Being a diesel fan since 1996 and having owned over 12 diesels you would be hard pressed to get me out of one. In 2020 I switched to the 7.3. At first, I was disappointed but after 3 days I knew I had made the right decision. I still tow my 16k front end loader and bobcat as well as heavy wide boats on the weekend. The gas does everything the diesel does...just slower when towing. Way less maintenance and 10k less upfront. Now when we go 4x4 on trails or even pulling my camper or even my light trailers into jobsites the gas being lighter going through the mud definitely is better without all that weight upfront. What I did for the ride was go with a Carli 3" level suspension...shocks, progressive springs, track bar and a few other goodies on 37x12.5x20 tires on a 9"-wheel vs the 8.5 that came with the truck. I added Tremor valance, wheel lip moldings and running boards and she looks like a Tremor should have been from the factory. I also added dual exhaust in black to match the blackout package. For additional power and better shifting as well as recalibrate the speedo I went with 5 Star and primarily run their 87 heavy and light tow. My truck with the mods is just as quick and feels nimbler than my partner's 22 F350 with the Powerstroke. We run them side by side on the hwy and to be fair we are at sea level here on the MS coast. There will always be compromises and in 2025 Ill probably have around 95k on the odometer and will definitely get another gas from Ford. Ill look at GM's 6.6 if they increase the power and torque.

@czealtamahawk1228

8 ай бұрын

after all that mods what's your mpg now on tow and non-tow?

@Jassman3536

8 ай бұрын

If I drive 74mph on long runs w cruise I average 15.2mpg. 76-77mph I get around 14.6-14.7. I have 3:55 gears and those 37's don't help me any. The other thing I noticed when I changed my front valance out to the shorter Tremor, fuel mileage went down same as the 3" level. Most of the time I drive around 80 plus...the speed of the traffic here. With some city back and forth I average 12.4 daily. Towing heavy 16k I don't ever look but if I remember correctly around low 7's at 65-70mph. I believe the dual exhaust and 5 star tune helped the torque improved and where I really notice it is when pulling heavy up steep grades. @@czealtamahawk1228

@southernlandscapedesigns8081

7 ай бұрын

Did you buy a dually or SRW, and 250 or 350? My trailer / skid steer combo also weighs 16k. Pulling with 2007 Chevy Duramax 2500 now. 100,000 miles, does fine. I just want a new truck with new tech & a tax write off before year end 2023. Also did you go with 3.73 or 4.30 gear ratio on rear axle?

@Jassman3536

7 ай бұрын

SRW 250. We pull about the same and my boat that I trailer is around 17k. In 2020 they came with 3:55 gears vs 3.73. In late of 24 I will order a 7.3 with 3.73 gears and do exactly the same as I did with this truck. Where are you located @@southernlandscapedesigns8081

@andrewwilson7800

2 ай бұрын

Your truck sounds awesome!

I am always going to go with GAS!!

Need to do it over a full tank. I traded a 2020 6.7 for a 2023 7.3 and don’t miss the diesel. Diesel lifetime average mpg was 16.2 with 18,000 miles on it. New 7.3 has 8,500 miles on it with a 14.9 lifetime mpg average. Going through a full tank on the diesel will allow for a regen and that will change things a little. Both trucks driven the same places on the same schedule. No need for a diesel for what most use these trucks for.

Great video as always. Would love to see a comparison between 6.8 and 7.3 gassers.

Another great video!!

99.9% of ppl have no use for diesel other than bragging rights. If the diesels tows up a hillv20 seconds faster...who cares...20 seconds. U could add up all those 20 seconds and cash them in when your truck is in the shop for dpf problens .

I would go diesel after owning a gas trucks all my life. I just got a 2020 Dura max and it is nice to have that low end torque when towing. Plus diesels sound amazing.

Ill take the $9500 in initial saving from the gaser and invest it in an index fund. Should be able to turn that money into about 25k in 10 years when I am ready to buy another.

Your fuel costs were calculated with mid grade gas. when. you calculate with 87 octane the cost is 2308 versus the 2247, a big 51 dollar saving. The EPA with its ultra low sulfur diesel requirement along with the DEF system have destroyed the value of diesel engines except for extreme towing. The extreme pressure injectors routinely. fail in less than 100000 miles and the emission system in less than that. Unfortunately diesel doesnt make sense anymore in the US. Plus the US is sending most domestic production to the countries that deserve it more like China , at least until we empty the SPG. Like your videos.

Woohoo, first to comment! As a commercial vehicle driver, Super Duty, gas only! Bug trucks pulling 95% of their lives, Diesel. BIG!

I think for me, towing basically one third of all miles driven I'd stick with a diesel but any less and it would be tempting to go back to gas.

What gear ratio was in the 7.3 gasser?

Which one you prefer JB

better relaxed tow, exhaust brake, much more pep under load, sounds cool, just more fun imho

@rbarbetta1978

7 ай бұрын

You should listen to that 7.3L Godzilla engine with a Borla exhaust on it though. Dayum.

That diesel is faster than my 2023 Mojave ha ha. Regarding the 7.3 gas I strongly prefer the port injection over direct injection. I'm still undecided which HD (GM or Ford) but I know a gas will meet my towing needs. Plus the lighter weight gas models seem more capable off-road. BTW, those eyeglasses look boss!

