Two points Frankie; The markup on emtbs by the industry historically was massive, (sale price - production price), the pushback by consumer is reverberating in the shape of somewhat reduced old stock. We must not go back to the madness of >$5k bike as great value - it isn’t. The YT affiliates are partly to blame and us consumers for taking out loans to purchase much hyped products. You say these prices may not last. This is a common ploy, the industry is in doldrums, carefully jettisoning dated stock - this will continue well in to 2024 by most predictions. The buying price point and timing of purchase will remain very individual. Will we go back to 8k mid level emtbs in 2025………? Depends on how the value is defined by consumers……time to form an independent worldwide emtb community - to force the runaway train……..

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

I 100% agree with you on over priced emtbs. I have given much thought about how to proceed in making content. It seems the sale prices at this moment are prices that are what I call “true price” or MSRP pre-covid. I do believe prices could improve more. But it’s still up to the manufacturer/ brand to set the MSRP. Moving forward I’m going to be as truthful as possible and give my grade and estimate on where the true MSRP lies. Brands will likely dislike what I’m doing but I’m going to try to keep it honest for the viewers. Thank you for the comment! I’ve already recorded a few price and spec analysis episodes to try and tackle the high MSRP. I hope I can change some minds

What about the Transition Relay? I know not designed as a dedicated e-bike but would be interested in your take on it if you have one?

Can you also review the Superior ExF 9039 B? Or ehat can you say about that bile with it’s price value? Thank you

Good review Frankie, Would you have a bike you could call a winner from them all? I’m after an e enduro, poppy/fun and very capable downhill. Bit like the decoy 😎

@frankiesemtb

Ай бұрын

It’s tough to pin point a best since these bikes are all a bit different in nature.. but enduro + poppy I would go with either Decoy or the ARI Timp peak

Franky need your opinion... im looking for a emtb around 5K. Canyon spectral on and torque on cf8 are on special at the moment.... around 4700$ would you go for it ?... which one ? if not have you better option for me enduro/trail bike thx man

@frankiesemtb

10 күн бұрын

Both are great! And good prices too!. But for around 5k I would go for the Strive on underdog. I personally take the bosch motor over the shimano ep801. Bosch just has a really nice assist that shimano lacks.

@charlessauve4291

10 күн бұрын

@@frankiesemtb ok thx ... only thing strive is not has good deal has 2 others rebate wise.... only 300$ sale instead of 1200$ on torque .... what about the YT Decoy core ? again here is the battery 450 compare to canyon 720 to 900. So many bike out there it s hard to choose one

What about Mondraker Crafty RR ?

I’ve been eyeing the Cannondale Moterra 3 at REI as the sale price at $3,999 seems like a great bargain. Plus I really only need a capable bike to take my son with me on the trails. I am torn however because the Carbon Moterra you listed here looks killer and also has a great sale price as well! I think a thorough review of the Moterra 3 in the silver color (which I can’t find) would help me make a decision between the 2. Not to mention I can’t find any real world weight numbers!

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

The Moterra 3 a REI is a killer deal! I will make a price and spec analysis for the Moterra 3!

@runyourcity8702

14 күн бұрын

@@frankiesemtbdo you know if you can upgrade this bike to class 3? Thanks

Bike, truck, car prices are all out of control.

Specialized levo alloy G3 NB ???

The YT got to be the best bang for the buck. Got a core 3 from yt at great price with voucher.

@alejandrog7804

21 күн бұрын

Where did you get the voucher?

@Seppljoehamster

4 күн бұрын

Got the Core 4 for 5599€, its worth the Money with Updates 801 on local store

How does a Trek Rail 7 Gen 2 compare to the bikes on this list? I can find one for around $4k

@frankiesemtb

2 ай бұрын

I rode a Gen 3 at sea otter and I love it! I’m not too sure on the changes from gen 2 to gen 3. Great overall bike

Would like a review on that Decoy as well as on the Moterra LT, a bit heavy though

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

Added to the list!

@Seppljoehamster

4 күн бұрын

YT in XL Core 4 23.3kg!!!

I am going with the Decoy my dude

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

The specs on the core 4 is Mint!

@trailpimp6369

4 ай бұрын

@@frankiesemtb 💯

Whats your opinion on YT Decoy Core1 for $3,999?

