great video. I missed the EV announcement. Glad you added it. Smart they started with the tour companies. Easy machine to maintain. Do you know if they moved the Neo to the gen 5? Guessing no since it was not mentioned. Was also hoping they would add the 10 inch screen to more models. Not keep it for only the high end machines.

You made a lot more sense than the SkiDoo presentation and I didn’t have to correct all your pronunciation’s! 😅

They should’ve separate 2 stroke and 4 strokes when the 900 came out. Good job ski doo for simplifying riding again

More great info from Snowtrax. Thanks Luke!

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that!

As always very informative! Love your vids. Would like to see content on the 2024 Enduro.

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Could you post a video about the 900 turbo R renegade for 24 in the G5 chassis? I'm wondering how the handling, etc, is with the weight. I see you guys like the lighter 850 in a G5, but I haven't seen one on the G5 with the different steering post location.... Thanks, Northwoods Snowmobiling

I don't understand leaving the 2 stroke Enduro as a renegade. I like the thought of separate renegade/MXZ by engine type. Why throw a wrench in it with one exception? Why not have a Renegade and MXZ with Enduro option?

Is there a belt drive system yet in place for the new G 5 or that be something will probably have to look forward to next year

Can't own a skidoo without a computer

For the Electric sled 30 miles is a very short range. I see Electric Sleds working well at Ski Restores with an aggressive track to get to the top of the Mountain and regenerative braking on the way back down .

Its neat that the liquid injection solution to overheating dates back to the mid 40's fighter planes. They'd spray it into the supercharged fighter planes to keep from blowing engines under "emergency power" situations

@ih302

Жыл бұрын

This isn't the first time BRP has borrowed ideas from the past, RER is basically the same thing as running an Acadia make and break marine engine in reverse.

My opinion the best trail sled they ever built is the 850 renegade Xrs. too bad they switched it up , I know the 137 mxz is the same sled but renegade sounds cooler😅 cheers guys. love your content

Nice video hope you can go more in depth later. I’m a 2 stroke guy but I think the electric Grand Touring is cool and will be good for what it’s intended for. SkiDoo is an innovator I have to give them that.

They literally said don’t leave comments about the ev being bad because it’s not meant for you yet you guys are still doing it be quiet and if your a power freak talk about the 850

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Any mention of electric and people panic. Not a problem.

How long does this 850 Turbo Water Injected Shot LAST? When will Rotax introduce Stratified Charge?

So much new stuff including new price tags.

I dig the ev color scheme, need to make a Xrs those colors

So, each dealership had only two MXZ's available, and we're sold out before the doors opened. Is this intentional? The Rave/Exterrain look amazing! Love the new Backcountry as well but why wouldn't they have put a turbo in that one as well (assault/vr1).

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Oh for sure it was intentional. The guys that got these sleds are going to be the most popular on the trails next season and in 2025 Ski Doo could sell a billion of them.

@mv3380

Жыл бұрын

Last year my dealer had all spring orders locked up before Christmas. Was told next time deposit in November to guarantee a spot. 🤦‍♂️

How can you predict range on an electric snowmobile? What temperature did they do their testing? Temperature is a MASSIVE hit to batteries.

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

I'm certain Ski-Doo has been working on and testing this for a while. Also likely the reason they started with tour operators and not hardcore snowmobilers.

@bedlambikes

Жыл бұрын

EV’s rely on a lack of rolling resistance more than anything. The less a vehicle can coast after letting off the throttle, the less range it’s going to have. Snow is a terrible thing to travel thru if you’re looking for efficiency especially if it’s not packed down like concrete. Electric snowmobiles will never have a decent range with the battery technology that currently exists. Sleds require constant torque to keep moving forward…..cars don’t.

Is anyone else getting less and less snow? I've been wanting to purchase a snowmobile for the last couple years and it seems like since I started looking we get less snow every year. I live on the east coast of Canada along the bay of fundy and with the exception of a few days here and there it hasn't really dipped below 0 this year. Even the ice fishing is suffering this year.

@drbobvs

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but this year seems to be a freak. I’ve NEVER seen a winter like this in my 54 years. Hopefully next year will be better.

@travisdavies8039

Жыл бұрын

Minnesota has had more snow this year than in the past ten by far. You can ride the whole state under great conditions. Sorry your area sucks this year.

Why can the G5 mountain sleds have a nice integrated hood but the trail and crossover sleds have a big piece of black plastic surrounding the headlights? 1:35 Is it a functional piece that's easily removed for service or something? That part of the sled makes me want to stick with my G4 for a while.

