Disgustingly over priced

@ellwoodwolf

Ай бұрын

Not only that, but the first thing you notice when you see a stock base model is THEY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE THE BASE LOOK PATHETIC. this seems to have been designed differently, as if they made the best version and then stripped parts instead of building a base model and upgrading it

@marksgoogle4360

Ай бұрын

Maybe they ran out of idiots to pay for the over priced defect?

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

@@ellwoodwolf they make the base model vehicles look incredibly ugly so people will want the more expensive trims, thus more money for the manufacturer.

@nickwinn

Ай бұрын

Absolutely correct

@texicano_fxdls3411

Ай бұрын

Way over priced

Too many recalls. Way overpriced. Add to that, greedy dealerships that aren't afraid to stick it to stupid people that go there to buy.

@revnation_auto

Ай бұрын

Yeah most Ford dealerships aren’t great

@unclefester4626

Ай бұрын

Neither are toyota dealerships. I'm not advocating buying a Chevrolet but i did appreciate how open they were about problems some Silverados were having. Toyota and honda had policies to not discuss anything with the customer. I will never buy either one of them ever again. Only considering a mazda 3 or a nissan versa. Heard from too many subaru owners about problems...

@wallywanker7435

Ай бұрын

🤷I got 8k off sticker on my bronco raptor

@JamaicanMeCrazy

Ай бұрын

I've never had great luck with Nissan transmissions long term.​@@unclefester4626

@6LVRDRGN

Ай бұрын

Harsh statements which now perfectly describes our reality

Remember when 60k cars were really nice Mercedes and not your average bronco

@steve8803

28 күн бұрын

@tbotiOG there is a good reason why that "really nice" Mercedes value plummets big time once the warranty period is done.

@tbotiOG

28 күн бұрын

@@steve8803 think you missed the point

@steve8803

28 күн бұрын

@@tbotiOG I got your point. I just think Mercedes is a huge waste of money, and so is the Bronco.

@masonj4779

26 күн бұрын

@@steve8803that’s because either you’ve never owned one or will never be able to afford one.

@steve8803

26 күн бұрын

@@masonj4779 correct. I've never owned either and I never will. I look at the overall cost of ownership when I purchase a vehicle. Low maintenance costs and high re-sale value are important to me. I have no issues paying up to $100k for a vehicle, as long as those two factors are present.

Today I looked at a 2 door Bronco Wildtrack with Sasquatch package and Warn winch. $70,000! If I traded in my 2020 Ranger that has 19,000 miles on it, I would still be looking at financing around 40k. Makes no sense to go into that kind of debt. I'll keep my paid for Ranger.

@ss_whole

27 күн бұрын

The Sasquatch package includes the phenomenon whereby if you take a picture of the vehicle it will always be blurry

@cbotten106

20 күн бұрын

@@ss_whole And I thought that was the paint. Ford really is amazing.

@RIVERSIDEREVIEWS

19 күн бұрын

Ranger is a good little meme machine tho. You’ll be missing it.

@RIVERSIDEREVIEWS

19 күн бұрын

Oh wait you kept the Ranger. Good decision.Im keeping mine for long as I can too. Ford friggin Ranger best truck.

@ok73ps

17 күн бұрын

Every Wildtrak comes with the Sasq package.

$98K for a Bronco Raptor that looks like it's a $55K vehicle at the very most.

@jonwear9791

28 күн бұрын

No one right mind will pay $98k for a Ford truck.

@ROCKOLA79

27 күн бұрын

@@jonwear9791 Any brand really...

@tellucas

27 күн бұрын

$98k That's definitely Land Rover money and I would get one of those instead (with a warranty) or maybe even a slightly used G-wagon which would have lower depreciation and look better on the Blvd.

@Jeff-sp7bg

26 күн бұрын

100k for a rolling pile of plastic Ford junk that will be in the junkyard in 5 years

@Jeff-sp7bg

26 күн бұрын

55k? I wouldn't price it at 15k. It's a Ford lol

The economy is crappy, the price is waaaaay too high, and the quality is dubious.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

Found On Road Dead.

@WarDaddy72

Ай бұрын

​@@Policearegood-mt6kxthat's about right

@Savvynomad225

Ай бұрын

@@Policearegood-mt6kxFound on road depreciated… in half after 6 months

@hopefloats7573

Ай бұрын

Why do you say the economy is crappy? Low unemployment, near record high stock market, record corporate profits, strong GDP numbers, some big wins for Union contracts. Are these a bad thing?

@meckkz387c

Ай бұрын

@@hopefloats7573it’s a bubble

I think the “market” has adjusted. Time for $20k off the window sticker. Those bastards didn’t hesitate to add $20k to the window sticker during the last 3 years.

@anthonyrowland9072

20 күн бұрын

Everyone blames inflation but really everyone is just saying "inflation" like magic words to charge you more. Don't let 'em lie to you...

@-TheOracle-

4 күн бұрын

Righteously stated!

@carmenvanhook5756

Күн бұрын

Yes I was on a Waiting list for 6 months for a Bronco Now you can have them to Much Mark ups!!!!