@Tool0GT92

8 ай бұрын

Run top tier fuel the Chevy 6.6 doesn’t have any issues, 7.3 has more major problems overall

You mention the 6.7 is $10, 000 more but keep in mind that the 7.3 is also a$2500 engine upgrade over the 6.2 or std 6.8 gas. so net difference of around $8,000

At this time diesel fuel is $1.10 more expensive than regular unleaded in my area of Wyoming and the 7.3L would be about $70 cheaper to drive than the diesel with those fuel mileage numbers.

LKA comes In the Tow Tech package in the lower trim 23’s. They did away with it in 24’s

Why don’t they just add an option to increase weight up front to feel like a diesel in the gas.

331 rear is not exactly a towing rear. That's more to go fast and still keep the rpm low

Went from a 22 lariat 7.3 tremor to a l5p duramax/10 speed Allison and couldn’t be happier. Night and day difference in mpg and power. Averaged 10mpg in my tremor with very little towing . My 7.3 couldn’t pass a gas station.

@techs1smh13

8 ай бұрын

So true

@southernlandscapedesigns8081

7 ай бұрын

I have a 2007 Duramax, 100,000 miles.... check engine light keeps coming on for the DPF filter. How many miles can you get with 2023 Duramax before addressing emissions repairs? I hear they are expensive, like $10,000 on average.

@techs1smh13

7 ай бұрын

@@southernlandscapedesigns8081 need to put it on diet

The seats look like they came out a city bus 😂

@jean-louishamid5285

6 ай бұрын

And a front end...only a mother could love.

Diesel cost up front does NOT offset any future cost.

If Ford would put the 6r140 behind the 7.3 in the pickups they would have a clear solid winner!!! They keep hoping no one notices these 10speeds are just over complicated junk!!! A few mpg’s in economy means jack shit if the truck is constantly sitting in the dealership and not out working for me!!!

I love the 6.7 diesel but the mileage will never be that good after the DPF does a regeneration.

Resetting the trip before the 0-60 run makes no sense. Pretty sure most people arnt ripping 0-60 daily driving.

Super duty with 34 gallon tanks 🤦🏾 My f150 got 36 would never buy another truck with less than

@gregrichter6614

8 ай бұрын

Super duty has a 48 gallon tank idk where u been

@SliderFury1

8 ай бұрын

​@@gregrichter6614only with the long bed

@gregrichter6614

8 ай бұрын

@@SliderFury1 ya that all I buy

Everything that is wrong with the diesel is big government trying to correct our behavior like we are children. If the government would quit monkeying around with the diesel it would push the 30mpg mark. My son in law has a 07-5.9-Cummins that he regularly gets 26mpg . Also, I think that the diesel has torque management if I'm not mistaken so you can't put down all 1050 lbft of torque all of a sudden.

Well my dad probably going to get the gas because he ain’t pulling heavy equipment

No one takes anyone serious who claims petrol is superior to diesel 😂😂

I’d rather have a diesel,I’m not gonna worry about the price difference. I’ve towed with gas and it’s ridiculous at how much it struggles with a small load and burns gasoline like crazy. Only real diesel is a Cummins.

The acceleration and gas milage alone justifies the diesel. Diesels also have the street credit. Here in TX, if it’s not a diesel then you might as well be driving a Tundra. I have a 3500 diesel SRW and when I pull up to a red light next to a 2500 gasser they just look the other way. It may sound childish, but it’s a fact. A diesel is about acceleration, gas milage and most importantly the cool factor. Most could care less about towing numbers.

@patrickbyrnes1231

8 ай бұрын

Get pretty good gas mileage in your diesel, do ya?

@jayb7675

8 ай бұрын

@@patrickbyrnes1231not great, 15-18mpg…maybe 20 on highway. My buddy had a gasser and could literally see the gas gauge moving. After 6 months, he traded for a diesel and couldn’t believe the difference in acceleration.

@SliderFury1

8 ай бұрын

"Cool factor" Yeah, that cow piss is real cool 🤣

@jabroni6199

8 ай бұрын

They don’t look the other way. They just never noticed you like you noticed them because they have better things to do with their lives than worry about what engine a stranger has in their truck.

@jayb7675

8 ай бұрын

@@jabroni6199maybe, but drive around TX and look at the HD trucks. Almost 95% are diesel and most never max tow. Ride from heavier weight, acceleration, fuel economy and the cool factor all favor diesel.

Nah bruh stay away from the diesels. The diesels have emmisions issues. More trouble than what it's worth

Both of these trucks are trash. Transmissions don’t shift properly and constant computer problems. Also the 6.7 ticks like there’s gravel in the bottom of the pain. I regret getting my 23’.

@rockie307

8 ай бұрын

Takes a few thousand miles for transmission to learn and break in. I thought the same thing at first was upset when I got my 23 clunky stupid transmission. Smoothes out nice when it breaks in

@br4041

8 ай бұрын

@@the_halfshell do you get the random typewriter ticks too?

@jimmy4x4socal44

8 ай бұрын

Got a 2019 with 6 speed. Glad I did

@hahaadventures4838

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, the post Covid Ford’s are all junk! My whole fleet is Ford post Covid and every single one has already been in the shop multiple times 🤦🏼‍♂️. Biggest problems are the transmissions

@oldnumber6

8 ай бұрын

My 10 speed shifts smoothly and does not hunt for gears. It has been a great upgrade from a 68RFE.