Tried to build a sled with shot and wouldn't allow to select the 10 inch display? It forced you to put in electric start not sure maybe a glitch?

@fredbishop9434

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like what I have heard from my ski doo buddies, depending on the model, you are limited to one or the other. Oh, and depending on supply, you my get neither when your sled shows up.

To bad the range on the ev sleds isn't better. Wouldn't mind some of that low friction tech for certain trail models.

@Kowalski301

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the range is deliberately kept down as the smaller battery pack weigh less and cost less and they simply don't need more range. The fact the battery is under the hood confirms it's pretty small. The Taiga sleds have more than twice the range, at least according to specs, and it has the battery under the seat.

new Backcountry XRS colour scheme is AWESOME!

@mv3380

Жыл бұрын

My 4 year old loves it! Blippi!!

Maybe say 2 stroke turbo trail sled instead. Because it's not the first year of the 850 turbo

How long do you think it will take before someone puts jet fuel in that rear tank on the XRS?

@bigchaloopa

Жыл бұрын

nitrous

What is the difference between the MXZ-X and the Blizzard package sled they seem to be the same on the website

@justsomeone6835

Жыл бұрын

From what I can tell you have a track option with Mxz-x and the blizzard package comes with one track no options

@bombidude

7 ай бұрын

Shocks

Just snow checked a 2024 Expedition SE with 900ACE

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@RonRivet

Жыл бұрын

@@snowtrax you guys were just in our area a couple of weeks ago. Spanish/Espanola area.

Got to give Doo credit for being very progressive in an industry where not all players are & winters in parts of southernmost Canada & the US are not much more than a couple months in length anymore.

my 1963 Oldsmobile Jetfire came from the factory with a turbo and water/methanol injection...

I wonder how long until the Mock EV is released? 😁More motor, less range.

The major question....can we find good fuel for the 2 stroke ?

@mathewstephenson8433

Жыл бұрын

This is my biggest concern for the future!! Fuel!! All performance sled from factory require 91 but we can only get non eth 90 at most stops and then if you tune your ride your stuck with 20$ a can booster or 110 in the caddy it sucks

Electric may not be viable yet… but honestly if you don’t see it as the future yet idk what you’re seeing that I’m Not. Baby step. So many options this year wish I could afford that turbo man..

@Kowalski301

Жыл бұрын

There is so much ridiculous hate towards EV sleds. What these people fail to realize, is the sooner the manufacturer starts developing these sleds, and the more there are of them on the market, the better they will be the day there is nothing else available.

I was super excited to watch the reveal two nights ago. But I'm a little (maybe a lot) put off by the pricing this year. I've been riding Ski-Doo since 2013. Might purchase a non-current. I'm seeing an Arctic Cat Hardcore with an attractive price. Any Ski-Doo riders out there who have ridden the modern Cats for comparison? Am I making a mistake thinking the way I am?

@brentzomer5635

Жыл бұрын

I currently ride a 2022 Arctic cat alpha one. I've ridden the 2023 gen 5 turbo summit. In my opinion, the cat is easier to maneuver & tough to beat for price. The only reason I'd switch to the skidoo is for the turbo. If you're riding a naturally aspirated sled, cat is at the top in terms of price & performance.

@atikameg73

Жыл бұрын

@@brentzomer5635 Thanks!

@pierre_desbiens

Жыл бұрын

Purchase price is a small part of the formula. Ownership cost (Purchase price - residual value) + Operating cost (fuel + maintenance). Skidoo have significantly higher resale vs cat. When you take everything into consideration they are cheaper to own (unless you plan on keeping forever). Same ideal why you see so much Caterpillar construction equipment, does it perform that much better to warrant a 10-20% higher price, no, but when you factor cost per hr it’s cheaper.

@brentzomer5635

Жыл бұрын

@@pierre_desbiens good perspective. I don't have enough experience with skidoo to know for sure. With that said, I bought a 2019 alpha one for $11,500 (new). I sold it for $9,900 with 500 miles on it in December. If you ask me, that is VERY good value even according to your logic. Again, I'm not saying your point about skidoos is inaccurate, but your point about cats not holding value, well, that hasn't been my experience at all.

@atikameg73

Жыл бұрын

@@pierre_desbiens Fair enough. I've had two Doos over the last 10 years and other than routine maintenance done myself, they've been flawless.

Depending on the charge time and price, I could see a market for a utility EV. I know a few people who burn more gas in their chainsaw in a day than their snowmobile to haul it home.