They aren't selling because the economy (true numbers, not what the government tells people) is in the toilet, interest rates are higher, and people are tired of all of the modern junk from every carmaker. The newer vehicles, for the most part, are disposable, from every auto maker these days. Smarter people are holding on to what they have a little longer, or buying older vehicles.

@mikldude9376

6 күн бұрын

Exactly my thoughts too mate .

@TheBulap

Күн бұрын

Absolutely, prices for new vehicles are absolutely insane and I don't know how anybody who isn't filthy rich can afford one. Here in Canada too, our government is run by absolute morons who are causing massive inflation in every sector. My Outback is nearing 300K km so I'm currently looking at getting a new vehicle, to supplement it, and I'm probably going to just get a late-production Xterra. If I really want to stretch it, maybe a used Frontier Pro-4X. Spending anything beyond that makes absolutely no sense to me, especially for something with a tiny turbo'd 4 that is unlikely to last nearly as long and is choked by EPA garbage.

Let's try for 600 days

@revnation_auto

Ай бұрын

It’ll probably happen

@rxonmymind8362

Ай бұрын

​@@revnation_autoThey pay a fee too right to keep them on the lot? Crazy. I've seen storied.of vehicles on lots for 5 years because dealers refused to budge. Crazy.

@nickwinn

Ай бұрын

​@@rxonmymind8362normally their back will make them move it off the books after a certain time.

@rickreese5794

Ай бұрын

Worked cars in L.A. when interest was 19% The flooring fees on this obsolete overpriced Electronic controlled crap is gonna kill off a Lot of new vehicle dealers…🤷🏿‍♂️

@tuomasholo

26 күн бұрын

900 days

If the public can just hold out and let ALL the car manufactures sweat

@Jason-ml3vs

Ай бұрын

They aren’t worried. The gov (you and I) will just bail them out like it 2008.

@wojak86

Ай бұрын

sad but true 🙄

@rangerwolfhound

Ай бұрын

the reversed happen during pandemic.....dealers couldn't get cars and were selling used for 20-40% more....people went nuts ...because they couldn't have would pay more- insane

@tedszweb5268

24 күн бұрын

I can hold out I have 1 fully paid for 2016 Scat Pack Challenger & a 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander AWD with 2 payments left. Also a 2009 inherited Chevy p/u I keep for visits to California. My wife & I just recently retired & moved to Virginia .

@tjstrongbone5373

20 күн бұрын

@@Jason-ml3vs yeah that was then. Look around, does shit look like 2008? Prediction fail, your just a parrot. Want a cracker?

Having problems keeping the refrigerator full. Inflation put things in priority. I'll keep driving my 08 tundra.

Anybody who would pay more than $50,000 for a Bronco has their head up where the sun don't shine!😮

$100k is a little much for a vehicle with a cardboard roof

@brkbtjunkie

Ай бұрын

Which one is $100k?

@troyb.4101

Ай бұрын

@@brkbtjunkie Most the bigger diesel trucks were around 80k, ,and that is way too much , about 35k should have been about right. I hope the banks never finance another 70k+ auto too big of a risk.

@JA-zh5xi

Ай бұрын

😂🤣

@rangerwolfhound

Ай бұрын

@@brkbtjunkie raptor edition ...he was exaggerating ...by about 6k but after taxes who knows

@davidwarren3433

Ай бұрын

@@brkbtjunkie Raptor is around $100,000, not the Bronco's most people buy!

Remember all the people that bought vehicles around 3 or 4 years ago? For a lot more money than they were worth. Well all these people are way underwater on their loans and when they come in to trade, they find out they owe many thousands of dollars more than their vehicle is worth. So dealers have screwed themselves by ripping off customers years ago and putting them out of the market. For the foreseeable future. Karma is a b*tch!

@anderander5662

Ай бұрын

I was lucky to buy a Ram Limited in 2018 for $48,000...($62,000 sticker). Just sold it for $32,000 with 80,000 miles. Consider myself lucky. Now driving a Ford Maverick 😊

@cbruno12180

Ай бұрын

Yup that’s why the worst is yet to come usually people trade up every 3/5 years this year the start of it wait till next year car sales is going twice as bad

@revnation_auto

Ай бұрын

Bought a 04 Ranger for $2,500 a couple years ago and still driving it as my daily. That truck pays me 🤣

@klwarhouse

Ай бұрын

​@@anderander5662 Ha! I'm looking to do the same....... I may wait for the 2025 though.

@anderander5662

Ай бұрын

@@klwarhouse just checked my long-term average..... 39.4 MPG 25% hiway 75% city/surburban

Noisy cabin, roof leaks water, reliability issues, parts availability when it breaks, poor dealer support, and way overpriced

The Ford Motor Company has lost its way. Henry Ford understood that you have to make cars affordable. Nowadays, the car companies push for maximum profit, but there is not much profit when they don’t sell because of their outrageous pricing.

