo finally lights and it takes off and can occasionally spin the tires. Try to make a right hand and accelerate... tires spin when turbo spools. Whoever programmed the wastegate part of the tune should be fired. No linearness to the throttle at all. Should have never gotten rid of the V6. Would have been a much smoother ride. We've had her car for 1 year and 15K miles. I can't wait until she gets tired of it. I expected a better ride out of that car. Disappointed...

Toyota needs a regular cab long bed Tacoma (7') like the old days.

I REALLY want this new engine to be reliable for the new 4Runners and Tacomas. I doubt at first release they will make it to 200k plus without something happening. They just won’t be able to be as reliable as the dinosaur V6 or the 4.7 V8 but it is a trade off. Better economy and better power, so hopefully they will still be a reasonably reliable engine for Toyota’s reputation. I hope i’m proven wrong and am looking forward to the future 4Runners! Once these engines get used for a while in the mass market and then gets refined I would happily jump into one.

I would love to see a test between their V-8 vs. V-6 vs. V-4 turbo all towing 2K-3K lbs for 100 miles with off-road terrain challenges comparing torque vs. fuel economy. The V-6 would prolly still win.

Cool to know! But time will tell :) With a Toyota, we might only find out in 20 years! :P

To build the new Tacoma this man was required to eat an Old Tacoma!! Kaizen belly!!!

Finally!!!! An engineer you can understand and that cancommunicate! Nicely done.

8 speed turbo 4s, aluminum panels, CAFE standards are definitely changing things.

@kevinfitzpatrick5949

5 ай бұрын

These same standards are also the reason there are no cheap or simple small trucks

I've had every generation of the tacoma, even pre tacoma. I've been happy with all of them. I trust Toyota to bring me a quality product. I did shy away from the automatic on the 3rd gen and got a 6 speed, but I'm almost getting too old for it. My wife couldn't drive a manual, not sure that was a bad thing............LOL

It's a nice looking truck, I like it, especially with the new added features. I have a Tacoma now and love it, however I'm 64 years old and been around cars and trucks most of my life. I know people who have had turbos on their cars. Likewise, I myself have a turbo on my dodge ram with the Cummings diesel engine. To me, knowing what I know about turbos with my experience and what I have seen with my friends, a diesel is the only engine I would ever consider having a turbo on. Why? Because they simply wear out an engine way before their time, because of the added presser the turbo puts on each cylinder. Diesel engines use diesel fuel which is mixed with oil which lubricates the engine and offsets wear and tare, so I didn't mind buying one on my dodge, I still should get 500k to a million miles on my dodge, but I am very skeptical about a 4-cylinder turbo engine for the new Tacoma. So here is my challenge. Show me a new Tacoma with the turbo 4-cylinder engine that get a million miles on them like I have seen other Toyota truck engines get, and I will trade my Tacoma in on a new Tacoma first thing tomorrow morning. Heck, even show me these engines that get 500k miles on average as a work truck hauling and towing light loads and ill buy one, but I doubt they will even get over 200k miles with a turbo 4 cylinders on a gas burner. They may not even get that. I hope I am wrong, I will gladly concede if you do because I have owned Toyota trucks since 1994 and love the dependability and reliability and longevity of a Toyota pickup truck. That is why I keep coming back to Toyota and buying them. I own the Dodge ram with the Cummins diesel to pull a lot of weight like my tractor or camper, Toyota didn't offer a diesel at that time, which is what I needed to pull heavy loads, but I have the Tacoma to work around town and at the farm to pull my lawnmower and my portable sawmill and my motorcycle, lightweight stuff and I have a Honda CRV to drive around town. Furthermore, I hope all of them get at least 500k miles as I take very good care of them and change the synthetic oil every 5000 miles and all the other fluids at 60k miles or every 3 years. So I will be highly pissed off if they don't get 500k, and I will not ever buy that brand again. As much as a car or truck costs now, 500k miles is very reasonable to expect to get from a new car or truck. We should get our moneys worth. My first brand-new car back in 1980 was a ford Fairmont futurea that costed me 14k and change with an inline 6. Now, new cars and trucks cost over 40k. Back in the 1970s you could buy a new 1400 sq ft house for 14k. So every one should expect to get 500k miles if they take care of their new car or truck. Anything less is a rip off.

@riverton70

6 ай бұрын

How does a turbo add pressure to each cylinder and cause premature wear?

@briankalagher6687

6 ай бұрын

I'm very curious to see how this new turbo engine does. I think Toyota would be the one company who could make a turbo last 500K, I'm just not sure any company cares about that anymore. If they recommend 10K oil change intervals like they do on some other models I doubt it will make 150K. I'm assuming you bought the CRV with the normally aspirated engine because I think that 1.5T had some big problems with oil dilution.

@joepierson3859

6 ай бұрын

How much did you make back in the 1970s vs now? The reason I'm asking is $14000 in 1980 is equivalent to $52,274 today, do you think if you paid $52,274 for your Ford Fairmount today would you got your money's worth? or would you have been ripped off? Did that ford get 500,000 miles?

@flashpan26

6 ай бұрын

Lol where did you get your numbers from, I would like to fact check them. I am a multi-millionaire today, in the top 10% as far as income, back then I was just out of high school working a factory job. No use comparing apples to oranges. As far as getting my moneys worth back in 1980 no I didn't I was only able to get just over 100k miles on it before it started to use oil even though I changed it every 2 to 3k miles. A woman pulled out in front of me and caused me to crash and total loss the car, so I have no way of knowing just how far it would have gone once it started using oil. It was the first and last ford I ever bought because of that. Although I will have to say I did really like the car. None of the Honda's or Toyota's I have owned have started using oil at 100k miles. My father however had a ford pickup truck that got 500k miles on it, before it was worn out, that he bought in 1972 so he definitely got his moneys worth@@joepierson3859

@flashpan26

6 ай бұрын

I agree with you, I hope Toyota can make their new turbo last 500k miles, but I am doubtful with my 2023 Tacoma they tried to convince me to only change the oil every 10k miles I laughed at them and take mine in to Toyota on the 10k intervals and to a quick change place on the 5k intervals. And yes I bought the normally aspirated engine because the turbo on the smaller engine was causing so much pressure in the cylinders it was pushing gas beyond the rings into the oil and causing oil delusion sounds like you did your homework it pays off when you do@@briankalagher6687