@frankiesemtb

Ай бұрын

great price and great specs!

I like the Bulls and the Cannondale. Both are good bikes with great motors and 750 batteries.

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

Yes the Bosch motors on these are excellent and the price point on the bulls is just too good

@johnnywallace8123

4 ай бұрын

Just bought the Bulls a couple of months ago for 3470.00 dollars delivered to the house.

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

Nice! that is a killer deal!

@manfredstrappen7491

3 ай бұрын

I picked up the Bulls AM4 for $3600. I have yet to see any other bike at the $6k range or less with Shimano XTR, much less the spec the Bulls has. This bike for the same or less money as a FS analog bike is great!

@ripmatek

Ай бұрын

@@johnnywallace8123from where?

i still refuse to pay these prices!!

@basemgerges1979

2 ай бұрын

You’ll come round else you wouldn’t be watching this. You wanna but just need confirmation

@braticuss

9 күн бұрын

They're coming down, and will keep coming down. Tech will get cheaper, and competition is heating up. Also, a ton of older models are sitting unsold for cheap'ish.

I'd love to see the current deals on Pinion & MGU eMTB, Never buying a Derailleur bike again.

These prices are mad. For a bike.

I’m suprised haibike nduro 8 FR didn’t make it on there, can be picked up for £4K and the spec is unreal compared to all of these

These deals won’t last?? I’m still waiting for these deals to get even better!!

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

What I wanted to express was inventory on some of these won’t last. I had a few more extra e-bikes lined up for the video and by the time i started to record the bikes were already sold. I think deals will continue through 24/25. We will probably see another additional 10%-15% towards end of this year to early 25

The Kenevo Expert 23/4 model is on ikb bike for 4200. That's better value and a better spec, than any of the above.

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

That is a great price! Going to put that bike on my price and spec analysis video

@stevenblanc8301

4 ай бұрын

@@frankiesemtb it's available on ikb bike for 4200 expert 3200 competition

@stevenblanc8301

4 ай бұрын

@frankiesemtb they must be run out models, the 23/4 experts comes with the coil shock, upgraded 160mm cranks, axs wireless drivetrain, RS brakes etc.

@ronchang9791

2 ай бұрын

​​@@frankiesemtbis the non-sl 27.5 kenevo being replaced? Specialized removed it and I'm not sure if they're just discontinuing a 180mm alloy 27.5 emtb for a levo.

Frankie, I know this a big ask, but can you provide some options that are for beginners that don't have a big budget? Ones that I am considering are the Heybike Hero, the Cyberbike Mullet and the Aventon Ramblas. Are there others in that budget range that are also not HUGE fat-tire ebikes that aren't really meant for trails? I am not looking for black diamond riding (will avoid drops like my life depends on it... well, actually it kinda does!), but more nice flowy trail riding but also able to get up and down hills.

@frankiesemtb

3 ай бұрын

I’ll do some research for you and make it into a video! Question what is your budget range?

@tonygiancoli9626

3 ай бұрын

@@frankiesemtb $2000-$3500 & thank you.

prices in commencal web are way more expensive! i want the meta power sx! (at least in euros)

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

I based my prices off the US website so maybe some differences there. But I agree the Meta power SX is sick!

What about the new Gas Gas

My issue with the yt as a tall rider, is the reach on an xxl is 489mm. Some reviewers have said it feels compact. It’s due for a full update.

@frankiesemtb

4 ай бұрын

489 for xxl is short. the decoy is definitely due for an update.

@BlackHartTrails

4 ай бұрын

@@frankiesemtb I looked at their website again today. They put the decoy 29 all mountain back up, and the xxl is 503. The spec for the price is insane. Zeb and Vivid ultimate, Hayes brakes and gx transmission. For under $10k cad.

Hey guys is 600$ budget to little?

@AvacadoMan1

17 күн бұрын

I’m a kid so I won’t be going on trails or anything

This is not a great value, it is a great rip-off, basically better buy a motor or a car for such price, for city electric scooter.

lol best value full suspension bikes at $6k? No. You mentioned zero hard tails - the best most affordable ebike someone could get lol. No Aventon Ramblas? Trek Marlin? For shame