2023, rotting on the lot

@toddprater14

Ай бұрын

Yep and 24’s have been out and 25’s come out sept 1st…they better start dealing or they are sunk

@locomike102

Ай бұрын

My wife was looking at them and really wanted one until I saw my local dealers were marking them up $10k over MSRP (which was already ridiculous). We bought her a brand new 2023 4Runner and haven't looked back.

@drivingdaily582

Ай бұрын

​@@locomike1024runners are great

@michaelpalm2210

Ай бұрын

@@locomike102 4 Runners starting price is only $40K...that looks good compared to the Bronco

@Dog_will_hunt

Ай бұрын

​@@michaelpalm22102023 base bronco with 35" tires, front and rear lockers (Sasquatch package) was $40k.

For the life of me I can't understand why there will be a $50,000 disparity between the two trim levels

@rangerwolfhound

Ай бұрын

thats how much more they think the twin-turbo V6 is worth -- they should go back to supercharged V8's...still sounds like a 6

@2011blueman

Ай бұрын

Bigger engine, much more expensive suspension components, and a big premium for the "raptor" name because Ford has had F-150 idiots for so long that pay a massive premium for the F150 Raptor they figured the same would apply to the Bronco.

@eddyb2001

Ай бұрын

The gas mileage on these must suck too.

@airmanma

29 күн бұрын

@@eddyb2001Sticker said almost 6 gallons per 100 miles.

@aheroictaxidriver3180

27 күн бұрын

It's two completely different vehicles, both called "Bronco." Just like Fiats are called Jeeps now.

Had a Ford , so many problems before 20k miles .I got smart and bought a 2023 4 Runner. No more problems.

Most people do not take new 4 wheel drives off road. They just like to look cool, but most of the time do not even need a 4 wheel drive.

$99k..+ $7k in taxes!!!!!!!nuff said..even $15k off is still $84k!!!! At what 7% with excellent credit…effing joke

@silentvoiceinthedark5665

24 күн бұрын

They wont have excellent credit after buying this crap for long.

@phillipharris8159

22 күн бұрын

Don't t forget the sweet insurance on a $90,000 vehicle.

anything north of $50k is unattainable to the middle class. period. these days $50k will get you cloth seats , no options.

@troyb.4101

Ай бұрын

EXACTLY! they cost way too much. 35k tops.

@warikplaya

Ай бұрын

The AVERAGE price of a sold brand new car in America is about 47k, so it doesn’t seem right that 3k is all it takes to go from average to unattainable. Also, what exactly is middle class in America? Middle class in rural areas and more populated areas have very different incomes.

@baronvonjo1929

Ай бұрын

And they make cheaper cars feel like penalty boxes.

@2011blueman

Ай бұрын

I bought the 2021 bronco badlands with the vinyl waterproof seats and large infotainment screen and all the auxiliary switch options (i.e. disconnecting sway bar, front and rear locks, etc.), and it was in the $50s. I'm probably considered upper middle class though, and that was the most I'd be willing to spend on a bronco. The sasquatch and especially the raptor both seemed like wastes of money to me with almost no real world performance improvements.

@tallsaint2053

24 күн бұрын

Buy a quality brand, high-spec, used car. Leather seats, all the options you could possibly want, and no payments. Gotta keep some money put away for repair bills though...

$100k... LOL. They would sell at $35K to $50K. Maybe.

Sick prices, busting tie rods, messed up roofs. Wonderful gas mileage too. Must be LOTS of good jobs out there.

@steve8803

28 күн бұрын

@jeanclaude7018 yes, there is lots of good jobs out there if you have highly sought after skill and knowledge.

@jeanclaude7018

28 күн бұрын

@@steve8803 IF

Very few will go "off road" very often. This is almost purely a "cool car" purchase and to be the first to have one. Well, that ship has sailed.

@AmitBansal-ui5gs

Ай бұрын

I totally agree. Sold all over Houston, no place to Off road and hills or mountain. Bought for look only, but with poor reliability.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

I’ve always had a hard time wrapping my head around someone paying $60,000 for a vehicle to take “off road “. I guess I’m just a tight wad but I couldn’t do that.

@humzilla707

Ай бұрын

Venture out into the wilderness and you'll find lots of people using 4x4, and some doing crazy stuff in very expensive rigs.

@charlesharnois3684

Ай бұрын

Most Will Never See Dirt Road!

@treasurethetime2463

Ай бұрын

@@humzilla707 they do surveys. It's a niche hobby. There is nothing mysterious about it.

$99000+ for a Bronco? Absolutely insane. That'll put you into a super plush Lexus LX 600 (starting price $93,915). At some point pricing toys like grown up cars means acres of lot rotted unwanteds for a carmaker.

@Jason-ml3vs

Ай бұрын

Or a Lexus LC 500.

@locomike102

Ай бұрын

Broncos will probably hold their resale a bit better, but still, its obscene what Ford is asking for these piles. I'm a Jeep guy and they are in the same boat as the Broncos--overpriced, unreliable, and not moving off the dealer lots.