Nobody likes talking about the minerals and strip mining that occurs to make all these batts, not to mention the child labor issues in Africa to dig the cobalt up. Keep the EV's at the ski hill and tour guides.

Not sure how long this will continue as profit margins will be shrinking post covid and only a matter of time before sales dry up and the accountants pull the pin on BRP sleds…just look at the balance sheets

I am sorry but it seems that POLARIS and ARCTIC CAT are right on the bumper of SKI-DOO if not right beside them.

@bedlambikes

Жыл бұрын

Polaris leads the entire industry in 2 stroke snowmobile sales, and when it comes to hardcore sledding enthusiasts, that's whats matters most!

@drewgilgosch9671

Жыл бұрын

@@bedlambikes they also lead the entire industry in recalls and blown 850s🤷🏼‍♂️

@3DProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@bedlambikes completely not true lol, Skidoo destroys every other brand in marketshare & arctic is a decade behind both of them lol

@OwenRozeboom

Жыл бұрын

@@3DProductions and Yamaha is a decade behind arctic cat lol

@bcelectricc

Жыл бұрын

​@bedlambikes they also didn't have any 4 stroke choices till now

Fight to keep the 2 stroke alive!!! FJB and all his followers!😊

I guess that's a very, very short your 😂😂 Petting Zoo Maybe??

That electric skidoo just isn’t going to work for me on the trail. : )

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Not meant for commoner use. It is completely aimed at ski resorts and that sort of thing. I am certain this was mentioned in the video.

Sorry going to have disagree you with the EV snowmobile, I think it’s a terrible idea. I design electric power grids, most of the tour groups live in areas where they only have single phase power available, therefore only a slow charge would be available and you wouldn’t have the capacity to charge a whole fleet of electric sleds at once without 3 phase being available, and that’s assuming that feeder isn’t at max capacity already. Maybe the tour groups are renting the sleds from ski doo but if not then the resell value would also be terrible.

Taiga are much better in electric than skidoo for the moment

50KM range electric snowmobile 😂

@smplyizzy

Жыл бұрын

I do not think that is the full story on that electric model. I am hearing bombardier is being forced to build these a gesture to the left.

@Eighty8Fitter

Жыл бұрын

F the left. Powersports should be exempt from any of that BS

@pajamatime5750

Жыл бұрын

@@smplyizzyEveryone’s being forced to build these by the left haha

@PartTimeYooper

Жыл бұрын

​@Rick think ski hills, ice fishing,, Yellowstone tour groups. Market is larger than you think

@Eighty8Fitter

Жыл бұрын

@@PartTimeYooper for 30 Miles…??

Nobody wants an electric snowmobile. EVs suck.

@Kevin-gn8cz

Жыл бұрын

Like it or not future is coming. Change happens can't stop it. They may not be great yet but neither were sleds 30 years ago compared to now. Think of all the land owners that would open up their land for trials if the sleds were quiet. You may love the sound but lots of people hate noisy off road machines.

@Eighty8Fitter

Жыл бұрын

EV will not make it unless the battery technology changes, until then gas and oil will still rule. Kinda funny too how plastics and most materials require….oil…

@literallyshaking8019

Жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-gn8cz ahh yes, the promised future of disposable vehicles full of toxic materials mined half a world a way by slave labor, that take hours to charge (to go less than 50 miles), and aren’t meant to be fixed by the owner, but discarded. A “green” future foisted upon us by politicians who live in massive, disgusting, eroding cities, who haven’t stepped foot in a forest or lake in years (but who know what’s best to preserve them). Definitely change we should embrace with open arms.

@PartTimeYooper

Жыл бұрын

Your wife loves her electric toy. Get on board

@bcelectricc

Жыл бұрын

Imagine a beautiful morning on perfect trails heading to your favorite spot and having to turn around because the range won't allow you to get there and back . Or you get to the lodge and everyone wants to take the freshly groomed slightly longer route ....sorry we can't I don't have the range

Awful awful colors again! Pitiful

I wonder what the life of the methanol sitting in the tank is? 🤔

I guess what I don't understand is their limited release competition sled still has inferior shocks to a Lynx Rave. I guess I'm confused as to what direction Ski Doo is moving with their shock packages. I had been hoping Smart Shox would have moved down to more sleds this year, but it seems they have pushed trail riding 600 users to the back for another year. I guess the boys at Ski-Doo never heard, Happy Wife, Happy Life. My wife doesn't want an 850 and doesn't want a 900r.