I know exactly how you feel. Some years ago I bought an expensive turntable and had no end of problems and sold it for a huge loss within a month as I was so fed up by that point. Same thing happened to me, went back to the dealer and they were like ' is that you on the Internet forum?"

Hope you try a few dirt / gravel roads for some mild, fun exploring off the tarmac. Also on 45 mph roads around town/county does it have enough passing power or is it strictly a slow lane cruiser ?

Thanks for the updates. I was really looking forward to picking up this bike when I head back to the US - I’ve even been putting aside my pennies to save up for it. I’m not sure I would get it anymore. They do have a 2025 model out, and I wonder if they resolved this issue. I look forward to some more updates from you down the road to see if your opinion of the bike has changed or if you’ve sold it. You definitely didn’t let me down with the issues you’ve been having - the only way you would let me down is by being falsely positive about it.

@bbishoppcm

29 күн бұрын

In all honesty, I truly love the bike for what it is - the seat can be a bit rough on longer rides, but no worse than other scooters I’ve owned. The water pump issue is very much a problem, but not something that I’d be too concerned about - the pump costs around $30 and can be easily replaced down the road. The PCX is another good choice - same driveline and basic frame design but geared more toward urban commuting

@Ziggy8750

27 күн бұрын

He’s the only guy on the planet that’s had this problem, they use these bikes for rentals.

@bbishoppcm

27 күн бұрын

No, this is an issue that seems to happen on these newer Hondas from time to time. It’s entirely possible the rentals do indeed seep a miniscule amount of coolant - but not enough to cause a problem. On my trip to Bermuda, the Honda PCX was one of the better scooters on the road (but only residents can drive them due to engine size restrictions).

@iamrishio

26 күн бұрын

I still have about a year before I purchase it. I heard rumblings of a redesigned 2025 PCX on youtube, so if that’s happening, it may be an option and I’ll check that out as well. The other option is the Honda Grom which people are saying has an unbreakable engine. Honestly though, the ADV scooter design hits all the right points for me: 160cc is perfect as I rarely will go on the highway and want a bike that can go to about a 65 top speed while being lightweight. A 2.1 gallon gas tank mated with the high efficiency motor is perfect as well. Under seat storage and upright stand is extremely useful. The two seater design is perfect for me and my gf (we are fairly small and light people - me being 5’6”, 125lbs - her under 5’). The ADV is meant to be my main form of transportation, the only vehicle I own, and when I need a car, I would rent one - that’s why reliability is crucial. It’s a shame that the Grom gets a rear disc brake but the adv gets a drum. I also like the built in USB port, though I can’t understand why they didn’t make it usbc and why it is in a sealed glove box. Anyway, I thought Honda meant reliability, and am disappointed of the issues that are being presented here. I’ll be keeping an eye on this and other reviews for the next 12 months before I purchase it, but then again, the only other option I have is the Grom, which looks fun, but not practical enough. Anything over 200cc is not for me - I don’t want the extra weight, power, expense or lesser fuel economy.

@bbishoppcm

26 күн бұрын

I honestly wouldn’t worry about the rest of the bike - the engine is a newer design, but based on a much older - and proven - ESC series engine. The water pump is merely a fluke, likely a bad run from Swico - Honda’s water pump supplier. These bikes are all over asia, europe, and bermuda racking up tens of thousands of miles without issue. Are they as bulletproof and forgiving as the 80s Hondas? Absolutely NOT! - but nothing is, or ever will be again!

What procut are you spraying on the bike>?

How much air pressure do you use on front and rear tire? TYI

@bbishoppcm

11 күн бұрын

The tire inflation numbers are printed on a label either under the seat, or near the fuel filler

@neal-in-thailand9856

10 күн бұрын

Thanks , it was right in front of my face !! Getting old I guess !

I'm thinking you must live in a very very hot climate and your letting the bike idle very long to cause these failures. Here in Massachusetts there have been no complaints about the waterpumps.....

@bbishoppcm

25 күн бұрын

No, no, and I live in NH for christ’s sake. The fourth pump is holding strong so far. Sometimes, defects happen…

How many miles? How many months have you had it

@bbishoppcm

27 күн бұрын

First pump was leaking after just a few miles, second pump was so bad the technician pulled it immediately back off (bad casting he later said), third pump leaked on the way home from the dealer, and pump #4 appears to be a winner. Nearly 600 miles, most of them under pump #3. The leaks were all from the mechanical seal, seeping from the weep hole. After I had so many issues, the dealer dissected one of the pumps and identified, what he claims to be, o-rings that were “too thin” for the application.

@bbishoppcm

27 күн бұрын

I’ve owned the bike since January, but only began riding it in late March (due to snow on the ground).

maybe you can find a after market pump that is better

@bbishoppcm

29 күн бұрын

Doubtful. The engine is a bespoke design, unique to Honda, and the factory pumps are inexpensive enough to make it unlikely anyone’s improved upon the design.

Oh no, really unreliable. I would sell it too. Don't want to be stranded far from home. Shame because the bike looks great

@bbishoppcm

29 күн бұрын

It’s actually been very reliable in all other aspects. The water pump is clearly a weak point, but from what I understand, once you get a good one - it’ll be just as good as any other watercooled bike. I have a viewer who has thousands of miles on his with no issues of any kind.

I don't understand why you didn't ask for your money back? When the dealer said it was done, and it was in pieces, I would of asked for my money back right then and there. For their incompetence. That is mot being a dick, that is a person standing up against shit. Lemon law should be in effect? Get another scooter, (Helix) maybe?

@bbishoppcm

18 күн бұрын

Let me be perfectly clear - the dealer did nothing wrong, apart from a miscommunication. They have been nothing but helpful in this process. The dealer’s tech noticed the replacement pump was damaged before or shortly after it was installed, but the repair order was automatically closed, thus prompting the call saying it was done. I will be posting a followup, but the pump was replaced again, and is leaking as well. We (well, the dealer) has escalated this to Honda for review; Honda has stated that the pump’s ceramic seal may require a break-in period of “over 200 miles.” This tracks, as it applies to other models as well. There is also a possibility that the radiator cap was the cause of these leaks the entire time, as it may not be releasing under pressure, and forcing coolant out through the weep hole. We will be replacing the cap as a precaution. “Getting my money back” is nothing more than a fairy tale - it’s not a DVD player, it’s a motor vehicle. Lemon laws apply here, but I just want the damn thing fixed (if it’s indeed defective). The lemon law process requires a lawyer, and can easily be a months long process - not worth the headache.