Interest rate is killing the sales. Over priced, high interest rate, equals a house payment for an automobile

Worlds wacky, back in 2019 before the Pandemic started the collapse of the Economy I found a 2018 Ram Promaster cargo van that was a leftover on the lot. I wanted something to move my Disabled Uncle around with his wheelchair that could also double as a Camper... Anyways Dealership wanted that off the lot so bad they threw ever discount they could at me, ended up paying $7,000 below MSRP. Ram Rep was at the Dealership and even gave me a 'Corporate Discount' like I was buying for a fleet on top of what the Dealership worked, good times really good times.

"The most off-road capable vehicle" for people who will NEVER brive it off-road.

@georgerafa5041

Ай бұрын

Part of 'off road capability' is being reliable so gtfoh, Toyota will crush these piles of trash. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with current Toyota either but if I buy a 3 year old 4Runner I'm buying a solid vehicle. Any modern Ford is a POS

@dickberry3910

Ай бұрын

Jeep wrangler 392 all day o😊 over the ford

@ge2623

25 күн бұрын

Like Jeeps.

@ronkuzyk3836

23 күн бұрын

So true. I don't understand why people will spend 100 Grand on something that is full of compromises to be off road capable, like oversized tires that are loud on the highway and get terrible fuel economy.

@ge2623

23 күн бұрын

@@ronkuzyk3836 And good luck with your warranty when you add all that aftermarket crap not to mention what it does to the vehicle.

I'd love to have one of those 2-door models. But I love having $60K in my pocket more.

@Cwra1smith

23 күн бұрын

I like the red 4 door for 58K. You'd still have 2K in your pocket.

My 2015 Xterra Pro-4X just passed 110,000 miles and I've never had an issue with it. Been through blizzards and Las Vegas summers in the desert. It was fully loaded at $32K, LOL. 4 liter V6.

Currently shopping for an outerbanks. I've been seeing them all over the place around me (2024). Some are starting for $44 and you add the hard top it goes to $51. Any idea of what anyone can get out the door with these?

Ford overestimated the demand of the bronco. Almost every one who wanted a bronco got one the first two years it came out. And these just aren’t practical for most people to be a daily driver. They are toys. You don’t need broncos you want them.

@clintonjacobs4180

25 күн бұрын

This is the most sensible and accurate comment I've seen in a while...👍👏

@tinay9491

24 күн бұрын

overestimated

@DeadAir21

24 күн бұрын

@@tinay9491 corrected thanks 😂

@rolandhouston3195

23 күн бұрын

Exactly, I love Bronco's but this isn't one of them. Bought a 74 in 94 for 3200. Have put about 35k in it over the years and have to insure it for 80. My daughter has a 96 that's sort of a built O.J. and it will always be worth more than we have in it. These new ones will be worthless in 7-10 years.

@roberthenry9319

22 күн бұрын

I don't (want them).

Farley is sniffing glue. Ford's are full of recalls, the quality is questionable and the price is absurd.

@steve8803

28 күн бұрын

@sabastian4858 Better to do a recall for an issue than nothing at all.

@jackwilbur9419

27 күн бұрын

@@steve8803ummm maybe don’t sell shoddy. NEW products that have to be recalled. There’s that option

@sabastian4858

26 күн бұрын

@@steve8803 best not to have a recall.

@steve8803

26 күн бұрын

@@sabastian4858 of course. But that's unrealistic. Look at the new Tundra as an example. R & D can only detect so much. When something is new, there will be recalls and TSB's.

@mocheeks709

18 күн бұрын

@@steve8803 Ford is the most recalled vehicle brand in the United States

Biggest problem is their too damn expensive.. But…… those big trucks need the 5.0 V8

I wouldn’t go near a ford until they get their quality control issues worked out

Ford, Toyota, and Jeep are screwing themselves with these ridiculously mark-ups. Inventory won't move until prices drop at LEAST20-25%

@mirrorblue100

28 күн бұрын

OTOH - the dealers are offering A LOT for used Wranglers - if you negotiate hard - I recently sold mine and made out very well.

Greed, over the top greed. People with the means just don't give their money away. The Bronco has excceded a comfortable price point for consumers.

@amazingjason455

Ай бұрын

Cars have not gotten more valuable, our money is just worth less.

@tallsaint2053

24 күн бұрын

Greed? Yeah, some... but, business kinda runs on greed. At least to some extent. They'll charge what they can. The consumers are the ones that really dictate price. We are so comfortable being in massive debt, we willingly buy at ridiculous prices. It's just supply and demand. We're the ones that create the idiotic demand.

I realizes this isn’t even the biggest problem, but 17 MPG?

@Bill-sp8kb

13 күн бұрын

High horsepower comes at a price. There's no free lunch.

People seem to be coming to the understanding that it’s a tool to get you from point A to point B and doesn’t necessarily represent your value as a human being. These prices are insane and it brings to mind the old PT Barnum saying that there’s a sucker born every minute.

Piles of junk & nerve to ask thousands of dollars for these garbage cans, hopefully these greedy con dealerships go under sick of the GREED....

@hockeymikey

Ай бұрын

They're the only new SUV I would buy.

@duancoviero9759

Ай бұрын

It's the manufacturers too buddy. The BS starts at the factory.

@tommyh.8391

Ай бұрын

How do you really feel about it? 😁

@davidclemens1578

Ай бұрын

You've been spoiled. I'm 67 years old and I remember the cars from the 60s and early 70s and today's cars are heads above those old pieces of crap. They ride and handle much better and have better acceleration. I have a 79 bronco and if someone traded me for one of the new ones I'd take it. I don't care for the small engines with turbocharging but as long as you don't beat on it it should last a long time. One thing that would help greatly is getting rid of all the computerized options that really are not necessary. That is where the cost of repairs hit you the hardest.

@tommcdonough6086

Ай бұрын

Overpriced garbage, Toyota 4 Runner better buy.

The entire Automotive industry will fall. When Toyota a dealership who historically was known to bring good value is overpriced , that’s a huge issue

@peter_shadow7559

19 күн бұрын

Toyota is another one that thinks it sells gold. In my country a basic Rav4 could cost 35k.

At those prices, the vehicle monthly payment would be astronomical.

I work two full time jobs and can’t bring myself to buy 7 dollar eggs. I would imagine that the average person is not looking to drop 50k on a new vehicle when gas prices are high and food is expensive. If it’s between a bronco with shit gas mileage and a 1k/month car payment or my 2014 Mazda with 201k miles getting 34 mpg and no car payments, i know what I’m sticking with.

At this rate I’ll never be able to afford buying a new car again

@user-ek5nl1jc4b

Ай бұрын

New cars are for goophies. I buy old stuff now. No need for this ridiculous debt for low quality disposable objects

@steve8803

28 күн бұрын

@@user-ek5nl1jc4b I have 2 brand new vehicles fully paid off. No need to go into debt, just spend frugally and save in high interest accounts.

@AJourneyOfYourSoul

26 күн бұрын

You aren’t alone.

@tallsaint2053

24 күн бұрын

Good. Don't fall for their BS. Stay reasonable with your purchases. You're doing it right!

@katana258

24 күн бұрын

@@user-ek5nl1jc4b new 1978 mazda truck for $ 5,800 sold it in 2008 for 350 $ .. 30 years and 448,534 miles later .. still running ..org clutch . replaced the radiator at 325,000 ...carb.. all worn out at 400,00 miles , 6 shift lever bushing one every 50,-60,000 miles cost 8$ time 20 min to replace myself 15 sets of frt brake pads , same rear shoes ..never wear ...

Why would I spend 50 to 80k on a vehicle to take it out in the woods to get it scratched and dented up?

@tallsaint2053

24 күн бұрын

Exactly. True off-road enthusiasts want a stick-shift, base model that they build up themselves. If you didn't bust something, you didn't have a good time. Many of these new "off-road" focused vehicles won't fit on most trails anyway.

Ridiculous pricing. I used to buy new cars every five years, but now that's becoming impossible. I guess I'll just drive the wheels off what I have and then look into lease returns for replacement cars when the time comes.

Weren't they having engine problems at some point? Anyone know if that's still the case?

@Dog_will_hunt

Ай бұрын

They had a bad batch of valves for the 2021 2.7's from their supplier. It affected less than 30 vehicles. That was it. It's like .006% of vehicles affected. It's all good.

Ford really got those two hands rubbing together so fast they were getting high off the huffing, 14K in upgrades, simplify the process, you have three trims.

@breckfreeride

Ай бұрын

There is no way any of that cost anywhere near that much.

With milk, bread and eggs at the prices they are, and current interest rates, and fuel costs, it's a wonder any new vehicles are moving at all.

@user-sk7ky7ur1b

27 күн бұрын

You are a absolutely correct, familys require substance, (food ,drink)shelter,and yes transportation,it's financial suicide to buy a new vehicle nowadays, and that's why used cars are high,high taxes ,food prices,high utilities, etc,anyway, keep praying to God,for peace, good health and prosperity .

@morbward8281

26 күн бұрын

@@user-sk7ky7ur1b All thanks to Bidenomics.

how do you lookup how many days supply?

300 days is twice as long as the average owner keeps it.

If they were selling in the mid 40's then maybe i would consider, but till then i will continue in my old Landcruiser.

For 52k you can get a Honda Pilot Trailsport or a Toyota 4Runnuner TRD Off Road. For 58K you can get a 4Runner TRD Pro. Ford is out of their mind.

@jimsteinway695

Ай бұрын

For 57k you can get a ford raptor ranger. Less than a Toyota 4 runner trd pro and less than a Tacoma trd pro

@tommcdonough6086

Ай бұрын

At the end of the day it's a Ford, junk. Toyota for the long haul.

@jimsteinway695

Ай бұрын

@@tommcdonough6086 I’m guessing that’s why Toyota copied Ford in dropping V8’s and using Fords v6 twin turbo. You should try doing some research before commenting

@jimandersen3003

Ай бұрын

Take any Bronco over any Honda or Toyota.

@michaelmclovin5098

Ай бұрын

@@jimsteinway695 V8's are going away because of government mandate, V6's will be going away in short order as well for the same reasons. So the drive trains of the near future will either be turbo charged 4 bangers, 4 banger hybrids or EV's. And if I am going to bet my money on who would produce a superior hybrid system, my money is on Toyota or Honda, Ford will be out of business in less than a decade.

The pricing is obscene. They can keep them.

Don't understand how the dealers are keeping the prices up whenever they aren't selling.

@rokko_hates_japan

13 күн бұрын

local dealer is finally having mavericks on the lot... all of them are 10 - 15k over priced. when msrp is 24k (was supposed be 20k) and the dealer prices it for 35k... that's an insane markup, not only dollar, but it's 45% !!!! ridiculous.

I can't afford a 20k car loan at the current rate let alone these prices.

@tallsaint2053

24 күн бұрын

That fact that you know what you can, and cannot afford, makes you smarter than most. Good on ya...

@billmoore7133

21 күн бұрын

For $20k you get a 8-10 year old vehicle with 100+k miles unless you putting $50k down? And the rates on used are insane, I wouldn't finance anything right now.

It's fucking mind boggling what people are willing to pay for new vehicles.

@Aki_Lesbrinco

Ай бұрын

Well, it seems like almost no one is willing to pay out the @ss for these.

@steve8803

28 күн бұрын

@jkody it's even more mind boggling what people are willing to pay for someone else's used pile of junk.

@edlutz7218

27 күн бұрын

Mr Biden said people DO have the money to afford what they want

How much under msrp can you get one for.

The price scared me away last June of 23 I wound up getting a Hyundai Santa Cruz all wheel drive with tonneau roll back cover. I paid $37,000 plus all extra extended warranties plus ceramic coating on paint , rust proofed,undercoated and Lo Jack. Final cost $42,000 and paid off too. I’m very happy with this car/truck

I think these vehicles are plagued with problems from what I’ve seen in other videos. That may be part of the reason they’re not selling too

Lot rot soon

The first week of January I walked into a dealer and wanted to buy a 2023 Badlands at msrp. I had a bank check in my pocket. They hit me with a 7k markup. I walked out, its still on the lot today.

I feel really good about my 2023 Murano that I’m leasing. Traded out of a lease on my Maxima and only gave the dealer first month’s lease payment. Finance guy said I should be able to do the same thing at the end of this lease. Lather, rinse, repeat - new car every 36 months. 🎉

Nothing Ford makes is worth 100k nothing any auto manufacturer makes is. The Bronco's price is 60% too high I could see a Raptor sell for 50k but that's as high as it should go. Auto makers got greedy and are beginning to reap what they sowed. I'm friends with an owner of a couple of Ford Dealerships they make their money on fleet contracts and wholesale cars people aren't buying the 60-80k trucks but when a 2012 F-150 comes on the lot for 12k its gone instantly. People are buying older cars as they are cheaper and easier to repair. Jeep/Stillantis is going through the exact same issue a Jeep Wrangler isn't worth 80k either.

@mirrorblue100

28 күн бұрын

Jeep just dropped MSRP on the Grand Cherokees - I wouldn't be astonished if they don't follow suit on the Wranglers.

@Jeff-sp7bg

26 күн бұрын

Especially Ford. I could see 60k for a landcruiser because I know it will last 20 ,30 years or even more. Your average ford struggles to last 5 years. Usually worn out with lifters tapping and burning oil.

@Jeff-sp7bg

26 күн бұрын

I'll think about getting one if they pay me to own it.

@edwardellis7611

23 күн бұрын

@@Jeff-sp7bg sad thing is Toyota quality has drooped too as awesome as Land Cruisers are I would be dubious for a new one but they are designed for harsh arid climates and last 25 years in those conditions.

@stepheking8686

13 күн бұрын

Maybe the Ford GT’s

To quote James Carville, "The economy, stupid." People are paying for food, shelter, and basics at a high rate. Interest rates are high. Fewer people have the money to throw at status vehicles. Also, the vast majority of Bronco Raptor owners will never begin to use the vehicle's off-road capabilities.

@michaelpalm2210

Ай бұрын

You nailed it! Best explanation I've read today!

@edlutz7218

27 күн бұрын

Mr Biden said people DO have the money to afford what they want

@shattered115

27 күн бұрын

@@edlutz7218 I guess we will have to take his word for it.

@kurtgreen1040

22 күн бұрын

How much off roading till you have to replace high dollar parts

How do you find out how long they've been on the lot?

@doom4067

Күн бұрын

You can check the build date. It would be on the lot shortly after that.

The high prices of newer vehicles have made me truly appreciate old vehicles, engines, and styling.

@TNitroH

12 сағат бұрын

Me too! I have 4 cars in my driveway all reliable and paid for. 10 to 20 years old. Cheap to insure too

I went shopping for a vehicle and the dealers don't even come out to harass u anymore... They know they're insane.

@katana258

24 күн бұрын

there is no salesmen anymore as no one is buying so they are working at mc dees for $20 hr. to get by

That Raptor looks cheap with the Pep Boys type fender flares. As far as off-road, it's too wide for most trails and weighs too much for serious offloading. Also, the V6 engines were failing, so reliability is questionable. The tires stick out so far that it's like the chassis wasn't designed to fit the body. As a former Phord owner, I would stay away from the brand unless you like visiting the service department.

@Dog_will_hunt

Ай бұрын

There were like 25 2021 v6 engines that had bad valves from theirsupplie. That was it. You know, media and shit makes it out to be more than it was. Its not an issue.

I like the 2 door Bronco, but at those prices..... Hell no I'll keep my 2010 JK Wrangler as long as I can. It's still doing just fine.

I can't get over the prices too. Especially bc when the bronco first was coming out it was a "starting price of $35k!" Ya right. Not today

@TNitroH

12 сағат бұрын

Yep! Sarahntuned got hers for 37k. Ordered it and waited for it. People are going broke and afraid of 4 more years of old man poopy pants in the white house

Just be patient, the bankruptcy sales are not that far off. I have the money and if I wanted the 66k model I'm willing to give 30k drive out. A buddy has a Ford Lightning and in about a year and a half or so he lost over 40k and I can guarantee that 100k Bronco will do the same.

@2011blueman

Ай бұрын

Every dealership was charging over retail initially for the lightning and it's an inferior electric truck. The Rivian is the best electric truck on the market and it's much cheaper than what they were pricing the Lightning at. These days I'm seeing a lot of Rivians but I'm not seeing anyone driving a Lightning in my area.

😂 I'll just keep saving😂 that's what WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING . Soon they'll be begging us to buy when 50% off hits

@stonefox9124

Ай бұрын

They won't sell till they get 75% off

You have it right public being practical. Bought a Mach E two years ago. Dealer charged 5k over list and when picked up tried to force us to take their silly financing or wouldn’t sell us the car. Looked at Bronco and Maverick but don’t trust local dealer and said adjustment price but wouldn’t say how much until I agreed to buy. I walked into a Subaru dealer and test drove Forester Wilderness. Very capable and all the options for 35k. No hidden fees of forced financing. A solid product at a perceived reasonable price with a good feeling. Can do reasonable off roading which I wanted. We picked it up in its own pick up showrooms with bright lights so we can see everything. After hour explaining you don’t drive it out they do that and present to you in front of dealership. Our Mach E was dirty when we picked it up. A great car but lousy experience. Would have bought a bronco or Maverick but mark up and quality issues to much.

Walk around the pick up trucks and show the prices. Equally ridiculous .

I don't think that people are trying to be more practical in the way of buying a car or truck for its utilitarian use. I really think people are being priced out of the market. People are finding it hard to justify a very large car payment and watching their pennies alot closer.

I recently looked at a 23 ..2K over sticker ..wouldn't budge on the price.. and wouldn't even let me take it on a short test drive

@WarDaddy72

Ай бұрын

They want 2,000$ over sticker and they won't let you test drive these shit boxes!!!??? That's freaking nuts!! These things are all over the place in my town and I don't understand it. I would love to have one of the old ones done up in a resto mod rebuild but it's 100,000K. No win.

I've got a 10 year old Cadillac SRX. All-wheel-drive, heated seats and steering wheel, leather, etc with 92K miles on it and everything still works. It's had a few slight issues but long paid for and I only drive it to work and around town. Why get rid of it?

I love these videos because they show how insane these prices have become, but they don't include the sales taxes and dealer fees, so add on another $8,000 on top of the prices given.

Don’t these dealers have to pay interest on their loans for these vehicles just to sit around?

@stonefox9124

Ай бұрын

Yes. They lose money for every day a vehicle sits on their lot but it seems they would rather go bankrupt that make a deal...

@1Springloaded

Ай бұрын

Floor plans. The bank actually owns the vehicle's. The dealership pays interest to the bank every month for every car

@jimjohnston7688

Ай бұрын

@@1Springloaded Does someone from the dealership actually place orders for these specific models? I mean it seems like an expensive gamble to order stuff so expensive.

@1Springloaded

28 күн бұрын

Depends on the market. During COVID they were ordering everything. Now it appears inventory has backed up to overflowing proportions. Due to OEM's all but demanding dealership's accept deliveries/allotments. Certain brands have certain models that sell as fast as they are in transit. Other OEM's are not so fortunate. Particularly those that focus only on expensive hight profit vehicles. They are the ones feeling the pinch.

Let me get this right. I can buy a 200 mph new Corvette for the price of a slightly optioned Bronco?

@TProfileG

Ай бұрын

Try Towing a Horse Box with a Corvette.

@masonj4779

26 күн бұрын

@@TProfileGwho has a horse box???

@TProfileG

26 күн бұрын

@@masonj4779 not one corvette owner.

@scruggs6633

26 күн бұрын

​@@TProfileGI wouldn't tow a live animal with a 3500 lb rated car either. Literally a Toyota Highlander has more tow capacity.

I was at a Toyota dealership in Dallas, and they had a Bronco in their showroom. I asked why? They said it was the most expensive vehicle on their lot!!!

dont forget they also get complete terrible fuel economy. like im pretty sure a small v8 would have gotten better fuel milage but they insist on turbocharging everything. that also means all the fords have more engine parts and are harder to repair and require repair more frequently.

Free market supply and demand. Mfr and dealer can charge what they want. If consumer doesnt pay, then price will eventually drop... or dealer can just keep them.

long term reliability on these is dicey. Eco boost motors are iffy, and I hear there are issues with the transfer case. However, I think by far the biggest headwind for this truck is that nobody can afford it at the prices the dealer wants for them. People are already overspent. Who can afford a $100K offroading rig when a used Jeep will do?

It ain't just the bronco.. it's every vehicle all across the USA, the same goes for used cars and trucks. They too are priced outrageous as well

I've had 3 Broncos. 79,85 and a 93. They were all great trucks.I was real excited when Ford announced this next generation, but I wouldn't buy one of these new one's for half the asking price.

Bronco's share the same market as Jeep Wranglers. People who wanted them, probably already has them. It's a pretty niche market. You could daily drive these, but there are lot more vehicles at that price range that they are selling that are more comfortable and upscale.

@billredding2000

Ай бұрын

...makes my 2021 Jeep Gladiator (Rubicon) a steal at $50,263 back then (new) -- I think I'll keep it. ;-) BTW, I never had (and still don't) have any interest in a Ford Bronco... -- BR

@steve8803

28 күн бұрын

@@billredding2000 The Bronco is a very niche vehicle, but so is the Gladiator.

@billredding2000

28 күн бұрын

@@steve8803 Well, for me the Jeep Gladiator (Rubicon) was the ONLY (I was restricted to the MID-size segment) vehicle that would meet my needs. Glad I got m,ne when I did...but if I wanted to get a new vehicle TODAY (again, mid-size segment only) I'd get another Gladiator (Rubicon). And it's still factory/OEM stock...but DID get a Mopar Extended Warranty on it just before my 3-year/36K miles factory warranty expired -- just in case. I'm good until mid-2029. Will see what new vehicles are out then (if I don't keep keep my Gladiator indefinitely? Or, I may move (retire) to The Villages (Florida), sell the Jeep and only own a golf-car (20-mph max speed!)...but then those are "niche vehicles" as well, aren't they. Hmmm...I think I'm seeing a pattern here with my vehicle choices of late. ;-) "Jeep Wave" -- BR

We make good money and would never spend the cost of a Raptor. They lose about half their value in only 5 years and It’s almost worthless in 10 years.

I am a ford man all the way.. Just bought a 2024 Maverick fully customed out... Between the recalls and the price. That's a big problem right there.👌🏾

Canadian here. Those prices are ridiculous. I ordered a very specific, affordable, two door, manual, hardtop 2023 Bronco Big Bend. Dealer markups not allowed in Canada. I paid the equivalent of $36,500.00 US (everything in), and got a decent trade-in for my old Edge. Extremely happy with my purchase. No recalls and some aftermarket additions have kept it looking good. I still get compliments on it.

Saw one yesterday sitting dead in the middle lane of a busy street near my house with it's flashers on holding up traffic. Driver sitting there on his cell phone looking cool in Bronco.

@johnmccool6875

19 күн бұрын

I'm surprised the flashers worked....

@ok73ps

17 күн бұрын

All vehicles can run out of gas :) :)

I like the looks of the Bronco but I don't like the plastic oil pan on their 2.7's and all that plumbing under the hood.

@rbrache85

26 күн бұрын

Do you mean the plastic drain plug that twists on and off and if you’re not careful you will be splashed in the face when you open it.

@AStanton1966

26 күн бұрын

@@rbrache85 Yes. It looks like a big plastic yellow carrot!

Hope the dealer trying to get $30K over MSRP chocks on those things

We were considering a Maverick about three months ago. Everywhere within four hours of us had a minimum of 3k "market adjustment" on top of sticker. Sorry but I refuse to pay a fee just for the privilege of owning the vehicle. We went to two separate dealers. Both only had four units to choose from and the salesperson at both pushed us towards a full size truck. Long story short, we went to a Honda dealership instead and bought a lease return Ridgeline with about 22k on the clock. The dealer network is murdering Ford.

Please let me know when Ford installs a 5.0 in the Bronco. Then sign me up.

@davidwarren3433

Ай бұрын

5.0L Coyote!

Plenty of fools signing that 8 year term with 8 percent APR. But will go around saying their payment is not to bad.

@tallsaint2053

24 күн бұрын

YES! THIS!!!!

@g.w.7893

24 күн бұрын

too*

@tallsaint2053

23 күн бұрын

@@g.w.7893 tew

Had a v8 80’s bronco. Big and powerful. Manual lock front hubs. Nice ride on and off road. I’d still own it had it not rusted out. I don’t get this new incarnation at all. Crappy styling with no cargo space. Get a V6 4Runner instead. No regrets✌️

As someone who was on day 1 reserve for a Bronco all those years ago (and eventually opted for a Mach 1 when the price kept climbing and the wait kept increasing), I'll probably wait to buy a used bronco with a blown engine and coyote swap it as a retirement project.